Re: [LI] ilug-cochin minutes for Jan 2000

[Atul Chitnis <achitnis@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'll reply to only one point - the rest of your points are not worth
replying to, since you obviously are unable to comprehend anything that is
not pro-Debian (or rather anti-RedHat).

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Raghavendra Bhat wrote:

>> Bill Claybrook, a research director at Aberdeen Group in Boston, says
>> it will be interesting to hear how the companies plan to encourage
>> independent software vendors to port their applications to Linux.  
>> "How will the Linux distributors work with the independent software
>> vendors to provide them with a more suitable release cycle?" Claybrook
>> asks. He says that new releases of Linux are issued much more
>> frequently than new releases of most other operating systems, making
>> it challenging for third-party developers to keep pace.
> 
> Quite true.  Red Hat Linux 6.0 and in no time we have 6.1. Our own PC
> Quest brought out Red Hat 6.0 and 6.1 within a span of less than 6
> months.  Do we want these kind of release cycles ??  Does this not
> reek of one upmanship ?  For what....pure commercial interest and not
> out of love/respect for the GNU/Linux community.  Love for the crisp
> GREENBACKS ;-))

RedHat released RedHat 6.0 in April 1999, and RedHat 6.1 in October 1999.
There are a clear 5 months between these releases. RedHat 6.x are based on
the 2.2 kernel, and 5.x on the 2.0 kernel. Traditionally, RedHat is always
the last distro to come oout with a new kernel version.

PC Quest released RedHat 5.2 in March 1999, and RedHat 6.1 in November
1999. There are a clear 7 months between the two.

PC Quest never released RedHat 6.0 because of problems with that
distribution.

Why are you so intent on making up things like this just to support your
pathetically biased and bigoted comments? You have no understanding of the
reasoning behind various distributions. 

Manoj Srivastava's article on the rationale behind various distributions,
which he wrote for PC Quest in the November issue - I suggest you read it.
(http://www.pcquest.com/nov,1999/Linux%20distributions.asp)

Linux Torvalds works for a commercial company (Transmeta) that uses Linux
in a commercial environment and thereby derives profits from it. Does that
make Linus anti-Linux?

Bruce Perens works for a commercial Venture Capital fund company that
derives profits out of open source projects by funding them. Does this
make Bruce anti-opensource?

Arun Sharma worked for Intel and was in part responsible for making Linux
the first OS to boot on the next generation of Intel's processors. Intel
is a commercial company. Does that make Arun anti-Linux?

Thaths works for Netscape - an AOL company and one of the biggest of its
kind in the world. Does this make Thaths anti-Linux?

KD works for Subex, a development company that develops on the NT
platform, and that has just announced a public offering to fund a purchase
of a company in the USA. Does that make KD anti-Linux?

Jon "Maddog" Hall is paid a salary by VA Research, but does not work for
them. VA pays him so that he can concentrate on Linux International work.
Does this make maddog anti-Linux?

Raj Mathur works for SGI. SGI has moved to Linux because of the obvious
comemrcial and technical advantages such a move provides. Does that make
Raj anti-Linux?

Kishore, Raj, Gurunandan, Avinash, Harsha, Nikhil and I, along with so
many others, write articles on Linux (that do not even mention RedHat,
BTW, unless it is an installation article) for PCQ, DQ, ToI, etc. For each
article in PCQ/DQ, I am paid a honorarium of Rs.800 (BTW - this is the
*only* money I receive from PC Quest). ToI pays me an honorarium of
Rs.1000 per article. Since I receive money for writing about Linux, does
that make me anti-Linux?

PC Quest spent in excess of Rs.600,000 paying for the Linux India stall at
Bangalore IT.COM.  CyberMedia had its own huge stall in another area of
the exhibition, where all the publications were prominently shown. The
only thing PCQ got in return for their gesture was a small area where they
could talk about PC Quest and the November Linux issue. They did not even
ask for it - LI suggested it. Does this make PCQ and LI anti-Linux?

RedHat funds people like Alan Cox whose contributions help make Linux what
it is today. Does that make RedHat or Alan Cox anti-Linux?

You make use of your Linux knowledge to position yourself as a guru in
Cochin, and clearly derive commercial benefits from this status.  Apart
from creating continuous strife and bad blood, driving people against each
other and away from Linux, tearing into people who are trying their best
to spread Linux far and wide, what positive stuff have *you* done for
Linux or OpenSource?

Atul "Darth Maul" Chitnis
Speaking for himself

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