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Re: Re: setting up mirrors



Atul,
 Why do we have to worry tooo much on issues like having control and other
things.We need to do something first,than doing it better.Why cant ILUG ask
a few companies for sponsoring this project.They are entitled to have
ads,slogan whatever they want in the download pages. [this idea sucks? huh?]

Ganesh Kumar
[Sysadmin Teleindia/ Apic]
www.apic.net




----- Original Message -----
From: Atul Chitnis <achitnis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux India General <linux-india-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:16 PM
Subject: [LIG] Re: setting up mirrors


> [Ignoring Suresh "MalletHead"'s personal attacks completely, since they
> have nothing to do with this discussion]
>
> Ruchir:
>
> > What exactly are you trying to say. If anybody decides to host
> > a server, they are doing you a service. Why and how would they
> > themselves misuse it ?
>
> OK, let me give you an example:
>
> Let's say someone sponsors a colocated server at VSNL.
>
> [Aside - someone mentioned "costs" - it costs just 2 lakhs a year to
> colocate at VSNL with a really fat pipe backing it, while it costs 4.25
> lakhs a year plus about 4 lakhs of equipment to set up a miserable 64k
> leased line - which seems the easier/cheaper/more_effective thing to do?]
>
> Let's say that the person who runs the server and the site is called "X".
>
> Now, X has at his disposal a huge resource - one that very few people can
> afford. X makes sure that the mirror is updated [another aside - *one*
> mirror for all of India????] and functions properly.
>
> Now X belongs to ILUG Timbuktoo. ILUG-T itself has nothing to do with the
> functioning of the resource, but that doesn't change the fact that X is a
> member of ILUG-T.
>
> After a while, several ILUGs start muttering and complaining. "Why does
> ILUG-T have control over this national resource? Is ILUG-T all of Linux
> India? We too should have control over this resource."
>
> Fair enough. So it is decided that every ILUG will have an
> elected/nominated representative sysadmin working along with X to maintain
> the server.
>
> Now, we have dozens of ILUGs......
>
> At some point, the finger-pointing starts. "X is downloading MP3s for
> himself!" "Y is providing email addresses to his friends on that server!"
> "Z has started a break-away LUG in his city and *also* wants to have
> access".
>
> This in itself is not misuse - it is implied misuse. OK, so we need to
> form a committee to supervise the functioning of the resource. Naturally,
> the committee needs to have elected/nominated members, which is another
> ball of wool....
>
> Ho hum - welcome to the world of LI politics.
>
> Feel free to disagree with me - I am just speaking from experience.
>
> Atul
>
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