Re: END THIS THREAD NOW! Re: Viability of Linux companies

[Raju Mathur <raju@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sandip,

I believe that it's the form, not the content which is being objected
to in Atul's mail.  This list exists for the purpose of discussion of
Linux and related issues.  Trolling for other OS's doesn't come in
that category.  Nor does bashing free licenses, whether GPL or BSD.

As far as accusing Atul of being a GPL-ite is concerned, haahaahaa!

Regards,

-- Raju

>>>>> "Sandip" == Sandip Bhattacharya <sandipb@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

    Sandip> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Atul Chitnis"
    Sandip> <achitnis@xxxxxxxxxxx>
    >> This is turning into a BSD advocacy thread, with Linux-bashing
    >> overtones, which I suspect has been the primary purpose all
    >> along.

    Sandip> Yeah, instead of a GNU/GPL advocacy one which you would
    Sandip> rather have, or a M$ bashing one which you would rather
    Sandip> prefer. If you or/and all others *clearly* put it up in
    Sandip> the list rules that this is strictly a GNU/Linux list and
    Sandip> advocacy anything else is prohibited, *only* then do ask
    Sandip> ppl advocating anything else to get off. I am noting for
    Sandip> quite a while that anything non-GNU/non-GPL has always
    Sandip> been , quite brashly, put down. This shows a very
    Sandip> disturbing trend among Linux loyalists, who are being
    Sandip> extremely intolerant of *anything* non-linux/non-gnu/gpl
    Sandip> . They would rather spend weeks bashing up M$, but can
    Sandip> never take in a day or two of criticism of themselves, or
    Sandip> even pleadings of introspection.

    Sandip> Somehow, all these so-called GNU/Linux proponents have and
    Sandip> and still are spreading the impression that if you are in
    Sandip> Linux land, whoever you may be, you have to bow in front
    Sandip> of GNU/GPL. So even if Guido comes out against GPL,
    Sandip> castigate him, and show his character in a poor
    Sandip> light. Spread the word that he is upto no good. Same with
    Sandip> Larry Wall. Even if Linus himself has openly come out
    Sandip> against GPL(his exact words were something like
    Sandip> "...unfortunate.  But I had no other option ..."), even
    Sandip> drag him into mud. Read up the coding conventions that
    Sandip> come with every kernel source. It starts with "take the
    Sandip> GNU coding guides and burn them. It is a great
    Sandip> gesture.". Denigrate them too.  Apache foundation stays
    Sandip> away from anything GPL. Brand them evil.

    Sandip> PLEASE. If anything, you are blinding the newcomers. They
    Sandip> grow up thinking GNU/GPL is the only way to go. I am not
    Sandip> saying that *BSD is the only other.  QPL, APL, Apache are
    Sandip> other options. Do make others aware of them please. Let
    Sandip> them know theior purposes.

    >> I am majorly offended by the tone being used and the thinly (if
    >> at all) disguised intentions of dragging anything Linux through
    >> the dirt. There is nothing Linux about this discussion.

    Sandip> 'scuse me?

    >>  Arun speaks about politics that offend him in the Linux world,
    >> but he himself is resorting to massive politics here, which is
    >> something we can all do without.

    Sandip> There is a difference between politics and advocacy, which
    Sandip> you have conveniently mixed up. The only thing you are
    Sandip> asked to do, is to listen to the arguments objectively,
    Sandip> instead of being colored in your philosophies.

    >>  All those who agree that this is an unhealthy thread - please
    >> stop responding to it starting *now*, no matter how much you
    >> think you could gain for Linux.

    Sandip> Are you trying to bully down a good discussion, after you
    Sandip> have run out of points??? If you can, counter the
    Sandip> arguments with facts. Admit to Linux's shortcomings where
    Sandip> they exist. Acknowledge the sources which led to it's
    Sandip> beginnings. Don't be a M$ and say that Linux is an
    Sandip> "original" invention of mankind.
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Raju Mathur          raju@xxxxxxxxxxxxx           http://kandalaya.org/