well.. strangely so, today i decided to do a sendmail -v -q to see how the connections are made during transfer. to my deslike .. i found that i made separate connections to the same server(outgoing or local) for each mail. cant it just send all messages in bulk during one connection??? ok. let me rephrase... "how do i get sendmail to do that".. Neil -- Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you?