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Re: Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors

Hi Raju,

Thanks for take note of my opinion. I meant no offence.
I certainly accept that I was vey direct. But then it was not
meant to be taken personally.

A word on the intellectual mumbo-jumbo. I meant what I had
written. It was a bit of idealistic but then every movement has to
have an idealistic component. It was a reaction of a person who
believes in intellectual activism. We as Indians require a committment
to be responsible citizens of this country. This requires a continuous
effort on our parts to break out of age old 'SAB CHALTA HAI ATTITUDE'.
I hope you understand.

Now, a word on account opening. I will be honoured to be given the chance to
open an
account. Mind you, I am not short of POP3 accounts. At present I have two -
One of
mantraonline and other of Yahoo.

Now, a word on committment. I am more than committed. Of course if you want
to meet
me you are welcome to my house. I stay in Alaknanda, New Delhi.

Kindly guide me in the process of opening an account and then in the larger
of Linux enlightment.


With regards,

Aditya Okhal

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raju Mathur" <raju@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <linux-delhi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 7:32 AM
Subject: [linux-delhi] Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors

> Hi Aditya,
> Lighten up, dude.
> I run the Linux-Delhi web site.  It's a shared site on a server, space
> and bandwidth kindly donated by Jai Bansal of Web Solutions.
> Initially Jai was charging Rs. 100/year for e-mail addresses on the
> site, not to make a profit but to just ensure that only serious people
> got an account there.  However, I requested him to open it up, and now
> accounts are available to any member of Linux-Delhi.  If you want one,
> send me a private message and I'll make your e-mail account.
> Couple of caveats: I prefer that the person asking for the account
> have shown /some/ commitment to the Linux movement.  In other words,
> I'd prefer having met you at a Meet, or having read meaningful posts
> by you on the list before making the account.  This is purely from the
> point of view of keeping ``account-leechers'' out of the system --
> i.e. you would agree that we don't want people joining the Linux-Delhi
> mailing list for a week, getting an account and then dropping out once
> they have fulfilled their objective of getting a free POP account.  I
> agree that the criteria are arbitrary and subjective, but as I own
> neither the server nor the traffic it's the fairest I can do under the
> circumstances.
> BTW, 190 words of silent protest? :-)
> Regards,
> -- Raju
> >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal <adityaokhal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>     Aditya> Hi, That bit about getting Linux e-mail IDs was
>     Aditya> interesting. What you mean to say is that in this forum
>     Aditya> which represents an attempt to extend the concept of open
>     Aditya> and free software through Linux there is a hierarchy of
>     Aditya> overseers. I am surprised that a person needs to beg to
>     Aditya> get an e-mail ID.
>     Aditya> What has happened to the pioneering spirit of intellectual
>     Aditya> anarchism? Are we also slipping into a static, vertical
>     Aditya> and linear structures of conventional bureaucratic
>     Aditya> society.
>     Aditya> I would have been much happier if Linux e-mail IDs would
>     Aditya> have been freely available to all Linux movement
>     Aditya> members. We signify an Idea of freedom of thought and
>     Aditya> total rejection of the existing redundant intellectual
>     Aditya> dogmas driven by Intellectual Property rights and
>     Aditya> propreitory system encompassing predatory and regressive
>     Aditya> mindset. At least we should be more open.
>     Aditya> Finally, with disappointment I like to pose a question -
>     Aditya> "Is the spirit of freedom and rebellion against the
>     Aditya> existing techno imperialism behind the Linux revolution
>     Aditya> and in the larger context Open and free software DEAD?"
>     Aditya> That ends my silent protest.
>     Aditya> With Regards,
>     Aditya> Aditya Okhal
> --
> Raju Mathur          raju@xxxxxxxxxxxxx           http://kandalaya.org/
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