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*** Netiquette to be followed ***
*** This mail goes out to :
* Linux-India - relevant posting
* Ilug-C - For the FAQ - I hope it helps maintain ilugc .
On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, root wrote:
Tusar> I have already answered to it .. go to the archieve and find out ..
Tusar> I have given step wise instructions already .. and have no
Tusar> intention to do it again...
<snip - one more insanely long mail with 3 LI footers + 1 .signature + one
free email footer + extra irrelevant 40 lines of code - irony is , no help
finally given on this mail , except "check the archi[e]ves" - hmmm>
People, rise and awake - few things that *badly* need addressing - I
shall take the liberty of doing so , in case you feel what I said is wrong
, go ahead and flame - we shall have a logical,reasoned-out brainstorming
session on why you need to follow a few *basic* courtesies|guidelines :
1] List Admin [LI] - Is it possible to configure Majordomo to
block/strip emails of the LI footers if the mail comes in already with an
LI footer attached to it ? - *I* think a filter needs to be setup -
General Opinion shall prevail - Also, Could we trim the LI footer itself?
- Do we really need *that* long a footer , especially if 50% of the people
refuse to use basic etiquette and choose to Send in a mail that has 4 new
lines added to an existing 80 lines , 12 or 16 of which comprise of 3 or 4
LI footers , respectively.
2] Fellow Listers - Consider the following when you make each post to
the list without taking the few extra 5 seconds that it does with *any*
decent editor - there's a win32 port for vim , so windows users stop
whinging and check out http://www.vim.org/ - to snip mails and remove
unneccessary junk ... LI footers - I dont think everyone needs to be given
5 doses of the footer in one email ... Think of "wasted bandwidth" ,
"annoyance caused to fellow listers" , "inconvenience to others" ,
"spoiled reputation|image" and their significance when you make a post to
Linux-India. In this regard - I urge you to readand make yourself
*completely* familiar with *atleast* what follows , if not the entire file
- http://www.tux.org/lkml/index.html - the FAQ for the Linux-Kernel
3] There were *some* efforts by some people toward maintaining an FAQ -
I request whoever started it to trim the following with comments from List
Admin in particular towards this list itself and post it somewhere very
prominently on www.linux-india.org .
Read the following and Apply it to Linux-India [ any other list for that
matter ] :
********Especially Article 11 of the Section 3 - *VERY* Important********
---------Excerpted from the FAQ of the Linux Kernel Mailing List---------
Some English expressions for non-native English readers:
* AFAIK = As Far As I Know
* AKA = Also Known As
* ASAP = As Soon As Possible
* COLA = comp.os.linux.announce (newsgroup)
* ETA = Estimated Time of Arrival
* FAQ = Frequently Asked Question
* FUD = Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt
* FWIW = For What It's Worth
* FYI = For Your Information
* IIRC = If I Remember Correctly
* IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
* IMNSHO = In My Not-So-Humble Opinion
* IOW = In Other Words
* LART = Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool (quoting Al Viro:
"Anything you use to forcibly implant the clue into the place
where luser's head is")
* OTOH = On The Other Hand
* RSN = Real Soon Now
* RTFM = Read the Fucking Manual (original definition) or Read The
Fine Manual (if you want to pretend to be polite)
* TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch (contributed
by David Niemi, quoting Robert Heinlein in his Sci-Fi novel 'The
Moon is a Harsh Mistress')
* THX = Thanks (thank you)
* TIA = Thanks In Advance
* WIP = Work In Progress
* WRT = With Respect To
Section 3 - Mailing list questions
1. How do I subscribe to the linux-kernel mailing list?
+ (David L. Parsley,RRR) It may be preferable to subscribe
instead to 'linux-kernel-digest', which combines multiple
postings into a large (~75k) digest form. In this way you
will receive from 1 to maybe 3 or 4 mailings per day, instead
of many hundreds. ;-)
The main drawback of the digest version is that it is hard to
reply to individual messages on the digest with standard mail
clients. So its most useful to those who just wish to stay
current with kernel development, but not active developers.
8. What kind of question can I ask on the list?
+ (ADB) The basic rule is to avoid asking questions that have
been asked before, or that are irrelevant to other list
users, or that are off topic. Please use your good sense.
+ (REG) Remember that this is a list for the discussion of
kernel development. If you have some ideas or bug reports to
contribute, this is the place. User space issues are not
appropriate for this forum. If you find a bug in the C
library or some application, it doesn't belong on
10. Can I be ejected from the list?
+ (ADB) It is technically possible, but I have never heard of
anybody being ejected from the linux-kernel list.
+ (REW) *But* you will if you post questions or answers that are
asked and answered on this FAQ. ;-)
11. Are there any implicit rules on this list that I should be aware
+ (ADB) Here are a few implicit rules which you should be aware
+ Stick to the subject. This is a Linux kernel list, mainly for
+ Use English only!
+ Don't post in HTML format! If you are using IE or Netscape,
please turn off HTML formatting for your posts to the kernel
+ If you will be asking a question, before you post to the
list, try to find the answer in the available documentation
or in the list archives. Just remember that 99% of the
questions on this list have already been answered at least
once. Usually the first answer is the most detailed, so the
archives contain far better information than you will get
from somebody who has answered the same question a dozen
times or more.
+ Be precise, clear and concise, whether asking a question or
making a comment or announcing a bug, posting a patch
or whatever. Post facts, avoid opinions.
+ Be nice, there is no need to be rude. Avoid expressions that
may be interpreted as aggressive towards other list
participants, even if the subject being treated is
particularly relevant to you and/or controversial.
+ Don't drag on with controversies. Don't try to have the last
word. You will eventually have the last word, but meanwhile
you'll have lost all your sympathy credit.
+ Don't flame beginners that ask the wrong questions. This adds
noise to the list. Send them a private mail pointing them to
a source of information e.g. this FAQ.
17. There is a long thread going on about something completely
offtopic, unrelated to the kernel, and even some people who are in
the "Who's who" section of this FAQ are mingling in it. What
should I do to fight this "noise"?
+ (REW, ADB) Ignore it.
+ (REG) Don't send a response to the kernel list under any
circumstances. If you feel compelled to respond, do so
privately informing the person that the message was offtopic.
Or set up a procmail recipe to drop all messages for that
thread: that way you'll never see the thread again.
-------------End Excerpt From FAQ of Linux-Kernel Mailing List-----------
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