archan rearranged electrons thusly: > ps. M$ url is not valid --- i have checked it out Obviously it is not valid as "ELIDED" means "Deleted". If you can get the actual URL, see if that is valid or not. --suresh -- Suresh Ramasubramanian <--> mallet <at> efn <dot> org EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin