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Re: Re: [ilug-blr] SPAM



G.T.Enterprises saw fit to inform LI that: 

>Dear Mr.Gandalf Mithrandir 
>Your e-mail id <gandalf@xxxxxxxxx>  has been removed from our mailing list.
>If you have any more e-mail ids to be removed please let me know.
>Sorry for the inconvenience.

Tell you what - see http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/manage.html on how to
run a mailing list without being accused of spamming.

If you don't follow those guidelines, I'd advise you to see
http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl/candidacy.html (and the rest of the pages in 
http://www.mail-abuse.org/rbl will also be very interesting and scary
reading)

>	Linux Learning Centre- www.linuxlearningcentre.com
>	Part Time Advanced Course: 2nd June 2000 ( 2 hours day )
>	Fast Track Advance Course: 19th June 2000 (4 days Full Time)
>	Email: linux@xxxxxxxx

Oho ... so this is another of your ventures, and 

1. You have harvested addresses from one or more sources - LI, Ilug-Blr,
perhaps the Bang!Linux to send out your price lists to people who didn't
ask for them at all (including people like Thaths, who live in the USA and
don't want your stuff at all).

2. You use the same addresses to send out spam for your Linux training
division - again to people who didn't ask for this stuff.  In fact, if
people _gave_ you their addresses to send them mail re your price lists,
you have NO RIGHT to add them to a list advertising linux courses.  

3. Gandalf, at least, knows a little more than # NOHUP rm -rf& - and so
will not require your courses.  So your mailing is not just unsolicited,
it is very very poorly targeted.

>	:	      Fax : 91-80-6671407			:
>	:	     98440 10269 ( only in urgency please)	:

Right - even you understand why spam is bad - sort of.  You have given
your cellphone number and written "Only in urgency please".  How would you
feel if telemarketers called you up on your cellphone to try and sell you
some stupid scheme (say computer courses) that you never asked for and
don't want?  Or suppose somebody started faxing you 10 page ads every
week?

Remember, speech is not free if it comes postage due.  You can't trot out
lame arguments like "free speech, marketing, freedom of expression" etc
etc and hope that your actions will be justified.

Think about it, and then resume spamming if you want.  Of course, if you
resume spamming, several people on the list WILL complain to your
upstreams (bhavinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx locally and abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxx /
abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxx in the states) and your dialup provider (VSNL) and get
you disconnected.

-suresh

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