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Re: [LIG] Re: [LI] kernel hackers welcome
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- Subject: Re: [LIG] Re: [LI] kernel hackers welcome
- From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 17 Feb 2000 02:32:41 -0600
- In-reply-to: Arun Sharma's message of "Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:24:59 -0800"
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>>"Arun" == Arun Sharma <adsharma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
Arun> On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 03:33:38PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Arun> The real issue is, Indian engineers are driven by money. Not
Arun> many people have the time, energy and resources to
Arun> contribute. The few who do, go for the big money and are not
Arun> exactly Richard Stallman fans
>>
>> There are Indian engineers who are not driven by money, and
>> who do have the time, energy and resources to contribute to free
>> software -- and if you do want just pure kernel hackers, these are
>> lsited below.
>>
>> I still don't think your rant about Indian developers being
>> driven by money is true in general, please speak for yourself.
Arun> I stand by my statement - having worked at/with a number of commercial
Arun> UNIX vendors and having seen the number of Indian software engineers
Arun> who work there and comparing it to the number of Indian software engineers
Arun> who write code for "Stallmanistic" reasons.
Oh, we are down to anecdotal evidence? ANd your number stil
may not hold; looking at the total number of programmers in
the US, and the number mentioned in the Credits file, I think the
ration of Credits file denizens /total number of programmers is
likely to be really close.
Arun> Both of them were my colleagues on the IA-64 project and they
Arun> are essentially in the same boat as me - paid to write
Arun> software. As for the rest, I consider them an exception,
Arun> rather than the rule - assuming that for the lack of sufficient
Arun> info they were not paid to write that code.
Arun> Also significant is the fact that all these Indian software engineers
Arun> who know enough to be kernel hackers don't contribute to the Linux
Arun> kernel because there is no financial incentive to do so.
This is getting silly. This helps niether Linux, nor Linux in
India, so I'll end this.
Fot the record, I object to being tarred in the same brush you
paint yourself and your axquantiances in. Picture yourself all you
want has money hungry materialistic programmers who would not
contribute to free software without being paid for it all you want,
but do not have the arrogance to assume that you represent Indians in
general.
No wonder you like BSD -- you are not intereseted in coding
free software, you are driven, by your own admission, by the profit
motive. You don't really understand the people behind Linux, and
other free software projects -- and thus you disparage us, calling us
stalmanists,
Given the4 difference between our viewpoints, and the
revulsion I feel towards one whio believes that the profit motive is
paramount, nay, almost exclusive, I don't think we have much to say
that can be fruitful; certainly, our views are far enough apart there
is little hope of ever convincing the other.
Rather than subject this mailing list to such unpleasantness
(I was going to say internecine, but I do nto think that applies
anymore), I shall refrain from engaging you in a dialogue any
further.
Have a nice life.
manoj
--
"...The Universe is thronged with fire and light, And we but smaller
suns, which, skinned, trapped and kept Enshrined in blood and
precious bones, hold back the night." Ray Bradbury
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@xxxxxxxxxx> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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