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PCQ and IT.COM

All,

Here is a message from KK at PCQ and my response to his message.
Thought people here would be interested in knowing what's going
on.

	-Arun
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Dear Arun,

First of all, thanks for the flexibility and the confidence.

We would gladly accept ILUG Bangalore as representing Linux India, till such time that Linux India discusses and finalises its charter, etc. We do appreciate that that could take time.

That said, some minor issues still remain, but they can easily be resolved, now that we have taken this significant step forward.

The first is that ILUG Bangalore is as yet not a legal body. So, can ILUG -Bangalore register itself fast? You could do a not -for profit society registration.

I believe that ILUG-Bangalore has some apprehensions about registering now, thinking that the Linux community would see this in the wrong light as they could be seen as jumping the registration gun. If you and /or  (but preferably and) Thaths ask them to do this, while the LI registration is pending, then that could be handled. The process should not take more than a week. I would be happy to help if required (in my personal capacity, given my previous experience with the Cooperative movement)

In my original letter, I had raised the issue of factions, et al. Your mail also has some prominent LUGs missing in endorsing this idea. Delhi, Trivandrum,Cochin (I may seem to be partial to Kerala, but then I come from that part of the country ;-)) and Pune come to mind immediately. 

Your CCing your message to the lists should cover this problem. 

But, since we cannot monitor the discussions in all the regional lists, and to avoid possible claims of not being involved, of being short circuited, etc, may I suggest that that the Coordinators from each representative LUG email their own ILUG mailing lists, cc to me and you, stating that this nomination is being made  for IT.COM, as LI is not formally structured and registered, and that such a nomination is acceptable. (The fact that the li-reg list is a private list and that all LUG members don't actually know what is being discussed there also weighs in my suggesting this small but important step). 

I know that this is a long letter, and hope you do not get the impression that I am trying to be difficult. PCQ just wants to ensure that all parties get a fair deal, and are protected from accusations or complications ( like we faced last year when it came to accounting for the expenses) later on.

I assume that you will be addressing these minor issues and am restarting the IT.COM process here at PCQ. Could you please identify the coordinator of ILUG-Bangalore ( is that Jessica or is it Biju Chacko or is it someone else? Perhaps they will elect / appoint a new person, once they register themselves). I now need to get in touch with this person.

PCQ has tried to be a propagator of Linux in India for many years now - nothing would please us more than being able to continue this role at IT.COM 2000.

Once again, thanks for all the help and for understanding and acomodating our dilema.

Regards
kkkg


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At 03:22 AM 9/7/00, Arun Sharma wrote:
Dear KK,

It has been brought to our attention that IT.COM is an important event
and it would be a shame to lose this opportunity to highlight Linux
in such a high profile trade show.

We are currently in the second week of a four week schedule to figure out the
charter and the administrative details of Linux India on our mailing
list. However, we do appreciate the urgency of the matter. We also
understand the difficulties you have in justifying the expenses incurred
on a local LUG.

Therefore, we propose that you (PCQ) consider ILUG Bangalore as the authorised
organisation to handle all matters relating to IT.com on behalf of
Linux India for this year.  We hope that Linux-India will have much to
contribute to the Linux presence at IT.com from 2001 onwards.

This was passed by an overwhelming majority on the Linux India registration
mailing list.

Signed by:

Arun Sharma
Sudhakar "Thaths" Chandrasekharan
K. Dakshinamurthy
G. Sagar - ILUG Bombay
Vaibhav Sharma - ILUG Indore
Gurunandan Bhat - ILUG Goa
Girish Kamath - ILUG Mangalore
Biju Chako - ILUG Bangalore
Prabhu Ramachandran - ILUG Chennai
Naheed Vora - ILUG Ahmedabad
Nikhil  - ILUG Hyderabad

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On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 09:49:25AM -0500, Krishna Kumar  wrote:

Hi,

> 
> Dear Arun,
> 
> First of all, thanks for the flexibility and the confidence.
> 
> We would gladly accept ILUG Bangalore as representing Linux India,
> till such time that Linux India discusses and finalises its charter,
> etc. We do appreciate that that could take time.

That's great!

> That said, some minor issues still remain, but they can easily be
> resolved, now that we have taken this significant step forward.
> The first is that ILUG Bangalore is as yet not a legal body. So, can
> ILUG -Bangalore register itself fast? You could do a not -for profit
> society registration.

Biju Chako, the ILUG Bangalore coordinator thinks this can be done and
that they're prepared for it.

> I believe that ILUG-Bangalore has some apprehensions about registering
> now, thinking that the Linux community would see this in the wrong
> light as they could be seen as jumping the registration gun. If you
> and /or  (but preferably and) Thaths ask them to do this, while the LI
> registration is pending, then that could be handled.

Yes, this shouldn't be a problem at all.

> The process should not take more than a week. I would be happy to help
> if required (in my personal capacity, given my previous experience
> with the Cooperative movement)

Excellent. I'll pass this on to Biju, Atul and other ILUG Bangalore guys.

> In my original letter, I had raised the issue of factions, et al. Your
> mail also has some prominent LUGs missing in endorsing this idea. Delhi,
> Trivandrum,Cochin (I may seem to be partial to Kerala, but then I come
> from that part of the country ;-)) and Pune come to mind immediately.

My wife is from Kerala too - so it's pretty important for me also :)
Some ILUGs which endorsed, but not included in the list:

Raju Mathur - ILUG Delhi (late)
Indraneel - ILUG Calcutta (voted yes - but I made a mistake)

Trivandrum hasn't voted. Cochin was the only vote which was negative.
Pune hasn't participated much in LI activities historically. But we'll
try to make sure that they know about the process and ensure their
participation.

I doubt if all the votes are representative of the opinions of their
ILUGs, but in the absence of a formal structure, I take it as fairly
close. We've encouraged the reps to discuss important issues
on their local mailing lists.

> Your CCing your message to the lists should cover this problem.
> But, since we cannot monitor the discussions in all the regional lists,
> and to avoid possible claims of not being involved, of being short
> circuited, etc, may I suggest that that the Coordinators from each
> representative LUG email their own ILUG mailing lists, cc to me and
> you, stating that this nomination is being made  for IT.COM, as LI is
> not formally structured and registered, and that such a nomination is
> acceptable. (The fact that the li-reg list is a private list and that
> all LUG members don't actually know what is being discussed there also
> weighs in my suggesting this small but important step).

That's fine by me. I'll propose this on li-reg.

> I know that this is a long letter, and hope you do not get the
> impression that I am trying to be difficult. PCQ just wants to ensure
> that all parties get a fair deal, and are protected from accusations
> or complications ( like we faced last year when it came to accounting
> for the expenses) later on.

Absolutely. I understand.

> I assume that you will be addressing these minor issues and am
> restarting the IT.COM process here at PCQ. Could you please identify the
> coordinator of ILUG-Bangalore ( is that Jessica or is it Biju Chacko or
> is it someone else? Perhaps they will elect / appoint a new person, once
> they register themselves). I now need to get in touch with this person.

The coordinator currently is Biju Chako.

> PCQ has tried to be a propagator of Linux in India for many years now -
> nothing would please us more than being able to continue this role at
> IT.COM 2000.
> Once again, thanks for all the help and for understanding and
> acomodating our dilema.

I'm glad to see things back on track again. I'll address all the issues
in the mail ASAP and keep you updated.

Thanks!

	-Arun

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