From prakash@mmsl.serc.iisc.ernet.in Tue Jun 1 0:17:21 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:17:21 -0500 (GMT+5) From: prakash Subject: video apis hello all, i registered on this mailing list very recently , so if this question is already answered pls bear with me! I am looking for some API to interface the video capture card to Linux, any idea where to find some or how to start developing ? Thanks - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From binand@bombay.retortsoft.com Tue Jun 1 11:2:48 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:02:48 +051800 From: "Binand Raj S." Subject: Re: Linux Startup file On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 11:18:59PM +0500, Rajesh wrote: > Hi friends, > > Can anybody tell me which startup file is executed when we login into a linux machine. > Which file executes the path and other relevant startup commands. > > I have installed gnome with enlightenment as the Windows Manager. But when I try > to open Esound it gives me error saying that the file is not in path. Change the path. > It depends on your shell. If you use bash, then the files sourced are: 1) /etc/profile 2) ~/.bash_profile 3) ~/.profile 4) If bash is not your login shell, then ~/.bashrc 5) The file specified in the environment variable ENV, when bash is executing a shell script. Since most of the time you don't care whether bash is invoked as your login shell or not, I suggest you link ~/.bashrc to ~/.bash_profile. Also, if ~/.bash_profile exists and could be sourced, ~/.profile is ignored (I have fallen in this trap many times). Binand - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From tarun@nag.mah.nic.in Tue Jun 1 3:41:58 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:41:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Tarun Shrivastava Subject: Re: Unable to Dial From my modem Dear Srinath, The problem must be in your telephone instrument, if it is in between than it creates the problem ? am I right ? Try changing the instrument (telephone) in between. I got it solved at one place. Tarun Shrivastava On Mon, 31 May 1999, N.S.Srinath wrote: > > Hi, > > I have got a strange problem with my comp. It is P-100, dual boot (Win95, > RH 5.0(PCQ)). I have a TCP/IP connection with VSNL. > > Some days, my modem (Boca 33.6K) refuses to detect dial tone, whatever > the init string is. After much work, I got thro' this problem - not > technically, I don't know much about the hardware parts. > > I just unhooked my main phone (hardwired to the telephone pole), and > dialed using my modem, and presto, it detected the dial tone, and I > could get connected to internet!! I don't know why it is behaving like > this. I think it may be due to some h/w problem in my comp, because in > both linux and Win95, it is behaving alike. > > My comp is an assembled one - and everyone knows how the customer support > of these people is. So, I just kept quiet, and I was planning to go thro' > the working of modem etc. in detail. As I am busy, I haven't got that > much time. As this discussion came here, I thought I might just get some > solution to my rather strange problem. > > TIA, sorry for this long mail, > Srinath. > > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, S Chetan Kumar wrote: > > > > > NO DIALTONE > > > > So my modem is not able to recognise the dial tone. Well Mr Gandhi, can > > you give the S register settings on ur modem. Like if you run minicom what > > are the initilation you do. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From jyep@hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 4:14:37 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:14:37 IST From: "Jeffrey Yep" Subject: RE: CHIP Special on Linux Thanks Raj(i.e. if I can call u that), I really appreciate it! Of course I definitely need help! But I'm just waiting to get some proper documentation besides the HOW-TOs and Manuals on the CD. Once I reach a dead end I'll surely ask for u're help. Oh BTW who is the person who represents GT herein delhi? Any contact address etc.? Thanks a lot, Jeff >From: Rajkumar Andrews >Reply-To: linux-india@aunet.org >To: linux-india@aunet.org >Subject: RE: CHIP Special on Linux >Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:33:26 -0400 > >Although I share in Jeff's enthusiasm for Red Hat 6.0 I would caution and >state that from past experience the dot numbers (eg. Red Hat 5.2) is >generally >more stable/worthwhile/useful/has less bugs than something like .0 (eg. Red >Hat 6.0). > >And Jeff, if you are residing in Delhi, please do send me an email and I'll >help you out with your Linux queries. I must also remind you that there is >a >GT Enterprises person in Delhi (who himself is quite good with linux). GT >(as >you probably know) are official distributors for all kinds of linux CDs and >software in India. > >Rajkumar Andrews > > > >===== Original Message From linux-india@aunet.org ===== > >Ok! I've got it offcially confirmed CHIP Special on Linux has Red Hat 6.0 > >with extensive documentation on installation and configuration. > > > >Jeff > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with >the > >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > >email. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From pvreddy@hss.hns.com Tue Jun 1 0:22:15 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:52:15 +0530 From: Venkat P Reddy Subject: Kaffe installation problem I installed Red Hat 5.2 Linux on my PC, along with Kaffe available from PC-Quest's recent issue. The Kaffe version is 1.0.b2. I tried to run very simple java program. But I get the following complaint: java.lang.classNotFoundException:Test/Class. I appreciate the solution for this problem. With the best regards, Venkat - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Tue Jun 1 0:18:44 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:18:44 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: [vikram@biosys.net: New Linux forum for Indians] - --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We should probably try and consolidate these many forums into a centralized one - where the chances of finding the answers that Linux users are looking for are maximized - which I think is our common ultimate goal. Right now, the only difference between Linux India and LUST is the technology for disseminating information. The ideal one would be a mailing list + mail2news gateway - so that users have a choice and bandwidth usage is minimized. Let's talk. -Arun - --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: message/rfc822 From vikram@biosys.net Tue Jun 1 0:37:55 1999 Received: from localhost (adsharma@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c62443-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA23704 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:03:56 -0700 Received: from mail.frmt1.sfba.home.com by fetchmail-4.5.8 POP3 for (single-drop); Tue, 01 Jun 1999 00:03:56 PDT Received: from h3.mail.home.com ([24.2.2.27]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990601070104.IPBH13307.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@h3.mail.home.com> for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:01:04 -0700 Received: from mx5-e.mail.home.com (mx5-e.mail.home.com [24.2.2.24]) by h3.mail.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA11452 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx5-e.mail.home.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA12609 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w-o-i.com (IDENT:root@[202.54.125.174]) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10416; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:31:15 +0530 (IST) Received: from medusa.w-o-i.com (MEDUSA [192.168.0.7]) by w-o-i.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA31358; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:38:08 +0530 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990601123755.008a1100@bom5.vsnl.net.in> X-Sender: icarus@bom5.vsnl.net.in (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:37:55 +0500 To: adsharma@home.com From: Vikram Subject: New Linux forum for Indians Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi! I believe you're the person in charge of the linux-india mailing list My name is Vikram Vaswani and together with my friend, Harish Kamath, I administer a forum for Linux users online. It's called LUST [the Linux Users Survival Toolkit], and it's a forum for Linux users all over India to meet and discuss the Linux operating system. We've been featured on Freshmeat, and also in the Education Times and Bombay Times, and our forum currently has over 125 members. The forum is hosted on Dejanews at http://www.deja.com/~lust Would it be possible for you to make an announcement on the your mailing list, so as to inform your members about this forum? Please note that we are college students who are very passionate about Linux, and the forum is our way of reaching out and helping others. It is completely non-profit, and will remain that way. More information on us and our other free services can be found on our Web site at http://www.bigfoot.com/~hitg Thanks! Vikram Vaswani Moderator, LUST - --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From ssaraf@hss.hns.com Tue Jun 1 0:27:20 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:57:20 +0530 (IST) From: Suman_Saraf Subject: OFFTOPIC: Commercial / Wanted Web Proffessionals Hi folks, Here is an exciting opportunity for web proffessionals amongst you. It is a new venture with exciting perks. They need about 8 people , 3 with considerable experience to lead a team and 5 programmers. This is for full time employment , though free lancers can be considered too. Desried Skills : Perl/Java/JavaScript/ASP/MS SQL Server/Apache/PHP/CGI/Databases(mysql)/ JDBC/ODBC. People who want to apply for team leaders , should have decent exposure to Systems Analysis and Design stuff. Contacts : WebNeuron, 767 - Lakshmi Bai Nagar , New Delhi. Phone : 6872716 In case you need any clarifications , please feel free to contact me. Cheers, Suman - -- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" Suman Saraf, Hughes Software Systems, http://members.xoom.com/ssaraf - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From dean@bom4.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 0:58:35 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:28:35 +0530 From: "HELP Indore" Subject: Re: Mailing services on Linux - works with a minor problem for us For this you would have to get urself a domain to serve on. eg. the setup we have..... We have a Linux machine asting as a gateway to the net for the network here in the college. We have a domain mgmmc.edu The machine serves the internal mails and distributes them as soon as they are sent, but all the outbound mails are queued for later delivery. Uwould have to configure 1. Sendmail to hold the expensive mails..... its kinda long procedure.... 2. DNS I think u can try and catch a copy of PCQ's Intranets and E-mail special published July 98 or u could visit www.pcquest.com. they have given detailed articles on the same. I just have one problem. Everything is working fine, but I am unable to remove the delays caused in sending outbound mails when the Linux server is offline. I could not figure out how to configure the DNS so that it does not try to resolve outbound domains like hotmail.com when the Linux server is not connected to the net. Thanx to you I was about to post my problem to the group!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------- VaibhaV Sharma webmaster@mgmmc.edu Incharge Higher Education Library Project (http://www.mgmmc.edu/help) Mahatma Gandhi memorial Medical College, (http://www.mgmmc.edu) Indore India Fax: (561) 382-6358 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- - -----Original Message----- From: Ramakrishna To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: Mailing services on Linux >Hi all, > >I am a newbie to installing mail services on Linux. I have installed RH >5.2. > >My requirement is like this. I have the Linux server, serving the internal >mailing requirements on my LAN. I have one dial up connection to the >internet. I want to enable email facility for all the users on my LAN with >this single dial up connection to the internet. I can not think of >installing a proxy and giving users access to the internet for browsing. >Hence mail facilities like Hotmail et al are ruled out. Using the single >dial up connection, can I give email facility (without somebody actually >routing the mail to them personally) to all my LAN users? > >MS Exchange can do this with a third party add on. But I don't want to use >MS Exchange. > >Can somebody from the list help me out? > >TIA >Ramakrishna > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From dean@bom4.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 1:4:8 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:34:08 +0530 From: "HELP Indore" Subject: Re: linux nameserver specification Apart from squid..... if u want a real good proxy like solution try IP masquarading technique ..... It connects all the machine on ur LAN as if they were directly connected to the net. After doing that u could try using ipfwadm and block access to individual ip addresses. No need to install hefty squid software which needs lot of cache activity. VaibhaV webmaster@mgmmc.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Binand Raj S. To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:48 AM Subject: Re: linux nameserver specification >On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 10:02:07AM -0500, Biswajoy Brahmachari wrote: >> >> Does anyone configured a nameserver for a LAN? >> Is it possible to filter out unwanted and indecent cites >> by excluding their ip addresses ? > >I think squid is your friend. Download squid, configure your >presumably ethernet lan to use a proxy server running squid, and >configure squid to avoid objectionable sites. Squid's home page is >http://www.squid.org. > >Binand > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From dean@bom4.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 1:9:6 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:39:06 +0530 From: "HELP Indore" Subject: GT Enterprises?? Hello, Can anyone help me out with the address of GT enterprises or any other resource where I can get the latest $ 99.95 Redhat Linux 6.0 pack which comes with 6 CD's full of powertools and goodies and also has 3 manuals. Has anyone purchased it? VaibhaV webmaster@mgmmc.edu - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- VaibhaV Sharma webmaster@mgmmc.edu Incharge Higher Education Library Project (http://www.mgmmc.edu/help) Mahatma Gandhi memorial Medical College, (http://www.mgmmc.edu) Indore India Fax: (561) 382-6358 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From cvr@md2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 1:16:15 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:46:15 +0530 (IST) From: RADHAKRISHNAN C V Subject: RE: Linux India Digest V1 #16 On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Rahul Kumar wrote: > >you do not have any other option than to purchase a commercial X server > >from Xi Graphics at http://www.xig.com. > > >it costs around US$ 125.00, but worth investing the money. > > Is this what a free OS means ? why do you expect others to write a driver for you? you yourselves can write it, that's what a free OS expects from its users. radhakrishnan - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Tue Jun 1 0:58:50 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:28:50 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: [none] They all mean different things. In displays (video), bits refers to the number of colors the display can show. Thus an 8-bit display can show 2**8 i.e. 256 colors. A 24-bit display can show 2**24 == many million colors simultaneously. 128-bit video is a misnomer, it is actually referring to the width of the bus between the CPU and the graphics processor. Most RISC CPU's today, including the SGI MIPS, Sun SPARC, HP PA-RISC and Compaq (was Digital) Alpha are 64-bit. This refers to the size of the registers in the CPU and the width of the data and address busses between the CPU and the memory. Regards, - -- Raju >>>>> "Murali" == K Muralidharan writes: Murali> Can anyone tell me the significance of no of bits when Murali> people speak about 32,64 bit sound cards,128 bit video Murali> cards,etc.As far as I know barring the Alpha CPU, all are Murali> 32bit CPUs. Murali> -Murali Murali> -------------------------------------------------------------------- Murali> For more information on Linux in India visit Murali> http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list Murali> send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words Murali> 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body Murali> of the email. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 1:16:15 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:46:15 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: GT Enterprises?? > Hello, > Can anyone help me out with the address of GT enterprises or any other > resource where I can get the latest $ 99.95 Redhat Linux 6.0 pack which > comes with 6 CD's full of powertools and goodies and also has 3 manuals. http://www.gtcdrom.com Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From indradg@cal.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 1:15:48 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:45:48 +0530 From: "Indranil Das Gupta" Subject: Re: linux nameserver specification It the caching mechanism of Squid which allows the browsing speed when the number of clients (actively browsing) connected to the gateway goes up....IP_masq with no caching will lead to browsing speed slow down. My experience has been that it beneficial to run both proxying and IP_Masqing togther, to serve both browsing requirements (handled by Squid) as well as other services which can be serviced by IP_masq. - --Indra. - ---------- > From: HELP Indore > To: linux-india@aunet.org > Subject: Re: linux nameserver specification > Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 1:34 PM > > Apart from squid..... > if u want a real good proxy like solution try IP masquarading technique > ..... > > It connects all the machine on ur LAN as if they were directly connected to > the net. After doing that u could try using ipfwadm and block access to > individual ip addresses. No need to install hefty squid software which needs > lot of cache activity. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sudhir.parasuram@cisco.com Tue Jun 1 1:24:20 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:54:20 +0530 From: Sudhir Parasuram Subject: Re: Why two files?? (Re: Linux Startup file) Hi, > Now that this issue has been taken up, I always wanted to know why there > are 2 files while one can do? .cshrc and .login (under 'C' shell) .bashrc and .bash_profile (under 'Bash' shell) are two sets of files which are executed, according to the specifications given in the respective man pages of these shells, whenever the user logs in. .login and .bash_profile are not normally used thereafter. Whenever a new instance of the shell is invoked, the respective .--shrc file (.cshrc or .bashrc) file is executed. The experts may please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks, Sudhir.P - -- When you hit rock bottom, there is no way, but, up. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From spavri@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 2:55:45 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:55:45 +0500 From: "Dr. Pavri" Subject: RE: Linux India Digest V1 #16 At 10:23 AM 6/1/99 +0530, you wrote: >From: RADHAKRISHNAN C V >Subject: Re: Linux not recog. svga card > >>> The card is s3 trio3d agp >>> 2)Netscape loads with many errors, and doesnt show jpegs. >>> > >>you do not have any other option than to purchase a commercial X server >>from Xi Graphics at http://www.xig.com. > >>it costs around US$ 125.00, but worth investing the money. > >Is this what a free OS means ? God, please lets not start with the free vs. paid thing again; if you don't want to pay for the server, you can change your card (which, I presume, is not going to be free) or you can make do with a vga16 display which is a poor cousin of what linux can really display. And as you already know, Netscape is going to look real anemic. Believe me there is no such thing as a free lunch. The hardware has cost you, the email you sent has cost you, this email you are reading is costing you; it's just that maybe one does not pay for everything directly, so one tends to not realise that fact. What is so wrong about paying for something you need to use ? I truly believe that the easier it is to attain something, the more one tends to take it for granted and ignore it. One definitely undervalues it. shahrukh. p.s.: No personal affronts intended. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sksharma@inflibnet.ernet.in Tue Jun 1 2:25:37 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:55:37 +0530 From: sksharma Subject: Re: Linux Admins I am interested , please give me detail On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: >Sorry to post this here. One of the Internet companies in India is >looking for Linux Administrators, if anyone is interested please let me >know. > >Regards >Prakash >-- >Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 >US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From binand@bombay.retortsoft.com Tue Jun 1 15:2:2 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:02:02 +051800 From: "Binand Raj S." Subject: Re: Why two files?? (Re: Linux Startup file) On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 11:04:57AM +0530, manas garg wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, V S Ashoka wrote: > > > Two of them, .bashrc and .bash_profile (provided you use bash > > shell) > > ashok > > > > Hi, > > Now that this issue has been taken up, I always wanted to know why there > are 2 files while one can do? > Bash can be used in two different ways - one as your login shell (as noted in the /etc/passwd file against your login name) and as a general shell (either while executing a shell script or by just typing bash at your command prompt). .bash_profile is the startup file for bash's login shell feature, and .bashrc for the other. Anyway, when you invoke bash from the command prompt, you can specify the -i option to bash to make it behave as a login shell (if it is listed in /etc/shells, I believe). Redhat's default bash profile file has the lines if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then source ~/.bashrc fi in it. I personally prefer to symlink the two files. Read the bash man page, and look into the environment variable SHLVL. Regards, Binand - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #17 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 2:40:14 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:10:14 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: Sound card problem On Mon, 31 May 1999, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I ahve aztech 2320 sound card with modem. Later is disabled in the card. > During bootup msg appears pci device set and some parameters are > written. After that i get the msg that device is busy when sb compatibel > is set. How to stop previous PCI setting. I feel that is the culprit not If I am not wrong that should be done in rc.sysinit. I can not remember off-hand what is doing that, just checkup /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit - -Chetan S > allowing the souncard to function. > -- > L.V.Gandhi > MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA > http://www.poboxes.com/lvgandhi lvgandhi@poboxes.com, > lvgandhi@vsnl.com, 31882656@pager.mirabilis.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 2:43:39 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:13:39 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: problems with linux... On Mon, 31 May 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > > > > Well I have a 200 mmx machine with pci 5446 2mb vga card and 4.3 hdd I = > > have win 98 on the mbr .=20 I can load linux from the pcquest but will it > > be possible for me that = when ever I start my comp. A menu will appear > > and ask me to boot from = win 98 or linux so need not put the lilo loader Why don't you do that urself put some script in autoexec.bat that displays a message like "Type Y to boot linux", that if typed key is Y, you run loadlin.exe, else continue with rest. Doesn't this work ?? - -Chetan S - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From geetha@cswri.raj.nic.in Tue Jun 1 2:47:18 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:17:18 +0530 (IST) From: "V. Geethalakshmi" Subject: Re: GT Enterprises?? See URL http://www.gtcdrom.com for details reg GT enterprises, Bangalore. Geethalakshmi. V. On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, HELP Indore wrote: > Hello, > Can anyone help me out with the address of GT enterprises or any other > resource where I can get the latest $ 99.95 Redhat Linux 6.0 pack which > comes with 6 CD's full of powertools and goodies and also has 3 manuals. > > Has anyone purchased it? > > VaibhaV > webmaster@mgmmc.edu > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------- > VaibhaV Sharma > webmaster@mgmmc.edu > Incharge > Higher Education Library Project (http://www.mgmmc.edu/help) > Mahatma Gandhi memorial Medical College, (http://www.mgmmc.edu) > Indore > India > Fax: (561) 382-6358 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 2:49:10 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:19:10 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: HI On Mon, 31 May 1999, shobhan wrote: > Is it possible to send a frame by using the following setup > > sockid = socket(AF_INET,SOCK_RAW,IPROTO_IP); > > Can I able send ethernet frames by using the following socket. I Nope AFAIK with SOCK_RAW, you would be able to send IP packets, but not ethernet frame. Socket with SOCK_RAW will just pass on the whole buffer you are writing, so you would be able to frame ur own IP packet, and rest of the stuff(ie framing ethernet frame) from that point is taken up by the kernel. Hope I am clear - -Chetan S _______________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From Rahul.Kumar@metamorgs.com Tue Jun 1 3:15:27 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:45:27 +0530 From: Rahul Kumar Subject: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? >>Is this what a free OS means ? >God, please lets not start with the free vs. paid thing again; Sorry, so many toes have I stepped on, that I must clarify... I, like all others on the list, understand and value "freedom" vs "free". I also wish the very best for the OSS and free movement. I use and profess only open and portable systems and protocols. I even pay for software I buy. However, I thought Linux would run out of the box, and I would not need to buy further stuff to make it run. (And I was cheesed off that I still have to use '98 for browsing, after loading Linux - that was the *real* issue) Thus, the dig! (Pls dont think a Microsoftie has joined your list, I am very much a Unix lover hoping to move my Win work to Linux. Permanently.). Pls don't hit me with more rebukes, if its possible for me to *buy* the X server in India, I would appreciate a contact number. Cheers, Rahul. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 3:45:18 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:15:18 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? > However, I > thought Linux would run out of the box, and I would not need to > buy further > stuff to make it run. (And I was cheesed off that I still have to use '98 > for browsing, after loading Linux - that was the *real* issue) I don't understand why you say you cannot use Linux just because you can't get X started (which is probably because you have a cheap, unsupported display card like the SiS6215 [Rs.200 wholesale] in your machine instead of a decent card like a Matrox G100 (<2K) or even a S3 Virge/DX [~Rs.1000]. > Pls don't hit me with more rebukes, if its possible for me to *buy* the X > server in India, I would appreciate a contact number. Accelerated X is available fom GT Enterprises (http://www.gtcdrom.com). Be aware though that it is *expensive* - in that money you could happily buy yourself a more than decent display card and get going. List admins - I advocate a page on the linux-india site that clearly lists equipment that will not work with Linux (since this list would be shorter than a list of things Linux *does* work with) so that people configuring machines don't make the mistake of "a display card is a display card". I am especially miffed with the SiS6215 cards - I have recently discovered that there are many versions of these - some of which seem to work with XFree86, some of them don't. Let us all take a moment here to bend our heads and pray that the next system integrator to offer anyone a SiS6215 card will get chewed up by a herd of rabid hyenas, and then get trampled by a herd of elephants (unsuccessfully) learning ballroom dancing. The insane Yamaha sound cards with their varying chipsets and infinite variations in BIOSs should be also be subjected to soccer practice with a doped out team from South America - just after bowling practice with the West Indians. These cards don;t even work properly under *Windows*! Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From cvr@md2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 4:39:5 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:09:05 +0530 (IST) From: RADHAKRISHNAN C V Subject: interesting statistics just for fun, i scanned thru the postings to the linux-india list just to see the mail agents members are using. out of 52 postings, 29 orginated from Windows mailers, 2 from Sun, one from Novell and 20 from Linux. quite interesting! radhakrishnan - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From kodaliraghu@hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 10:12:12 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:12:12 IST From: "Kodali Raghu" Subject: VHDL Software on LINUX Hi, I am an M.Tech Electronics student interested very much in linux. I recently heard that a VHDL software exists for linux which goes by the name alliance. If somebody can help me in getting the software (ftp or other downloadable sites) i will be very thankfull. thanks in advance. raghu ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Tue Jun 1 4:48:45 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 07:48:45 -0400 (EDT) From: rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Subject: [none] Hi manas. .bash_profile is executed only once and that is when u login. Here u set up env settings like path, ld_lib path etc etc. provided bash is ur login shell. .bashrc is executed everytime u startup bash ($ bash or $ exec bash) place where u put ur bash aliases sorry if this has already been answered, i am at a +4.0hr offset from india right now. BTW has anyone tried runnng X on a Creative Exxtrem AGP card ? and what modem would u recommend that i get for my linux dubba. (i need the modem to work both in linux and 98). - -Rohit >>>>>>>>>>-- On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, V S Ashoka wrote: > Two of them, .bashrc and .bash_profile (provided you use bash > shell) > ashok > Hi, Now that this issue has been taken up, I always wanted to know why there are 2 files while one can do? Thanks Manas - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the - --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From biswa@ei-16-5.eigenmann.indiana.edu Tue Jun 1 6:1:42 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:01:42 -0500 (EST) From: Biswajoy Brahmachari Subject: Re: linux nameserver specification I am tring to block anything which ends with .cc .nu .to on the LAN to begin with... Biswa On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, HELP Indore wrote: > Apart from squid..... > if u want a real good proxy like solution try IP masquarading technique > ..... > > It connects all the machine on ur LAN as if they were directly connected to > the net. After doing that u could try using ipfwadm and block access to > individual ip addresses. No need to install hefty squid software which needs > lot of cache activity. > > VaibhaV > webmaster@mgmmc.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Binand Raj S. > To: linux-india@aunet.org > Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 2:48 AM > Subject: Re: linux nameserver specification > > > >On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 10:02:07AM -0500, Biswajoy Brahmachari wrote: > >> > >> Does anyone configured a nameserver for a LAN? > >> Is it possible to filter out unwanted and indecent cites > >> by excluding their ip addresses ? > > > >I think squid is your friend. Download squid, configure your > >presumably ethernet lan to use a proxy server running squid, and > >configure squid to avoid objectionable sites. Squid's home page is > >http://www.squid.org. > > > >Binand > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > >email. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From patil_vinay@newmail.net Tue Jun 1 3:31:35 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:01:35 +0530 From: vinay patil Subject: Re: GT Enterprises?? 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You will adapt to=20 \par our software quickly as VariCAD is highly interactive and user = friendly.=20 \par There are various techniques and approaches to suit your style and = creativity.\tab=20 \par }\pard \widctlpar {\fs24=20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (Download via internet) \tab \tab \tab \tab = \tab 14,476.00 =20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (with support via internet, CD-ROM included) = \tab \tab 24,156.00 =20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (2 pack with support via internet, CD-ROM = included)\tab 28,556.00.=20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (3 pack with support via internet, CD-ROM = included)\tab 35,556.00.=20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (5 pack with support via internet, CD-ROM = included)\tab 52,750.00.=20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (10 pack with support via internet, CD-ROM = included)\tab 90,750.00 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux (one year-upgrade, CD-ROM included) \tab \tab = \tab 2,350.00=20 \par VariCAD 7.0 for Linux ( Education version ) \tab \tab \tab \tab = \tab Rs.9,550.00. \par=20 \par }\pard \qj\widctlpar {\b\fs24\ul LINUX-BOOKS}{\fs24=20 \par }{\b\fs24=20 \par }{\fs24 01\tab Linux Undercover from RedHat\tab \tab \tab \tab = 01\tab \tab Rs. 2800/- \par 02\tab Linux Complete Command Reference from RedHat\tab \tab 01\tab = \tab Rs. 2950/- \par 03\tab Linux Application Development from RedHat\tab \tab 01\tab = \tab Rs. 2500/- \par 04\tab RedHat 5.2 Installation Guide from RedHat\tab \tab \tab = 01\tab \tab Rs. 750/- \par 05\tab Maximum RPM from RedHat\tab \tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab = Rs. 1750/- \par 06\tab Linux The Complete Reference from Walnut Creek\tab \tab = 01\tab \tab Rs. 2500/- \par 07\tab Linux Encyclopedia 6}{\fs24\super th}{\fs24 Edition\tab = \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. 2500/- \par 08\tab How to Use Linux \endash Book with CD\tab \tab \tab \tab = 01\tab \tab Rs. 1500/- \par 09\tab Teach Yourself Linux in 10 Minutes\tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab = \tab Rs. 750/- \par \tab=20 \par Many more books for Linux available as below:=20 \par=20 \par }\trowd \trgaph108\trleft-108 \cellx3075\cellx6258\cellx9441 \pard = \qj\widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 RedHat Installation Guide\cell Linux for = Dummies\cell Linux Multimedia Guide\cell }\pard \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 = \row }\trowd \trgaph108\trleft-108 \cellx3075 \cellx6258\cellx9441 \pard \qj\widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 RedHat = Unleashed\cell Linux User\rquote s Resource\cell Linux Kernel = Internals\cell }\pard \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 \row }\pard = \qj\widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 Running Linux\cell Linux Programming\cell=20 Linux in a Nutshell\cell }\pard \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 \row }\pard = \qj\widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 The Linux Database\cell Linux Network = Toolkit\cell Linux Device Drivers\cell }\pard \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 = \row }\pard \qj\widctlpar\intbl {\fs24=20 The Linux Internet Server\cell Linux Net Administrator Gide\cell Linux = A-Z\cell }\pard \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 \row }\pard \qj\widctlpar\intbl = {\fs24 A Practical Guide to Linux\cell Building a Linux Internet\cell = Linux User Guide\cell }\pard=20 \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 \row }\trowd \trgaph108\trleft-108 = \cellx3075\cellx6258\cellx9441 \pard \qj\widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 Linux = System Administrator \par Hand Book\cell Inside Linux : A look at OS development\cell Linux : = Installation, Configuration & use\cell }\pard \widctlpar\intbl {\fs24 = \row }\pard \qj\widctlpar {\fs24=20 \par }\pard \qj\fi720\widctlpar {\b\fs24 MANY MORE = BOOKS/PRODUCTS/STUFFS\'85..\tab REVERT BACK TO US \par }\pard \qj\widctlpar {\fs24=20 \par \page=20 \par }\pard \qj\fi720\widctlpar {\b\fs24 MANY MORE = BOOKS/PRODUCTS/STUFFS\'85..\tab REVERT BACK TO US \par \tab \tab \tab=20 \par }\pard \qj\widctlpar {\b\fs24\ul OTHER COOL STUFFS}{\b\fs24 \tab = \tab :\tab }{\fs24=20 \par }{\b\fs24=20 \par }{\fs24 Penguin Power T- Shirt\tab :\tab Rs. 95.00 \par Penguin Power Polo \endash Shirt\tab :\tab Single Play Rs. = 125.00\tab :\tab Double Play Rs. 125.00 \par Penguin the TUX\tab \tab :\tab Available in 6\rdblquote , = 10\rdblquote , 14\rdblquote=20 \par }\pard \widctlpar {\fs24 Penguin Power Mouse Pad\tab :\tab Rs. 20 = for Foam and Rs. 35 for Velvette \par Penguin Power Sticker\tab :\tab Rs. 15 \par }{\b\fs24 \tab \tab=20 \par Terms : \par }{\fs24=20 \par Taxes\tab \tab : No Taxes Applicable \par Payment\tab : }{\fs22 100% in Advance by Demand Draft payable at = Bangalore in favour of G.T.Enterprises=20 \par }{\fs24 Delivery\tab : Ex-Stock - if stock lost 2 Wks. \par Validity\tab : 30 Days \par=20 \par Shipping charges extra at actuals.\tab \tab \tab \tab \tab \tab = \tab=20 \par }\pard \nowidctlpar {\fs24 Hope you find this offer interesting. \par }\pard \widctlpar {\fs24 Please feel free to contact us for further = clarification. \par=20 \par Thanking you and looking forward to hear from you. \par=20 \par Best Regards \par For G.T.Enterprises \par=20 \par }\pard \nowidctlpar=20 \par } - ------=_NextPart_000_01BEAC48.06164C60-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From patil_vinay@newmail.net Tue Jun 1 3:31:35 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:01:35 +0530 From: vinay patil Subject: Re: GT Enterprises?? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_01BEAC48.06164C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yaa sure .... here's the address of gt enterpriese along with the list of products they have .... vinay - ---------- > From: HELP Indore > To: linux-india@aunet.org > Subject: GT Enterprises?? > Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 1:39 PM > > Hello, > Can anyone help me out with the address of GT enterprises or any other > resource where I can get the latest $ 99.95 Redhat Linux 6.0 pack which > comes with 6 CD's full of powertools and goodies and also has 3 manuals. > > Has anyone purchased it? > > VaibhaV > webmaster@mgmmc.edu > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------- > VaibhaV Sharma > webmaster@mgmmc.edu > Incharge > Higher Education Library Project (http://www.mgmmc.edu/help) > Mahatma Gandhi memorial Medical College, (http://www.mgmmc.edu) > Indore > India > Fax: (561) 382-6358 > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - ------=_NextPart_000_01BEAC48.06164C60 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Redhat_Qute.doc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: Redhat_Qute (WordPad Document) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Redhat_Qute.doc" {\rtf1\ansi \deff4\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f4\froman\fcharset0\fprq2 Times = New Roman;}{\f45\froman\fcharset0\fprq2 Century = Schoolbook;}}{\colortbl;\red0\green0\blue0;\red0\green0\blue255;\red0\gre= en255\blue255; \red0\green255\blue0;\red255\green0\blue255;\red255\green0\blue0;\red255\= 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\tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 2495/- \par 04\tab Official Caldera Linux 2.2\tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab = Rs. 2995/- \par 05\tab Official S.u.SE Linux 6.1\tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 2300/- \par 06\tab Official Slackware 3.6\tab \tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab = Rs. 2500/- \par 07\tab Official Debian 2.1\tab \tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 1995/- \par 08\tab Official Mandrake Linux 5.3\tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab = Rs. 2995/- \par 09\tab Linux Variety Pack from RedHat\tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 2500/- \par 10\tab Linux Developer Resource from Infomagic\tab \tab 01\tab \tab = Rs. 2500/- \par 11\tab Linux Toolkit\tab from Walnut Creek\tab \tab \tab 01\tab = \tab Rs. 1750/- \par 12\tab FreeBSD 3.1\tab \tab \tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 1800/- \par 13\tab Turbo Linux 3.0.1 from Walnut Creek\tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 2500/- \par 14\tab Turbo Linux for PowerPC\tab \tab \tab \tab 01\tab \tab Rs. = 2500/- \par 15\tab Mk Linux 3.0 from Prime Time\tab \tab 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From prasadb@hd2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 2:21:9 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:51:09 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: Raj Mathur wrote: > 128-bit video is a misnomer, it is actually referring to the width of > the bus between the CPU and the graphics processor. Actually , I believe this is the width of the bus between the graphics controller chip and the video memory. The greater the bus width here , the more the resolution and refresh rates that the card can handle (IMHO). - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From shobhan@seeyes.co.in Tue Jun 1 6:6:19 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:36:19 +0530 From: shobhan Subject: Re: Linux Admins This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------2B6054BD03FB0F89A687BB0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested sksharma wrote: > I am interested , please give me detail > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: > >Sorry to post this here. One of the Internet companies in India is > >looking for Linux Administrators, if anyone is interested please let me > >know. > > > >Regards > >Prakash > >-- > >Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 > >US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > >email. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. - --------------2B6054BD03FB0F89A687BB0B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for shobhan Kumar Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: shobhan Kumar n: Kumar;shobhan org: SeeYes email;internet: shobhan@seeyes.co.in x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard - --------------2B6054BD03FB0F89A687BB0B-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sp_sarathy@iname.com Tue Jun 1 6:27:55 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:57:55 +0530 (IST) From: Parthasarathy Sundararajan Subject: On Hypermail archives.. Hi all, 1. I'd like to know : How to use the Hypermail archive files found in the Linux India Archives (at http://people.netscape.com/thaths/linux-india). Also pls note that I'm not quite sure about the tar commands. Can anyone pls help ? Thanks - - Partha - --------------------------------------------------------------- "From the seed of giving, grows the flower of getting." --- David Matoc - --------------------------------------------------------------- Parthasarathy Sundararajan India - -------------------------------- Email : sp_sarathy@iname.com Web : http://www.pradam.com http://www.grecoaching.com http://www.indianstudents.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From tarique@nagpur.dot.net.in Tue Jun 1 4:3:26 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:33:26 +0530 From: "SANIsoft" Subject: PostgreSQL + PHP Host? Hello Does any one know of an Indian web hosting company giving PostgreSQL + PHP. PHP should not be running as CGI TIA Swati Visit our Flash site http://www.nagpurcity.net/sanisoft/index3.html Send a Gift to Nagpur - http://www.NagpurCity-e.com Real Estate in Nagpur - http://www.transtechno.com - -----Original Message----- From: manas garg To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 1:01 PM Subject: Why two files?? (Re: Linux Startup file) >On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, V S Ashoka wrote: > >> Two of them, .bashrc and .bash_profile (provided you use bash >> shell) >> ashok >> > >Hi, > >Now that this issue has been taken up, I always wanted to know why there >are 2 files while one can do? > >Thanks > >Manas > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From N_Dinesh@maaln.satyam.net.in Tue Jun 1 6:57:13 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:27:13 +0530 From: N_Dinesh@maaln.satyam.net.in Subject: Re: Linux Admins iam interested as well shobhan on 06/01/99 06:36:19 PM Please respond to linux-india@aunet.org To: linux-india@aunet.org cc: (bcc: N Dinesh/Satyam) Subject: Re: Linux Admins I am interested sksharma wrote: > I am interested , please give me detail > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: > >Sorry to post this here. One of the Internet companies in India is > >looking for Linux Administrators, if anyone is interested please let me > >know. > > > >Regards > >Prakash > >-- > >Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 > >US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > >email. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. begin: vcard fn: shobhan Kumar n: Kumar;shobhan org: SeeYes email;internet: shobhan@seeyes.co.in x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From BAmu@hclt.com Tue Jun 1 7:32:4 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:32:04 GMT From: "B.Amudhan" Subject: Re: VHDL Software on LINUX Hi All From Alliance site you can download the freeware. http://www-asim.lip6.fr/alliance/ Other EDA tools are available at http://www.linuxeda.com/ and another good place to look at is http://www.freehdl.seul.org/ Regards B.Amudhan At 05:12 PM 6/1/99 IST, you wrote: >Hi, > >I am an M.Tech Electronics student interested very much in linux. >I recently heard that a VHDL software exists for linux which goes by the >name alliance. If somebody can help me in getting the software (ftp or other >downloadable sites) i will be very thankfull. > >thanks in advance. >raghu > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From ragu@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 7:21:14 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 19:51:14 +0530 From: Raghavendra Bhat Subject: Re: On Hypermail archives.. Parthasarathy Sundararajan wrote: > How to use the Hypermail archive files found in the Linux India Archives > (at http://people.netscape.com/thaths/linux-india). > Unzip the hypermail-list.tar.gz using 'gunzip (filename)' Untar the resulting .tar file using 'tar -xvf (filename)' Use the text-only browser 'lynx' to load up the 'index.html' and U R on. > Also pls note that I'm not quite sure about the tar commands. > 'man tar' Please note that U too have to do some reading and should not post very obvious questions to the list ;-) ragOO, VU2RGU. - -- Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.....Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From rfowkar@goa1.dot.net.in Tue Jun 1 8:28:31 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:28:31 +0500 From: Rajesh Subject: Re: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Hi Atul, By the way you have given a detailed account of How SiS6215 and Yamaha Sound Card are bad. You further say that they do not work properly under windows. But I am completly against you view. I purchased my PC 1-1/2 years back. It is a Zenith one up PC - 166MHZ and it came with SiS6215 and Yamaha Sound Card. Till now under Windows I never faced any problems due to these two cards. I have installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 from March PCQ 2 months back on my new Seagate 6.4 GB HDD. With the help of all the friends at Linux-India Mailing list I have been able to successfully configure both the display and sound card and now everthing works smoothly. Before writing such things you should consider that there are may people who have got both these cards on their PC. And people like me have not purchased those cards separatly because they are Cheap. They have come along with the PC. Rajesh At 01-Jun-99 4:15:00 PM, you wrote: >> However, I >> thought Linux would run out of the box, and I would not need to >> buy further >> stuff to make it run. (And I was cheesed off that I still have to use '98 >> for browsing, after loading Linux - that was the *real* issue) > >I don't understand why you say you cannot use Linux just because you can't >get X started (which is probably because you have a cheap, unsupported >display card like the SiS6215 [Rs.200 wholesale] in your machine instead of >a decent card like a Matrox G100 (<2K) or even a S3 Virge/DX [~Rs.1000]. > >> Pls don't hit me with more rebukes, if its possible for me to *buy* the X >> server in India, I would appreciate a contact number. > >Accelerated X is available fom GT Enterprises (http://www.gtcdrom.com). Be >aware though that it is *expensive* - in that money you could happily buy >yourself a more than decent display card and get going. > >List admins - I advocate a page on the linux-india site that clearly lists >equipment that will not work with Linux (since this list would be shorter >than a list of things Linux *does* work with) so that people configuring >machines don't make the mistake of "a display card is a display card". > >I am especially miffed with the SiS6215 cards - I have recently discovered >that there are many versions of these - some of which seem to work with >XFree86, some of them don't. > >Let us all take a moment here to bend our heads and pray that the next >system integrator to offer anyone a SiS6215 card will get chewed up by a >herd of rabid hyenas, and then get trampled by a herd of elephants >(unsuccessfully) learning ballroom dancing. > >The insane Yamaha sound cards with their varying chipsets and infinite >variations in BIOSs should be also be subjected to soccer practice with a >doped out team from South America - just after bowling practice with the >West Indians. These cards don;t even work properly under *Windows*! > >Atul > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From vsashok@tifr.res.in Tue Jun 1 8:27:11 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:57:11 +0530 (IST) From: V S Ashoka Subject: Re: On Hypermail archives.. > Also pls note that I'm not quite sure about the tar commands. tar is actually `tape archive'. But one can fool the system by asking it to create a tape archive onto a file on the disk - you will use tar option targetfile sourcefiles eg: tar cvf mp.tar *.htm would put all the files with htm extention into mp.tar (c is create, v is verbose and f is file - otherwise the machine would like to send it to standard output which is a tape drive.) You would use to `untar' it, tar xf mp.tar or tar xvf mp.tar (verbose will give you a list of what it is doing, x is for extract) tar will not compress. So you compress it further by using gzip or `compress' thus creating tar.gz, tgz or tar.Z files. Ashok - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 9:10:24 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:40:24 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Rajesh wrote: > By the way you have given a detailed account of How SiS6215 and Yamaha > Sound Card are bad. You further say that they do not work properly under windows. > But I am completly against you view. You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, just as I am to mine. > I purchased my PC 1-1/2 years back. It is a Zenith one up PC - 166MHZ and it came > with SiS6215 and Yamaha Sound Card. Till now under Windows I never faced any > problems due to these two cards. > > I have installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 from March PCQ 2 months back on my new > Seagate 6.4 GB HDD. With the help of all the friends at Linux-India Mailing list I have > been able to successfully configure both the display and sound card and now everthing > works smoothly. If you carefully *read* my note again, you will miraculously discover that I actually addressed this issue. Both the SiS6215 and the cheaper Yamaha cards come in an infinite variety of flavours, as I discovered after *lots* of research. You will probably find it surprising to know that right here on my desk I have a SiS6215 card that will *not*, under *any* circumstances, work with Xfree86. And don't forget that I *do* know how to make XFree86 work with such a card. The point is that that there are minute differences - probably at chip level (in Taiwan and China they do not have so stringent name-component rules as in the USA or Europe) that stop the card in its tracks. Another prime example on my shelf is a Yamaha card (one of 7 pieces) that not only does not work under Linux, but doesn't work properly under Windows 98 even if the supplied drivers are installed - Wave sound keeps dying, and the card goes ito loops quite often. Amazingly, the card *does* work under Windows 95 (but not OSR 2!). > Before writing such things you should consider that there are may people who have got > both these cards on their PC. And people like me have not purchased those cards separatly > because they are Cheap. They have come along with the PC. Before making the move of dressing me down in public, I'd suggest that you *read* what I had written. The point is that customers can (and should!) dictate what equipment they get when they buy a machine. If they know up front that some particular equipment is likely to cause them grief, then they can tell the vendor not to supply that, but something that costs the same *but WORKS*. People spend a lot of money on computers. People also spend a lot of money buying vegetables. But do they buy veggies eyes shut? Nope - they pick out the bad stuff and refuse to accept it. So why is it that they buy computer equipment without checking with anyone about what they are getting? My suggestion (which continues to stand) is to put up a list of known troublemaker equipment so that buyers can specifically tell their vendors that they do *not* want any of that equipment in their new machines. To prove my point about the SiS6215, I invite you to check around - which display card has caused the most problems for people installing Linux - anywhere in India? Ask PCQ, and in a few weeks from now, ask CHIP. Hell - ask the RedHat/Debian/SuSE/Caldera/etc. people! Also feel free to ask what sound cards they had the most problems with. What the heck - ask yourself! Did you manage to install the cards without assistance easily and quickly? Are you happy with the display/sound you get? Wouldn't you have been happier had they been autodetected like the cheap G100/S3/Cirrus cards are? Where you get better resolution, higher refresh rates and troublefree operation? How about wavetable sound from your sound card? Did you get X11AMP running first shot without thinking about it? Did 16-bit sound work for you out of the box? Or did you have to ask for help? Come on Rajesh - I read this list as much as you do - we have all seen the endless queries about non-configurable SiS6215 and Yamaha cards, so why choose to pick on me when I suggest that we help people avoid that agony? Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From wye@anaggha.com Tue Jun 1 8:0:14 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:30:14 +0530 From: "Wye Enterprises" Subject: Re: Unable to Dial From my modem > On Sat, 29 May 1999, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > > S Chetan Kumar wrote: > > I have the same modem in my office. recently purchased. Iam using it in > > both linux and windows. Exactly tell the problem. Imay of help. > > Ok here is the exact problem description. > > Modem 56Kbps, Dlink. > > I fireup minicom, then type > > ATDP161 > > Then I can hear dial tone from my modem speaker, (In the previous mail I > had mentioned I was not able, but now I am able, was to increase the > volume) > > Then I just after few seconds the modem goes on hook, and on the minicom > screen I get > > NO DIALTONE GY>> MOST EXCHANGES BEING INSTALLED NOW HAVE THIS PROBLEM U CAN OVERCOME THIS BY ADDING THE FOLLWOING IN UR INIT STRING ATX0 THSI WILL WORK... > So my modem is not able to recognise the dial tone. Well Mr Gandhi, can > you give the S register settings on ur modem. Like if you run minicom what > are the initilation you do. > > And one more thing will the DIAL TONE frequenecy changes with exchanges, I > am B'lore in Malleshwarm xchange > > -Chetan S > > > -- > > L.V.Gandhi > > MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA > > http://www.poboxes.com/lvgandhi lvgandhi@poboxes.com, > > lvgandhi@vsnl.com, 31882656@pager.mirabilis.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > > email. > > > > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all > progress depends on the unreasonable man. > -- George Bernard Shaw > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From munirk@giasbma.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 10:18:9 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:48:09 +0530 From: munir keshwani Subject: RE: problems with linux... - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BEAC81.24A4EEA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well I don't know how loadlin.exe work and what the parameters and other things that has to be done please let me know - -----Original Message----- From: S Chetan Kumar [SMTP:chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:14 PM To: linux-india@aunet.org Subject: Re: problems with linux... On Mon, 31 May 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > > > > Well I have a 200 mmx machine with pci 5446 2mb vga card and 4.3 hdd I = > > have win 98 on the mbr .=20 I can load linux from the pcquest but will it > > be possible for me that = when ever I start my comp. A menu will appear > > and ask me to boot from = win 98 or linux so need not put the lilo loader Why don't you do that urself put some script in autoexec.bat that displays a message like "Type Y to boot linux", that if typed key is Y, you run loadlin.exe, else continue with rest. 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At university we use Sun Solaris, and at home I have Red Hat 5.2. I am comming to India this July after four years(a long time). I would appreciate if someone could give me the address of this GT Enterprise, so that I can have a look around. Also, how is the scene with UNIX like system in India? I mean is it getting popular among the masses, or is it still considered a complicated, and a cumbersome system to use. Your help will be much appreciated. Siddahrth Kashyap. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From s_kashya@alcor.concordia.ca Tue Jun 1 10:44:5 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:44:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Siddharth Subject: Re: Linux Startup file Hi there, The stratup used depends on the shell that you are using. At the prompt type: echo $shell Now, if you are using Red Hat, and did not change the shell, you should see: /bin/bash In that case, open your .bashrc file, and you will see the entry for path. You can modify this path. After modifcation, logout, and then login. It should work. -Siddharth Kashyap On Mon, 31 May 1999, Rajesh wrote: > Hi friends, > > Can anybody tell me which startup file is executed when we login into a linux machine. > Which file executes the path and other relevant startup commands. > > I have installed gnome with enlightenment as the Windows Manager. But when I try > to open Esound it gives me error saying that the file is not in path. Change the path. > > Thanking in advance. > > > Regards > > Rajesh > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From linux_india@yahoo.com Tue Jun 1 10:45:26 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:45:26 -0700 (PDT) From: linux penguin Subject: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES India must stop buying binaries from "enemy" nations like Pakistan, etc....etc.. India must also STOP buying computer chips whose source-code is NOT available to them!! If India tries to sell binaries and computer chips to Europeans/Americans, Europeans/Americans will NOT take any garbage/shit from INDIA. Europeans/Americans are very smart!! India need not re-invent the wheel - just take LINUX OS, APACHE web-server, g++/gcc compilers, PostgreSQL, MySQL databases, free EDA/VHDL tools for linux (there are hundreds of them), Netscape communicator/Navigator, scripting languages - PERL, Python, GUI frontends - Tcl/Tk, GNOME, KDE KDevelop, Java Freebuilder, Office-suites like StarOffice, ApplixWare, CorelOffice, MailServers - SendMail, CAD - LinuxCAD, Development tools - CVS, RCS, etc... etc...and many more tools!! Educated people MUST train the local industries to take, assimilate and digest LINUX OS and all linux tools! Everybody will say "India is buying binaries and Indian students are begging for jobs in USA!!!" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 11:7:58 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:37:58 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, linux penguin wrote: > India must stop buying binaries from "enemy" nations like Pakistan, > etc....etc.. [snip] > Everybody will say "India is buying binaries and Indian students are > begging for jobs in USA!!!" (sigh) Here we are trying to propagate the concept of openness and cooperation, when along comes someone whose mind is closed and he wants everyone else to shut theirs as well. > Do You Yahoo!? No, but I can see that you do. This is the linux-india mailing list - we don't need any advocacy or patriotism here - we all use Linux, and we all are Indians. Why carry coals to newcastle? Thaths, I was more comfortable when we were "subscriber-posts-only". Atul p.s. It is hilarious to note that the post came from the USA - so much for practicing what one preaches ;-) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From swaps@netscape.net Tue Jun 1 11:12:29 1999 Date: 1 Jun 99 13:12:29 CDT From: SWAPS Subject: Re: significance of bits "K.Muralidharan" wrote: > = > Can anyone tell me the significance of no of bits when people speak > about 32,64 bit sound cards,128 bit video cards,etc.As far as I know > barring the Alpha CPU, all are 32bit CPUs. > = If you look at a typical computer architecture, each component is a subsy= stem which interfaces with the standard buses. The subsystems can have their o= wn # of bits for interfacing with its own dedicated memory (SGRAM for graphics= ). e.g. the CPU has a direct connection with the main memory using 32 bit bu= s. The video graphics subsystem has its own memory which directly connects t= o graphics chipset. This internal bus may run at 128 bits but the interface= to the main memory (using PCI or AGP) is always 32 bits in Pentium class m/c= =2E = The different system components are connected using PCI, ISA, AGP, USB, Serial, Parallel, Firewire etc which are of different bits. HTH - -swaps ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 11:13:20 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:43:20 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: RE: Libraries On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: >I am using the default (RH 5.2 from PCQ) and I have installed all the >libraries from that. It seems that the CD was not shipped with these >libraries. So.. ?? > >Manas Ditto for me Manas i installed the pcq distribution with glibc but the following libraries were not avilable on my system however i could get linneighbourhood to run by just reinstalling glibc frm an other source Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From tusar@agfe.iitkgp.ernet.in Tue Jun 1 11:9:51 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:39:51 +0530 (IST) From: Tusarkanti Nayak Subject: RE: problems with linux... loadlin works like this syntax..u got to have the vmlinuz for that also.. syntax: loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/ boot=/dev/ Tusar On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, munir keshwani wrote: > Well I don't know how loadlin.exe work and what the parameters and other things that has to be done please let me know > > > -----Original Message----- > From: S Chetan Kumar [SMTP:chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:14 PM > To: linux-india@aunet.org > Subject: Re: problems with linux... > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > > > > > > > Well I have a 200 mmx machine with pci 5446 2mb vga card and 4.3 hdd I = > > > have win 98 on the mbr .=20 I can load linux from the pcquest but will it > > > be possible for me that = when ever I start my comp. A menu will appear > > > and ask me to boot from = win 98 or linux so need not put the lilo loader > > Why don't you do that urself put some script in autoexec.bat that displays > a message like "Type Y to boot linux", that if typed key is Y, you run > loadlin.exe, else continue with rest. > Doesn't this work ?? > > -Chetan S > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > Tusarkanti Nayak Junior Project Officer Agril. & Food Eng. Dept. Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur - 721 302, INDIA Ph - +91-3222-55221 Extn - 4563 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #19 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 11:17:19 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:47:19 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Re: Linux not recog. svga card On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: >I installed Linux from the PCQ, along with updates in April. > 1) Linux recognizes the VGA16 card, not my SVGA card, due to which I >cant > see the lower half of many apps. How to get it to recognize the SVGA >??? (My > '98 is able to give me high res) > > The card is s3 trio3d agp > 2)Netscape loads with many errors, and doesnt show jpegs. > > > >Regards, >Rahul Kumar >Tel: 91-568810 Rahul i guess u have not configured ur Xserver. What xserver r u using neway . the s3 trio 3d card is good buy plus one of the easiest to configure in linux there is a server for this card available from the pcq distribution . U can select your xserver using the Xconfigurator tool. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 11:21:38 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:51:38 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Re: Sound card problem On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: >I ahve aztech 2320 sound card with modem. Later is disabled in the card. >During bootup msg appears pci device set and some parameters are >written. After that i get the msg that device is busy when sb compatibel >is set. How to stop previous PCI setting. I feel that is the culprit not >allowing the souncard to function. You don't have to disable your pci settings for the card to function (infact that is what allows the pci bus to be initialized ). I guess ur problem is abt configuring your isapnp.conf file for the right parameters Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 11:29:20 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:59:20 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: RE: Libraries > >I am using the default (RH 5.2 from PCQ) and I have installed all the > >libraries from that. It seems that the CD was not shipped with these > >libraries. So.. ?? > > Ditto for me Manas i installed the pcq distribution with glibc but the > following libraries were not avilable on my system however i could get > linneighbourhood to run by just reinstalling glibc frm an other source Since PCQ didn;t change the RH distro in any way, and since several of my machines run RHL 5.2 installed off the same server *and* have linneighborhood installed, I beg to differ. In fact, RHL 5.0 was the first Linux distro to ship with glibc - causing a furore of its own. What I suspect is that you downloaded a binary that was compiled to run under glibc 2.1 - which is shipped with RHL 6.0 (and the latest Debian and Caldera, I gather). Since the complete RedHat Linux is glibc based since version 5.0, you wouldn't even be able to boot your machine if glibc was missing. And *if* by chance it is missing, it can only be because you chose not to install it, though I wouldnt be able to understand how your machine would work then. Try "rpm -qa | grep glibc" and let's see what it says. And I would also be interested in the output of "ldd /usr/local/bin/LinNeighborhood" Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 11:26:23 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:56:23 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Re: Linux Startup file On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: >Hi friends, > >Can anybody tell me which startup file is executed when we login into a linux machine. >Which file executes the path and other relevant startup commands. When a linux box initialises, script files in the /etc/rc directory are initialised the first to be initialised is the rc script which calls on other scripts such as the rc.sysinit script and others When u login to ur shell the .bashrc (if u r using bash ) script is initialised. the directory structure used above is valid for redhat distributions only - -- Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From shibumi@mailandnews.com Tue Jun 1 11:36:16 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:36:16 +0000 From: Rajkumar Andrews Subject: Advocacy Page on Linux India Mailing List AHEM (YES) to this idea (of having an advocacy page on which hardware WILL NOT be supported by Linux). I too get friends in the corporate world who have *rubbish* hardware assembled for them which are completely useless (which includes and is not limited to graphics cards, awful sound cards, horrible CD rom drives, and funny looking mice which seems to have complete freedom onscreen!! I believe some of our Indian guys drew up a questionnaire which ought to be filled up about hardware (settings, etc) before configuring linux. This questionnaire (I forget the exact term; is available on one of the free sites on the internet, and bundled with the Red Hat official releases) is not taken seriously. Perhaps the linux-india website ought to have a link to this questionnaire. Secondly, there are times on this mailing list when the postings and cross postings simply deal with graphics cards (or their non-performance)! Shucks, just because the market is filled with spurious stuff Linux ought not to be blamed for non-performance. Regards, Rajkumar Andrews Atul Chitnis wrote: > List admins - I advocate a page on the linux-india site that clearly lists > equipment that will not work with Linux (since this list would be shorter > than a list of things Linux *does* work with) so that people configuring > machines don't make the mistake of "a display card is a display card". > > I am especially miffed with the SiS6215 cards - I have recently discovered > that there are many versions of these - some of which seem to work with > XFree86, some of them don't. > > Let us all take a moment here to bend our heads and pray that the next > system integrator to offer anyone a SiS6215 card will get chewed up by a > herd of rabid hyenas, and then get trampled by a herd of elephants > (unsuccessfully) learning ballroom dancing. > > The insane Yamaha sound cards with their varying chipsets and infinite > variations in BIOSs should be also be subjected to soccer practice with a > doped out team from South America - just after bowling practice with the > West Indians. These cards don;t even work properly under *Windows*! > > Atul > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 11:35:19 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:05:19 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Re: problems with linux... On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, you wrote: >On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 10:42:13AM -0700, did owner-linux-india@aunet.org write: >> Message-ID: <01BEABBC.0DC26E80@MUNIR KESHWANI> >> From: munir keshwani >> To: "Linux (E-mail)" >> Subject: help >> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:17:17 +0530 >> >> Well I have a 200 mmx machine with pci 5446 2mb vga card and 4.3 hdd I = >> have win 98 on the mbr .=20 I can load linux from the pcquest but will it >> be possible for me that = when ever I start my comp. A menu will appear >> and ask me to boot from = win 98 or linux so need not put the lilo loader >> Well one of my friend has done it but he is not accessible now all I can >> = recollect is he had done it through linuz or some utility like that. >> Can anybody help and get me a solution Hey he did it something in the >> autoexec.bat and config.sys . > Well i can not think of any way in which autoexec.bat and config.sys can be manipulated to load an os . if you r looking for a graphical menu based bootloader i have recently downloaded a bootloader called gag it is an excellent boot loader though it causes some problems in booting from extended dos partitions . I have put the file up on my webpage for downloading ps -- would somebody tell me if it is legal to put up files under the gpl lisence for free downloading after making some changes without the knowledge of the author. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From indradg@cal.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 11:44:55 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:14:55 +0530 From: "Indranil Das Gupta" Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES I wonder --> how do certain intellectually-challenged instances of humanity gets to hear about Linux in the first place, and end up destroying the remaining cells of their cerebral cortex!!!! - --Indra - ---------- > From: linux penguin > To: linuxindia > Subject: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES > Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:15 PM > > India must stop buying binaries from "enemy" nations like Pakistan, > etc....etc.. > India must also STOP buying computer chips whose source-code is NOT > available to them!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 11:44:44 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:14:44 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Re: problems with linux... On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, you wrote: >On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 10:42:13AM -0700, did owner-linux-india@aunet.org write: >> Message-ID: <01BEABBC.0DC26E80@MUNIR KESHWANI> >> From: munir keshwani >> To: "Linux (E-mail)" >> Subject: help >> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:17:17 +0530 >> >> Well I have a 200 mmx machine with pci 5446 2mb vga card and 4.3 hdd I = >> have win 98 on the mbr .=20 I can load linux from the pcquest but will it >> be possible for me that = when ever I start my comp. A menu will appear >> and ask me to boot from = win 98 or linux so need not put the lilo loader >> Well one of my friend has done it but he is not accessible now all I can >> = recollect is he had done it through linuz or some utility like that. >> Can anybody help and get me a solution Hey he did it something in the >> autoexec.bat and config.sys . > Well i can not think of any way in which autoexec.bat and config.sys can be manipulated to load an os . if you r looking for a graphical menu based bootloader i have recently downloaded a bootloader called gag it is an excellent boot loader though it causes some problems in booting from extended dos partitions . I have put the file up on my webpage for downloading http://home.talkcity.com/sonnetst/rikku/gagenl.zip ps -- would somebody tell me if it is legal to put up files under the gpl lisence for free downloading after making some changes without the knowledge of the author. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From hdoshi@cal2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 12:9:41 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 00:39:41 +0530 From: Rutvik Doshi Subject: Re: Sound card problem S Chetan Kumar wrote: > On Mon, 31 May 1999, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > > I ahve aztech 2320 sound card with modem. Later is disabled in the card. > > During bootup msg appears pci device set and some parameters are > > written. After that i get the msg that device is busy when sb compatibel > > is set. How to stop previous PCI setting. I feel that is the culprit not > > If I am not wrong that should be done in rc.sysinit. I can not remember > off-hand what is doing that, just checkup /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit > > -Chetan S > > > allowing the souncard to function. > > -- > > L.V.Gandhi > Hi even i've a Aztech2320 sound card and i faced simmilar problems as you are facing..The sound card needs to be initialized using the isapnp tools...setup the correct IRQ and DMA settings in the /etc/isapnp.conf file . This will initialize your Aztech2320 card b'for the sound modules are loaded...But even afer lot of tweaking around i've not managed to get it work in the 16bit mode.. it works only in the 8 bit mode...so i can't play the mp3 files using x11amp.It will be highly appreciated if anybody can help me configure it so that i can make it work in the 16 bit mode...I've RH 5.2 running kernel 2.2.and i've tried out all the availablre optionn in sndconfig thanks rutvik - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Tue Jun 1 11:53:20 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:53:20 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES Atul Chitnis proclaimed: > Thaths, I was more comfortable when we were "subscriber-posts-only". thaths@www:~ 9$ grep linux_india /var/lib/majordomo/lists/linux-india linux_india@yahoo.com He *is* part of the list. I have a strong suspicion that this is Al Dev's new email address. :-) Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Tue Jun 1 12:4:30 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:04:30 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES linux penguin proclaimed: > India must stop buying binaries from "enemy" nations like Pakistan, > etc....etc.. Could you give us numbers on how many binaries India buys from "enemy" nations like Pakistan? I do not see any Linux related information in your post. If you are REALLY interested in Linux Advocacy, I strongly recommend that you read the Advocacy HOWTO (http://metalab.unc.edu/linux/HOWTO/mini/Advocacy.html). Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Tue Jun 1 12:9:13 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:09:13 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: significance of bits On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 01:12:29PM -0500, SWAPS wrote: > "K.Muralidharan" wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me the significance of no of bits when people speak > > about 32,64 bit sound cards,128 bit video cards,etc.As far as I know > > barring the Alpha CPU, all are 32bit CPUs. Incorrect. MIPS and Sparc have had 64 bit implementation for years. In contemporary microprocessor architecture, the bitness of a CPU is defined by the number of bits in the virtual address i.e. ability to address a large amount of memory in one process/address space. In short, if your pointers are 64 bits, your CPU is 64 bits. About other components (peripherals etc), it's the size of data transferred from the device to memory. The wider the data path, the faster the device, at the same clock speed. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 12:1:22 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 00:31:22 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: SiS 6215 cards not all that bad hye though i totally agree with atul , that most of us are fooled by our assemblers into buying this card , but one must also remember that it is extremely good value for money (Rs. 200) . As far as configuring this card is concerned i myself have configured 8 of theese cards and have been successful with all of them , the only hassle being wht works for one does not for the other. To configure theese cards u need to keep trying with all possible changes to the device section of your XF86config file . I guess since all cards on this chipset are not assembled on the same circuit it is possible to have various configurations And yes I also hope Atuls's wishes regarding any assembler who forces the card down somebodys throat without telling him it's shortcomings are fulfilled. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From balajir@paul.rutgers.edu Tue Jun 1 12:29:38 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Balaji Ramani Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > thaths@www:~ 9$ grep linux_india /var/lib/majordomo/lists/linux-india > linux_india@yahoo.com > > He *is* part of the list. I have a strong suspicion that this is Al Dev's > new email address. :-) After reading your post, I looked at the headers from a previous post by Al Dev and this post. Both the posts originated from 198.207.223.250!!! So, obviously it is Al Dev in disguise. Balaji - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 12:43:57 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:13:57 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Balaji Ramani wrote: > After reading your post, I looked at the headers from a previous post by > Al Dev and this post. > > Both the posts originated from 198.207.223.250!!! So, obviously it is Al > Dev in disguise. Good detective work, Balaji! Tsk, tsk - how cheap can one get? Could we have a spam filter on that IP address, please? Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 12:32:12 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:02:12 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Linux compatibility ... Hye How can one determine if the unix version of any software will run on a linux machine?? Doesn't linux support older unix type of binaries ??? so shouldn't all unix software run easily on linux ??? -- Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Tue Jun 1 13:24:44 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 01:54:44 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Cache and linux hye i have noticed that after using my system for some time it makes many more disk accesses than at the start and the performance also goes down . Are there any utilities like cacheman for linux which would clean the cache ? Is there any other solution to solve the problem .?? Where can i find some documentation on managing memory under linux ?? Regards Karan - -- Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From swaps@netscape.net Tue Jun 1 13:51:20 1999 Date: 1 Jun 99 15:51:20 CDT From: SWAPS Subject: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? > portable systems and protocols. I even pay for software I buy. However,= I > thought Linux would run out of the box, and I would not need to buy fur= ther > stuff to make it run. (And I was cheesed off that I still have to use '= 98 You cannot expect to run Linux out of the box for all possible configurat= ion but only some. Companies like MS can which invest in creating drivers for= all those configs. can, yet you find so many times it does not run properly u= nder Win9x also. You have to understand that Linux and OSS can succeed if comp= anies are forthcoming on their specs and developers are eager to develop for th= em. In a way I would say that the responsibility of Linux running 'out of the= box' lies on you and us. Unless we give feedbacks to our problems and how we s= olved them the next person would have that much difficulty. As to your problem (I think it was Tri3D) I got the following info from www.searchlinux.com under Subject: Still no S3 Trio3D support in XFree86 3.3.3.1??? " The XFree86 FAQ states that they received the hardware documentation in= Nov. '98 and support would be in an upcoming release .... WHEN!?! It's May '99 for jimmy's sake!@ " HTH - -swaps ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From biswa@ei-16-5.eigenmann.indiana.edu Tue Jun 1 15:52:47 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:52:47 -0500 (EST) From: Biswajoy Brahmachari Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES Overagressiveness and the tendencies to uncecessarily redicule fellow humans is a genetic disorder which often exists in pure breeds. We Indians have overcome `THAT' a couple of thousand years ago due to obvious reasons. Hence whether we buy binaries or we develop Linux codes we will remain happy about it. SORRY, I think this discussion is redundant. Biswa - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From aravindb@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 15:20:6 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 03:20:06 +0500 From: Aravind Balasubramanian Subject: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Hi >List admins - I advocate a page on the linux-india site that clearly lists >equipment that will not work with Linux (since this list would be shorter >than a list of things Linux *does* work with) so that people configuring >machines don't make the mistake of "a display card is a display card". I was just about to suggest this. I also suggest a page/even a mailing list for linux/freeos jobs from the linux-india and chennailug sites Regards Aravind. Balasubramanian p.s. Are there any HAMS (Amateur Radio) on the list. My callsign is VU2ABS. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From swaps@netscape.net Tue Jun 1 15:22:10 1999 Date: 1 Jun 99 17:22:10 CDT From: SWAPS Subject: Re: [RE: ] "Atul Chitnis" wrote: > Slight correction - this is correct for video cards. For sound cards, t= he > number actually stands for simultaneous MIDI voices, not any bus width.= > = > For example, the Creative AWE32 can control 32 voices simultaneously, w= hile > the SoundBlaster 16 cannot. > = > The AWE64 is actually the AWE32 with software add-ons for the extra 32 > voices. The SBLive handles 256 voices. SB 16, AWE32 and AWE64 are all 16 bit cards as they all plug into 16 bit = ISA slot. The 16/32/64 in these has nothing to do with the bus width I think.= - -swaps ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From swaps@netscape.net Tue Jun 1 15:37:15 1999 Date: 1 Jun 99 17:37:15 CDT From: SWAPS Subject: Re: [Business in the open? (GPL Vs. ...)] > A Doubt: > Companies may not like to reveal their modus operandi to the world. > So,the OSS which is customised for the company must be availabe to the > company alone. Does GPL provide for this? = > = There may be a solution by making a modular system. The base system can b= e under a liberal license like LGPL etc and the modules may be under all ki= nds of license. You can have modules like CORE system with submodules like printing/FAX/report system is under GPL and FINANCE/HR module with submod= ules under different license. There is a project running at erp@lwn.net to create an ERP package. You c= an get more details at http://members.iweb.net.au/~steveoc/ERP/ HTH - -swaps ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Tue Jun 1 16:23:59 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:23:59 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: significance of bits Arun Sharma proclaimed: > In contemporary microprocessor architecture, the bitness of a CPU is > defined by the number of bits in the virtual address i.e. ability to > address a large amount of memory in one process/address space. I thought that the bitness of a processor was the size of the registers in the processor or the width of the data bus. At least that is what I remember (I might be wrong) the Goankar microprocessor text book as saying. Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Tue Jun 1 16:25:40 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:25:40 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Linux compatibility ... Karan Girotra proclaimed: > How can one determine if the unix version of any software will run on > a linux machine?? > Doesn't linux support older unix type of binaries ??? > so shouldn't all unix software run easily on linux ??? Binaries will not run across various unices. If you have the source of the software that was compiled for some flavour of unix, there is a higher chance that it could be ported / compiled on a Linux machine with little / no modification. Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From vishal128@hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 17:57:4 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:57:04 PDT From: "Vishal Rao" Subject: RE: problems with linux... well....RTFM... >From: munir keshwani > >Well I don't know how loadlin.exe work and what the parameters and other >things that has to be done please let me know > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From vishal128@hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 18:1:13 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:01:13 PDT From: "Vishal Rao" Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES wtg balaji! >From: Balaji Ramani > > He *is* part of the list. I have a strong suspicion that this is Al >Dev's > > new email address. :-) > >After reading your post, I looked at the headers from a previous post by >Al Dev and this post. > >Both the posts originated from 198.207.223.250!!! So, obviously it is Al >Dev in disguise. > >Balaji _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 18:35:47 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:05:47 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES > Everybody will say "India is buying binaries and Indian students are > begging for jobs in USA!!!" Too true. And you are/were one such begger. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 18:49:4 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:19:04 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Consider this case: I have been pushing technology into some hard - skulled guys at out org. I have switched them from keyboard to mouse, Dos to Win and From Novell 3.x to NT to Linux. Now, I have moved them from .dbf to postgres/oracle. Currently, I advocated having multimedia for every machine in the office (for sound feedback). I know this is not any big leap or push of technology like the above but anyhow, I felt like it. To convince them, I said. "Its not at all costly. Monitors with speakers cost +Rs. 1k and a sound card like *Yamaha* is ~Rs 850. Why not spend ~+Rs.2k on a machine?". Well, if Yamaha card is /dev/nul, then what is the next best card for us? - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 18:50:57 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:20:57 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? > List admins - I advocate a page on the linux-india site that clearly lists > equipment that will not work with Linux (since this list would be shorter > than a list of things Linux *does* work with) so that people configuring > machines don't make the mistake of "a display card is a display card". The prob is that our list's FAQ is too silly and lean. Someome asks a question and someone in the list flares at him to check the archives. Why not put repeated Qs in our FAQ? Or alteast link to other FAQs on the net? Also, creation if linux-india-programmers list was a great idea. why not create a linux-novice or something for the newbies? that way newbies can post more. (But then is there a danger that gurus may not pay attention to newbies?) > variations in BIOSs should be also be subjected to soccer practice with a > oped out team from South America - just after bowling practice with the > West Indians. These cards don;t even work properly under *Windows*! hehe... I cant help but notice the new humor thats crept into Atul... - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 18:59:48 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:29:48 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: #!/bin/rootshell Can someone say me how I can run a shell script as suid root? - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From cmbalaji@bgl.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 17:59:17 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 05:59:17 +0500 From: BALAJI MASILAMANI Subject: Re: problems with linux... At 00:14 02/06/99 +0530, you wrote: >On Tue, 01 Jun 1999, you wrote: >>On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 10:42:13AM -0700, did owner-linux-india@aunet.org write: >>> Message-ID: <01BEABBC.0DC26E80@MUNIR KESHWANI> >>> From: munir keshwani >>> To: "Linux (E-mail)" >>> Subject: help >>> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:17:17 +0530 >>> >>> Well I have a 200 mmx machine with pci 5446 2mb vga card and 4.3 hdd I = >>> have win 98 on the mbr .=20 I can load linux from the pcquest but will it >>> be possible for me that = when ever I start my comp. A menu will appear >>> and ask me to boot from = win 98 or linux so need not put the lilo loader >>> Well one of my friend has done it but he is not accessible now all I can >>> = recollect is he had done it through linuz or some utility like that. >>> Can anybody help and get me a solution Hey he did it something in the >>> autoexec.bat and config.sys . >> If you want to multi boot for experimenting, I have a setup that does, Partition 1- Bootmanager Partition 2- DOS (with win 3.1) and OS/2 Partition 3- Windows 95 and Windows NT Partition 4- RedHat Linux 5.2 The active partition is the Boot manager and from there you can choose the OS that you want.Four partitions is the limit for Boot manager. You could try the System Commander if you wanted to multi boot more OSs, I haven't got around to it yet. You could use the above setup and choose the OSs that you want to checkout.Hope this is of some help. BALAJI - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #20 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From ragu@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 7:38:41 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:08:41 +0530 From: Raghavendra Bhat Subject: Re: Linux on AMD K6 ***WARNING*** Rajiv Dhinakaran wrote: > > So forget about overclocking *any* K6/2's. > K6-2 266 has been over clocked here to 300...Who says U can't over clock ? AMD had released a press note saying that they R going to stop the processor from being over clocked. Can anyone, in detail, elaborate on how they R going to achieve this ?? Pre-300 AMDs and AMD K6-2s still can be over clocked !! AMD line of processors are far better and technically superior to the current range of Pentium procs. They R far cheaper too.... ragOO, VU2RGU. - -- Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.....Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 20:28:38 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:58:38 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: India is always > Linux Mr. Al Dev, Please state clearly what you want: 1. India to use Linux to the fullest? _________________ 2. India to stop binaries Imports? _________________ 3. India should accept its inferiority and its a garbage/shit nation. _________________ Please answer the above clearly with Yes or No. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I bet you have a sore wound in your mind ((un-)/consiosly) and have some strong aversion to India. May be you were hurt deeply in your childhood by Indian society, social setup. So now you want your revenge on India and Indians. You want to appease your mind with the "victory" of all Indians accepting your supremacy. If you tell us exact things, may be we can understand you better. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ********* And you are using the Linux sentiment to guard yourself, as you don't have the courage to face us straight. That's why you say: - ------------------- > "Indians can not produce their own OS. Indians must not (and is stupid to) buy binaries from enemy > nations. So, Indians must "assimilate and digest LINUX OS"." You did *not* say: - ------------------ "Linux is a great OS. The binaries of enemies are of low quality. So, India must use Linux." And that's why you choose the name "linux penguin" and linux_india. As if you are advocating Linux, you are taking every chance to insult India. So your mission is *not* advocating Linux but insulting India. Let me say you. India is more important to us than Linux. We will burn Linux and use Microsoft Windows if required to guard the pride of India. We are not home less ******** to run after Linux and insulting our home land. We will *not* tolerate any insult to our land. So your linux-sentiment-shield will not work here. Even if I flame at Linux to safeguard Indian heritage, no Indian will question me. > Everybody will say "India is buying binaries and Indian students are begging for jobs in USA!!!" - ----------- - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyhow, the binary produced @ US is garbage/shit. And you yourself said that US will be using Linux 100% in 5 years. So, your garbage/shit is not even used by you garbage/shits. Lets come to a conclusion: The US, MS (and currently, Pak.) seem to have planned to hamper the growth of India by various measures and have hired Al Dev for it. He is planning to sabotage this list hence. Lets not give in to it. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From UD-VSH@vashi.ltindia.com Tue Jun 1 20:46:14 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:16:14 +0530 From: UDAY DESHPANDE Subject: samba from windows -Reply >>> Sunil Sarat 05/31/99 01:57pm >>> Hi, I've configured samba for a specific workgroup. Using smbclient, I am able to access win shares from my linux box. But how do I proceed to access my linux files from a win9x machine. I can't see my linux box in win9x network neighbourhood. Can some one guide me please. Thanks in advance Sunil Sarat ud-vsh@vashi.ltindia.com Yes Sunil I am also facing same problem but with one try I could able to access Linux m/c from 95. Login to your 95 machine as root (username:root) & password same as your linux root password. Now find the PC from 95 m/c. & you can able to see linux shares. But further to this I want to know how to establish similar connection betn. NT & Linux. Bye. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From srinivasag@synectics.soft.net Tue Jun 1 23:23:32 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:53:32 +0530 From: "Srinivasa G" Subject: Re: Linux not recog. svga card Hi, I believe the current version of XFree86 server does not support S3 Trio3D. These are some new cards along with S3 Savage3D that are not supported and may be supported in version 4. BTW, there are some commercial vendors . You can also check Dr.Sci-Tech. HTH, Srini. - -----Original Message----- From: Karan Girotra To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Linux not recog. svga card >On Mon, 31 May 1999, you wrote: >>I installed Linux from the PCQ, along with updates in April. >> 1) Linux recognizes the VGA16 card, not my SVGA card, due to which I >>cant >> see the lower half of many apps. How to get it to recognize the SVGA >>??? (My >> '98 is able to give me high res) >> >> The card is s3 trio3d agp >> 2)Netscape loads with many errors, and doesnt show jpegs. >> >> >> >>Regards, >>Rahul Kumar >>Tel: 91-568810 > >Rahul i guess u have not configured ur Xserver. What xserver r u using neway . >the s3 trio 3d card is good buy plus one of the easiest to configure in linux >there is a server for this card available from the pcq distribution . U can >select your xserver using the Xconfigurator tool. > > >Karan Girotra, >Indian Institute of Technology Delhi >91-011-6864507 >91-011-6862034 >Icq# 25636434 > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From ggupta@md2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 21:18:34 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:48:34 +0530 (IST) From: GAUTAM VSNL Subject: Re: Cache and linux i have also observed the same thing.in fact if i check virtual memory startx windows and shut it down the xwindows does not free all the memory.i had 10ms used before starting x after starting x i had 60ms used and after shutting it down 35ms used.where did the 25ms go? =Gautam On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Karan Girotra wrote: > > hye > i have noticed that after using my system for some time it makes many more disk > accesses than at the start and the performance also goes down . > Are there any utilities like cacheman for linux which would clean the cache ? > Is there any other solution to solve the problem .?? > Where can i find some documentation on managing memory under linux ?? > Regards > Karan > > > -- > > Karan Girotra, > Indian Institute of Technology Delhi > 91-011-6864507 > 91-011-6862034 > Icq# 25636434 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From spavri@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 21:49:8 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:49:08 +0500 From: "Dr. Pavri" Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES At 10:45 AM 6/1/99 -0700, you wrote: >India must stop buying binaries from "enemy" nations like Pakistan, >etc....etc.. >India must also STOP buying computer chips.... yech, not again, please, please, please. shahrukh. p.s.: Methinks this chap may be related to the Penguin from the Batman series; doesn't seem to be APNA penguin. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From spavri@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 21:57:38 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:57:38 +0500 From: "Dr. Pavri" Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES At 11:53 AM 6/1/99 -0700, you wrote: > >He *is* part of the list. I have a strong suspicion that this is Al Dev's >new email address. :-) > >Thaths you know, my first thought was.... not another al dev...... shahrukh - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lokesh@india.aspectdv.com Tue Jun 1 21:30:46 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:00:46 +0530 From: "Lokesh" Subject: Re: Yes, X runs fine on Creative extreme AGP card. lokesh - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 21:45:32 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:15:32 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: Linux on AMD K6 ***WARNING*** On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Raghavendra Bhat wrote: Hi, Can any one tell me how do I overclock a CPU, just by making jumper settings on MotherBoard ?? What are the sffect of this, say t1 clocked CPU(from factory) is overclocked to t2=x*t1, so will I know achieve a mips *= x ? And are there any other problems with this, like timing issues to may time critical programs ?? If CPU can be overclocked why don't chip maker market their t1 Hz CPU as t1*x Hz CPU ? Thanks - -Chetan S > Rajiv Dhinakaran wrote: > > > > So forget about overclocking *any* K6/2's. > > > > K6-2 266 has been over clocked here to 300...Who says U can't over clock > ? > AMD had released a press note saying that they R going to stop the > processor from being over clocked. Can anyone, in detail, elaborate on > how they R going to achieve this ?? Pre-300 AMDs and AMD K6-2s still > can be over clocked !! > > AMD line of processors are far better and technically superior to the > current range of Pentium procs. They R far cheaper too.... > > > > > ragOO, VU2RGU. > -- > Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.....Amateur Radio > Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From manasg@inf.com Tue Jun 1 21:42:34 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:12:34 +0530 (IST) From: manas garg Subject: RE: Libraries Hi, The problem is libraries is solved (or at least understood ;-). I had downloaded an rpm and it needed glibc 2.1. As Atul mentioned, RH 5.2 came with glibc 2.0.7-29. So, rpm --nodeps -i worked (As shobhit suggested) and I am happily working on LinNeighborhood. Though, it's giving me some problem in mounting (it oops and exits but that might be because glibc 2.1), as such it's working fine. Thanks Manas - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 21:49:16 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:19:16 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Any one used kvoice ?? Hello, As any one tried kvoice ?? I have couple of problems, could you please look in to it. 1) I am able to collect the voice message without any problem, when I open the kvoice I can see the voice mail message, but I am not able to play the voice message. I tried playing both on to modem spk and sound card, none works. Also I found that voice, mail were stored as Raw Modem Data, how do I play this. 2) I am not able to import any audio file as a greeting message. I say import new message, the select a file and save, that is it, the message is gone, if doen't appear in the greeting dialog. 3) I have DLink modem, but this modem is not listed in the modem type in the kvoice settings, what alternative should I select modem type as. - -Chetan S ____________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Tue Jun 1 21:42:55 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:42:55 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: [Business in the open? (GPL Vs. ...)] On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 05:37:15PM -0500, SWAPS wrote: > > A Doubt: > > Companies may not like to reveal their modus operandi to the world. > > So,the OSS which is customised for the company must be availabe to the > > company alone. Does GPL provide for this? > > > > There may be a solution by making a modular system. The base system can be > under a liberal license like LGPL etc and the modules may be under all kinds > of license. You can have modules like CORE system with submodules like > printing/FAX/report system is under GPL and FINANCE/HR module with submodules > under different license. The only caveat being: Linus won't accept code whose sole purpose is to enable a binary only module. As long as you are using standard system calls and interfaces, you are fine. To answer the original question: the company doesn't have to reveal the sources under GPL, as long as they don't publish the binaries. If you publish the binaries, you must publish source. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 21:54:54 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:24:54 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? > Currently, I advocated having multimedia for every machine in the office (for sound > feedback). I know this is not any big leap or push of technology like the above but anyhow, I > felt like it. To convince them, I said. "Its not at all costly. Monitors with speakers cost > +Rs. 1k and a sound card like *Yamaha* is ~Rs 850. Why not spend ~+Rs.2k on a machine?". > > Well, if Yamaha card is /dev/nul, then what is the next best card for us? I didn't say *all* Yamaha cards are bad. Please understand that most of these cards are Yamaha *chipset* cards, not actually made by Yamaha. There are specific models that cause problems - I propose that we should document known trouble makers so that people can avoid them. Unfortunately, I have been having problems with *every* Yamaha chipset sound card I have come across, just like I have had problems with *every* SiS display card. This is because vendors in India tend to move in packs - they will *all* ship one particular card during a particular period. My objective is to avoid the "Linux needs a lot of fiddling before it works" perspective - while it may be possible to get these cards going, it takes a lot of fiddling and fixing. On the other hand a card like a cheap Matrox G100 or S3 or a cheap Creative Soundblaster 16 (800 bucks, last time I checked) are recognised and work out of the box - giving a much better experience to the first time user. Please note that in order to succeed, Linux needs to ensure that it can be setup/run by a non-Linux-Guru. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 22:5:54 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:35:54 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: samba from windows -Reply On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, UDAY DESHPANDE wrote: > > > >>> Sunil Sarat 05/31/99 01:57pm >>> > Hi, > > I've configured samba for a specific workgroup. Using smbclient, I am able > Yes Sunil I am also facing same problem but with one try I could able to > access Linux m/c from 95. Login to your 95 machine as root > (username:root) & password same as your linux root password. Now find AAMOF(as a matter of fact) you can login to Windos as any valid user on Linux host, to be able to see certain share that are acceccable to user like /home/$USER. And there is no need to have same passwd as that on the linux host, and it can be dangerous, especially with the root account. (Remember Windows store passwd with simple hashing, which is very easy to decript). When you access any share, the a passwd is asked that you have to give ur passwd, again do not store this on windows for root account. > the PC from 95 m/c. & you can able to see linux shares. But further to this I > want to know how to establish similar connection betn. NT & Linux. It depends what type of access you want have. Linux can act as PDC for NT domain, so you an NT client can log on to Linux. From linux you can use smbclient. - -Chetan S > > Bye. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Tue Jun 1 21:58:26 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:58:26 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: significance of bits On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 04:23:59PM -0700, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > Arun Sharma proclaimed: > > In contemporary microprocessor architecture, the bitness of a CPU is > > defined by the number of bits in the virtual address i.e. ability to > > address a large amount of memory in one process/address space. > > I thought that the bitness of a processor was the size of the registers in > the processor or the width of the data bus. At least that is what I > remember (I might be wrong) the Goankar microprocessor text book as saying. Consider the book to be obsolete. Pentium III is regarded as a 32 bit microprocessor, even though it has some 128 bit registers, which can manipulate 128 bits at a time. The data bus is 64 bit wide, address bus is 36 bit wide. But Goankar is right in that the general purpose registers on a 32 bit microprocessor will still be 32 bit (because they're also used for addressing virtual memory). But the data bus doesn't have to be 32 bit. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From anshul@linuxmail.org Tue Jun 1 21:1:16 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:01:16 +0800 From: "Anshul Gupta" Subject: network configuration Hi all, I have installed Lan Card. I have given the following in the options, IP :- 192.156.141.100 Host :- linux Domain :- cyberworld.com gateway :- 192.156.141.100 primary name server :- 202.54.1.30 secondary name server :- 202.54.1.18 tertiary name server :- Actually i wanted that address 192.156.141.100 should become IP of my host machine. When started linux for the first time, it didn't responded after starting sendmail daemon. Is it because of some wrong config. waiting for reply, - -anshul __________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.linuxmail.org Powered by OutBlaze - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Tue Jun 1 22:3:37 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:03:37 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Cache and linux On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 01:54:44AM +0530, Karan Girotra wrote: > > hye > i have noticed that after using my system for some time it makes many > more disk accesses than at the start and the performance also goes > down . It's probably your X server, which has a memory leak and bloats up. Note down the size of the X server (ps aux | grep X) immediately after you startx and at the time when you see the perf degradation. If there is a large difference, you've got the culprit. Solution ? The only thing that I know of is to restart the X server. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. If you have the time and inclination, run the X server with memory leak detection libraries and fix them. > Are there any utilities like cacheman for linux which would clean the cache ? What cache ? -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Tue Jun 1 22:5:56 1999 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:05:56 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Cache and linux On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 09:48:34AM +0530, GAUTAM VSNL wrote: > i have also observed the same thing.in fact if i check virtual memory > startx windows and shut it down the xwindows does not free all the > memory.i had 10ms used before starting x after starting x i had 60ms used > and after shutting it down 35ms used.where did the 25ms go? Common misconception. Just because you shut X down doesn't mean that all the memory used by X will be free'd. The kernel keeps a copy of it, just so that if you start X again, it doesn't have to go to the disk. Kernel will start free'ing memory, only when some other program wants memory and there isn't any. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From asatsi@hotmail.com Tue Jun 1 22:6:25 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:06:25 PDT From: "Satish Pagare" Subject: Re: India is always - Linux Rather I would say INDIAN HACKER's UNITE AND FLOOD ( wud hv like to say ...uck here) PAK NET..... >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:58:38 +0530 > >Mr. Al Dev, > > Please state clearly what you want: > >1. India to use Linux to the fullest? >_________________ >2. India to stop binaries Imports? >_________________ >3. India should accept its inferiority and > its a garbage/shit nation. >_________________ > > >Please answer the above clearly with Yes or No. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I bet you have a sore wound in your mind ((un-)/consiosly) and have >some strong aversion to India. May be you were hurt deeply in your >childhood by Indian society, social setup. So now you want your revenge >on India and Indians. You want to appease your mind with the "victory" >of all Indians accepting your supremacy. If you tell us exact things, >may be we can understand you better. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >********* >And you are using the Linux sentiment to guard yourself, as you don't >have the courage to face us straight. > >That's why you say: >------------------- > > > "Indians can not produce their own OS. Indians must not (and is >stupid to) buy binaries from enemy > nations. So, Indians must >"assimilate and digest LINUX OS"." > >You did *not* say: >------------------ > "Linux is a great OS. The binaries of enemies are of low quality. So, >India must use Linux." > >And that's why you choose the name "linux penguin" and linux_india. > > As if you are advocating Linux, you are taking every chance to >insult India. So your mission is *not* advocating Linux but insulting >India. > Let me say you. India is more important to us than Linux. We will >burn Linux and use Microsoft Windows if required to guard the pride of >India. We are not home less ******** to run after Linux and insulting >our home land. We will *not* tolerate any insult to our land. > So your linux-sentiment-shield will not work here. Even if I flame >at Linux to safeguard Indian heritage, no Indian will question me. > > > Everybody will say "India is buying binaries and Indian students are >begging for jobs in USA!!!" >----------- >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Anyhow, the binary produced @ US is garbage/shit. And you yourself said >that US will be using Linux 100% in 5 years. So, your garbage/shit is >not even used by you garbage/shits. > > >Lets come to a conclusion: The US, MS (and currently, Pak.) seem to have >planned to hamper the growth of India by various measures and have hired >Al Dev for it. He is planning to sabotage this list hence. Lets not give >in to it. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Tue Jun 1 22:12:4 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:42:04 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: RE: problems with linux... On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, munir keshwani wrote: > Well I don't know how loadlin.exe work and what the parameters and other things that has to be done please let me know Simple, 1) Copy ur kernel image (/vmlinuz) from ur linux partation to dos partation. mkdir /dos/linux cp /vmlinuz /dos/linux (ur dos partation is mounted on /dos) Also copy loadlin.exe to c:\linux Then c:\linux\> loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/hda? Where hda? is ur root partation. This should work - -Chetan S ______________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From grbhat@unigoa.ernet.in Tue Jun 1 22:13:32 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:43:32 +0530 (IST) From: Gurunandan R Bhat Subject: Re: VHDL Software on LINUX On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Kodali Raghu wrote: > I recently heard that a VHDL software exists for linux which goes by the > name alliance. If somebody can help me in getting the software (ftp or other > downloadable sites) i will be very thankfull. Alliance is avilable at ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/applications/circuits A Free VHDL compiler and Chipmunnk simulator is avaialble at: http://www.gnu.org/Software/Software.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 22:8:25 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:38:25 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: network configuration > When started linux for the first time, it didn't responded after > starting sendmail daemon. Is it because of some wrong config. Add the name and IP address of your machine to /etc/hosts Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From shobhan@seeyes.co.in Tue Jun 1 22:24:52 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:54:52 +0530 (IST) From: Ayyadevara Shobhan Kumar Subject: Re: samba from windows -Reply make little changes in /etc/smb.conf file OK. specify what is ur workgoup in the workgroup option, and specify u r server name at the servername option. u can get u r linux box in network neighbourhood in windows On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, UDAY DESHPANDE wrote: > > > >>> Sunil Sarat 05/31/99 01:57pm >>> > Hi, > > I've configured samba for a specific workgroup. Using smbclient, I am able > to > access win shares from my linux box. But how do I proceed to access my > linux > files from a win9x machine. I can't see my linux box in win9x network > neighbourhood. Can some one guide me please. > > Thanks in advance > > Sunil Sarat > > > ud-vsh@vashi.ltindia.com > > Yes Sunil I am also facing same problem but with one try I could able to > access Linux m/c from 95. Login to your 95 machine as root > (username:root) & password same as your linux root password. Now find > the PC from 95 m/c. & you can able to see linux shares. But further to this I > want to know how to establish similar connection betn. NT & Linux. > > Bye. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From anshul@linuxmail.org Tue Jun 1 21:16:5 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:16:05 +0800 From: "Anshul Gupta" Subject: network configuration Hi all, I have installed Lan Card. I have given the following in the options, IP :- 192.156.141.100 Host :- linux Domain :- cyberworld.com gateway :- 192.156.141.100 primary name server :- 202.54.1.30 secondary name server :- 202.54.1.18 tertiary name server :- Actually i wanted that address 192.156.141.100 should become IP of my host machine. When started linux for the first time, it didn't responded after starting sendmail daemon. Is it because of some wrong config. waiting for reply, - -anshul __________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.linuxmail.org Powered by OutBlaze - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 22:30:12 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:00:12 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: India is always - Linux > Rather I would say INDIAN HACKER's UNITE AND FLOOD ( wud hv like to > say ...uck here) PAK NET..... I resent this attitude on this list. India's problems with Pakistan are because of politicians, not because of the Pakistani or Indian people. And as we all know - politicians are *not* people. Could everyone please recognise the difference and stop behaving like complete and utter jerks? You are reacting *exactly* the way Al Dev and other war mongers want you to! If I remember right, we have several Pakistani users on this list, and if I recall correctly, they have been very helpful and curteous - unlike some (pseudo) Indians on this list. India or Pakistan does not imply a physical land-mass - they imply real, living, breathing people. A line on a map does not make a country - its people do. God made the world, mankind lives on it, politicians drew the lines on it. Get off this trip, or get off this list. Linux knows no boundaries - least of all the cheap, imaginary, opportunistic and ridiculous *national* boundaries that country-bashing posts exploit. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From dhinakaran@innomedia.soft.net Tue Jun 1 23:10:51 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:40:51 +0530 From: Rajiv Dhinakaran Subject: Re: ***WARNING*** (Overclocking) >K6-2 266 has been over clocked here to 300...Who says U can't over clock? Dear Ragoo, prob. u missed the line that says all pre 300MHz K6 processors (incl. K6/2) can be safely overclocked. My own K6-266 is overclocked at 300. Regarding ur question Mukund, companies like AMD try to give their best for your money. So if a processor is capable of running at a higher speed than it is designed for then they sell it overclocked. Hence it is not possible to further overclock these processor. On the other hand companies like Intel find it to be a lot cheaper to make all their processors on the same assembly line and then mark them according to the budget of the customer. This means that all The Celerons & P-II's that you can buy today are identical inside, irrespective of the marked speed. This means that Intel gets a fat profit from the ignorant customer who pays more for the same processor marked at a higher speed. As of now, Intel prevents overclocking of processors by *locking* their Clock multipliers. Such processors can only be overclocked by hiking the Bus Clock. For example my P-II 300 (A 450 in reality) uses a Bus clock of 66MHz, and a Multiplier of 4.5. (66*4.5=300) It was overclocked by hiking the Bus clock to 100MHz. (100*4.5=450) If you are looking for a good motherboard to use for owerclocking I would recommend the Award BIOS based ZX motherboards freely available in India. This board costs Rs3600 or so and can handle Celeron/P-II/P-III upto 733 MHz (Bus Clock upto 133MHz). The bus clock can be set using the BIOS Setup utility. For those who wonder about the stability of the system, I can assure you that Linux works comfortably even when overclocked. The only points to be careful of is: 1. Make sure your RAM can handle speeds above 100MHz if your bus clock is 100MHz or above. 2. As the PCI/AGP clock speed depends on the Bus Clock. Make sure Your Hard Disk (UDMA)/ Video card/ SCSI can handle it. Be very very careful overclocking systems with SCSI cards installed. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #21 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From babs_k@india.com Tue Jun 1 23:14:22 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:14:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Babu K Subject: Re.samba from windows -Reply Hi, U need not necessarily use root as the user in windows machine. u can create any user in the win95 machine with the same name and passwd existing in linux box. BTW any expertise on tkwine (downloading, installing and using) ? >>> Sunil Sarat 05/31/99 01:57pm >>> Hi, I've configured samba for a specific workgroup. Using smbclient, I am able to access win shares from my linux box. But how do I proceed to access my linux files from a win9x machine. I can't see my linux box in win9x network neighbourhood. Can some one guide me please. Thanks in advance Sunil Sarat ud-vsh@vashi.ltindia.com Yes Sunil I am also facing same problem but with one try I could able to access Linux m/c from 95. Login to your 95 machine as root (username:root) & password same as your linux root password. Now find the PC from 95 m/c. & you can able to see linux shares. But further to this I want to know how to establish similar connection betn. NT & Linux. Bye. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From indradg@cal.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 1:57:3 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:27:03 +0530 From: "Indranil Das Gupta" Subject: Re: India is always - Linux Absolutely agree with Atul.....Linux has no place for people with small minds and their meanness. To Sudhakar : Thaths, I know that this list isn't moderated, but if some people like these continue to carry on in this manner that goes completely against the global perspective/philosophy of Linux with repeated violation/subvertion of the purpose of this list, should they be tolerated and allowed to remain on the list? - --Indra. - ---------- > From: Atul Chitnis > To: linux-india@aunet.org > Subject: Re: India is always - Linux > Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 11:00 AM > > > Rather I would say INDIAN HACKER's UNITE AND FLOOD ( wud hv like to > > say ...uck here) PAK NET..... > > I resent this attitude on this list. India's problems with Pakistan are > because of politicians, not because of the Pakistani or Indian people. And > as we all know - politicians are *not* people. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From ghins@accord-soft.com Tue Jun 1 22:47:37 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:17:37 +0530 From: Ghins Mathai Subject: "du" displays some confusing output On my m/c I have windows and Linux partitions. In Windoze, I checked the properties of a folder C:\aaaa\bbbb\. It reported disk space usage to be around 10 MB. However when I deleted the same I got 70 MB free. To get things confirmed, I re-created the folder (with all its contents) ,booted Linux and used du. The output I got is as below: % du -b /dosc/aaaa/bbbb 10399580 /dosc/aaaa/bbbb % du -k /dosc/aaaa/bbbb 70688 /dosc/aaaa/bbbb % du -h /dosc/aaaa/bbbb 9.9M /dosc/aaaa/bbbb Could anyone please explain whats going on ??? - -- Regards Ghins - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prasadb@hd2.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 6:21:25 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 18:51:25 +0530 From: prasad Subject: System is halted Small question - why does the "System is halted" message get displayed twice (I am using RH 5.x) , when I do a 'shutdown -h now'? - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From ashisha@rsi.ramco.com Tue Jun 1 23:34:46 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:04:46 +0530 From: Ashish Agarwal Subject: Problem with ATI card Hi, I have a few problems in my installation of Linux, and I hope you all can help me. I have a AMD K-6 266 with a 4.3 GB HDD and put a partition for Linux; the other partition having 98. I Installed from the PCQUEST Red hat 5.2 version. Linux was installed as a workstation. Now there are a couple of problems, for some reason, there are no HOWTO's there along with the instal on my machine, it was my understanding that HOWTO's, Apache and a couple of other services such as PHP were also installed; I don't have any of these. Could there be some problem with the instal or do I have to do a custom instal ? Secondly, I am having a lot of problem installing XFree86. I have a ATI Mach64GT 4 MB card and a ViewSonic monitor. The system after doing the auto-probe is not able to detect the video ram, and whatever configuration, I try, the xserver is not getting loaded properly. the mouse is there, but the display is blurred with multiple occurences of the toolbar. I tried the Linux documentation, ATI's web-site and various other online resources, but no dice; so if anybody could give me some help, I would be very grateful. I am in Chennai. Regards, Ashish ashisha@rsi.ramco.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From helpindore@vsnl.com Tue Jun 1 23:50:19 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:20:19 +0530 From: "VaibhaV Sharma" Subject: Re: Cache and linux One observation from me (apart from the cache problemo). We use Linux as our gateway to the net on a dialup connection. So have to put up Xwindows and shut it down a number of times in the day without shutting down the system. The system is up the whole day, sometimes for more than 5 days without shutting down. But when the system is shut down, the shutdown messages are full of things like shutting down xyz.... No such pid shutting down abc ... no such pid I have no idea why this happens but I don have any problem with the setup. VaibhaV Sharma webmaster@mgmmc.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Arun Sharma To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Cache and linux >On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 09:48:34AM +0530, GAUTAM VSNL wrote: >> i have also observed the same thing.in fact if i check virtual memory >> startx windows and shut it down the xwindows does not free all the >> memory.i had 10ms used before starting x after starting x i had 60ms used >> and after shutting it down 35ms used.where did the 25ms go? > >Common misconception. Just because you shut X down doesn't mean that >all the memory used by X will be free'd. The kernel keeps a copy of >it, just so that if you start X again, it doesn't have to go to the >disk. > >Kernel will start free'ing memory, only when some other program wants >memory and there isn't any. > > -Arun > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 23:45:55 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:15:55 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: "du" displays some confusing output On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Ghins Mathai wrote: > On my m/c I have windows and Linux partitions. In Windoze, I checked > the properties of a folder > C:\aaaa\bbbb\. It reported disk space usage to be around 10 MB. However > when I deleted the same I got 70 MB free. The magic of the FAT system - if you have several thousand files, and a FAT16 file system on a large hard disk, be aware that even a 1 byte file will occupy 32K on the hard disk thanks to the efficient "cluster" system Microsoft came up with. (Please note that I have used every ounce of artistic license when using the word "efficient" above). If you run Windows 98, use the drive convertor system tool to turn the partition into FAT32 with 4K cluster size. Or, better yet.....(I guess I shouldn't carry coals to newcastle).... ;-) Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Tue Jun 1 23:48:9 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:18:09 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: sendmail,pop3,imap > When i telnet this machine from any other machine it takes > around 2-3 mins to show login prompt and immediately after showing > login screen before i could type user name and passward it says > connection to host lost. Add all your other nodes to /etc/hosts - the Linux machine is trying to resolve your host names, but since you don't have a DNS, it can't. > I want to start Sendmail (SMTP) and recieve mails using POP3 and > IMAP4. how can i start these services?(i dont want to send mails to > external world. only on lan) Just point your SMTP/POP3 settings in your mail program on the nodes to the Linux box. It would also help you would create user accounts on the box. ;-) Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From indradg@cal.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 2:24:19 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:54:19 +0530 From: "Indranil Das Gupta" Subject: OT: ANNOUNCE -- ILUG-Cal meeting on 6th June, Sunday Hi, ILUG-Cal (Calcutta LUG) is going to hold its next meeting on 6th June (Sunday) between 5 - 7 PM at St. Xaviers College. For further details please contact me at : E-Mail : indradg@cal.vsnl.net.in Phone : 442-4008 Regards, Indranil Das Gupta. Indian Linux User Group -- CALCUTTA Chapter - --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mailing List : ilug-cal@egroups.com Web-Site : http://www.ilug-cal.org/ (under construction) Web Page : http://members.tripod.com/ilugcal/ (temporary site) - --------------------------------------------------------------------- GNU/Linux -- MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sudheer@easi.soft.net Wed Jun 2 0:15:34 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:45:34 +0530 (IST) From: Subject: Re: India is always - Linux Absolutely. there is no necessity of carrying out such debates on this list which someone has advertently induced . sudheer On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Atul Chitnis wrote: > > I resent this attitude on this list. India's problems with Pakistan are > because of politicians, not because of the Pakistani or Indian people. And > as we all know - politicians are *not* people. > > Could everyone please recognise the difference and stop behaving like > complete and utter jerks? You are reacting *exactly* the way Al Dev and > other war mongers want you to! > > If I remember right, we have several Pakistani users on this list, and if > I recall correctly, they have been very helpful and curteous - unlike some > (pseudo) Indians on this list. > > India or Pakistan does not imply a physical land-mass - they imply real, > living, breathing people. A line on a map does not make a country - its > people do. God made the world, mankind lives on it, politicians drew the > lines on it. > > Get off this trip, or get off this list. Linux knows no boundaries - least > of all the cheap, imaginary, opportunistic and ridiculous *national* > boundaries that country-bashing posts exploit. > > Atul > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sudhir@netshooter.com Wed Jun 2 0:21:22 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:21:22 +0000 From: Sudhir Gandotra Subject: Re: PostgreSQL + PHP Host? SANIsoft wrote: > > Hello > > Does any one know of an Indian web hosting company giving PostgreSQL + > PHP. PHP should not be running as CGI > Yes, we do this. - -- Peace, Force & Joy! =========================================================== Sudhir Gandotra - "mailto:sudhir@netshooter.com" COMMUNICATORS : Phone:91-11-5535770 / 5613992 Fax : 5613991 ICQ : 16733832 Internet : http://www.netshooter.com =========================================================== !!! Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You !!! "India can be different, if We are not Indifferent" Humanist Movement : http://humanistmovement.org =========================================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Wed Jun 2 0:30:14 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:00:14 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: SiS 6215 cards not all that bad Hye though i totally agree with atul , that most of us are fooled by our assemblers into buying this card , but one must also remember that it is extremely good value for money (Rs. 200) . As far as configuring this card is concerned i myself have configured 8 of theese cards and have been successful with all of them , the only hassle being wht works for one does not for the other. To configure theese cards u need to keep trying with all possible changes to the device section of your XF86config file . I guess since all cards on this chipset are not assembled on the same circuit it is possible to have various configurations And yes I also hope Atuls's wishes regarding any assembler who forces the card down somebodys throat without telling him it's shortcomings are fulfilled. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From dhinakaran@innomedia.soft.net Wed Jun 2 1:23:30 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:53:30 +0530 From: Rajiv Dhinakaran Subject: Modem Problem. Hi All, I am trying to do an IVR (Voice Response) system in linux. I need help on some Modem Commands. I would like the modem to dial out after receiving a call without disconnecting the call. I find that ATDT works only if the modem initiates the call. Is there any way of doing a Hook Flash (ATDT!) after receiving a call? Can someone please help me. Thanks in advance. - Rajiv - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Wed Jun 2 1:38:9 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:08:09 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: IBM releases ServeRAID driver as GPL IBM today released a driver for it's ServeRAID family of high-performance RAID controllers as GPL - a first among major systems vendors. The ServeRAID device driver has been developed (and tested) under RedHat Linux 6.0 (Kernel 2.2.5 and 2.2.9). This driver is being released as BETA software under the terms of the GNU Public License. The ServeRAID for Linux device driver works with the following controllers: ServeRAID I ServeRAID II ServeRAID 3H ServeRAID 3L ServeRAID on the Planer (IBM PC Server 330) ServeRAID on the Planer (Netfinity 5500) The driver can be found at http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/netfinity/serveraid_beta.html (From Linux Today) Atul - ---------------------------------------------------- Atul Chitnis | achitnis@cbconsulting.com C&B Consulting | http://www.cbconsulting.com Bangalore, India | +91(80)3440397 Fax +91(80)3341137 - ---------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sanjay_chigurupati@flashmail.com Wed Jun 2 1:56:24 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:26:24 +0530 From: sanjay chaudary Subject: Reg Info abt Doom and Using Linux Book Hi , I bought Special Edition "Using Linux " 3rd Edition by Prentice Hall India . I cant seem to find the Doom game in Slackware CD , even though it is listed in the book . The slakware/y2 disk directory is missing . Is this the general case or is it some problem with my CD ? Even the readme program is not working on the Redhat CD. Could somebody please answer this question , so that I May replace the CD if there is a problem . Thanks Sanjay P.S : Dr.Shahrukh , I think you purchased this same book . Could you please help me out? - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Wed Jun 2 2:9:56 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:39:56 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: shutdown messages (was Re: Cache and linux ) this is becoz of kerneld (correct me if i am wrong). It unloads all modules not being used after some period of time. So for example if you havent printed for a long time, lpd is out !!! What bugs me is how does it reload these things back when i DO print ? Becoz lpd is not a part of the kernel. ciao, amit >>> "VaibhaV Sharma" 06/02/99 12:20pm >>> But when the system is shut down, the shutdown messages are full of things like shutting down xyz.... No such pid shutting down abc ... no such pid I have no idea why this happens but I don have any problem with the setup. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From nirmalkej@usa.net Wed Jun 2 3:2:17 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:02:17 +0500 From: Nirmal Kejriwal Subject: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Hello, I am looking for Linux/Unix system admins and/or people with Linux experience. To be based in Bombay, Hyderabd, and Madras. Is there a list or site where I could look for them? TIA Nirmal - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sksharma@inflibnet.ernet.in Wed Jun 2 2:36:30 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:06:30 +0530 From: sksharma Subject: How can i get ISO certifecate for my software. Hi every body. We have developed Library management software for Indian Universities. Now we want to get ISO certificate for this software . can Any body suggest me the process. sk sharma - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Wed Jun 2 3:45:52 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:15:52 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: shutdown messages (was Re: Cache and linux ) On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, AMIT KUCHERIA wrote: > this is becoz of kerneld (correct me if i am wrong). > It unloads all modules not being used after some period of time. Nope this is a typical case where, ppl get messed up with runlevel scripts. Like when you shutdown, many deamons, which were started need to be shutdown(stoped), Now if you not started a deamon say lpd in this case, and try to stop at the shutdown time this is the message you get. You can run X->controlpanel->runlevel editor to make things better. - -Chetan S - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prasadb@hd2.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 2:20:31 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:50:31 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: significance of bits Arun Sharma wrote: > But Goankar is right in that the general purpose registers on a 32 bit > microprocessor will still be 32 bit (because they're also used for > addressing virtual memory). But the data bus doesn't have to > be 32 bit. Well , the 8088 was a 16 bit CPU. Though the external data bus may be smaller , internally , it is a 16 bit CPU. The internal data bus width should determine the 'bitness'. Reasons like lack of suitable/inexpensive memory chips/peripherals will affect external data bus width design. - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prasadb@hd2.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 2:9:21 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:39:21 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Regarding Yamaha cards , my experience is similar to Atuls. One of the cards (brand name Mercury , I think) was so simple to config under Linux (PCQ RH 5.2) that I recommended this card to a friend. And could never get that card to work! I also have an ESS1869 based card which worked perfectly with RH 5.0 when I chose Soundblaster in sndconfig. In RH 5.2 , it detected the card , but I could never get it going using sndconfig. Fortunately , I had a saved copy of the old conf.modules and it continues to work as a Soundblaster. On the other hand , creative Soundblaster 16 was the easiest card I ever used , under RH 5.0 as well as 5.2. Have had no probs so far with SiS 6326 (AGP) and Trident 9750/9850 on RH5.2 (though XConfigurator does not list these cards, it can be made to work using unlisted card) and I have tried at least two cards of each chipset , bought at different times. I also agree that the whole market seems to have the same card at a particular time (some huge consignment, I guess). And you only get the dumbest, cheapest hardware (at most GIDs). They haven't heard of , or pretend not to have heard of , any card other than the one they currently have. They only talk in generic terms - sound card , 4 MB AGP card etc. A few may know the chipset, but will push whatever they have very hard , without knowing anything about it! I think there is definitely a market for knowledgeable dealers. - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prasadb@hd2.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 2:32:42 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:02:42 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: India is always > Linux "Lakshmi Anand K." wrote: > Anyhow, the binary produced @ US is garbage/shit. And you yourself said > that US will be using Linux 100% in 5 years. So, your garbage/shit is > not even used by you garbage/shits. This whole thread is irrelavant and immaterial and no way concerned to this list. No need to be jingoistic about things , esp on this list. The best thing is to ignore such posts and not subject us all to more immature trash. I hope you all agree. If you disagree with the posters views, you are free to send that person private mail (same applies to me and this post). It is your personal choice to use any OS. No need to bash Linux due to some crap posted purely to incite people and derive some sadistic pleasure. Linux is not a replacement for M$ OSes , nor is it a product of any country. - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Wed Jun 2 4:1:38 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:31:38 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: sendmail,pop3,imap On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Tushar Kulkarni wrote: > Hi > I have just now installed new test linux server. i want to use > it as mail server. I don't have any DNS server. This machine is on LAN. > When i telnet this machine from any other machine it takes > around 2-3 mins to show login prompt and immediately after showing login Add the host name and IP addr of all other hosts in /etc/hosts file on ur linux machine. This should solve the problem. - -Chetan S - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From manasg@inf.com Wed Jun 2 5:5:33 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:35:33 +0530 (IST) From: manas garg Subject: Glibc Libraries Will somebody please explain the concept of Glibc Libraries. Why have all the distributions implemented or are in the process of implementing them. Thanks - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From helpindore@vsnl.com Wed Jun 2 5:12:8 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:42:08 +0530 From: "VaibhaV Sharma" Subject: Fw: [indore] Fw: When Software Things Were Rotten This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BEAD1F.3C6CB060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Between all those hard discussions and techy questions, I think everyone = on the list can digest a bit of humour Please visit the following link... http://www.opensource.org/halloween4.html=20 VaibhaV Sharma webmaster@mgmmc.edu - ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BEAD1F.3C6CB060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When Software Things Were = Rotten
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BEAD1F.3C6CB060-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com Wed Jun 2 5:13:18 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 17:43:18 +0530 From: Vinay Avasthi Subject: Re: sendmail,pop3,imap This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------F05655157CB877162F51BDCF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tushar Kulkarni wrote: > > Hi > > > When i telnet this machine from any other machine it takes > > around 2-3 mins to show login prompt and immediately after showing > > login screen before i could type user name and passward it says > > connection to host lost. > > Add all your other nodes to /etc/hosts - the Linux machine is trying to > resolve your host names, but since you don't have a DNS, it can't. > > Tushar : I have around 200+ comps, am i suppose to add all these comps to /etc/hosts > we have only Netbios names, but most of the time we use IP only. It you have around 200 machines then I would suggest that you start running a DNS server. That will be probably easier to maintain solution. > > > I want to start Sendmail (SMTP) and recieve mails using POP3 and > > IMAP4. how can i start these services?(i dont want to send mails to > > external world. only on lan) > > Just point your SMTP/POP3 settings in your mail program on the nodes to > the Linux box. > > It would also help you would create user accounts on the box. ;-) > > Tushar : Could u pl clarify/elaborate this point in detail > > Thanx > > Tushar > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Name: unnamed1 > unnamed1 Type: application/ms-tnef > Encoding: BASE64 - --------------F05655157CB877162F51BDCF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Vinay_Avasthi-A12733.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Vinay Avasthi Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Vinay_Avasthi-A12733.vcf" begin:vcard n:Avasthi;Vinay tel;fax:+91-80-5598660 tel;work:+91-80-5598615 Extn. 4027 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://members.tripod.com/Vinay_Avasthi org:Motorola India Electronics Ltd.;Network Management Operations adr:;;The Senate, 33A, Ulsoor Road,;Bangalore;Karnataka;560042;India version:2.1 email;internet:Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com title:Staff Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Vinay Avasthi end:vcard - --------------F05655157CB877162F51BDCF-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #22 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From vsashok@tifr.res.in Wed Jun 2 5:24:25 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:54:25 +0530 (IST) From: V S Ashoka Subject: Re: shutdown messages (was Re: Cache and linux ) > >>> "VaibhaV Sharma" 06/02/99 12:20pm >>> > But when the system is shut down, the shutdown messages are full of > things > like > > shutting down xyz.... No such pid > shutting down abc ... no such pid > Does it really hurt? Ashok - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From vsashok@tifr.res.in Wed Jun 2 5:28:17 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:58:17 +0530 (IST) From: V S Ashoka Subject: Re: How can i get ISO certifecate for my software. > Hi every body. > We have developed Library management software for Indian Universities. Now we For Linux? I am not sure, but NaSCom can help in getting ISO? Somehow (correct me if I am wrong) I thought inflibnet was a BIG project under UGC and s/w you people develop are easily certified. How different is it from the existing `libsys' and `opac' that I found used in most of the Institutes (and Univ.s) in India? Ashok - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From nirmalkej@usa.net Wed Jun 2 7:18:38 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:18:38 +0500 From: Nirmal Kejriwal Subject: Sys Admin Wanted Hello, I am looking for Linux/Unix system admins and/or people with Linux experience. To be based in Bombay, Hyderabd, and Madras. Is there a list or site where I could look for them? TIA Nirmal - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sachin@cdacb.ernet.in Wed Jun 2 7:3:37 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:33:37 +0530 (IST) From: Sachin Garg Subject: Re: interesting statistics On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, RADHAKRISHNAN C V wrote: > just for fun, i scanned thru the postings to the linux-india list just to > see the mail agents members are using. out of 52 postings, 29 orginated > from Windows mailers, 2 from Sun, one from Novell and 20 from Linux. The header that I see for your mail is: > From cvr@md2.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 19:31:01 1999 > Received: from www (aunet.org [216.103.113.202]) > by cdacb.ernet.in (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04343; > Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:58:03 -0500 (GMT) > Received: from majordom by www with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) > id 10omoR-0001fL-00; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 04:34:31 -0700 > Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20] > by www with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) > id 10omoO-0001fE-00; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 04:34:29 -0700 > Received: from localhost (cvr@localhost) > by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15643; > Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:09:05 +0530 (IST) > Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:09:05 +0530 (IST) > From: RADHAKRISHNAN C V > To: linux-india@aunet.org > cc: anil@river-valley.com > Subject: interesting statistics > In-Reply-To: > Message-ID: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: linux-india@aunet.org > X-Url: http://www.linux-india.org > Sender: Majordomo > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > X-UIDL: a86839b084f09b8031db83ed828086fc Now where do you get the mailer here? BTW, message written 100% using Pine under Linux! sachin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sachin Garg, Member Technical Staff Centre for Development of Advanced Computing,BANGALORE,INDIA Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 Fax: +91-80-5584893 http://sangam.cjb.net - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From sachin@cdacb.ernet.in Wed Jun 2 7:9:28 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:39:28 +0530 (IST) From: Sachin Garg Subject: Re: Linux compatibility ... On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > Karan Girotra proclaimed: > > How can one determine if the unix version of any software will run on > > a linux machine?? > > Doesn't linux support older unix type of binaries ??? > > so shouldn't all unix software run easily on linux ??? > > Binaries will not run across various unices. What about IBCS? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sachin Garg, Member Technical Staff Centre for Development of Advanced Computing,BANGALORE,INDIA Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 Fax: +91-80-5584893 http://sangam.cjb.net - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lewis@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 7:50:57 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:20:57 +0530 From: "Craig Lewis" Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? - -----Original Message----- From: prasad Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 5:39 PM >Have had no probs so far with SiS 6326 (AGP) and Trident 9750/9850 >on RH5.2 (though XConfigurator does not list these cards, it can >be made to work using unlisted card) and I have tried at least >two cards of each chipset , bought at different times. I have a Trident PCI 9680 and have also installed Linux on a system having a Trident 9750 AGP card. On both the systems, I was able to run X at all resolutions except at 640x480 (32-bit). 640x480 (8-bit &16-bit) and 800x600 (8-bit, 16-bit and 32-bit) work perfectly. Do you have the same problem? If not, could you send me your XF86Config file. Regards, Craig - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From rfowkar@goa1.dot.net.in Wed Jun 2 8:20:30 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:20:30 +0500 From: Rajesh Subject: Re: Re: VideoCD Player for Linux Hi Kaushik, I searched for Video CD player in Yahoo and I got this site (www.mpegtv.com). I have downloaded MTV player from that site. Than I received your mail. Any way thanks. The player contains mtv(graphical front end) and mtvp (actual player). If I run graphical front end the file plays for about 1-2 minutes and than the message to register comes on the screen. Sound becomes mute. But if i directly play the file using the player (mtvp) the file is played fully. But in both the cases the playback is in window. In graphical mode Full Screen option splits the screen into two and the player gets hanged. While using the actual player I am unable to do Full Screen Playback since there is no command line option for full screen playback. If you have used the same player and if you are able to run it in full screen mode than please let me know. My video card is SiS6215. X server running KDE. Thanks Rajesh At 01-Jun-99 8:52:00 AM, you wrote: >>As far as Video CD files are concerned I will visit the site www.mpeg.com. >> >Yesterday I visited http://www.mpegtv.com/download.html . >This site offers mtv (mpegTV Player 1.0) which can play mpeg as >well as VCD tracks. Also they offer mp3 player, utilities, mpeg video/audio >SDK for Linux. >Kousik > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@aunet.org Wed Jun 2 8:6:7 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:06:07 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Problem enabling dumb-terminals This message was sent to me by margadarsi computers The author's intention was to be send it to the mailing list. Thaths On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 05:06:51PM +0530, did margadarsi computers write: > Sir, > > Recently, I load Red-hat linux kernel version 2.0.6. I put my > Splecilix (8 port card). And I find out that , it was enable when the > time of booting. But, I can't able to enable terminal. Please send > terminal enable process. > > Thank you sir, > > Awaiting for your reply. > > > Rgds > T Prasad > Email: tprsd1@hotmail.com, tprsd1@yahoo.com > Voice: 040-3815174. > > - -- "If there were any justice, my face would be on a bunch of crappy merchandise" -- Homer J. Simpson - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Wed Jun 2 8:11:30 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:11:30 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Glibc Libraries On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 05:35:33PM +0530, manas garg wrote: > > Will somebody please explain the concept of Glibc Libraries. > Why have all the distributions implemented or are in the process of > implementing them. > > Thanks http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/faq-index.html#3 -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From mmohan@lw1.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 8:25:48 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:55:48 +0530 From: "Mayank Mohan" Subject: sending mail thru web page This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BEAD3A.4ABC10A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi all how can i automate the process of sending an automatic mail message thru = my web site? the mail is required 2 b generated on a certain condition being true. so = when a page is launched on the browser, it will check for the condition = & send a mail 2 a certain address with a certain message automatically. how can this b programmed??? thanx in advance mayank - ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01BEAD3A.4ABC10A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi all
 
how can i automate the process of = sending an=20 automatic mail message thru my web site?
the mail is required 2 b generated = on a certain=20 condition being true. so when a page is launched on the browser, it will = check=20 for the condition & send a mail 2 a certain address with a certain = message=20 automatically.
how can this b = programmed???
thanx in advance
mayank
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Ashok - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From vsashok@tifr.res.in Wed Jun 2 8:58:33 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:28:33 +0530 (IST) From: V S Ashoka Subject: Re: Re: VideoCD Player for Linux > But if i directly play the file using the player (mtvp) the file is played fully. But > in both the cases the playback is in window. In graphical mode Full Screen option The frond-end is a demo- You gotto register for it. The mtvp is a true free-s/w. The documentation says it speicfically! That is why front end is not fullfledged. Ashok - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From tusar@agfe.iitkgp.ernet.in Wed Jun 2 9:7:7 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:37:07 +0530 (IST) From: Tusarkanti Nayak Subject: Re: sending mail thru web page You can do this with PERL/CGI scripts.. tusar On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Mayank Mohan wrote: > hi all > > how can i automate the process of sending an automatic mail message thru my web site? > the mail is required 2 b generated on a certain condition being true. so when a page is launched on the browser, it will check for the condition & send a mail 2 a certain address with a certain message automatically. > how can this b programmed??? > thanx in advance > mayank > Tusarkanti Nayak Junior Project Officer Agril. & Food Eng. Dept. Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur - 721 302, INDIA Ph - +91-3222-55221 Extn - 4563 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Wed Jun 2 9:20:52 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:20:52 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES linux penguin proclaimed: > India must stop buying binaries from "enemy" nations like Pakistan, > etc....etc.. India must also STOP buying computer chips whose > source-code is NOT available to them!! I hereby declare this thread dead. PLEASE do not waste more bandwidth by responding to this post. If you have an issue with the post, respond directly to the author. This post and the responses to it (including my responses) have nothing to do with Linux or India. Thaths (Your Friendly Neighborhood Benevolent Dictator) - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prakash@FreeOS.com Tue Jun 1 20:19:0 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 08:49:00 +0530 From: Prakash Advani Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Has anyone had any success in running a Sound Blaster Live on Red Hat 6.0? Creative has drivers on its website but that didn't work. Regards Prakash prasad wrote: > > Regarding Yamaha cards , my experience is similar to Atuls. > One of the cards (brand name Mercury , I think) was so > simple to config under Linux (PCQ RH 5.2) that I recommended > this card to a friend. And could never get that card to work! > > I also have an ESS1869 based card which worked perfectly with > RH 5.0 when I chose Soundblaster in sndconfig. In RH 5.2 , it > detected the card , but I could never get it going using > sndconfig. Fortunately , I had a saved copy of the old > conf.modules and it continues to work as a Soundblaster. > On the other hand , creative Soundblaster 16 was the > easiest card I ever used , under RH 5.0 as well as 5.2. > > Have had no probs so far with SiS 6326 (AGP) and Trident 9750/9850 > on RH5.2 (though XConfigurator does not list these cards, it can > be made to work using unlisted card) and I have tried at least > two cards of each chipset , bought at different times. > > I also agree that the whole market seems to have the same card > at a particular time (some huge consignment, I guess). And you > only get the dumbest, cheapest hardware (at most GIDs). They haven't > heard of , or pretend not to have heard of , any card other > than the one they currently have. They only talk in generic > terms - sound card , 4 MB AGP card etc. A few may know the chipset, > but will push whatever they have very hard , without > knowing anything about it! I think there is definitely a > market for knowledgeable dealers. > > - Prasad > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. - -- Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From rfowkar@goa1.dot.net.in Wed Jun 2 0:0:0 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:58:2 +0500 From: Rajesh Subject: Re: Re: RE: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Hi Atul, I think you are very furious. I am sorry if I have heart you. I have great respect for you and love your articles on PC QUEST and being an avid reader by subscribing to the magazine for the last 4 years. I just wanted to tell you that both these cards never gave me any problems in Windows 95 as well as Windows 98. They are running smoothly without any hicups. However you point regarding configuration in linux is correct. It took me a long time to configure both these cards under linux and the sound from the sound card is Ok but not great and I can run KDE in 800x600 resolution 16 bit , but in Windows 98 I get 1024x768 resolution 16 bit with the same card. So as you say support for both these cards under linux is poor. When I purchased the PC I was not knowing the consequences of having these cards but since I was happy with the way they function in Windows I never bothered about them. But now I am seriously thinking of upgrading both these cards since the future is Linux and I love linux and I have fallen in love with linux in the last 2 months. ( I installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 from PCQ March in April ). If you don't mind please suggest me the best option specially for Linux. Thanks Regards Rajesh At 01-Jun-99 9:40:00 PM, you wrote: >On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Rajesh wrote: > >> By the way you have given a detailed account of How SiS6215 and Yamaha >> Sound Card are bad. You further say that they do not work properly under windows. >> But I am completly against you view. > >You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, just as I am to mine. > >> I purchased my PC 1-1/2 years back. It is a Zenith one up PC - 166MHZ and it came >> with SiS6215 and Yamaha Sound Card. Till now under Windows I never faced any >> problems due to these two cards. >> >> I have installed Red Hat Linux 5.2 from March PCQ 2 months back on my new >> Seagate 6.4 GB HDD. With the help of all the friends at Linux-India Mailing list I have >> been able to successfully configure both the display and sound card and now everthing >> works smoothly. > >If you carefully *read* my note again, you will miraculously discover that >I actually addressed this issue. Both the SiS6215 and the cheaper Yamaha >cards come in an infinite variety of flavours, as I discovered after >*lots* of research. > >You will probably find it surprising to know that right here on my desk I >have a SiS6215 card that will *not*, under *any* circumstances, work with >Xfree86. And don't forget that I *do* know how to make XFree86 work with >such a card. The point is that that there are minute differences - >probably at chip level (in Taiwan and China they do not have so stringent >name-component rules as in the USA or Europe) that stop the card in its >tracks. > >Another prime example on my shelf is a Yamaha card (one of 7 pieces) that >not only does not work under Linux, but doesn't work properly under >Windows 98 even if the supplied drivers are installed - Wave sound keeps >dying, and the card goes ito loops quite often. Amazingly, the card *does* >work under Windows 95 (but not OSR 2!). > >> Before writing such things you should consider that there are may people who have got >> both these cards on their PC. And people like me have not purchased those cards separatly >> because they are Cheap. They have come along with the PC. > >Before making the move of dressing me down in public, I'd suggest that you >*read* what I had written. > >The point is that customers can (and should!) dictate what equipment they >get when they buy a machine. If they know up front that some particular >equipment is likely to cause them grief, then they can tell the vendor not >to supply that, but something that costs the same *but WORKS*. > >People spend a lot of money on computers. People also spend a lot of money >buying vegetables. But do they buy veggies eyes shut? Nope - they pick out >the bad stuff and refuse to accept it. So why is it that they buy computer >equipment without checking with anyone about what they are getting? > >My suggestion (which continues to stand) is to put up a list of known >troublemaker equipment so that buyers can specifically tell their vendors >that they do *not* want any of that equipment in their new machines. > >To prove my point about the SiS6215, I invite you to check around - which >display card has caused the most problems for people installing Linux - >anywhere in India? Ask PCQ, and in a few weeks from now, ask CHIP. Hell - >ask the RedHat/Debian/SuSE/Caldera/etc. people! Also feel free to ask what >sound cards they had the most problems with. > >What the heck - ask yourself! Did you manage to install the cards without >assistance easily and quickly? Are you happy with the display/sound you >get? Wouldn't you have been happier had they been autodetected like the >cheap G100/S3/Cirrus cards are? Where you get better resolution, higher >refresh rates and troublefree operation? How about wavetable sound from >your sound card? Did you get X11AMP running first shot without thinking >about it? Did 16-bit sound work for you out of the box? Or did you have to >ask for help? > >Come on Rajesh - I read this list as much as you do - we have all seen the >endless queries about non-configurable SiS6215 and Yamaha cards, so why >choose to pick on me when I suggest that we help people avoid that agony? > >Atul > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the >words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the >email. > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From rfowkar@goa1.dot.net.in Wed Jun 2 9:58:19 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:58:19 +0500 From: Rajesh Subject: Re: Re: Linux Startup file Hi Folks, Thanks to all of you who replied Rajesh - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Wed Jun 2 9:30:40 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 09:30:40 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: India is always - Linux Indranil Das Gupta proclaimed: > To Sudhakar : Thaths, I know that this list isn't moderated, but if some > people like these continue to carry on in this manner that goes completely > against the global perspective/philosophy of Linux with repeated > violation/subvertion of the purpose of this list, should they be tolerated > and allowed to remain on the list? I understand the concern. In practical terms, self restraint is probably the best way to approach the issue of posts that one disagrees with. I absolutely refuse to kick someone off this mailing list because of a few posts from them that seem to stir up emotions. We have to keep in mind that some of Al Dev's posts have been informative and helpful. Furthermore, in this day and age of numerous free email services it is practically impossible to keep someone persistent off this list even if I wanted to. Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Wed Jun 2 11:3:35 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:33:35 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Enterprise Linux Woah! Good article in Network Computing! Print it out and keep it as ready reference for the next time some PHB asks you "what's all the fuss about Linux?" ;-) http://www.networkcomputing.com/1011/1011f1.html Atul - ---------------------------------------------------- Atul Chitnis | achitnis@cbconsulting.com C&B Consulting | http://www.cbconsulting.com Bangalore, India | +91(80)3440397 Fax +91(80)3341137 - ---------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From binand@bombay.retortsoft.com Wed Jun 2 22:16:24 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:16:24 +051800 From: "Binand Raj S." Subject: Re: interesting statistics On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 07:33:37PM +0530, Sachin Garg wrote: > > The header that I see for your mail is: > > > In-Reply-To: > > Message-ID: Here they are - You posted using Pine 4.04 on Linux, Radhakrishnan posted using Pine 3.95 on Digital Unix. There is also a header X-Mailer: that you can check. My mailer, you will figure out, is Mutt 0.96.2i on Linux. Regards, Binand - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Wed Jun 2 11:44:14 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:44:14 -0400 (EDT) From: rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Subject: [none] Hi ... Two notes. 1) > Subject: interesting statistics > In-Reply-To: I have a Trident PCI 9680 and have also installed inux > Trident 9750 AGP card If u if run Xconfigarator on a system with Trident 9750 Card, it will select the S3 X server. However, for the AGP version of this card, u need to get the latest X_SVGA server, i think this is 3.3.3.1 I wouldn"t recommed this card if u also plan to run windows ... It's 3d performance is very low (nothing beats Windows afa games are concerned!! ;) ) Try the Zdnet site for a review on the s3 shipset which this card has. - - Rohit - --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Wed Jun 2 12:51:8 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 01:21:08 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: Re: India is always - Linux sorry for having wasted the list's bandwidth. (put it in your list's faq that a man called al dev will post such material and its to be ignored and anyone who replies for it "is behaving like complete and utter jerks".) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From nirmalkej@usa.net Wed Jun 2 14:7:39 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:07:39 +0500 From: Nirmal Kejriwal Subject: Sys Admin Wanted Hello, I am looking for Linux/Unix system admins and/or people with Linux experience. To be based in Bombay, Hyderabd, and Madras. Is there a list or site where I could look for them? TIA Nirmal - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From linux_india@yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 13:51:47 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: linux penguin Subject: Microsoft points its Big Guns on Linux! 1. M$ appoints 10 employees to counter threat of growing linux. These marketing experts may do negative campaign against using linux. M$ already dropped a bomb-shell by doing a demo of Web-server using NT and badly tuned/untuned linux. M$ twisted the results such that NT was little faster than linux. But in reality moderately tuned linux out performs NT. More bomb-shells may follow!! This is clear "WAR"/ "Aggresion"/"Mis-chief" on linux. M$ also hired expert programmers to put in stray code into linux - -kernel which will delay the release of Linux versions and also can cause some problems. Hackers now take refuge in "safe haven" in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China and Sri Lanka, Malaysia! Hackers are sitting on "opposition" benches and the ruling party is M$ - - It is real politics! 2. Hackers are very angry - they are defenseless and want to declare a war on M$. To counter heavy shelling from M$ you need a 10,000 strong "linux-army". You can build a very good linux-army in south-asian countries like India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri-Lanka, Malaysia, Japan because USA is completely under the control of M$ and is a difficult place for linux. The objective is to 'shield linux' against heavy bomb-shelling from M$. If M$ drops a bomb-shell than hackers will also drop a bomb-shell untill a cease-fire and a peace deal is struck. 3. M$ using marketing muscle power to run-over on linux. M$ has over 90% share on desktop. M$ already squashed IBM OS/2, Netscape Navigator, Novell Dr. DOS... M$ tries to be monopolistic in server OS and desktop OS. 4. It was Tom and Jerry Show - intense fighting and battle between M$ and Netscape took place in USA. Netscape was made almost bankrupt and ran and took shelter under AOL. M$ cut-off the revenue inflow to Netscape by giving away free Internet Explorer and by pre-installing IE and bundling with its OS. 5. A group of linux-users go to M$ to get refund for Win95 which they do not use. Linux-users complained 'It is very difficult to buy a PC without M$ pre-installed on it". But about 300 linux-users returned empty-handed as M$ says "You should get refund from your PC OEM". But OEM's say they had already paid money to M$ and so get it from M$. It is running from pillar to post (catch 22 situation). 6. Hackers want M$ to "grow-up", "be-sensible" and to work on linux - contribute it's expertise and even market linux May be release "MS Linux" distribution just as IBM is going to release "IBM linux" distribution very soon. Healthy competition is good for industry. 7. M$ is hiding the source-code of Windows95/NT and is keeping it as a "TOP SECRET"!! M$ zealously gaurds the source code. It is impossible for users of Windows95/NT take a look at the source code of kernel. Users would sometime like to see the kernel code to add new-feature etc... It is impossible for the users to know how the system is working if source code is NOT available to them! 8. M$ wants to contol 95% of OS share come whatever may and does not want to compete with others!! 9. Bottomline is - $$$$$$$s for M$. Experts say M$ will lose money if LINUX user base increases. But problem is - hackers are not interested in $$$$$s they just want to write code and for academic interest or even may be for hobby. But see, when someone is losing and somebody else is gaining!! There is a balance sheet in this game!! Smarter person will gain and less smart person will lose money in the game. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From swaps@netscape.net Wed Jun 2 15:40:10 1999 Date: 2 Jun 99 17:40:10 CDT From: SWAPS Subject: Re: [Business in the open? (GPL Vs. ...)] > The only caveat being: Linus won't accept code whose sole purpose is to= > enable a binary only module. As long as you are using standard > system calls and interfaces, you are fine. > = > To answer the original question: the company doesn't have to reveal the= > sources under GPL, as long as they don't publish the binaries. If you > publish the binaries, you must publish source. > = I agree with you but the original question was talking about OSS in gener= al and not the OS (Linux) in particular. I was giving an example similar to XFree86 which is a userland program which has a much liberal license and = has a module interface to deal with XInput. A similar program can be built as a= n ERP solution. - -swaps ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From swaps@netscape.net Wed Jun 2 16:5:16 1999 Date: 2 Jun 99 18:05:16 CDT From: SWAPS Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? > creation if linux-india-programmers list was a great idea. why not crea= te a > linux-novice or something for the newbies? that way newbies can post mo= re. (But > then is there a danger that gurus may not pay attention to newbies?) > = This list is for newbies and a general list was created sometime back whe= n some people felt they could not provide much help technically but would h= elp in advocacy. So I feel newbie questions should be tolerated but they shou= ld do their homework of searching the net first. Good places to get your answer= s are: www.freshmeat.net, www.google.com/linux, www.redhat.com/hardware www.justlinux.com, www.searchlinux.com, www.linuxstart.com, www.linuxarchives.com, www.metalab.unc.edu/LDP, = www.slashdot.org -> Ask Slashdot - -swaps ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #23 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From sunil@nicfos.ernet.in Tue Jun 1 22:14:2 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:44:02 +0530 From: Sunil Sarat Subject: Two addressess for a single eth Hi, Like in NT, which supports multiple addresssess for a single ethernet card thus enabling gatewaying with a single NIC, does LINUX ( for that matter any UNIX) has that feature? If not, can any one kindly let me know the reason for it (May be due to security concerns??) Thanks in advance Sunil Sarat - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lvgandhi@md3.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 8:36:5 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:06:05 +0530 From: "L.V.Gandhi" Subject: Re: Sound card problem S Chetan Kumar wrote: > > On Mon, 31 May 1999, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > > I ahve aztech 2320 sound card with modem. Later is disabled in the card. > > During bootup msg appears pci device set and some parameters are > > written. After that i get the msg that device is busy when sb compatibel > > is set. How to stop previous PCI setting. I feel that is the culprit not > > If I am not wrong that should be done in rc.sysinit. I can not remember > off-hand what is doing that, just checkup /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit I disabled the pnp configuaration in the above file. Still during boot itself I get the device or resource busy while sound and midi module are added. what to do next? - -- L.V.Gandhi MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://www.poboxes.com/lvgandhi lvgandhi@poboxes.com, lvgandhi@vsnl.com, 31882656@pager.mirabilis.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From lvgandhi@md3.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 8:34:1 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 21:04:01 +0530 From: "L.V.Gandhi" Subject: Re: Sound card problem Rutvik Doshi wrote: > Hi > even i've a Aztech2320 sound card and i faced simmilar problems as you are > facing..The sound card needs to be initialized using the isapnp tools...setup the > correct IRQ and DMA settings in the /etc/isapnp.conf file . This will initialize > your Aztech2320 card b'for the sound modules are loaded...But even afer lot of > tweaking around i've not managed to get it work in the 16bit mode.. it works > only in the 8 bit mode...so i can't play the mp3 files using x11amp.It will be > highly appreciated if anybody can help me configure it so that i can make it work > in the 16 bit mode...I've RH 5.2 running kernel 2.2.and i've tried out all the > availablre optionn in sndconfig I have tried pnpdump and did all possible including disabling pnp configure in /etc/rc.d/sysinit. Still iget the device or resource busy msg after configuring and playing sample soundfile. I will be grateful if you can send me your /etc/isapnp.conf file. I think You are also having the same system given by HCL (PII 266 Busybee 2000). - -- L.V.Gandhi MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://www.poboxes.com/lvgandhi lvgandhi@poboxes.com, lvgandhi@vsnl.com, 31882656@pager.mirabilis.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Wed Jun 2 17:26:38 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 17:26:38 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Two addressess for a single eth Sunil Sarat proclaimed: > Like in NT, which supports multiple addresssess for a single ethernet > card thus enabling gatewaying with a single NIC, does LINUX ( for that > matter any UNIX) has that feature? See http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/mini/IP-Alias.html It is possible to specify multiple IP addresses for the same physical eth interface. But I don't know if this enables gatewaying. Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From aldev@hotmail.com Wed Jun 2 19:1:48 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:01:48 -0700 From: aldev@hotmail.com Subject: test Testing... - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From betacomp@bom3.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 7:51:30 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:21:30 +0530 From: mukund Subject: Re: Linux on AMD K6 ***WARNING*** S Chetan Kumar wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Raghavendra Bhat wrote: > > Hi, > Can any one tell me how do I overclock a CPU, just by making > jumper settings on MotherBoard ?? > > What are the sffect of this, say t1 clocked CPU(from factory) is > overclocked to t2=x*t1, so will I know achieve a mips *= x ? > > And are there any other problems with this, like timing issues to may time > critical programs ?? > > If CPU can be overclocked why don't chip maker market their t1 Hz CPU as > t1*x Hz CPU ? > > Thanks > -Chetan S > > Rajiv Dhinakaran wrote: > > > > > > So forget about overclocking *any* K6/2's. > > > > > > > K6-2 266 has been over clocked here to 300...Who says U can't over clock > > ? > > AMD had released a press note saying that they R going to stop the > > processor from being over clocked. Can anyone, in detail, elaborate on > > how they R going to achieve this ?? Pre-300 AMDs and AMD K6-2s still > > can be over clocked !! > > > > AMD line of processors are far better and technically superior to the > > current range of Pentium procs. They R far cheaper too.... Few days back I replied similar mail. Over clocking is not at all advisable as it increases the amount of heat generated in core of cpu. If you can use chill water to cool the cpu then you may over clock it to 300% also ;-) The excess heat generated in core degrades the silicon wafers of cpu and reduces the life of cpu. It is profitable to use a 200 Mhz cpu for 5 years then using the same cpu for only 1 year at 233 Mhz ;-) Best Wishes. - -mukund http://members.theglobe.com/betacomp/default.html http://members.xoom.com/BETACOMP/index1.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From betacomp@bom3.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 7:55:12 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:25:12 +0530 From: mukund Subject: Re: INDIA must STOP buying BINARIES "Dr. Pavri" wrote: > > At 11:53 AM 6/1/99 -0700, you wrote: > > > >He *is* part of the list. I have a strong suspicion that this is Al Dev's > >new email address. :-) > > > >Thaths > > you know, my first thought was.... not another al dev...... > > shahrukh > I feel the aim of /al/dev is to increase the traffic on the list only ( for las two days I am getting more than 70 mails) and which he has achieved. Should we not ignore his mails? - -- Best Wishes. - -mukund http://members.theglobe.com/betacomp/default.html http://members.xoom.com/BETACOMP/index1.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From betacomp@bom3.vsnl.net.in Tue Jun 1 8:18:12 1999 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:48:12 +0530 From: mukund Subject: Re: ***WARNING*** (Overclocking) Rajiv Dhinakaran wrote: > > Regarding ur question Mukund, companies like AMD try to give their best > for your money. So if a processor is capable of running at a higher speed > than it is designed for then they sell it overclocked. Hence it is not > possible to further overclock these processor. > > On the other hand companies like Intel find it to be a lot cheaper to make > all their processors on the same assembly line and then mark them according > to the budget of the customer. This means that all The Celerons & P-II's > that you can buy today are identical inside, irrespective of the marked > speed. This means that Intel gets a fat profit from the ignorant customer > who pays more for the same processor marked at a higher speed. > The pricing of cpu is not that easy. The price of new cpu is higher because there are lots of rejection in the initial stage. As the rejection are minimized the price of cpu is brought down. The rejection also includes ( along with so many other parameters ) the clock speed. The assembly line is same for all types of IC but the die differs. Again I repeat , Over clocking will increase amount of heat generated in core of cpu which would lead to premature failure of cpu. Best Wishes. - -mukund http://members.theglobe.com/betacomp/default.html http://members.xoom.com/BETACOMP/index1.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prakash@FreeOS.com Wed Jun 2 7:45:39 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:15:39 +0530 From: Prakash Advani Subject: Re: sending mail thru web page Dear Mayank, We have done that with forms using Perl scripts. Something similar should work for you too. Regards Prakash > Mayank Mohan wrote: > > hi all > > how can i automate the process of sending an automatic mail message > thru my web site? > the mail is required 2 b generated on a certain condition being true. > so when a page is launched on the browser, it will check for the > condition & send a mail 2 a certain address with a certain message > automatically. > how can this b programmed??? > thanx in advance > mayank - -- Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From prakash@FreeOS.com Wed Jun 2 7:48:40 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:18:40 +0530 From: Prakash Advani Subject: Re: Two addressess for a single eth Dear Sunit, Linux does support multiple IP addresses on a single ethernet card and works a lot better than NT. Some version of NT that I had used had a Limit of only 16 addresses per ethernet card, I don't think Linux has any such limitation. One of the Websites hosted on Linux have over 400 IP addresses in the same server! Regards Prakash Sunil Sarat wrote: > > Hi, > > Like in NT, which supports multiple addresssess for a single ethernet card thus > enabling gatewaying with a single NIC, does LINUX ( for that matter any UNIX) has > that feature? If not, can any one kindly let me know the reason for it (May be due > to security concerns??) > > Thanks in advance > > Sunil Sarat > - -- Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From linuxjerk@eudoramail.com Wed Jun 2 19:58:10 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:28:10 +0530 From: "eccentric globetrotter" Subject: Re: ***WARNING*** (Overclocking) for any1 who cares :) amd and cyrix , unlike intel, tend to push there cpus for more. therefore the %age by which they can be overclocked is less. its least in cyrix. i have overclocked my amd-k6-2 300Mhz to 100x3=330Mhz where obviously 110 Mhz is the frontline bus frequency. I have also successfully booted the system on 115x3(345) 100x3.5(350) and 95x3.5(333) however since i dont have aircon and good cooling system i refrained from continuing fearing overheating. for those interested please follow this link- http://www.examedia.nl/ocf/overclock-k6-2.html regards raj :) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From linuxjerk@eudoramail.com Wed Jun 2 20:5:5 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:35:05 +0530 From: "eccentric globetrotter" Subject: PCI Modem Problem - please help Hello friends, i have posted this problem on the the list twice before but without any reply or help. I expect some response this time please. I have a AZTECH ROCKWELL MDP3858SP-U 56K PCI MODEM (http://www.aztech.com.sg/product/modem/56k3858.htm). and i cannot get the internet running under linux. can some1 please help me ? are pci modems supported? can i use internet from linux using this ? if so then how do i set it up. win98 recognises the modem on com3, irq 9 bachao bachao eagerly seeking help raj :) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Wed Jun 2 20:23:10 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:53:10 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: Enterprise Linux -Reply what happened to my article on Diskless Booting...will u be carrying it or not ?? Amit >>> Atul Chitnis 06/02/99 11:33pm >>> Woah! Good article in Network Computing! Print it out and keep it as ready Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. ------------------------------ From wye@anaggha.com Wed Jun 9 4:11:39 1999 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:41:39 +0530 From: "Wye Enterprises" Subject: Re: Display Problem(Color depth) Hi, I have atlast abandonded my efforts to install Linux on my cyrix Media GX, Now I have a 200 MMX 32 MB Ram with SiS 6215 2 MB VRM, I have installed RH 5.2 and followed the faq on using SIS6215 from the list, Well the XWindows desktiop is so huge that I can see one qrt of the Screen the rest is spread and I am ot able to scroll How Do I set it to nromal desktop ? Yoganand Goteti - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Wed Jun 2 20:29:5 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:59:05 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: Microsoft points its Big Guns on Linux! Really? Come back to India and do all this then. - -- Raju >>>>> "YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)" == linux penguin writes: YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> 1. M$ appoints 10 employees to counter YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> threat of growing linux. These YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> marketing experts may do negative YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> campaign against using linux. YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> M$ already dropped a bomb-shell by YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> doing a demo of Web-server using NT and YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> badly tuned/untuned linux. M$ twisted YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> the results such that NT was little YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> faster than linux. But in reality YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> moderately tuned linux out performs YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> NT. More bomb-shells may follow!! YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> This is clear "WAR"/ YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> "Aggresion"/"Mis-chief" on linux. YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> M$ also hired expert programmers to put YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> in stray code into linux -kernel which YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> will delay the release of Linux YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> versions and also can cause some YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> problems. YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> Hackers now take refuge in "safe haven" YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> and Sri Lanka, Malaysia! Hackers are YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> sitting on "opposition" benches and the YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> ruling party is M$ - It is real YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> politics! YAAD (Yet Another Al Dev)> 2. Hackers are very angry [etc] - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Wed Jun 2 21:4:22 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:34:22 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: Problem enabling dumb-terminals On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > > > > Recently, I load Red-hat linux kernel version 2.0.6. I put my > > Splecilix (8 port card). And I find out that , it was enable when the Look at /usr/doc/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO or http://metalab.unc.edu/Linux/doc/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO In summary you need to add following lines in /etc/inittab file. # Serial lines s1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS0 vt100 s2:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 19200 ttyS1 vt100 HTH - -ChetanS ________ The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Wed Jun 2 21:16:13 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:46:13 +0530 (IST) From: S Chetan Kumar Subject: QLinux: A QoS enhanced Linux Kernel for Multimedia Computing (fwd) My apologies, if someone on the list is not intrested on this. - -Chetan S - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:53:42 -0400 From: Pawan Goyal To: end2end-interest@ISI.EDU Cc: goyal@ensim.com Subject: QLinux: A QoS enhanced Linux Kernel for Multimedia Computing QLinux: A QoS enhanced Linux Kernel for Multimedia Computing We are pleased to announce the public release of the QLinux kernel. QLinux, based on the Linux 2.2.x kernel, combines some of the latest innovations in operating systems research. It includes the following features: * Hierarchical Start Time Fair Queuing (H-SFQ) CPU scheduler * Hierarchical Start Time Fair Queuing (H-SFQ) network packet scheduler * Lazy receiver processing (LRP) network subsystem * Cello disk scheduling algorithm [not stable yet] The H-SFQ CPU scheduler enables hierarchical scheduling of applications by fairly allocating cpu bandwidth to individual applications and application classes. The H-SFQ packet scheduler provides rate guarantees and fair allocation of bandwidth to packets from individual flows as well as flow aggregates (classes). Lazy receiver processing enables accurate charging of TCP/UDP protocol processing overhead (including interrupt processing) to the appropriate process. The Cello disk scheduler supports multiple application classes such as interactive best-effort, throughput-intensive best effort and soft real-time and fairly allocates disk bandwidth to these classes. When enabled, these features replace the standard features/schedulers available in Linux. QLinux provides the flexibility of allowing any combination of these features to be compiled as needed. The current version for QLinux (based on the 2.2.0 kernel) is available for download from http://www.cs.umass.edu/~lass/software/qlinux A port to 2.2.9 kernel will be available in the near future. The QLinux developers can be reached at qlinux@cs.umass.edu. QLinux announcements are available by subscribing to the qlinux-announce mailing list To subscribe, send a mail to majordomo@cs.umass.edu with the body "subscribe qlinux-announce" QLinux is a joint effort between AT&T Labs-Research, Distributed Multimedia Computing Laboratory (Univ. of Texas) and the Laboratory for Advanced System Software (Univ. of Massachusetts). QLinux has been developed by the following people: Pawan Goyal (Ensim Corporation, formerly with AT&T Research) Jasleen Kaur Sahni (Univ. of Texas) Prashant Shenoy (Univ. of Massachusetts) Raghav Srinivasan (Univ. of Massachusetts) Harrick Vin (Univ. of Texas). T. R. Vishwanath (Univ. of Texas) We look forward to feedback from users of QLinux. Pawan Goyal, Prashant Shenoy and Harrick Vin (qlinux@cs.umass.edu) Acknowledgments - --------------- Inputs and/or resources for the QLinux project were provided by Gisli Hjalmtysson (AT&T Research) and R. Gopal (AT&T Research) References - --------- QLinux is based on the following research publications: [1] P. Goyal and X. Guo and H.M. Vin, A Hierarchical CPU Scheduler for Multimedia Operating Systems, Proceedings of 2nd Symposium on Operating System Design and Implementation (OSDI'96), Seattle, WA, pages 107-122, October 1996. [2] P. Goyal and H. M. Vin and H. Cheng, Start-time Fair Queuing: A Scheduling Algorithm for Integrated Services Packet Switching Networks, In IEEE/ACM Transaction on Networking, October 1997. A preliminary version appeared in the Proceedings of ACM SIGCOMM'96, pages 157-168, August 1996. [3] P. Druschel and G. Banga, Lazy Receiver Processing (LRP): A Network Subsystem Architecture for Server Systems, Proceedings of the 2nd Symposium on Operating System Design and Implementation (OSDI'96), Seattle, WA, Pages 261-275, October 1996 [4] P Shenoy and H M. Vin, Cello: A Disk Scheduling Framework for Next Generation Operating Systems, Proceedings of ACM SIGMETRICS Conference, Madison, WI, 44-55, June 1998. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From mmphadke@yahoo.com Wed Jun 2 21:50:3 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:20:03 +0530 From: Manoj Phadke Subject: Re: IBM releases ServeRAID driver as GPL Dear Atul, thanks for the information on IBM SERVERAID DEVICE DRIVER We were looking for it since last 3 weeks. Regards Manoj Atul Chitnis wrote: > IBM today released a driver for it's ServeRAID family of high-performance > RAID controllers as GPL - a first among major systems vendors. > > The ServeRAID device driver has been developed (and tested) under RedHat > Linux 6.0 (Kernel 2.2.5 and 2.2.9). This driver is being released as BETA > software under the terms of the GNU Public License. > > The ServeRAID for Linux device driver works with the following > controllers: > > ServeRAID I > ServeRAID II > ServeRAID 3H > ServeRAID 3L > ServeRAID on the Planer (IBM PC Server 330) > ServeRAID on the Planer (Netfinity 5500) > > The driver can be found at > http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/netfinity/serveraid_beta.html > > (From Linux Today) > > Atul > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Atul Chitnis | achitnis@cbconsulting.com > C&B Consulting | http://www.cbconsulting.com > Bangalore, India | +91(80)3440397 Fax +91(80)3341137 > ---------------------------------------------------- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From thaths@aunet.org Wed Jun 2 22:24:11 1999 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:24:11 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: Your mail... On Thu, Jun 03, 1999 at 09:11:20AM +0530, did Raj Mathur write: > >> From: Raj Mathur To: linux-india@aunet.org > >> Subject: Re: India is always - Linux > >> > >> IF THIS GOES ON ANY LONGER I SHALL UN SU BS CR IBE FROM THE LIST! > >> > >> *Falling into a corner and giggling uncontrollably* > >> > >> >>>>> "Indranil" == Indranil Das Gupta > >> writes: > >> > Indranil> Absolutely agree with Atul.....Linux has no place for > Indranil> people with small minds and their meanness. > >> > Indranil> To Sudhakar : Thaths, I know that this list isn't > Indranil> moderated, but if some people like these continue to > Indranil> carry on in this manner that goes completely against the > Indranil> global perspective/philosophy of Linux with repeated > Indranil> violation/subvertion of the purpose of this list, should > Indranil> they be tolerated and allowed to remain on the list? - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com Wed Jun 2 22:28:19 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:58:19 +0530 From: Vinay Avasthi Subject: Re: PCI Modem Problem - please help This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------241ED7D28037F2C553629AD8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think this modem will work under Linux. Last time I got into this problem I was told that in general PCI modems have problem in working under linux and there is some problem with Rockwell's proprietary protocols. Only solution may be to buy a new modem. For use under linux it is better to buy an external modem. VA - ------------------------------------------------------------ > eccentric globetrotter wrote: > > Hello friends, > > i have posted this problem on the the list twice before but without any reply or help. I expect some response this time please. > > I have a AZTECH ROCKWELL MDP3858SP-U 56K PCI MODEM (http://www.aztech.com.sg/product/modem/56k3858.htm). and i cannot get the internet running under linux. can some1 please help me ? are pci modems supported? can i use internet from linux using this ? if so then how do i set it up. > > win98 recognises the modem on com3, irq 9 > > bachao bachao > > eagerly seeking help > > raj :) > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. - --------------241ED7D28037F2C553629AD8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Vinay_Avasthi-A12733.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Vinay Avasthi Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Vinay_Avasthi-A12733.vcf" begin:vcard n:Avasthi;Vinay tel;fax:+91-80-5598660 tel;work:+91-80-5598615 Extn. 4027 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://members.tripod.com/Vinay_Avasthi org:Motorola India Electronics Ltd.;Network Management Operations adr:;;The Senate, 33A, Ulsoor Road,;Bangalore;Karnataka;560042;India version:2.1 email;internet:Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com title:Staff Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Vinay Avasthi end:vcard - --------------241ED7D28037F2C553629AD8-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com Wed Jun 2 22:29:25 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:59:25 +0530 From: Vinay Avasthi Subject: Re: Display Problem(Color depth) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------A7A9691E6726C3F32D721C03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When you run Xconfigurator there is an option to set the display size. Most probably your display size is set to 640x480. You need to unselect all the other sizes. VA - ------------------------------------------------------ > Wye Enterprises wrote: > > Hi, > > I have atlast abandonded my efforts to install Linux on my cyrix Media GX, > Now I have a 200 MMX 32 MB Ram with SiS 6215 2 MB VRM, I have installed RH > 5.2 and followed the faq on using SIS6215 from the list, Well the XWindows > desktiop is so huge that I can see one qrt of the Screen the rest is spread > and I am ot able to scroll How Do I set it to nromal desktop ? > Yoganand Goteti > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Wed Jun 2 23:21:42 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:51:42 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: India is always - Linux > sorry for having wasted the list's bandwidth. > (put it in your list's faq that a man called al dev will post > such material and > its to be ignored and anyone who replies for it "is behaving like > complete and utter jerks".) That is overreaction and misinterpretation. Let's be clear about this. I said that anyone who posts stuff the way Al Dev does is a complete and utter jerk, but I didn't say that everyone who replies/objects to his drivel is one, too. And also note that this is my own personal opinion. I am neither a list admin nor anyone associated in the running of this list. I am a subscriber to the list who objects to being made to read the garbage some perverted pseudo-patriot sitting in Huston deems to dump into this list. Why can he not use the toilet like civilized people do? Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From vsashok@tifr.res.in Wed Jun 2 23:45:59 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:15:59 +0530 (IST) From: V S Ashoka Subject: Re: Display Problem(Color depth) On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Vinay Avasthi wrote: > When you run Xconfigurator there is an option to set the display size. > Most probably > your display size is set to 640x480. You need to unselect all the > other sizes. > > VA Perhaps you can also set a virtual screen size. This would enable you to alter resolutions by pressing ctrl+alt+grey+- I still suspect that XF86 is not set properly. You could run pcqupdt (if you are using PCQ disk) and then go about setting these stuff. Ashok - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From manasg@inf.com Wed Jun 2 23:52:8 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:22:08 +0530 (IST) From: manas garg Subject: Memory Usage by X Hi, I checked the memory usage by X after 5 days of continuous operation and found it to be whopping 46.1%. The performance had obviously slowed down. I observed it for some time (1 day) and found that it fluctuated between 44.2% - 52.3%. I rebooted my machine and then somehow forgot about it. Then after half a day I remembered the observations that I was making and I checked that it's 18.1%. It's constant at that (or at least I found it to be that way) for half an hr. I am using kernel 2.0.36 and WindowMaker as window manager. One of my friend connects to my machine using VNC but he is connected all the time. He also uses WindowMaker. I have 64 MB RAM and 100 MB swap. I gathered info about memory usage from 'top'. Will some GURU please shed some light on this?? Thanks Manas - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From ashisha@rsi.ramco.com Thu Jun 3 0:20:50 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:50:50 +0530 From: Ashish Agarwal Subject: RE: Problem with ATI card Hi, I have a few problems in my installation of Linux, and I hope you all can help me. I have a AMD K-6 266 with a 4.3 GB HDD and put a partition for Linux; the other partition having 98. I Installed from the PCQUEST Red hat 5.2 version. Linux was installed as a workstation. Now there are a couple of problems, for some reason, there are no HOWTO's there along with the instal on my machine, it was my understanding that HOWTO's, Apache and a couple of other services such as PHP were also installed; I don't have any of these. Could there be some problem with the instal or do I have to do a custom instal ? Secondly, I am having a lot of problem installing XFree86. I have a ATI Mach64GT 4 MB card and a ViewSonic monitor. The system after doing the auto-probe is not able to detect the video ram, and whatever configuration, I try, the xserver is not getting loaded properly. the mouse is there, but the display is blurred with multiple occurences of the toolbar. I tried the Linux documentation, ATI's web-site and various other online resources, but no dice; so if anybody could give me some help, I would be very grateful. I am in Chennai. Regards, Ashish ashisha@rsi.ramco.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From kousik.bera@tcs.tcpn.com Thu Jun 3 1:15:11 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:45:11 +0530 From: "Bera, Kousik" Subject: Re: VideoCD Player for Linux >But if i directly play the file using the player (mtvp) the file is played fully. But >in both the cases the playback is in window. In graphical mode Full Screen option >splits the screen into two and the player gets hanged. While using the actual player >I am unable to do Full Screen Playback since there is no command line option >for full screen playback. Hi rajesh, I haven't installed the player yet ;-) But yes, I have downloaded the packages and reqd docs. I got the following info for fullscreen playback for mtvp: (From ftp://ftp.mpegtv.com/pub/mpeg/mpegtv/player/x86-unknown-linux-glibc/README-V CD) .... If you want to use the full-screen mode, you need to run mtv as root or mtvp must be set-uid root. To set-uid root, become root and type: $ chown root mtvp; chmod +s mtvp For details, see file /usr/doc/mtv/README-Fullscreen **** SECURITY WARNING!!! **** Setting the 's' bit of mtvp (set-uid root) creates security holes and allows a user to perform privileged operations. Therefore if you have a system that must be secure, you must remove the 's' flag (set-uid) of mtvp with: I guess this will serve your purpose. Kousik - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #24 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From dhiren@atcnet.com.np Thu Jun 3 3:1:7 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:01:07 +0500 From: Dhiran Rajbhandari Subject: Re: How to use Windows NT for Unix Services tool for Telnet service Dear friends, Once again I am going to submit my problem. We have Windows NT server. I want this server to be used as telnet server too. So, I downloaded the Windows NT for Unix Services which includes NFS, telnet server, telnet client, Unix shell and etc in unix style. I need only telnet server but not other. So, I installed the same service only in NT Server. But can't telnet to that server. I always get the message like "Connection refused". I try to search for the configuration for this service but couldn't. If somebody knows than pls help me. I should be grateful to this. Regards, Dhiren At 07:30 PM 5/26/99 +0530, you wrote: >Hi Dhiran Rajbhandari -you are welcome -I am unable to sort/see the problem >-pl explain the problem in detail -on maling list only --- > >Cheers >-Amit > >Dhiran Rajbhandari wrote: > >> Dear friends, >> Sorry I am changing the track. But it's somewhat related to >> our group. Actually I want to use telnet services in NT proxy server. I >> have got Windows NT for Unix Services and I installed it but still not >> able to use the telnet service and always get the message connection >> refused whenever I try to telnet the NT proxy server. Is there any extra >> configuration for this service? Please help me if anyone knows about it. >> >> Thanks in Advance... >> >> Regards, >> Dhiren >> >> Dhiran Rajbhandari >> ATC Communications Network >> 7/28 Adarsh Nagar, Birgunj, (Nepal) >> Email : dhiren@atcnet.com.np >> Phone : 977-51-24075 >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word >> 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. > > > > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From rubeel@qafac.com.qa Thu Jun 3 2:27:28 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:27:28 +0300 From: "Rubeel Khatib" Subject: Linux Books & Manuals This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEADBC.71874560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you please advise good sites where I can find linux books and = manuals in Acrobat (PDF) formats. Rubeel - ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BEADBC.71874560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage them- Thanks - - -Amit - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 4:4:36 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:34:36 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess Amit: This *is* a technical support list for Linux! What did *you* think it was? So please, everyone, disregard this and keep sending your queries. Atul > -----Original Message----- > From: Majordomo [mailto:majordom@aunet.org]On Behalf Of Amit > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 4:10 PM > To: linux-india@aunet.org > Subject: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess > > > > I guess we we getting technical support emails -on this list or > -I don't know -don't you think -this mailing list is geting > loaded. > > I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in > Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage > them- > > Thanks - > -Amit > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sharadj@wipinfo.soft.net Thu Jun 3 4:3:29 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:33:29 +0530 (IST) From: Sharad Joshi Subject: Re: Linux Books & Manuals On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Rubeel Khatib wrote: + Can you please advise good sites where I can find linux books and manuals in Acrobat (PDF) formats. + Oh.. http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/LDP hosts many linux related docs. Sharad. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sunil@nicfos.ernet.in Thu Jun 3 3:46:56 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:16:56 +0530 From: Sunil Sarat Subject: Shifting from SCO to LINUX Hi, I want to shift my existing mail serverss(SCO UNIX) to LINUX. Can I copy the passwd/shadow files from SCO to LINUX? (So that the users need not change their passwords)? Thanks in advance Sunil Sarat - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sanjay_chigurupati@flashmail.com Thu Jun 3 4:15:9 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:45:09 +0530 From: sanjay chaudary Subject: Reg Intel Processors No potshots at Intel intended. But I remember reading this article in a Magazine . Intel marketed 486 Sx as 486 Dx ( by incorporating a better cooling system ) (This may be even 386 , quite old article ) . Another thing they did was provide the Pentium overdrive which after being inserted in the slot just disabled the older processor. (The models may be slightly different , Dont remember clearly . Got this from EFY / Dataquest ) Sanjay - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 4:33:10 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:03:10 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: Reg Intel Processors > But I remember reading this article in a Magazine . Intel > marketed > 486 Sx as 486 Dx ( by incorporating a better cooling system ) > (This may be even 386 , quite old article ) . Another thing > they did was provide the Pentium overdrive which after being > inserted in the slot just disabled the older processor. > > (The models may be slightly different , Dont remember clearly . > Got this from EFY / Dataquest ) I doubt that you got this from DQ! If you did, please let me know the issue and page number - heads will roll! The difference between the 486sx and dx models was, as far as I remember, the absence/presence of a numeric co-processor. (Arun, correct me I am wrong). The Overdrive processors were *meant* to disable the existing processor while the OD was plugged in - because the the OD replaced the processor with a highspeed one. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Thu Jun 3 4:36:51 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:06:51 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: LPD probs Hi all, I have RH5.2. When i installed it, my lpd was running fine, meaning, i was able to print to a remote HP laserjet printer on our network. Now i cant. Though lpd is started, it does not stay that way. What could be the problem ? TIA ciao, amit - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From mysxrd@giasbg01.vsnl.net.in Thu Jun 3 5:15:46 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:45:46 +0530 (IST) From: XRDLAB Subject: Playing VCD with xanim Hi, I downloaded xanim ver. 2.8 and installed it. Works fine (on some animated gif's). I also downloaded the dll's available on the xanim's website which the author suggests are needed to run various format files. I checked whether I could play a vcd through xanim. I could not. There are a couple of music??.dat files in mpegav directory on the cd. I could play these file under Win95 and mtvp (downloaded from www.mpegtv.com). Can anybody give me some pointers regarding playing a vcd thru' xanim? Incidentally, to check what type of a file music01.dat is, I did file music01.dat I get a message that there is an error reading the file and the program aborts. Any clues? TIA, sridhar ******************************************** Dr. Sridhar M. A. Department of Physics University of Mysore, Manasagangotri Mysore 570 006, INDIA Tel: +91-821-516133 Fax: +91-821-516133 E-mail: mysxrd@giasbg01.vsnl.net.in ******************************************* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prasadb@sol.net.in Thu Jun 3 3:4:25 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:34:25 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? Craig Lewis wrote: > I have a Trident PCI 9680 and have also installed Linux on a system having a > Trident 9750 AGP card. On both the systems, I was able to run X at all > resolutions except at 640x480 (32-bit). 640x480 (8-bit &16-bit) and 800x600 > (8-bit, 16-bit and 32-bit) work perfectly. Do you have the same problem? If > not, could you send me your XF86Config file. I have not tried the resolutions you mention. I am happy with 1024x768 at 16 bits (though I think I tried other color depths also). - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From tusar@agfe.iitkgp.ernet.in Thu Jun 3 5:24:34 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:54:34 +0530 (IST) From: Tusarkanti Nayak Subject: Re: How to use Windows NT for Unix Services tool for Telnet service First of all I would like to say WinNT can not come anywhere close to unix system...so no point in finding a telnetd server for NT..but if you are interested you can purchase one telnetd server for your purpose..go to deja.com freedownloads and then search for telnetd you will find the list showing the files and links with it..these will be trial version ofcourse..try it and purchase(thats what you have to do for windoze programs..here for a small thing you have to BUY..but this you can not do for linux for getting a good softwares!!! Tusar On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Dhiran Rajbhandari wrote: > Dear friends, > Once again I am going to submit my problem. We have Windows NT > server. I want this server to be used as telnet server too. So, I > downloaded the Windows NT for Unix Services which includes NFS, telnet > server, telnet client, Unix shell and etc in unix style. I need only telnet > server but not other. So, I installed the same service only in NT Server. > But can't telnet to that server. I always get the message like "Connection > refused". I try to search for the configuration for this service but > couldn't. If somebody knows than pls help me. I should be grateful to this. > > Regards, > Dhiren > > At 07:30 PM 5/26/99 +0530, you wrote: > >Hi Dhiran Rajbhandari -you are welcome -I am unable to sort/see the problem > >-pl explain the problem in detail -on maling list only --- > > > >Cheers > >-Amit > > > >Dhiran Rajbhandari wrote: > > > >> Dear friends, > >> Sorry I am changing the track. But it's somewhat related to > >> our group. Actually I want to use telnet services in NT proxy server. I > >> have got Windows NT for Unix Services and I installed it but still not > >> able to use the telnet service and always get the message connection > >> refused whenever I try to telnet the NT proxy server. Is there any extra > >> configuration for this service? Please help me if anyone knows about it. > >> > >> Thanks in Advance... > >> > >> Regards, > >> Dhiren > >> > >> Dhiran Rajbhandari > >> ATC Communications Network > >> 7/28 Adarsh Nagar, Birgunj, (Nepal) > >> Email : dhiren@atcnet.com.np > >> Phone : 977-51-24075 > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word > >> 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > Tusarkanti Nayak Junior Project Officer Agril. & Food Eng. Dept. Indian Institute of Technology Kharagpur - 721 302, INDIA Ph - +91-3222-55221 Extn - 4563 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Thu Jun 3 5:59:57 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:29:57 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: Reg Intel Processors >>>>> "Sanjay" == sanjay chaudary writes: Sanjay> No potshots at Intel intended. But I remember reading Sanjay> this article in a Magazine . Intel marketed 486 Sx as 486 Sanjay> Dx ( by incorporating a better cooling system ) (This may Sanjay> be even 386 , quite old article ) . Another thing they Sanjay> did was provide the Pentium overdrive which after being Sanjay> inserted in the slot just disabled the older processor. Uh, wasn't the difference between the 486 SX and DX that the one didn't have a built-in maths coproc, while the other did? - -- Raju - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Thu Jun 3 6:16:52 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:46:52 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess -Reply what else is this list for buddy ? discussing life after death ? ;-) >>> Amit 06/03/99 04:09pm >>> I guess we we getting technical support emails -on this list or - -I don't know -don't you think -this mailing list is geting loaded. I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage them- Thanks - - -Amit - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From vairavan@usa.net Thu Jun 3 7:6:17 1999 Date: 3 Jun 99 10:06:17 EDT From: Muthu Vairavan Subject: PCI modems >I was told that in general PCI modems have problem in working under >linux Is it true? Can somebody please confirm it? Thanks in advance Muthu Do you want jokes (English, Hindi, Tamil, ...) thrice a week? If so, cont= act me! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From asatsi@hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 7:15:43 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 07:15:43 PDT From: Satish Pagare Subject: Re: Playing VCD with xanim Yeah that's true ... Coz the audio CD format on the CD's is not in mpeg format, if u rip those CDs you will get wav files out of it. But the files and the filesystem on the CD is not understood in linux as a normal file systems hence when u do file music1.dat u get error message. The CDPlayers on linux also do not mount the CD and they play the songs.... Satish/ >Incidentally, to check what type of a file music01.dat is, I did > > file music01.dat > >I get a message that there is an error reading the file and the >program aborts. Any clues? - -------------------------------------------------------------- "I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -- Hunter S. Thompson - -------------------------------------------------------------- Satish K. Pagare, Visit me : http://satish.cjb.net Software Engineer. INFORMIX India Development Center. Mumbai - 400 096, INDIA. mailto:asatsi@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From ideas@india.com Thu Jun 3 7:17:54 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 19:47:54 +0530 From: Amit Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list ok -Acutely I was subscribed to linus-india-general --and I was automatically transferred to linux-india(this) mailing list --during server migration. Could you please tell me - o India mailing list (yes India -where people can work for India) ? o When is linux-india-mailing list expected to come up again? Thanks in Advance. - -Amit Atul Chitnis wrote: > Amit: > > This *is* a technical support list for Linux! What did *you* think it was? > > So please, everyone, disregard this and keep sending your queries. > > Atul > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Majordomo [mailto:majordom@aunet.org]On Behalf Of Amit > > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 4:10 PM > > To: linux-india@aunet.org > > Subject: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess > > > > > > > > I guess we we getting technical support emails -on this list or > > -I don't know -don't you think -this mailing list is geting > > loaded. > > > > I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in > > Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage > > them- > > > > Thanks - > > -Amit > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Thu Jun 3 8:26:26 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:26:26 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: ***WARNING*** (Overclocking) On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:40:51AM +0530, Rajiv Dhinakaran wrote: > >K6-2 266 has been over clocked here to 300...Who says U can't over clock? > > Dear Ragoo, prob. u missed the line that says all pre 300MHz K6 processors > (incl. K6/2) can be safely overclocked. My own K6-266 is overclocked at 300. Just a quick note about overclocking: The ability to overclock is limited by the L2 cache. Processors like Celeron which don't have an L2 cache are known to be overclocked much more easily than their equivalent PIIs. In any case, I know of no company that recommends overclocking their processors. Some are more permissive than others. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 8:27:38 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:57:38 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: PCI modems > >I was told that in general PCI modems have problem in working under > >linux > > Is it true? Can somebody please confirm it? Nope, no issues with PCI. Linux loves PCI. Linux hates *WinModems* (which usually are PCI based), but that doesn't apply to every PCI device, just WinModems that don't have their own brains and depend on Windows DSP drivers (that's "brains"???) to work. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Thu Jun 3 8:35:51 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:35:51 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 04:15:18PM +0530, Atul Chitnis wrote: > Let us all take a moment here to bend our heads and pray that the next > system integrator to offer anyone a SiS6215 card will get chewed up by a > herd of rabid hyenas, and then get trampled by a herd of elephants > (unsuccessfully) learning ballroom dancing. Isn't the hardware compatibility list linked to www.redhat.com/support already doing that ? We have pointers to all those in the FAQ. The RH guide tries to differentiate hardware that works better by using some "Tier" based classification. But other sites (most notably XFree86) don't do that. Perhaps we can have a list of cards which are popular in India and which are known not to work well ? Also, KD, who manages the website isn't very active on the list. So keeping such a list on the web site is probably not feasible. If someone else volunteers to maintain it, we can certainly add a pointer. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Thu Jun 3 8:39:24 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:39:24 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: System is halted On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 06:51:25PM +0530, prasad wrote: > Small question - why does the "System is halted" message > get displayed twice (I am using RH 5.x) , when I do > a 'shutdown -h now'? Check if you have multiple symlinks to /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt Also, check if both the messages are coming from the same place by altering the above script (add more echos). -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Thu Jun 3 8:43:58 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:43:58 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: significance of bits On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 02:50:31PM +0530, prasad wrote: > Arun Sharma wrote: > > > But Goankar is right in that the general purpose registers on a 32 bit > > microprocessor will still be 32 bit (because they're also used for > > addressing virtual memory). But the data bus doesn't have to > > be 32 bit. > > Well , the 8088 was a 16 bit CPU. Though the external data bus > may be smaller , internally , it is a 16 bit CPU. The internal > data bus width should determine the 'bitness'. > As I said, the internal data bus width could be variable. Pentium III has the usual 32 bit regs, as well as the SIMD (single instruction multiple data) instructions, which do 128 bit ops. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Thu Jun 3 8:45:48 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:45:48 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Linux compatibility ... On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 07:39:28PM +0530, Sachin Garg wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > > > Karan Girotra proclaimed: > > > How can one determine if the unix version of any software will run on > > > a linux machine?? > > > Doesn't linux support older unix type of binaries ??? > > > so shouldn't all unix software run easily on linux ??? > > > > Binaries will not run across various unices. > > What about IBCS? To rephrase, if multiple Linux/UNIX machines stick to the same ABI (application binary interface), then binaries of the above OSes for the same processor *might* work on other OSes. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From betacomp@bom3.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 8:17:23 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:47:23 +0530 From: mukund Subject: Re: India is always - Linux Atul Chitnis wrote: > > And also note that this is my own personal opinion. I am neither a list > admin nor anyone associated in the running of this list. I am a subscriber > to the list who objects to being made to read the garbage some perverted > pseudo-patriot sitting in Huston deems to dump into this list. Why can he > not use the toilet like civilized people do? > If Mr. Al dev, has some hesitation in using ultra modern toilets, here are some antique toilets. http://www.sulabhtoiletmuseum.org/ The interested list member can also only have peek. Best Wishes. - -mukund http://members.theglobe.com/betacomp/default.html http://members.xoom.com/BETACOMP/index1.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From betacomp@bom3.vsnl.net.in Wed Jun 2 8:19:59 1999 Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 20:49:59 +0530 From: mukund Subject: Re: How to use Windows NT for Unix Services tool for Telnetservice Dhiran Rajbhandari wrote: > > Dear friends, > Once again I am going to submit my problem. We have Windows NT > server. I want this server to be used as telnet server too. So, I > downloaded the Windows NT for Unix Services which includes NFS, telnet > server, telnet client, Unix shell and etc in unix style. I need only telnet > server but not other. So, I installed the same service only in NT Server. > But can't telnet to that server. I always get the message like "Connection > refused". I try to search for the configuration for this service but > couldn't. If somebody knows than pls help me. I should be grateful to this. > > Regards, > Dhiren > The magic word 'linux' appears to be missing in your mail. Is this related to linux? Best Wishes. - -mukund http://members.theglobe.com/betacomp/default.html http://members.xoom.com/BETACOMP/index1.htm - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From shibumi@mailandnews.com Thu Jun 3 9:24:40 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:24:40 +0000 From: Rajkumar Andrews Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list What are you talking about? Please use good english. Nobody gave you the right to talk rubbish in a public forum. What do you mean by "-pl don't send technical mails here". Write english - not some computer language you cooked up!! And I think all this Al Dev crunching is a bit too much. Just ignore such emails or if you feel strongly about it go and see him and hit him on his head but spare us, please ...... Thank you. Rajkumar Andrews Amit wrote: > > I guess we we getting technical support emails -on this list or > -I don't know -don't you think -this mailing list is geting > loaded. > > I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in > Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage > them- > > Thanks - > -Amit > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From shibumi@mailandnews.com Thu Jun 3 9:27:55 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:27:55 +0000 From: Rajkumar Andrews Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess -Reply Tend to agree with Amit Kucheria. Who is this Amit at Ideas/India/Com. Sounds like a DONKEY from Timbuktu, to me!! I might physically smash his skull if I see him!! Rajkumar Andrews AMIT KUCHERIA wrote: > > what else is this list for buddy ? discussing life after death ? ;-) > > >>> Amit 06/03/99 04:09pm >>> > > I guess we we getting technical support emails -on this list or > -I don't know -don't you think -this mailing list is geting > loaded. > > I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in > Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage > them- > > Thanks - > -Amit > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From shibumi@mailandnews.com Thu Jun 3 9:31:37 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:31:37 +0000 From: Rajkumar Andrews Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list PLEASE USE ENGLISH. If you send more emails in a combination of Perl/C++ style I will personally spam each and every account I know you possess. Also I find your personal ads regarding "Free Linux Help" in Delhi quite insulting. If you do not know English Language please meet and I will help you out -- FREE!! Thanks. Rajkumar Andrews Amit wrote: > > ok -Acutely I was subscribed to linus-india-general --and I was automatically > transferred to linux-india(this) mailing list --during server migration. > > Could you please tell me - > > o India mailing list (yes India -where people can work for India) ? > o When is linux-india-mailing list expected to come up again? > > Thanks in Advance. > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prakash@FreeOS.com Wed Jun 2 21:7:2 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:37:02 +0530 From: Prakash Advani Subject: Re: Reg Intel Processors There was no difference between the 486 SX and DX except that in the SX the co-processor was disabled internally. It was just an Intel strategy to have control over the low end market. Regards Prakash Raj Mathur wrote: > > Uh, wasn't the difference between the 486 SX and DX that the one > didn't have a built-in maths coproc, while the other did? > > -- Raju > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -- Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From muthu811@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in Thu Jun 3 9:45:41 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:15:41 +0530 From: "Muthu" Subject: Network Card & Latest Version. Hello Everybody, I am planning to buy a network card for my machine running Slackware Linux 3.5 . I have a 486 machine with an ISA(No PCI Slots) Non PNP motherboard ( EXP4044 Green with Award BIOS). Please suggest me a good Network Card with a reasonable Price tag. I have another query. I started my Linux career with Slackware 3.5 some 6 months ago, within a few months Slack 3.6 came and now Slack 4.0 has been released. Now, I am interested in upgrading to Slack 3.6 or Slack 4.0 . My question is "Whether continuously upgrading to the then latest version of a Linux distribution is a good habit or not? i.e., "Do I need to stick to a particular version and learn it thoroughly and after a period of some time move to the latest version of that distro?". Eagerly waiting for your reply. regards muthu - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #25 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 9:43:37 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:13:37 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: Linux compatibility ... > To rephrase, if multiple Linux/UNIX machines stick to the same ABI (application > binary interface), then binaries of the above OSes for the same processor > *might* work on other OSes. A related example - when Alan Cox ported Linux to the Apple Macintosh 68K platform, he got the kernel running, and then was able to run *unmodified* binaries from the Amiga (also 68K) Linux platform. Alan documented the process (and the pitfalls) in his article that appeared in a recent Linux Journal issue (January 1999, "Kernel Korner: Linux for Macintosh 68K Port" by Alan Cox). Makes excellent reading. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From thaths@netscape.com Thu Jun 3 10:10:26 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:10:26 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandrasekharan Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list Amit proclaimed: > ok -Acutely I was subscribed to linus-india-general --and I > was automatically transferred to linux-india(this) mailing > list --during server migration. What actually happened was this: 1. grandteton crashed. The then current subscriber list for linux-india and linux-india-general was lost. 2. Arun had a slightly old version of the subscriber list for linux-india. I recreated the list on aunet.org using this slightly older list of subscriber list. > Could you please tell me - > o India mailing list (yes India -where people can work for India) ? Eh? What are you trying to say? You are looking for *a* India mailing list? There should be hundreds of them. Which of many *the authoritative* India mailing list you want to join is up to you. > o When is linux-india-mailing list expected to come up again? There was no linux-india-mailing list. Ever. If by that you mean when is there going to be a linux-india-general mailing list, you are lucky. I just (moments ago) created a linux-india-general mailing list. Anyone who wants to subscribe to this list should send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the words 'subscribe linux-india-general' (without the quotes) in the body (not subject) of the email. Thaths - -- "It all happened at the beginning of that turbulent decade known as the Eighties. Those were idealistic days: the candidacy of John Anderson, the rise of Supertramp. It was an exciting time to be young." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 10:2:35 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:32:35 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: Reg Intel Processors On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Prakash Advani wrote: > There was no difference between the 486 SX and DX except that in the SX > the co-processor was disabled internally. It was just an Intel strategy > to have control over the low end market. Sounds like a pretty major difference to me ;-) Actually, the SX was introduced when Intel was unable to make people move from the 386 to the 486. This wasn't so much strategy as necessity - people who did not use an 80387 were not keen on paying for the built in coprocessor in the 486 since there was virtually nothing available in terms of software to make use of it. This was not Intel's fault - the guaranteed presence of a math coprocessor actually made life a whole lot simpler for developers, but until these applications started appearing, there was resistence to the concept. Intel *needed* to move people onto the 486 (for technical and also commercial reasons), and so they introduced a "low-end" 486 that was priced almost the same a 386 - making the choice easier. But they never did it again - the math coprocessor became a standard feature of every Intel chip. Too many applications that came along *required* this capability - a complete reversal of the situation when Intel introduced the 486sx. ;-) Today, Intel no longer has to resort to such things because the economics of scale actually allow them to price a PIII at the same level as a highend PII - making the choice for a new purchaser a foregone conclusion. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 10:12:4 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:42:04 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: Network Card & Latest Version. > I have another query. I started my Linux career with Slackware 3.5 some 6 > months ago, within a few months Slack 3.6 came and now Slack 4.0 has been > released. Now, I am interested in upgrading to Slack 3.6 or Slack 4.0 . My > question is "Whether continuously upgrading to the then latest version of a > Linux distribution is a good habit or not? i.e., "Do I need to stick to a > particular version and learn it thoroughly and after a period of some time > move to the latest version of that distro?". Eagerly waiting for your > reply. I'd advise you to wait until SW 4.1 comes out before "upgrading", since SW is now the only Linux distribution I know of that still remains libc5 based. This is no comment on libc5 being worse than glibc (libc6) - its just that you will find less and less libc5 stuff coming out, with more and more stuff depending on features available in glibc. Linux is Linux. The latest and the greatest distros may have features you may not have in your current version. It depends on what you want to do with the box. If you are just learning commands and basic Unix usage, you needn't upgrade at all. However, if you want to try stuff available *only* in newer versions (example - ipchains), you need to upgrade. As for the actual upgrade - SW is hardly "upgradable" - as far as I can see, it involves a complete reinstall. This is different from Debian, Suse, Caldera and RedHat which are designed to be truely upgradable. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 10:5:18 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:35:18 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: Network Card & Latest Version. On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Muthu wrote: > I am planning to buy a network card for my machine running Slackware Linux > 3.5 . I have a 486 machine with an ISA(No PCI Slots) Non PNP motherboard ( > EXP4044 Green with Award BIOS). Please suggest me a good Network Card with > a reasonable Price tag. Any NE2000 clone, I guess. Make sure it is jumperable to IO/IRQ settings, or has a program that sets the IO/IRQ in the EEPROM/NVRAM. And make sure that it is not set to the default IRQ 3 (all NE2000 cards have this default) - change it to IRQ 10 or some similar IRQ *not* in use. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From harshal@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in Thu Jun 3 10:23:6 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 22:53:06 +0530 From: Harshal Jawale Subject: Minutes of FIRST Meeting of ILUG-Thane Minutes of FIRST Meeting of Thane-LUG -------------------------------------- Date : Sunday, May 30, 1999=20 Time : 9:30 pm - 10:30 pm=20 Venue : Internet Center, Thane College.=20 Participants :=20 Chetan Kelkar=20 Ranjeet Walunj=20 Manoj Pethe=20 Suyash Apte=20 Harshal Jawale=20 Introduction :=20 - ------------ This was the first meeting called by Indian Linux User Group - Thane aka Thane-Linuxers (T-Linuxers) to discuss ways and means to promote Linux in the yet unchartered sprawling metropolis of Thane. (Thane is a city some 30 kms away from Mumbai and is known for its lakes.) It was heartening to see 5 enthu guys turning up at 9:30pm on a Sunday night after a World Cup cricket match !!! T-Linuxers started off as a Mailing List on eGroups.com and has become a rallying point for enthusiastic linuxers in Thane. At present, there are about 10 members. Since, the Engg. exams are presently going on, many non-member folks are unable to whole-heartedly participate in the activities.=20 Minutes of Meeting :=20 - ------------------ The meeting was called to order by Harshal who invited the members to contribute ideas on ways to promote Linux in Thane.=20 The members agreed on two overlying guiding principles for T-Linuxers :=20 1. Spreading Linux Awareness in Thane.=20 2. Improving Linux Knowledge-base of T-Linuxers.=20 1. Awareness :=20 The members felt that Linux Awareness is still in its infancy in Thane.=20 The potential of Linux is still unknown amongst most Thaneites.=20 So the first and basic aim will be to increase awareness in the society about linux and computers in general.=20 The multi-pronged strategy includes=20 * Giving free help to folks who want to install Linux, contacting schools and colleges as well some Computer Education Institutes known to the members where free demonstrations on Linux installation can be given. Simple and basic exposure if given to school kids can go a long way in "catching 'em young". * Talking to the Engineering college Professors to find out some good projects involving Linux and helping the students to do it.=20 2. Knowledgebase :=20 Members can increase their knowledgebase by interacting with amongst themselves and share each others knowlegde and resources.=20 Many members showed keen interest in learning C under Unix.=20 The various to-do things in near future discussed were -=20 a) Getting an overview of Linux,its potentialities and capabilities.=20 b) Being well versed programming in =91C=92 language on UNIX / LINUX.=20 c) Getting a small network up and running on LINUX totally configured and in working condition.=20 d) Installing ORACLE on linux, and explore database operations on Linux.=20 e) To keep a copy of SUSE linux to experiment with along with RedHat and also copy of the archives of Linux Gazette and Journal CDs which are available with a member.=20 =20 These were the basic plans discussed. However, the members agreed that they needed to involve more people in this effort. And, an active effort needs to be taken in this direction.=20 The Internet Center at Thane College has excellent infrastructure to experiment on Linux Networking. In addition, lot of website develepment takes place at the Center.=20 Footnote :=20 - -------- Dr. Vijay Bedekar has been a driving force for popularising IT in Thane in the Educational Fora. He has requested TLUG to devise ways and means to network schools in Thane and try to develop some kind of school network like US's K-12 system adapted to the Indian scenario. This presents quite a challenge to TLUG. We would like to invite suggestions from all people who have worked on this front. We hope to develop a model using Linux for networking that can perhaps be implemented nationwide. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From dean@bom4.vsnl.net.in Thu Jun 3 10:48:39 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:18:39 +0530 From: "HELP Indore" Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess what do you think this mailing list is for. It looks like the Mailing list FAQ is not being looked at (as usual) before people join the list or before posting to the list. Sorry if I hurt anyone. But u gotto accept the hard fact. Start reading what u ought to read. VaibhaV Sharma webmaster@mgmmc.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Amit To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 6:46 PM Subject: tooo many e-mails on list -I guess > >I guess we we getting technical support emails -on this list or >-I don't know -don't you think -this mailing list is geting >loaded. > >I request -pl. don't send technical mails here -and those good in >Linux -Pl don't ans. these quieres from this list -and discourage >them- > >Thanks - >-Amit > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. >Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read >http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sanjay_chigurupati@flashmail.com Thu Jun 3 11:0:53 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:30:53 +0530 From: sanjay chaudary Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? If I am not mistaken , Prasad had requested config details of users on this list , so that he could start a hardware list. I am yet to send him the details . Prasad , could you post the list of details u wanted once again , Please? Sanjay Arun Sharma wrote: > Also, KD, who manages the website isn't very active on the list. So keeping > such a list on the web site is probably not feasible. If someone else > volunteers to maintain it, we can certainly add a pointer. > -Arun > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sanjay_chigurupati@flashmail.com Thu Jun 3 11:6:21 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:36:21 +0530 From: sanjay chaudary Subject: Re: Reg Intel Processors Then I guess it must be 386 . I read the article 3 - 4 yrs back in EFY, I think. All I remember was Intel achieved a higher speed by providing a cooling fan ( Idea got from normal users) Sorry , cant remember the source accurately . If any1 has the correct information , please provide it . Atul Chitnis wrote: > I doubt that you got this from DQ! If you did, please let me know the issue > and page number - heads will roll! > Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Thu Jun 3 11:36:4 1999 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:36:04 -0400 (EDT) From: rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Subject: GCC in RH 6.0 Funny, I don't find the gcc rpm anywhere ? It is a part of the distro right ? And on a suggestion ... with so many of us now on the net .. should it not help if some of the security gurus there post a little article about linux security .. not on how to break it .. but on how to prevent someone from breaking in ... simple stuff like disabling ccertain services ... installing stuff like cracklib, ssh etc etc.. links to site where this info is available . There seem to be a few companies here which have started linux and they might find the info of help. - - Rohit - --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From munirk@giasbma.vsnl.net.in Thu Jun 3 11:31:4 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:01:04 +0530 From: munir keshwani Subject: help hey got a problem here thanks for the loadlin and vmlinuz it really did work when ever i put the cd in cdrom in linux and give command mount /mnt/cdrom it gives me this error mount:fs type iso 9660 not supported by kernel i have not even given the bash updtpcq i have got a creative 24 x cdrom another thing i opted for everything while installation i used a 900 mb partition for linux now i used 64 for swap and others for native so my partition is full so it says no space i think i will have to delete the partition and create a new one and again reinstall or i will have to remove the french and other versions of linux documentation how do i do it help me - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 12:9:55 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:39:55 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: GCC in RH 6.0 > I don't find the gcc rpm anywhere ? > It is a part of the distro right ? RH6 uses egcs - which in the meanwhile has become the official gcc. So you want egcs*.rpm and compat-egcs*.rpm Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sudhir@netshooter.com Thu Jun 3 12:47:23 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 01:17:23 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra Subject: Re: Web hosting service on Linux Yes, we have what you need. let us know your requirement, and we proceed further. s.goswami wrote: > > Hi there, > I intend to host a site for which I need web hoster on Linux. I need a > server that is good. > I would be glad if anyody could help me in this regards. > Thanx in advance > > P.S: I don't mean a web server (like apache). > :-) Peace, Force & Joy! ============================================================== Sudhir Gandotra "mailto:sudhir@netshooter.com" ICQ-16733832 Phone : 91-11-5535770 / 5613992 / 98-101-20918 ============================================================== " India can be Different, if we are not Indifferent " http://differentindia.org !!! Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You !!! Humanist Movement : http://humanistmovement.org Humanist party : http://humanistparty.org Humanist list:"mailto:humanist-subscribe@makelist.com" ============================================================== - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From vishal128@hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 16:40:22 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:40:22 PDT From: Vishal Rao Subject: DX50? Re: Reg Intel Processors maybe it was one of those 486dx50 cpus (not clock-multiplied!) which had those hi-fi 50mhz FSB motherboards? (in the days when 33mhz FSB and 486dx33 was considered cutting edge?) >From: sanjay chaudary > > Then I guess it must be 386 . I read the article 3 - 4 yrs > >back in EFY, I think. All I remember was Intel achieved a higher > >speed by providing a cooling fan ( Idea got from normal users) > > Sorry , cant remember the source accurately . If any1 has the > > correct information , please provide it . _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Thu Jun 3 0:29:24 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:59:24 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: Please Suggest Networking topology/whatever We have the following setup at our organization: *--Location A (not yet wired-up) | *- Linux Server | *- 5 Win Clients | |(290ft., BNC Cable, already wired-up) | *--Location B - 1 Win/Linux Client | |(100ft., not yet wired) | *--Location C - 3 Win Clients | |(Dialup link) | *--Location D *- Linux server *- 4 Win Clients Here are our objectives: * We want 100MBPS connectivity locally inside Location A,C&D. * The speed of Location A should not be hampered by the BNC conn. to Location B & C. * Win Clients from Location A,B,C smb-logon to Linux Server @ Location A. * Win Clients from Location D smb-logon to Linux Server @ Location D. * If routers are needed, old 486 can be setup for it (not enough $). All Linux machines are RH 5.2, Win Clients are Win98. We are planning for NT WKS 4/5. Please help us maximize our network's performance. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From lakshmianand@vsnl.com Thu Jun 3 17:45:59 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 06:15:59 +0530 From: "Lakshmi Anand K." Subject: Re: Reg Intel Processors I heard that DX chips that had faulty FPU were later branded as SX after disabling the FPU. Prakash Advani wrote: > There was no difference between the 486 SX and DX except that in the SX > the co-processor was disabled internally. It was just an Intel strategy > to have control over the low end market. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From lvgandhi@md3.vsnl.net.in Thu Jun 3 8:48:35 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 21:18:35 +0530 From: "L.V.Gandhi" Subject: Re: Problem with ATI card Ashish Agarwal wrote: > > Hi, > I have a few problems in my installation of Linux, and I hope you all can > help me. I have a AMD K-6 266 with a 4.3 GB HDD and put a partition for > Linux; the other partition having 98. I Installed from the PCQUEST Red hat > 5.2 version. Linux was installed as a workstation. Now there are a couple of > problems, for some reason, there are no HOWTO's there along with the instal > on my machine, it was my understanding that HOWTO's, Apache and a couple of > other services such as PHP were also installed; I don't have any of these. > Could there be some problem with the instal or do I have to do a custom > instal ? Yes. iam afraid that either you have to custom install or sepeartely install needed rpms. - -- L.V.Gandhi MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA http://www.poboxes.com/lvgandhi lvgandhi@poboxes.com, lvgandhi@vsnl.com, 31882656@pager.mirabilis.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prakash@FreeOS.com Thu Jun 3 7:55:24 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:25:24 +0530 From: Prakash Advani Subject: Re: Reg Intel Processors Didn't know about this... Their new strategy is to change motherboard designs completely. Little more than one year back I bought a P133 which was almost a standard at that time. Today when I upgraded I also had to upgrade my motherboard to a slot 1. I also belive that they are going to drop the PII and lower the price of PIII to that level. Atul Chitnis wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Prakash Advani wrote: > > > There was no difference between the 486 SX and DX except that in the SX > > the co-processor was disabled internally. It was just an Intel strategy > > to have control over the low end market. > > Sounds like a pretty major difference to me ;-) > > Actually, the SX was introduced when Intel was unable to make people move > from the 386 to the 486. This wasn't so much strategy as necessity - > people who did not use an 80387 were not keen on paying for the built in > coprocessor in the 486 since there was virtually nothing available in > terms of software to make use of it. This was not Intel's fault - the > guaranteed presence of a math coprocessor actually made life a whole lot > simpler for developers, but until these applications started appearing, > there was resistence to the concept. > > Intel *needed* to move people onto the 486 (for technical and also > commercial reasons), and so they introduced a "low-end" 486 that was > priced almost the same a 386 - making the choice easier. > > But they never did it again - the math coprocessor became a standard > feature of every Intel chip. Too many applications that came along > *required* this capability - a complete reversal of the situation when > Intel introduced the 486sx. ;-) > > Today, Intel no longer has to resort to such things because the > economics of scale actually allow them to price a PIII at the same level > as a highend PII - making the choice for a new purchaser a foregone > conclusion. > > Atul > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -- Prakash Advani http://www.yoom.com/prakash ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: prakash@freeos.com ICQ: 4872876 US Fax: +1 (781) 623-8454 Pager:(9122)96223022222 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.freeos.com - Resource Center for Free Operating Systems - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com Thu Jun 3 20:8:7 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:38:07 +0530 From: Vinay Avasthi Subject: Re: Shifting from SCO to LINUX This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------AEDE779DC3D19E1F8CCF24E6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That should be no problem. VA - ---------------------------------------------------- > Sunil Sarat wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to shift my existing mail serverss(SCO UNIX) to LINUX. Can I copy the passwd/shadow files from SCO to LINUX? (So > that the users > need not change their passwords)? > > Thanks in advance > > Sunil Sarat > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com Thu Jun 3 20:18:41 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:48:41 +0530 From: Vinay Avasthi Subject: Re: PCI modems This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------47D433DBB080AE4122B167AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here is a section of Linux MODEM HOW-TO 4.5. Which Internal Modems are Best to Avoid ? 7 ``Avoid: winmodems'' or the like. They will NOT work at all 7 ``PCI Modems'' seldom work under Linux 7 ``MWave and DSP Modems'' might work, but only if you first start Windows/Dos each time you power on your PC 7 Modems with ``RPI (Rockwell)'' drivers work but with reduced performance It does not say that all the PCI modems will not work, but PCI modems definitly are a problem under Linux. VA - --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Atul Chitnis wrote: > > > >I was told that in general PCI modems have problem in working under > > >linux > > > > Is it true? Can somebody please confirm it? > > Nope, no issues with PCI. Linux loves PCI. Linux hates *WinModems* (which > usually are PCI based), but that doesn't apply to every PCI device, just > WinModems that don't have their own brains and depend on Windows DSP > drivers (that's "brains"???) to work. > > Atul > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Thu Jun 3 20:19:54 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:49:54 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: Minutes of FIRST Meeting of ILUG-Thane -Reply What u plan to do is great..but wont it be much better of joining the LUG-Bombay ? I too live in Thane, but LUG-B will give u the opportunity to meet many more people and do things on a larger scale. And anyway, your initiatives in Thane could continue even when you are part of the Bombay list. What say ?? ciao, amit >>> Harshal Jawale 06/03/99 10:53pm >>> Minutes of FIRST Meeting of Thane-LUG -------------------------------------- Date : Sunday, May 30, 1999 Time : 9:30 pm - 10:30 pm Venue : Internet Center, Thane College. Participants : Chetan Kelkar Ranjeet Walunj Manoj Pethe Suyash Apte Harshal Jawale Introduction : - ------------ This was the first meeting called by Indian Linux User Group - Thane aka Thane-Linuxers (T-Linuxers) to discuss ways and means to promote Linux in the yet unchartered sprawling metropolis of Thane. (Thane is a city some 30 kms away from Mumbai and is known for its lakes.) It was heartening to see 5 enthu guys turning up at 9:30pm on a Sunday night after a World Cup cricket match !!! T-Linuxers started off as a Mailing List on eGroups.com and has become a rallying point for enthusiastic linuxers in Thane. At present, there are about 10 members. Since, the Engg. exams are presently going on, many non-member folks are unable to whole-heartedly participate in the activities. Minutes of Meeting : - ------------------ The meeting was called to order by Harshal who invited the members to contribute ideas on ways to promote Linux in Thane. The members agreed on two overlying guiding principles for T-Linuxers : 1. Spreading Linux Awareness in Thane. 2. Improving Linux Knowledge-base of T-Linuxers. 1. Awareness : The members felt that Linux Awareness is still in its infancy in Thane. The potential of Linux is still unknown amongst most Thaneites. So the first and basic aim will be to increase awareness in the society about linux and computers in general. The multi-pronged strategy includes * Giving free help to folks who want to install Linux, contacting schools and colleges as well some Computer Education Institutes known to the members where free demonstrations on Linux installation can be given. Simple and basic exposure if given to school kids can go a long way in "catching 'em young". * Talking to the Engineering college Professors to find out some good projects involving Linux and helping the students to do it. 2. Knowledgebase : Members can increase their knowledgebase by interacting with amongst themselves and share each others knowlegde and resources. Many members showed keen interest in learning C under Unix. The various to-do things in near future discussed were - a) Getting an overview of Linux,its potentialities and capabilities. b) Being well versed programming in *C* language on UNIX / LINUX. c) Getting a small network up and running on LINUX totally configured and in working condition. d) Installing ORACLE on linux, and explore database operations on Linux. e) To keep a copy of SUSE linux to experiment with along with RedHat and also copy of the archives of Linux Gazette and Journal CDs which are available with a member. These were the basic plans discussed. However, the members agreed that they needed to involve more people in this effort. And, an active effort needs to be taken in this direction. The Internet Center at Thane College has excellent infrastructure to experiment on Linux Networking. In addition, lot of website develepment takes place at the Center. Footnote : - -------- Dr. Vijay Bedekar has been a driving force for popularising IT in Thane in the Educational Fora. He has requested TLUG to devise ways and means to network schools in Thane and try to develop some kind of school network like US's K-12 system adapted to the Indian scenario. This presents quite a challenge to TLUG. We would like to invite suggestions from all people who have worked on this front. We hope to develop a model using Linux for networking that can perhaps be implemented nationwide. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Thu Jun 3 21:5:1 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:05:01 -0400 (EDT) From: rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com Subject: which RPM for this lib. Hi, My rh 6.0 system doesn"t seem to have libsocket.so. is there a way for me to find out which rpm contains this lib ... other than actaully running a rpm -qpl . I tried a web search, but it says this lib is a part of the ibcs2..rpm which comes with the suse distro .. ??? Ealier when i had installed rh 5.2, this lib was there, and i chose nearly the same stuff to install as i dd with rh 6.0 .... Any idea where libsocket.so could be .. ? TIA, - - Rohit - --------------------------------------------------- Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #26 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From raju@sgi.com Thu Jun 3 21:44:12 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:14:12 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: help >>>>> "Munir" == munir keshwani writes: Munir> hey got a problem here thanks for the loadlin and vmlinuz Munir> it really did work when ever i put the cd in cdrom in linux Munir> and give command mount /mnt/cdrom it gives me this error Munir> mount:fs type iso 9660 not supported by kernel i have not Munir> even given the bash updtpcq iso9660 is probably compiled as a module. To use it, run the following commands as root before mounting the CD: depmod -a modprobe iso9660 If kerneld is enabled in the kernel (will some PCQ-type person please confirm?), the depmod -a should be enough, since the kernel will then load modules automatically. In case the module is not compiled (i.e. if the command "find /lib/modules | fgrep -i iso9660" doesn't give any output), you'll need to recompile your kernel. Read the Kernel-HOWTO. Munir> i have got a creative 24 x cdrom another thing i opted for Munir> everything while installation i used a 900 mb partition for Munir> linux now i used 64 for swap and others for native so my Munir> partition is full so it says no space i think i will have Munir> to delete the partition and create a new one and again Munir> reinstall or i will have to remove the french and other Munir> versions of linux documentation how do i do it Try this: cd /var/log for i in * ; do if [ -f $i ] ; then > $i ; fi ; done and see how much space you free up. Use "df" to check free space on the disk, "du" to check how much space a directory and it's subdirectories take up. 900MB is a lot of space, you shouldn't be running out unless you install a lot of stuff. Munir> help me Regards, - -- Raju - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prasadb@sol.net.in Thu Jun 3 22:25:8 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:55:08 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? sanjay chaudary wrote: > > If I am not mistaken , Prasad had requested config details of > users > on this list , so that he could start a hardware list. > > I am yet to send him the details . Prasad , could you post > the > list of details u wanted once again , Please? The response to my query was very lukewarm and I hardly got 5-10 replies. I have put these in HTML format , but I cannot maintain it. I am willing to give the data which I have to anyone who can put it on a web site. Also, maybe we need some web based form , so people can add new hardware easily. Thanks - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prasadb@sol.net.in Thu Jun 3 22:28:0 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:58:00 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: System is halted Arun Sharma wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 06:51:25PM +0530, prasad wrote: > > Small question - why does the "System is halted" message > > get displayed twice (I am using RH 5.x) , when I do > > a 'shutdown -h now'? Actually, there are two different messages - first one gets a "System is halted" and then "System Halted". I have noticed it on all RH installs. I will go through the rc scripts, someday, sometime and investigate, unless some guru already knows the answer. - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From manasg@inf.com Thu Jun 3 22:39:2 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:09:02 +0530 (IST) From: manas garg Subject: Re: help On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, munir keshwani wrote: > i used a 900 mb partition for linux > now i used 64 for swap and others for native so my partition is full so it > says no space i think i will have to delete the partition and create a new > one and again reinstall or i will have to remove the french and other > versions of linux documentation how do i do it Run pcqupdt. It will remove the docs of other languages. Moreover, though you have installed all the things, it's highly unlikely that you will need most of it. Launch glint and remove all the packages that you don't require (you may find many of them). Manas - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Thu Jun 3 22:39:42 1999 Date: 03 Jun 1999 22:39:42 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: System is halted prasad writes: > Arun Sharma wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 01, 1999 at 06:51:25PM +0530, prasad wrote: > > > Small question - why does the "System is halted" message > > > get displayed twice (I am using RH 5.x) , when I do > > > a 'shutdown -h now'? > > Actually, there are two different messages - first one > gets a "System is halted" and then "System Halted". I have > noticed it on all RH installs. I will go through > the rc scripts, someday, sometime and investigate, unless some > guru already knows the answer. > Looks like I'm the guru you're looking for :-) System is halted - comes from /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt It makes a reboot system call, which makes the kernel print "System halted" to the console. See /usr/src/linux/kernel/sys.c. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From chetansk@wipinfo.soft.net Thu Jun 3 23:4:37 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:34:37 +0530 (IST) From: Chetan Kumar Subject: Re: LPD probs On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, AMIT KUCHERIA wrote: > Hi all, > > I have RH5.2. When i installed it, my lpd was running fine, meaning, i was > able to print to a remote HP laserjet printer on our network. > > Now i cant. Though lpd is started, it does not stay that way. Sorry I could not get it, what do Y mean it does not stay that. Is lpd deamon running, you can check with telnet 0 515 - -Chetan S > What could be the problem ? > > TIA > ciao, > amit > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From asatsi@hotmail.com Thu Jun 3 23:33:36 1999 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:33:36 PDT From: Satish Pagare Subject: Re: which RPM for this lib. Hi, I guess u want to do socket programming ... so the libsocket is a part of libc only so u dont need to -lsocket for a socketed program ... but for inet functions ull hv to link nsl -lnsl .. Satish/ > >My rh 6.0 system doesn"t seem to have libsocket.so. >is there a way for me to find out which rpm contains this lib ... other >than actaully running a rpm -qpl . > >I tried a web search, but it says this lib is a part of the ibcs2..rpm >which comes with the suse distro .. ??? > >Ealier when i had installed rh 5.2, this lib was there, and i chose nearly >the same stuff to install as i dd with rh 6.0 .... >Any idea where libsocket.so could be .. ? > >TIA, > >- Rohit > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >Get free personalized email at http://www.iname.com > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. >Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 23:45:44 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:15:44 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: PCI modems > 7 ``PCI Modems'' seldom work under Linux > > It does not say that all the PCI modems will not work, but PCI modems > definitly are a problem > under Linux. This is a generalisation I find difficult to accept. It is like saying "PCI display cards seldom work under Linux". That may have been true before, but not now. Whoever wrote that statement wasn't thinking right. PCI is an interface like AGP and ISA. All three are supported under Linux. PCI and AGP support, being newer, is still slightly "raw", but it is getting there. On bootup, the machine initialises the PCI cards and Linux can easily query the cards for their configs. Modems are actually the easiest of devices to address once you know the IO address and IRQ are known. The issue arises if the modem is a *WinModem*. These nasty devices don't have any brains at all (you cannot write an "AT" to them and expect to get back an "OK"). The other issue is high-memory addresses - this is not a problem with the modem - it is a problem with Linux (just like the 2 GB file size limit) that is being worked on and will be fixed real soon now. The real test here is - if the PCI modem assigns an IO address in 0x[32][FE]8 and the IRQ somewhere under 15, it will happily work with current Linux versions. If it uses high/shared addresses, it will not work today, but *will* work as soon as the kernel developers get around to addressing this issue (they have to - hardwired address ranges are a historical anomaly like the 640K RAM limit). Generalising that all PCI Modems seldom work with Linux is an unqualified and unconditional statement that is bound to cause problems not in the future, but right now, where motherboards are beginning to appear without ISA slots, and all future devices will be either USB/FireWire or PCI based. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 23:45:42 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:15:42 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: Reg Intel Processors > Their new strategy is to change motherboard designs completely. Little > more than one year back I bought a P133 which was almost a standard at > that time. Today when I upgraded I also had to upgrade my motherboard to > a slot 1. The Slot 1 has actually been around for quite a while. Even AMD and Cyrix admit that Socket 7 has gone about as far as it could. The "strategy" of changing motherboard designs does not come from Intel - it comes from motherboard designers. The PII motherboards Intel brought out are remarkably similar to the P1's they had earlier - apart from Slot 1, of course. Slot 1 *was* required because the aging Socket 7 just had gone as far as it could. Socket 7 has been around for more than a decade, and technology has advanced way beyond its capabilities. There is nothing wrong with continuing to use the P133, but if you want to move from a country road to an autobahn, you need to change tires. ;-) > I also belive that they are going to drop the PII and lower the price of > PIII to that level. That's already history - here in Bangalore, a PIII now costs less than a high end PII used to cost. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Thu Jun 3 23:51:23 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:21:23 +0530 From: "Atul Chitnis" Subject: RE: help > If kerneld is enabled in the kernel (will some PCQ-type person please > confirm?), the depmod -a should be enough, since the kernel will then > load modules automatically. What does this have to do with PCQ? ;-) Nothing was changed in the distro! Kerneld is in the default kernel that was installed. However, if someone has recompiled the kernel - no such guarantees. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sunil@nicfos.ernet.in Fri Jun 4 0:10:51 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:40:51 +0530 From: Sunil Sarat Subject: NIS problems Hi, I've got one NIS server running on Linux (version 1.3.3 with tcp wrapper). It is configured as master server. On one more linux machine I've tried configuring NIS slave. On this machine ypbind (version 3.3) is running When I try to issue the command ypwhich, I get the error message "can't yp-bind RPC failure on NIS operation" Also when I try ypcat passwd, nothing gets displayed Portmapper is running on both the the machines. My yp.conf file on the slave machine looks like this ypserer 192.168.12.12 Can any one kindly bail me out Thanks in Advance Sunil Sarat - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From jns_7@mailcity.com Fri Jun 4 0:45:49 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:45:49 -0700 From: "subrahmanyam jiddu" Subject: sites for linux internals Dear friends, I would like to know the various sites in which I can get information regarding the internals of linux i.e., at the OS level. 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If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sunil_sumanth@mentorg.com Fri Jun 4 1:6:24 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:36:24 +0530 From: sunil sumanth Subject: Re: GCC in RH 6.0 Hi Rohit, > And on a suggestion ... with so many of us now on the net .. should it not help if some of the security gurus there post a little article about linux security .. not on how to break it .. but on how to prevent someone from breaking in ... simple stuff like disabling ccertain services ... installing stuff like cracklib, ssh etc etc.. links to site where this info is available . Look at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO.html - -sunil - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From Vinay_Avasthi-A12733@email.mot.com Fri Jun 4 1:12:21 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 13:42:21 +0530 From: Vinay Avasthi Subject: Re: PCI modems This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------8FC1A6E25B3EE2470F71FAB2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Atul Chitnis wrote: > > > 7 ``PCI Modems'' seldom work under Linux > > > > It does not say that all the PCI modems will not work, but PCI modems > > definitly are a problem > > under Linux. > > This is a generalisation I find difficult to accept. It is like saying "PCI > display cards seldom work under Linux". That may have been true before, but > not now. Whoever wrote that statement wasn't thinking right. ..Snip.. I did not sya this. I just referred the MODEM HOW-TO on Linux Documentation Project website and gave you a section from there. The fact of the matter is that some of the PCI modems may work with linux but there are many which do not. I know for sure that Rockwell modem that is shipped with Compaq Presarios does not work. My point is that best bet may be an ISA internal modem or external modem which will always work. VA > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From suma.r@tatainfotech.com Fri Jun 4 1:20:32 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:50:32 +0530 (IST) From: SUMA R Subject: imapd !!! Hi, After my user read mails thru an imap client in my mail server the permissions of their inbox gets changed from "-rw-rw----" to "-rw-------". Even if i change their inbox permissions back to the original one , making the next imap connection to my mail server, changes my users inbox permissions again to "-rw-------" . What could be the problem ? regards, suma - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From kousik.bera@tcs.tcpn.com Fri Jun 4 1:33:0 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:03:00 +0530 From: Kousik Bera Subject: Query: Regarding max filename length Hi All, I am forwarding a query from a friend, who is working in OSS dev. In the file /usr/include/posix1_lim.h the filename limit is specified as 14. #define _POSIX_NAME_MAX 14 But I was successfull in creating a file with filename > 14 chars. How is this possible? If this is not the forum to ask this question, plz let me know the correct mailing list addr. TIA, Kousik - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------AA44260388C5091E84203F46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is what the permissions for mail folders are supposed to be. Probably your imapclient is changing them back for security reasons. VA - ---------------------------------------------- > SUMA R wrote: > > Hi, > After my user read mails thru an imap client in my mail server > the permissions of their inbox gets changed from "-rw-rw----" to > "-rw-------". Even if i change their inbox permissions back to the > original one , making the next imap connection to my mail server, changes > my users inbox permissions again to "-rw-------" . What could be the > problem ? > > regards, > suma > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Fri Jun 4 2:29:37 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:59:37 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: FreeBSD vs Linux, info. needed >>>>> "Hariharan" == Hariharan Narayanan writes: Hariharan> Hello, Could anybody point me to pages that compare Hariharan> FreeBSD and Linux. That is any article that answers the Hariharan> question "why should you one prefer Linux over FreeBSD Hariharan> or vice-versa?" I also want to know if FreeBSD follows Hariharan> the GPL license. And lastly is minix a variant of Hariharan> FreeBSD? TIA, Hari. I'd sent a mail some time back which listed a site which compared various Unix versions and NT. Look at the archives, or send me a mail if you can't find it so I can get off my fat a** and do the work again to look for it. Minix is a minimal Unix clone written by Andy Tanenbaum. It's mostly an academic OS, I don't know anyone who uses it for real work. Regards, - -- Raju - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From hdoshi@cal2.vsnl.net.in Fri Jun 4 2:42:21 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:12:21 +0530 From: Rutvik Doshi Subject: Re: Sound card problem This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------5289FC7414E0650165C78113 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Even i have a HCL busybee 2000 system and had i known before hand that they give an unsupported card like that Aztech2320 sound card..i would have asked them to give me a soundblaster... To make your card work don't disable the pnp from the /etc/rc.d/... check out the IRQ and the DMA setting from a win95 configuration if you have access to win95 in your m/c...you can get that rom the Control Panel -> system -> device manager - > sound , game , video controllers -> resources under the sound card.. In my case the settings are as following.. IO range : Ox240h IRQ : 5 DMA0 : 1 DMA1 : 0 I'm also including my isapnp.conf file along with this mail If you have the same settings and don't have anyother pnp devices you can use the same one..Configure your card using sndconfig as "soundBlaster 16".. This should work but only one problem the card will work only in 8-but mode...It doesn't work in 16 bit mode. See if you can make it work in the 16 bit mode.. If you can pls tell me how you did it... bye rutvik "L.V.Gandhi" wrote: > Rutvik Doshi wrote: > > > Hi > > even i've a Aztech2320 sound card and i faced simmilar problems as you are > > facing..The sound card needs to be initialized using the isapnp tools...setup the > > correct IRQ and DMA settings in the /etc/isapnp.conf file . This will initialize > > your Aztech2320 card b'for the sound modules are loaded...But even afer lot of > > tweaking around i've not managed to get it work in the 16bit mode.. it works > > only in the 8 bit mode...so i can't play the mp3 files using x11amp.It will be > > highly appreciated if anybody can help me configure it so that i can make it work > > in the 16 bit mode...I've RH 5.2 running kernel 2.2.and i've tried out all the > > availablre optionn in sndconfig > > I have tried pnpdump and did all possible including disabling pnp > configure in /etc/rc.d/sysinit. Still iget the device or resource busy > msg after configuring and playing sample soundfile. I will be grateful > if you can send me your /etc/isapnp.conf file. I think You are also > having the same system given by HCL (PII 266 Busybee 2000). > > -- > L.V.Gandhi > MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA > http://www.poboxes.com/lvgandhi lvgandhi@poboxes.com, > lvgandhi@vsnl.com, 31882656@pager.mirabilis.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the > words 'unsubscribe linux-india' (without the quotes) in the body of the > email. - --------------5289FC7414E0650165C78113 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="isapnp.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="isapnp.conf" # $Id: pnpdump.c,v 1.10 1997/07/14 22:30:47 fox Exp $ # This is free software, see the sources for details. # This software has NO WARRANTY, use at your OWN RISK # # For details of this file format, see isapnp.conf(5) # # For latest information on isapnp and pnpdump see: # http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ # # Compiler flags: -DREALTIME -DNEEDSETSCHEDULER # # Trying port address 0203 # Board 1 has serial identifier b7 00 00 00 03 20 23 54 07 # (DEBUG) (READPORT 0x020b) (ISOLATE) (IDENTIFY *) (VERIFYLD N) # Card 1: (serial identifier b7 00 00 00 03 20 23 54 07) # AZT2320 Serial No 3 [checksum b7] # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.2 # ANSI string -->AZT2320 PnP SOUND DEVICE<-- # # Logical device id AZT0000 # Device support I/O range check register # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE AZT2320/3 (LD 0 # ANSI string -->IDE CDROM # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x01e8 # Maximum IO base address 0x01e8 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 (IO 0 (BASE 0x01e8)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x03ee # Maximum IO base address 0x03ee # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 (IO 1 (BASE 0x03ee)) # IRQ 11. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (INT 0 (IRQ 11 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0168 # Maximum IO base address 0x0168 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0168)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x036e # Maximum IO base address 0x036e # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x036e)) # IRQ 10. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0170 # Maximum IO base address 0x0170 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0170)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0376 # Maximum IO base address 0x0376 # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x0376)) # IRQ 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 15 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03f8 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03fe # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x0100)) # IRQ 5, 9, 10, 11 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # End dependent functions # (ACT Y) )) # # Logical device id AZT0001 # Device support I/O range check register # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE AZT2320/3 (LD 1 # ANSI string -->AUDIO # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0220 # Maximum IO base address 0x0220 # IO base alignment 16 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0240)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0388 # Maximum IO base address 0x0388 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 (IO 1 (BASE 0x0388)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0534 # Maximum IO base address 0x0534 # IO base alignment 4 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 (IO 2 (BASE 0x0608)) # IRQ 5. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # First DMA channel 1. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) # Next DMA channel 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0220 # Maximum IO base address 0x0240 # IO base alignment 32 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0388 # Maximum IO base address 0x0388 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x0388)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0534 # Maximum IO base address 0x0608 # IO base alignment 212 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 # (IO 2 (BASE 0x0534)) # IRQ 5, 9 or 10. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0)) # Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0220 # Maximum IO base address 0x0240 # IO base alignment 32 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0240)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0388 # Maximum IO base address 0x0388 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x0388)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0e84 # Maximum IO base address 0x0f44 # IO base alignment 192 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 # (IO 2 (BASE 0x0608)) # IRQ 5, 9 or 10. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E))) # First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) # Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03f0 # IO base alignment 16 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03f8 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x0100)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x0ffc # IO base alignment 4 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 # (IO 2 (BASE 0x0100)) # IRQ 5, 9, 10, 11 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0)) # Next DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 0)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03f0 # IO base alignment 16 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 16 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03f8 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 1 (BASE 0x0100)) # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x0ffc # IO base alignment 4 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 4 # (IO 2 (BASE 0x0100)) # IRQ 5, 9, 10, 11 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # First DMA channel 0, 1 or 3. # 8 bit DMA only # Logical device is not a bus master # DMA may execute in count by byte mode # DMA may not execute in count by word mode # DMA channel speed in compatible mode # (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 0)) # End dependent functions (ACT Y) )) # # Logical device id AZT0002 # Device support I/O range check register # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE AZT2320/3 (LD 2 # ANSI string -->MPU401 MIDI # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0330 # Maximum IO base address 0x0330 # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0330)) # IRQ 9. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt (INT 0 (IRQ 9 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0300 # Maximum IO base address 0x0330 # IO base alignment 48 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0300)) # IRQ 5, 9, 10, 11 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03fe # IO base alignment 2 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 2 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) # IRQ 5, 9, 10, 11 or 15. # High true, edge sensitive interrupt # (INT 0 (IRQ 5 (MODE +E))) # End dependent functions (ACT Y) )) # # Logical device id AZT0003 # Device support I/O range check register # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE AZT2320/3 (LD 3 # ANSI string -->GAME PORT # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0200 # Maximum IO base address 0x0200 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0200)) # Start dependent functions: priority acceptable # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03f8 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 8 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) # End dependent functions (ACT Y) )) # # Logical device id AZT0004 # Device support I/O range check register # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE AZT2320/3 (LD 4 # ANSI string -->MODEM DISABLED # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0000 # Maximum IO base address 0x0000 # IO base alignment 8 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 0 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0000)) # *** ERROR *** No IRQ specified! # End dependent functions # (ACT Y) )) # # Logical device id AZT0005 # Device support I/O range check register # # Edit the entries below to uncomment out the configuration required. # Note that only the first value of any range is given, this may be changed if required # Don't forget to uncomment the activate (ACT Y) when happy (CONFIGURE AZT2320/3 (LD 5 # ANSI string -->EEPROM # Multiple choice time, choose one only ! # Start dependent functions: priority preferred # Logical device decodes 16 bit IO address lines # Minimum IO base address 0x0100 # Maximum IO base address 0x03ff # IO base alignment 1 bytes # Number of IO addresses required: 1 # (IO 0 (BASE 0x0100)) # End dependent functions # (ACT Y) )) # End tag... Checksum 0x00 (OK) # Returns all cards to the "Wait for Key" state (WAITFORKEY) - --------------5289FC7414E0650165C78113-- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #27 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From sunil@nicfos.ernet.in Fri Jun 4 1:42:27 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:12:27 +0530 From: Sunil Sarat Subject: PDF files Hi How to read PDF files in LINUX? Thanks in advance Sunil Sarat - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From lewis@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in Fri Jun 4 8:31:40 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:01:40 +0530 From: "Craig Lewis" Subject: Re: help Use the vmlinuz from your linux installation and not the one on the CD. Regards, Craig - -----Original Message----- From: munir keshwani To: Linux (E-mail) Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 1:05 AM Subject: help >hey got a problem here thanks for the loadlin and vmlinuz it really did >work >when ever i put the cd in cdrom in linux and give command >mount /mnt/cdrom it gives me this error >mount:fs type iso 9660 not supported by kernel - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Fri Jun 4 8:31:46 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:01:46 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: PDF files > How to read PDF files in LINUX? use xpdf or download teh Adobe Acrobat reader for Linux (also to be found on some PCQ CDs). Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From nirmalkej@usa.net Fri Jun 4 7:39:22 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:39:22 +0500 From: Nirmal Kejriwal Subject: Re: Xi Graphics avail in India ?? > >The response to my query was very lukewarm and I hardly >got 5-10 replies. I have put these in HTML format , but I >cannot maintain it. I am willing to give the data which >I have to anyone who can put it on a web site. Also, maybe we >need some web based form , so people can add new hardware easily. > I am willing to maintain it if I have the data. Nirmal - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From cvr@md2.vsnl.net.in Fri Jun 4 8:47:33 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:17:33 +0530 (IST) From: RADHAKRISHNAN C V Subject: Re: PDF files On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Sunil Sarat wrote: > Hi > > How to read PDF files in LINUX? use acrobat reader. it's free and can be downloaded from http://www.adobe.com but, PCQuest CDs often carry acrobat reader for linux. alternatively, you can also use ghostscript. the older versions do not support links, but ver. 5.50 supports. radhakrishnan - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From agupta@cyberspace.org Fri Jun 4 6:21:55 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Anshul Gupta Subject: Inetrnet Problem Hi all, It is the problem regarding internet connection. Whennever i connect to the net, the connection closes after 1-2 minutes saying pppd daemon died unexpectedly. Also how can we optimise the connection speed. In linux the MTU is set to 1500 by default. How can i change it. Also r there any other parameters that should be changed for optimising connection speed ? Thanx in advance, - -anshul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sp_sarathy@iname.com Fri Jun 4 6:56:15 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:26:15 +0530 (IST) From: Parthasarathy Sundararajan Subject: KPPP Problems... Hi all, I using RH ver 5.2 (PCQ Distribution!). KPPP had been running fine for the past 5 days (since installation!) and today when I load KPPP (from kDE) I get the following error message : "This kernel has no PPP support neither compiled in nor via the kernel module loader. To solve this problem, contact the systems administrator or install a kernel with PPP support" Pls note that I was able to send/recv mails (connect to Internet) before this error. Pls help Regards - - Partha - --------------------------------------------------------------- Act as though it were impossible to fail - --------------------------------------------------------------- Parthasarathy Sundararajan India - -------------------------------- Email : sp_sarathy@iname.com Web : http://www.pradam.com http://www.grecoaching.com http://www.indianstudents.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prasadb@sol.net.in Fri Jun 4 4:51:33 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:21:33 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: System is halted > System is halted - comes from /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt > > It makes a reboot system call, which makes the kernel print "System > halted" to the console. See /usr/src/linux/kernel/sys.c. Yep, this is how it is. Minor mod - /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt is printing "System is halted" and then calls /sbin/halt, which makes the reboot call (with a certain flag), which prints the second mesg. More info - man 2 reboot. Tks! - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prasadb@sol.net.in Fri Jun 4 4:40:38 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:10:38 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: Linux compatibility ... Atul Chitnis wrote: > A related example - when Alan Cox ported Linux to the Apple Macintosh 68K > platform, he got the kernel running, and then was able to run *unmodified* > binaries from the Amiga (also 68K) Linux platform. Very true. Since the ABI is the same , the syscall interface is the same. As Unix style programs are well behaved, we could run quite a few programs this way. In fact, I suppose iBCS must depend on this to get SCO binaries to work on Linux. - - Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From prasadb@sol.net.in Fri Jun 4 4:22:19 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:52:19 +0530 From: prasad Subject: Re: Reg Intel Processors > There is nothing wrong with continuing to use the P133, but if you want to > move from a country road to an autobahn, you need to change tires. ;-) Another Linux veteran gets taken in by controlled obsolesence! The autobahn doesn't really change every year , and poor little mid-80's Volkswagens run good. No way compare it with a 1999 S-Class, but do I need to pay those big DMs for going from Point A to Point B, even on the Infobahn? You need not upgrade unless you feel the need to. I am pretty sure I will be running my nearly 2 yrs old AMD K6 for at least 1 more year, if not more, because it does all I want and is remarkably stable. Intel's tactics are not that much different from MS! Actually , WinTel's really a good "you scratch my back , I scratch yours" relationship. I believe that people have got too spoilt my high clock speeds and have stopped thinking enough about efficiency issues or bloat. This is more true of LoseDows users , but parts of our world are getting there too! - -Prasad - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Fri Jun 4 8:58:34 1999 Date: 04 Jun 1999 08:58:34 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: imapd !!! SUMA R writes: > Hi, > After my user read mails thru an imap client in my mail server > the permissions of their inbox gets changed from "-rw-rw----" to > "-rw-------". Even if i change their inbox permissions back to the > original one , making the next imap connection to my mail server, changes > my users inbox permissions again to "-rw-------" . What could be the > problem ? > What is the umask for the user ? man umask. Type umask. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From agupta@cyberspace.org Fri Jun 4 6:19:39 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:19:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Anshul Gupta Subject: Network Configuration Problem Hi all, I have installed Lan Card. I have given the following in the options, IP :- 192.156.141.100 Host :- linux Domain :- cyberworld.com gateway :- 192.156.141.100 primary name server :- 202.54.1.30 secondary name server :- 202.54.1.18 tertiary name server :- Actually i wanted that address 192.156.141.100 should become IP of my host machine. When started linux for the first time, it didn't responded after starting sendmail daemon. Is it because of some wrong config. How can the problem be solved ? waiting for reply, - -anshul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Fri Jun 4 9:16:26 1999 Date: 04 Jun 1999 09:16:26 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: NIS problems Sunil Sarat writes: > Hi, > > I've got one NIS server running on Linux (version 1.3.3 with tcp wrapper). It > is configured as master server. > > On one more linux machine I've tried configuring NIS slave. On this machine > ypbind (version 3.3) is running > When I try to issue the command ypwhich, I get the error message > "can't yp-bind RPC failure on NIS operation" > Also when I try ypcat passwd, nothing gets displayed > Follow the NIS-HOWTO verbatim. 1. Has your domainname been set ? 2. Have you run /var/yp/Makefile on the server ? 3. Do you have ypbind running on both the server and the client ? -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From s_kashya@alcor.concordia.ca Fri Jun 4 10:21:50 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:21:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Siddharth Subject: Re: PCI modems So, which kind of Internal, and External modems work well with Linux?? Thanks, Siddharth. On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Vinay Avasthi wrote: > Here is a section of Linux MODEM HOW-TO > > 4.5. Which Internal Modems are Best to Avoid ? > > 7 ``Avoid: winmodems'' or the like. They will NOT work at all > > 7 ``PCI Modems'' seldom work under Linux > > 7 ``MWave and DSP Modems'' might work, but only if you first start > Windows/Dos each time you power on your PC > > 7 Modems with ``RPI (Rockwell)'' drivers work but with reduced > performance > > It does not say that all the PCI modems will not work, but PCI modems > definitly are a problem > under Linux. > > VA > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Atul Chitnis wrote: > > > > > >I was told that in general PCI modems have problem in working under > > > >linux > > > > > > Is it true? Can somebody please confirm it? > > > > Nope, no issues with PCI. Linux loves PCI. Linux hates *WinModems* (which > > usually are PCI based), but that doesn't apply to every PCI device, just > > WinModems that don't have their own brains and depend on Windows DSP > > drivers (that's "brains"???) to work. > > > > Atul > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From vsashok@tifr.res.in Fri Jun 4 10:37:1 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:07:01 +0530 (IST) From: V S Ashoka Subject: Re: PDF files Download Adobe acrobat from www.adobe.com Ghostview also reads On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Sunil Sarat wrote: > Hi > > How to read PDF files in LINUX? > > Thanks in advance > > Sunil Sarat > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Fri Jun 4 9:29:40 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:59:40 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: X on remote system Hye , I have 2 systems on a lan and I want to run Xwindows on the remote system from the other. I want the remote system to use my xserver and also my audio . I have root permissions on both my machines and obviously both are dedicated machines running linux Rh5.2 How can this be done ??? What bandwidth of data connection between the two machines would be required to run a usable x session ??? Guys please bail me out soon. This is urgent Regards .... Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From ideas@india.com Fri Jun 4 3:36:45 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:06:45 +0530 From: Amit Subject: Re: tooo many e-mails on list Please excuse me for the email asking "to stop sending technical emails." Please ignore that and contnue working. (It was a ,misunderstanding -as U might be able to make it from my second mail) Thanks - -Amit (and now I am in india-linux-general mailing list.) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sharadj@wipinfo.soft.net Fri Jun 4 3:55:31 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:25:31 +0530 (IST) From: Sharad Joshi Subject: Re: sites for linux internals i've compiled some links at http://members.tripod.com/darash/links.html which you might find helpful (mind you, i've not put the most common ones there). Sharad. On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, subrahmanyam jiddu wrote: + Dear friends, + I would like to know the various sites in which I can get information + regarding the internals of linux i.e., at the OS level. + - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sharadj@wipinfo.soft.net Fri Jun 4 4:18:34 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:48:34 +0530 (IST) From: Sharad Joshi Subject: Re: GCC in RH 6.0 On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, sunil sumanth wrote: + Hi Rohit, + + + > And on a suggestion ... with so many of us now on the net .. should it not + help if some of the security gurus there post a little article about + linux security .. not on how to break it .. but on how to prevent + someone from breaking in ... simple stuff like disabling ccertain + services ... installing stuff like cracklib, ssh etc etc.. links to + site where this info is available . + + Look at + + http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO.html If you are really interested in security thing, peep http://www.telstra.com.au/pub/docs/security/ 'has excellent papers on security. Read specially the one by Dan Farmer and Wietse Venema -- "Improving the Security of Your Site by Breaking Into it" Also see http://www.fish.com/survey/papers.html Sharad. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Fri Jun 4 11:9:16 1999 Date: 04 Jun 1999 11:09:16 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, info. needed Hariharan Narayanan writes: Warning: This topic tends to be very explosive on some parts of the net. So please be advised. > Hello, > Could anybody point me to pages that compare FreeBSD and Linux. That > is any article that answers the question "why should you one prefer > Linux over FreeBSD or vice-versa?" I haven't seen very many pages advocating Linux over FreeBSD - because it's not necessary. Linux is already successful. But it's easy to bump into pages advocating FreeBSD: http://advocacy.freebsd.org/ http://www.freebsdrocks.com/ http://www.freebsdzine.org/ http://www.daemonnews.org/ http://www.freebsddiary.com/freebsd/ > I also want to know if FreeBSD follows the GPL license. No, it doesn't. It follows a modified BSD license called the FreeBSD license. http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/copyright.html > And lastly is minix a variant of FreeBSD? No. People who've made it this far in the mail, are probably curious. Since I went out on a fact finding mission myself, let me share my experiences. FreeBSD is the proverbial cathedral. Unlike Linux, there is no one center of power. There is something called a "core" group, which manages development. There is a little more discipline, stricter coding standards, reluctance for rapid change. But once you stick X+KDE on top of FreeBSD, you can't tell a FreeBSD box from a Linux box. The differences are visible when it comes to hardware support. The driver set is smaller. If you're a kernel hacker, then FreeBSD is definitely interesting: - It has a great book (4.4 BSD book by McKusick et al) that goes into a lot of detail. - Parts of FreeBSD (esp VM) are based on Mach, a research OS of the mid 80s. FreeBSD is also more receptive to commercial ventures, because of a license which allows mixing open source with closed software. On the negative side, you won't find as much free tech support, support for common PC hardware and general awareness as Linux. Bottomline: If you are a person who wants an OS to get your job done, Linux is good enough for you. But if you're a hobbyist, who wants to explore and learn, FreeBSD might be interesting. Cheapbytes has sampler CDs. -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From ghins@accord-soft.com Fri Jun 4 2:0:15 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:30:15 +0530 From: Ghins Mathai Subject: Re: Playing VCD with xanim Satish Pagare wrote: > Yeah that's true ... Coz the audio CD format on the CD's is not > in mpeg format, if u rip O.K, mebbe I am still in the stone age, but, Somebody please tell me what CD ripping is all about ;-( I guess it means extracting wav files from an audio CD. In that case please let me know how to do this. > those CDs you will get wav files out of it. > > <>-- > Thanks in Advance > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From muthu811@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in Fri Jun 4 12:53:49 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:23:49 +0530 From: "Muthu" Subject: Compilation error. Hello Everybody, I have a Slackware 3.5 machine. When I compile(using cc or gcc) a small C program using the "-l" (Since I am using include file in the program> option, it is giving the following two line error. "/usr/i586-pc-linux-gnulibc1/bin/ld: Cannot open -l-lgcc: No such file or directory Collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" If I am compiling programs which does not use any include files except , it executes without any errors. Please help me out. Eagerly waiting for your reply. regards muthu - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From asatsi@hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 3:15:22 1999 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 03:15:22 PDT From: Satish Pagare Subject: Re: sites for linux internals try lynx /usr/src/linux Also there is LDP pages in html format in the distribution u can browse them lynx /usr/doc/LDP/lpg/lpg.html .... satish/ >From: "subrahmanyam jiddu" >Dear friends, >I would like to know the various sites in which I can get information >regarding the internals of linux i.e., at the OS level. > >Yours, >J.N.Subrahmanyam ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Fri Jun 4 3:50:17 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:20:17 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Re: PCI modems > I did not sya this. I just referred the MODEM HOW-TO on Linux > Documentation Project website and gave you a section from there. > The fact of the matter is that some of the PCI modems may work with > linux but there are many which do not. I know for sure that > Rockwell modem that is shipped with Compaq Presarios does not work. ;-) No one said *you* were to blame for the statement - I was talking about the people who wrote the HOWTO. > My point is that best bet may be an ISA internal modem or external > modem which will always work. An ISA internal in any form has always been a bad bet, and with the "sudden death" of ISA, all ISA based cards are now relegated to history (as they should be). If you recall my articles in PCQ, I have *always* urged people to stick to external modems for exactly the same reasons that you state. Internal card modems used to have a price advantage, but that has completely eroded now - and for the sake of maybe 200-300 bucks, it is not worth to go in for an internal modem to save money. The only excuse people can still wave to use internal modems is because of the (slightly) reduced cabling, but frankly I have never considered that as a very good reason. An external modem is *the* best bet. But be aware that we can see changes on that horizon, too. USB based modems should begin appearing in the next few months, which will cause a sudden death for RS232 devices as well. HP's new lineup of printers soon to be released have USB options - and that will probably see the end of the parallel port as we know it as well. All that remains is Linux getting decent USB support (the rudiments of which are already available in the latest kernels) - give it a couple of months. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Fri Jun 4 2:53:5 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:23:05 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: Re: imapd !!! Imapd runs as root and doesn't need any permissions to read/write mail folders. Most other mail clients run as setgid mail, and need the mail folders to be group mail with rw-rw---- permissions. If Imapd is changing the permissions, it's a bug and should be reported to the distribution maker (or the author if you didn't install imapd as part of a distribution). Regards, - -- Raju >>>>> "Vinay" == Vinay Avasthi writes: Vinay> [1 ] That is what the Vinay> permissions for mail folders are supposed to be. Probably Vinay> your imapclient is changing them back for security reasons. Vinay> VA ---------------------------------------------- >> SUMA R wrote: >> >> Hi, After my user read mails thru an imap client in my mail >> server the permissions of their inbox gets changed from >> "-rw-rw----" to "-rw-------". Even if i change their inbox >> permissions back to the original one , making the next imap >> connection to my mail server, changes my users inbox >> permissions again to "-rw-------" . What could be the problem ? >> >> regards, suma - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From jaju@realityweb.net Fri Jun 4 4:27:9 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ravindra Jaju Subject: Re: Query: Regarding max filename length Depends on the system It's different on different systems. In case of Linux, I guess, it's defined as 255. - --jaju On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Kousik Bera wrote: > Hi All, > I am forwarding a query from a friend, who is working in OSS > dev. > In the file /usr/include/posix1_lim.h the filename limit > is specified as 14. > #define _POSIX_NAME_MAX 14 > But I was successfull in creating a file with filename > 14 chars. > How is this possible? > If this is not the forum to ask this question, plz let me know > the correct mailing list addr. > TIA, > Kousik > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Fri Jun 4 18:41:23 1999 Date: 04 Jun 1999 18:41:23 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Query: Regarding max filename length Kousik Bera writes: > Hi All, I am forwarding a query from a friend, who is working in OSS > dev. In the file /usr/include/posix1_lim.h the filename limit is > specified as 14. > #define _POSIX_NAME_MAX 14 If you use filenames greater than 14 chars, then your program may not work on some POSIX compliant system (probably WinNT). But it works on Linux. The Linux specific limits are in /usr/include/linux/limits.h -Arun - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From s_kashya@alcor.concordia.ca Fri Jun 4 19:51:56 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Siddharth Subject: Re: PDF files PDF Files: xpdf On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Sunil Sarat wrote: > Hi > > How to read PDF files in LINUX? > > Thanks in advance > > Sunil Sarat > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Fri Jun 4 20:10:30 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:40:30 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: PDF files >>>>> "Sunil" == Sunil Sarat writes: Sunil> Hi How to read PDF files in LINUX? Apart from other readers, GhostScript also has the ability to read PDF files. Regards, - -- Raju Sunil> Thanks in advance Sunil> Sunil Sarat - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From ragu@vsnl.com Fri Jun 4 20:28:19 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 08:58:19 +0530 From: Raghavendra Bhat Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Linux, info. needed Hariharan Narayanan wrote: > Could anybody point me to pages that compare FreeBSD and Linux. That > is any article that answers the question "why should you one prefer > Here U can find an excellent comparison between FreeBSD vs GNU/Linux. Tnx to Arun Krishnaswamy, follow this very good link..... http://www.futuresouth.com/~fullermd/freebsd/bsdvlin.html ragOO, VU2RGU. - -- Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.....Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From raju@sgi.com Fri Jun 4 20:20:52 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 08:50:52 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Mathur Subject: X on remote system Host A: Where your X applications lie (the Client) Host B: Where your X display is running (the Server) 1. On B, after loading X type this in an xterm: xhost +HostA This will allow clients from HostA to connect to the X server. 2. Login to HostA and in an xterm type: export DISPLAY=HostB:0 This will tell any X clients you run now where the server is. 3. Run any X clients you want from that xterm in HostA. You can also run xdm on HostA and then start x on HostB with: X -query HostA after which your complete X session will run as if it had been started from HostA. You need a minimum of about 115.2 Kb/s to run X. I've tried it on 14.4 lines and it sucks, works beautifully on 10 MB/s ethernet. Also see if you can use LBX (Low Bandwidth X) somehow. Hope this helps, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur / Web Technical Support / Silicon Graphics / New Delhi +91-124-349811 / raju@sgi.com / 551-7228 http://reality.sgi.com/raju / Not necessarily speaking PGP: F2 D4 4A 21 27 B0 63 FF | for Silicon Graphics. 15 97 9D AE 9D 40 BC B8 | It is the Mind that Moves >>>>> "Karan" == Karan Girotra writes: Karan> Hye , I have 2 systems on a lan and I want to run Xwindows Karan> on the remote system from the other. I want the remote Karan> system to use my xserver and also my audio . I have root Karan> permissions on both my machines and obviously both are Karan> dedicated machines running linux Rh5.2 How can this be done Karan> ??? What bandwidth of data connection between the two Karan> machines would be required to run a usable x session ??? Karan> Guys please bail me out soon. This is urgent Karan> Regards .... Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Karan> Technology, Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# Karan> 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ End of Linux India Digest V1 #28 ******************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send an email to majordomo@aunet.org with the word 'unsubscribe linux-india-digest' (without the quotes) in the body of the email. From mysxrd@giasbg01.vsnl.net.in Fri Jun 4 21:6:54 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:36:54 +0530 (IST) From: XRDLAB Subject: Re: Compilation error. On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Muthu wrote: > I have a Slackware 3.5 machine. When I compile(using cc or gcc) a small C >program using the "-l" (Since I am using include file in the >program> option, it is giving the following two line error. > Was it just "gcc foobar.c -l" that you used or "gcc foobar.c -lm"? It should be latter which links the library libm.a which contains the math routines. Hope that helps, sridhar ******************************************** Dr. Sridhar M. A. Department of Physics University of Mysore, Manasagangotri Mysore 570 006, INDIA Tel: +91-821-516133 Fax: +91-821-516133 E-mail: mysxrd@giasbg01.vsnl.net.in ******************************************* - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From jaju@realityweb.net Fri Jun 4 21:14:36 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:14:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ravindra Jaju Subject: Re: Compilation error. > > I have a Slackware 3.5 machine. When I compile(using cc or gcc) a small C > program using the "-l" (Since I am using include file in the > program> option, it is giving the following two line error. > > "/usr/i586-pc-linux-gnulibc1/bin/ld: Cannot open -l-lgcc: No such file or > directory > Collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" Can you give the exact command you use? it should be: gcc -lm (in case of math library). regards, jaju - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From jaju@realityweb.net Fri Jun 4 21:24:22 1999 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ravindra Jaju Subject: Re: X on remote system Try X -query [options] from the machine which wants to act as client. Of course, the appropriate X server needs to be installed on the "client". Since you are on a LAN, I guess the bandwidth should be sufficient. (Is this what you had asked for??) regards, jaju On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Karan Girotra wrote: > Hye , > > > I have 2 systems on a lan and I want to run Xwindows on the remote system from > the other. I want the remote system to use my xserver and also my audio . > I have root permissions on both my machines and obviously both are dedicated > machines running linux Rh5.2 > How can this be done ??? > What bandwidth of data connection between the two machines would be required to > run a usable x session ??? > Guys please bail me out soon. This is urgent > > > Regards .... > Karan Girotra, > Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi > 91-011-6864507 > 91-011-6862034 > Icq# 25636434 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From geetha@cswri.raj.nic.in Fri Jun 4 21:57:37 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:27:37 +0530 (IST) From: "V. Geethalakshmi" Subject: Re: Compilation error. Try using cc -lm It works for my programs V. Geethalakshmi. On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Muthu wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > I have a Slackware 3.5 machine. When I compile(using cc or gcc) a small C > program using the "-l" (Since I am using include file in the > program> option, it is giving the following two line error. > > "/usr/i586-pc-linux-gnulibc1/bin/ld: Cannot open -l-lgcc: No such file or > directory > Collect2: ld returned 1 exit status" > > If I am compiling programs which does not use any include files except > , it executes without any errors. Please help me out. Eagerly > waiting for your reply. > > regards > muthu > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From dhinakaran@innomedia.soft.net Fri Jun 4 22:27:4 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:57:04 +0530 From: Rajiv Dhinakaran Subject: Re: AMDK6 and P-II Good statistics. But as far as an OS like Linux (Or Windows for that matter) is concerned, only integer operations count and floating point operations are nowhere in the picture. (Infact almost al OS's run perfectly on 386's and 486SX's which have absolutely no floating point capabilities whatsoever.) For floating point operations, 3D transforms and Scientific number crunching, the P-II, P-III, Celeron and Pentium Pro are in a class of their own. At 12:07 PM 5/31/99 +0530, you wrote: >On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 11:31:37AM +0530, Thus spoke Rajiv Dhinakaran : > > --> The AMD K6 is an excellent processor for Linux, and gives P-II class > --> performance at least in linux. > >As for compatibility, AMD K6-2 is a pin-for-pin replacement >to Pentium chips on socket 7, ( mother boards should have >split voltage capability to use AMD K6). AMD K6-2 goes in to a socket 7 >and almost gives the performance of a P-II of the same clock >speed. Except if you are only doing floating point operations, >P-II is about 30 % better. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Fri Jun 4 23:37:0 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 12:07:00 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: Re: LPD probs -Reply telnet left 515 gives the following - Trying 172.17.25.22 Connected to left Escape char.... So it connects to the printer. Problem is that any job submitted remains in the spool only. LPC gives the following - lpc> status left: queuing enabled printing enabled no entries NO DAEMON PRESENT Cant locate where the problem is .. :-( ciao, amit >>> Chetan Kumar 06/04/99 11:34am >>> On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, AMIT KUCHERIA wrote: > Hi all, > > I have RH5.2. When i installed it, my lpd was running fine, meaning, i was > able to print to a remote HP laserjet printer on our network. > > Now i cant. Though lpd is started, it does not stay that way. Sorry I could not get it, what do Y mean it does not stay that. Is lpd deamon running, you can check with telnet 0 515 - -Chetan S > What could be the problem ? > > TIA > ciao, > amit > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ > Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. > Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read > http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Sat Jun 5 0:36:17 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:06:17 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Root login from remote system Hye, How can one set up a system to allow a root login ( not su ) from a remote system ???? - -- Regards .. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From karan@sexmagnet.com Sat Jun 5 0:23:14 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:53:14 +0530 From: Karan Girotra Subject: Re: X on remote system On Sat, 05 Jun 1999, you wrote: >Host A: Where your X applications lie (the Client) > >Host B: Where your X display is running (the Server) > >1. On B, after loading X type this in an xterm: > > xhost +HostA > >This will allow clients from HostA to connect to the X server. > >2. Login to HostA and in an xterm type: > > export DISPLAY=HostB:0 > >This will tell any X clients you run now where the server is. > >3. Run any X clients you want from that xterm in HostA. > >You can also run xdm on HostA and then start x on HostB with: > > X -query HostA > >after which your complete X session will run as if it had been started >from HostA. > >You need a minimum of about 115.2 Kb/s to run X. I've tried it on >14.4 lines and it sucks, works beautifully on 10 MB/s ethernet. Also >see if you can use LBX (Low Bandwidth X) somehow. > >Hope this helps, > >-- Raju thanks raj and others >>>> With your help (and some help from the ldp howtos) i was able to run x , but still cannot open my audio device (on the client ) from programs running on the host . I guess if i could setup a link from the audio device on the host to my audio device (the client). The problem is how to set links across network file systems.. any ideas or other workarounds ???? K runs an audioserver how can one connect to it ? I have heard of some compression protocol that can be used to link the xserver and the host . Any details ??? - -- Regards .. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From sunil@nicfos.ernet.in Fri Jun 4 22:50:37 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:20:37 +0530 From: Sunil Sarat Subject: Re: NIS problems > > 1. Has your domainname been set ? Yes, the nisdomainname for both server and client have beent set to the same name. > 2. Have you run /var/yp/Makefile on the server ? Yes, while running it I've got an error message saying that it cannot open the file /etc/netgroup. So, I've created one blank /etc/netgroup file and continued. Next when I executed ypinit -m on the master, it didn't give any error message > 3. Do you have ypbind running on both the server and the client ? Yes > > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Sat Jun 5 1:36:57 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 14:06:57 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: LPD woes (cont'd) Hi all, My test pages print well from the RedHat printtool. But when i switch to using the drag and drop facility of Gnome+Enlightenment it doesnt work. I have 2 HP Jetdirect printers on the network - left and right. On dragging a file over the printer icon, the request is spooled but not forwarded to the printer even though i am directing it to the RAW spool of the printer. 'lpq -P left ' shows no entries for JetDirect. Please help. TIA. ciao, amit - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From AK-IBM@vashi.ltindia.com Sat Jun 5 1:38:14 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 14:08:14 +0530 From: AMIT KUCHERIA Subject: Re: X on remote system -Reply i am not sure but i think that u cant access sound devices over the network ciao, amit >>> Karan Girotra 06/05/99 12:53pm >>> On Sat, 05 Jun 1999, you wrote: >Host A: Where your X applications lie (the Client) > >Host B: Where your X display is running (the Server) > >1. On B, after loading X type this in an xterm: > > xhost +HostA > >This will allow clients from HostA to connect to the X server. > >2. Login to HostA and in an xterm type: > > export DISPLAY=HostB:0 > >This will tell any X clients you run now where the server is. > >3. Run any X clients you want from that xterm in HostA. > >You can also run xdm on HostA and then start x on HostB with: > > X -query HostA > >after which your complete X session will run as if it had been started >from HostA. > >You need a minimum of about 115.2 Kb/s to run X. I've tried it on >14.4 lines and it sucks, works beautifully on 10 MB/s ethernet. Also >see if you can use LBX (Low Bandwidth X) somehow. > >Hope this helps, > >-- Raju thanks raj and others >>>> With your help (and some help from the ldp howtos) i was able to run x , but still cannot open my audio device (on the client ) from programs running on the host . I guess if i could setup a link from the audio device on the host to my audio device (the client). The problem is how to set links across network file systems.. any ideas or other workarounds ???? K runs an audioserver how can one connect to it ? I have heard of some compression protocol that can be used to link the xserver and the host . Any details ??? - -- Regards .. Karan Girotra, Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi 91-011-6864507 91-011-6862034 Icq# 25636434 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From helpindore@vsnl.com Sat Jun 5 2:45:8 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:15:08 +0530 From: "VaibhaV Sharma" Subject: Re: Root login from remote system edit the file /etc/securetty i your favourite editor and add some terminals to it I added ttyp0 ttyp1 ttyp2 ttyp3 this is actually the list of terminals from which root is allowed to log in, and are supposed to assumed as secure terminals (experts please correct me if I am wrong) VaibhaV Sharma webmaster@mgmmc.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Karan Girotra To: linux-india@aunet.org Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 2:37 PM Subject: Root login from remote system > >Hye, > >How can one set up a system to allow a root login ( not su ) from a remote >system ???? > > > > >-- >Regards .. >Karan Girotra, >Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi >91-011-6864507 >91-011-6862034 >Icq# 25636434 > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. >Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read >http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From asatsi@hotmail.com Sat Jun 5 2:55:59 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 02:55:59 PDT From: Satish Pagare Subject: cdparanoia Re: Playing VCD with xanim Hi, you can use the software cdparanoia for ripping CD so that the wav file is created on harddisk. Use bladeenc to make mp3 out of it. (Long live the MP3) ...... Satish/ >Satish Pagare wrote: > > > Yeah that's true ... Coz the audio CD format on the CD's is not > > in mpeg format, if u rip > >O.K, mebbe I am still in the stone age, but, Somebody please tell me what >CD ripping is all about ;-( >I guess it means extracting wav files from an audio CD. In that case please >let me know how to do this. > > > those CDs you will get wav files out of it. > > > > <>-- > > > > > >Thanks in Advance > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ >Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. >Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read >http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html-------------------------------------------------------------- "I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -- Hunter S. Thompson - -------------------------------------------------------------- Satish K. 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If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From ebrahim@tpcdubai.com Sat Jun 5 14:21:10 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:21:10 -0500 From: ebrahim Subject: RE: Playing VCD with xanim - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BEAF6F.7610DD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable CD Ripping means converting CD Audio CDs to wav files and then to = MP3..... you need a CDROM drive capable of ripping of the Audio tracks = from the Audio CD ..... most probably you would need a SCSI drive as an = ATAPI CDROM drive is incapable of this... any feedback on this guys (n) = girls.... Regards Dutt - -----Original Message----- From: Ghins Mathai [SMTP:ghins@accord-soft.com] Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 4:00 AM To: linux-india@aunet.org Subject: Re: Playing VCD with xanim Satish Pagare wrote: > Yeah that's true ... Coz the audio CD format on the CD's is not > in mpeg format, if u rip O.K, mebbe I am still in the stone age, but, Somebody please tell me = what CD ripping is all about ;-( I guess it means extracting wav files from an audio CD. In that case = please let me know how to do this. > those CDs you will get wav files out of it. > > <>-- > Thanks in Advance > > - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. 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Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Sat Jun 5 6:0:44 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:30:44 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: RE: Playing VCD with xanim > CD Ripping means converting CD Audio CDs to wav files and then to > MP3..... you need a CDROM drive capable of ripping of the Audio tracks > from the Audio CD ..... most probably you would need a SCSI drive as > an ATAPI CDROM drive is incapable of this... any feedback on this guys > (n) girls.... I have happily ripped CDs and turned them into WAV and MP3 files from just about every CD drive I have owned, ATAPI, SCSI and even proprietory 2x creative drives back in the mid 90s. Basically, any drive that complies to the Orange Book can do this. Atul - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Sat Jun 5 7:27:58 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:57:58 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: Invoicing program All: I am trying to impress a bunch of traders with Linux. Didn't have a good time until I ran Tally for Windows in Wine, at which point they drooled. But while the Tally people are on record that they are developing a Linux version, they don't have it yet. Now these traders are primarily interested in the invoicing part, trackiong customer outstandings and payments, etc. Does anyone know of any Linux based package (libre/commercial) that does the job? TIA Atul - ---------------------------------------------------- Atul Chitnis | achitnis@cbconsulting.com C&B Consulting | http://www.cbconsulting.com Bangalore, India | +91(80)3440397 Fax +91(80)3341137 - ---------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From achitnis@cbconsulting.com Sat Jun 5 8:26:35 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:56:35 +0530 (IST) From: Atul Chitnis Subject: WinModems For all those of you who had questions about WinModems/Printers, check out http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-1999-05/lw-05-linux101.html for a writeup on the issues. Atul - ---------------------------------------------------- Atul Chitnis | achitnis@cbconsulting.com C&B Consulting | http://www.cbconsulting.com Bangalore, India | +91(80)3440397 Fax +91(80)3341137 - ---------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From anilkumar@hotpop.com Sat Jun 5 8:48:33 1999 Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 21:18:33 +0530 From: Anilkumar Subject: Installation of Network Card Hello Linux-Lovers PLS help me in installing Network Card . I installed Linux 5.2 from PC-Quest Mar 99 CD. I have NE2000 Compatible Network Card.I want to installed it.I already installed Linux OS without Netwok card. Please help me. - -- Anilkumar Mumbai - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From binand@bombay.retortsoft.com Sat Jun 5 21:46:56 1999 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:46:56 +051800 From: "Binand Raj S." Subject: Re: which RPM for this lib. On Fri, Jun 04, 1999 at 12:05:01AM -0400, rohitbhargav@cyberdude.com wrote: > Hi, > > My rh 6.0 system doesn"t seem to have libsocket.so. > is there a way for me to find out which rpm contains this lib ... other > than actaully running a rpm -qpl . > > I tried a web search, but it says this lib is a part of the ibcs2..rpm > which comes with the suse distro .. ??? > > Ealier when i had installed rh 5.2, this lib was there, and i chose > nearly the same stuff to install as i dd with rh 6.0 .... > > Any idea where libsocket.so could be .. ? IIRC, libsocket.so is needed only for SVR4 Unices. BSD Unices have this library included in their libc. IIRC, this concept is actually a test for distinguishing SVR4 from BSD Unices. Linux, on the way to incoporating the best points of both these versions, put libsocket in libc. So linux machines don't need libsocket.so. I have worked on a SunOS 5.6 machine which needed -lsocket to compile programs using sockets, and a Digital Unix machine which did not need this. I had reached the conclusion that Sun OS is SVR4 and DEC OSF/1 is BSD. Any comments on this? Am I right? Can anyone tell me a few other tests to distinguish between these two main flavours of Unix? I remember reading a document on the web about this, but I cannot now recall the URL. Sorry for flying off topic, Binand - -------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information on Linux in India visit http://www.linux-india.org/ Linux India is NOT a forum for Microsoft/India/Pakistan/US/UK bashing. Flame baits will not be tolerated. If you can appreciate satire read http://www.templetons.com/brad/emily.html ------------------------------ From adsharma@home.com Sat Jun 5 10:9:0 1999 Date: 05 Jun 1999 10:09:00 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Subject: Re: Root login from remote system Karan Girotra writes: > > Hye, > > How can one set up a system to allow a root login ( not su ) from a remote > system ???? Comment out the securetty line from /etc/pam.d/login -Arun - -----------------------------------------------