From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 04:03:59 2001 Received: from galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (unknown [12.10.197.146]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA244A105 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 04:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npi.stpn.soft.net ([192.9.202.251]) by galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (8.9.3/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA29556 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:35:05 +0530 Message-ID: <3AEE965E.91296D6E@npi.stpn.soft.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:26:30 +0530 From: Upendra Uniyal Organization: Network Programs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org" Subject: Vaction Program Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E9E7F680DA20F0FEA1F18251" X-Archive-Number: 200105/1 X-Sequence-Number: 3713 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E9E7F680DA20F0FEA1F18251 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am using vacation program for auto reply but i get the auto reply with blank subject and body.However i have configured .vacation.msg . 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Thanks Upendra --------------E9E7F680DA20F0FEA1F18251 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="upendra.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Upendra Uniyal Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="upendra.vcf" begin:vcard n:Uniyal;Upendra tel;home:C-3/221 Sec-31 Noida tel;work:Network Programs x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:upendra@npi.stpn.soft.net note:"The Most Bankrupt man In The World Is The Man Who Has Lost His Enthusiasm" fn:Upendra Uniyal end:vcard --------------E9E7F680DA20F0FEA1F18251-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 10:34:52 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8146F4A06A for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 10:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f14.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.14]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0556F4A0E4 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 03:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 1 May 2001 03:47:20 -0700 Received: from 64.210.241.103 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 01 May 2001 10:47:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.210.241.103] From: "Narasimhamoorthy Sathish" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Reg.Books on unix internals Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:47:20 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2001 10:47:20.0282 (UTC) FILETIME=[18CC73A0:01C0D22C] X-Archive-Number: 200105/2 X-Sequence-Number: 3714 Hi, I am sathish. I need ur help. Is there any good books available in the market for unix internals. I need some books which would cover the following topics in depth a) Socket Programming b) Threads Programming c) InterProcess communication d) Networking concepts e) Signals Expecting ur reply at ur earliest conveneience. Thanx with warm regards Sathish _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 11:02:36 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C00E949F2F for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 11:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delhi.flora.ca (delhi.flora.ottawa.on.ca [209.151.25.226]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8863F4A159 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 10:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (achalp@localhost) by delhi.flora.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15452 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:40:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:40:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Achal Prabhakar To: Subject: Re: Reg.Books on unix internals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/3 X-Sequence-Number: 3715 Two books that are always useful and most used. Unix network programming - stevens Advanced unix programming - stevens For networking concepts you can use Computer Network - tanenbaum Networks ( don't remember the full title) - leon garcia. TCP/IP - three volumes by stevens TCP/IP - cruzon or somebody with a similar name. Threads - use the documentation of pthreads ( i don't think anything more is needed) -Achal On Tue, 1 May 2001, Narasimhamoorthy Sathish wrote: > Hi, > > I am sathish. I need ur help. Is there any good books available in the > market for unix internals. I need some books which would cover the following > topics in depth > > a) Socket Programming > b) Threads Programming > c) InterProcess communication > d) Networking concepts > e) Signals > > Expecting ur reply at ur earliest conveneience. > > Thanx with warm regards > Sathish > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > -- --- +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Achal Prabhakar +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Home: 8450 Cambridge Office: 3377, UHCO Apt. #3181 Univ. Of Houston Houston, TX-77054 Houston,TX-77004 713-790-0017 713-743-1853 832-423-7579 achal@netshooter.com achal@uh.edu =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 21:04:33 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 202A04A01B for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBCB4A0AF for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 20:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id JAA0000025166; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:13:53 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02228 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:16:59 +0530 Resent-From: Raju Mathur Resent-Message-ID: <15087.33587.74236.975979@mail.linux-delhi.org> Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:16:59 +0530 (IST) Resent-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-POP3-Rcpt: raju@linux-delhi.org charset="iso-8859-1" Organization: Deloittes X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01050208315700.01073@localhost.localdomain> Errors-To: linux-india-help-admin@lists.sourceforge.net X-BeenThere: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net X-Reply-To: ashwinds@yahoo.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Technical list for helping people with installation and configuration issues List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: Ashwin D To: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [LIH] New (not really) File System Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:31:57 +0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Sender: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org X-Archive-Number: 200105/4 X-Sequence-Number: 3716 Hi all, Just read that XFS is now at 1.x release - http://linux-xfs.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ Somebody once said when i was praising reiser that xfs knocks reisers pants off. Anyone on the list tried this yet? -- Ashwin D ashwinds@yahoo.com Mandrake 8 + Kernel 2.4.4 ----------------- Rupees 0 ----------------- _______________________________________________ linux-india-help mailing list linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 21:16:53 2001 Received: from false.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.225]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDA64A0A9 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.71.133.56] (helo=node5) by false.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 14uo1p-0000x1-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Wed, 02 May 2001 09:44:17 +0530 Message-ID: <002401c0d2bf$612e88c0$01a8a8c0@node5> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: Subject: Reg.Books on networking Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:51:36 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/5 X-Sequence-Number: 3717 Unix network programming - Stevens Advanced unix programming - Stevens For networking concepts you can use Computer Network - Tenenbaum theres another by Stevens on networking fundamentals Networks ( don't remember the full title) - leon garcia. TCP/IP - three volumes by Stevens These are by far the best books Regards, $ÛÑÏ£ ÐHÅKÅ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 22:36:58 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D69E44A0A6 for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCF04A01A for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucky (unknown [203.197.209.161]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625433F46F for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 10:51:37 -0500 (GMT) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADE503BDD8; Wed, 2 May 2001 10:56:59 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Reg.Books on unix internals References: From: Supreet Sethi Date: 02 May 2001 10:56:59 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87r8y8e2xo.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 1 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/6 X-Sequence-Number: 3718 The list is available in /usr/src/linux/Documentation From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 22:37:06 2001 Received: from dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (unknown [203.197.212.137]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4D74A10A for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ggn.hcltech.com (mail.ggn.hcltech.com [204.160.249.8]) by dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13033 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:18:03 +0530 Received: from mail2.ggn.hcltech.com (MAIL2 [192.168.10.4]) by mail.ggn.hcltech.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JZT1GYQ5; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:03:36 +0530 Received: by MAIL2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:07:22 +0530 Message-ID: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53092DE2@MAIL2> From: "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:07:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/7 X-Sequence-Number: 3719 Hi, I was trying to do a kernel compile on RH7.0. When i give "make bzImage" or "make zlilo", then after making vmlinux, it gives an error saying.... ......... Root device is (3, 2). Boot sector 512 bytes. Setup is 3556 bytes. System is 1837 kB System is too big. Try using modules. Can anyone please tell me how do i proceed to make a bootable kernel image? Regards, Amitoj. PS: I have enabled the "loadable module support" option in config. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 23:05:40 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4474A0EE for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (d4209.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [203.197.207.69]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id A60A540D0F; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:32:28 +0000 (IST) Message-ID: <000b01c0d2cd$6bb00400$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: Cc: > References: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53092DE2@MAIL2> Subject: Re: kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:02:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/8 X-Sequence-Number: 3720 yes u can proceed buit before that u jsut take the back up of vmlinuz saying cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.old then carry oin no problem this is a warning but not a problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > Hi, > > I was trying to do a kernel compile on RH7.0. > When i give "make bzImage" or "make zlilo", then after making vmlinux, it > gives an error saying.... > ......... > Root device is (3, 2). > Boot sector 512 bytes. > Setup is 3556 bytes. > System is 1837 kB > System is too big. Try using modules. > > Can anyone please tell me how do i proceed to make a bootable kernel image? > > Regards, > Amitoj. > PS: I have enabled the "loadable module support" option in config. > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 1 23:21:00 2001 Received: from dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (unknown [203.197.212.137]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B794A00F for ; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ggn.hcltech.com (mail.ggn.hcltech.com [204.160.249.8]) by dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA15507 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 12:02:08 +0530 Received: from mail2.ggn.hcltech.com (MAIL2 [192.168.10.4]) by mail.ggn.hcltech.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JZT1GZ4S; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:47:41 +0530 Received: by MAIL2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:51:12 +0530 Message-ID: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53092E25@MAIL2> From: "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" To: Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: RE: kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:51:11 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/9 X-Sequence-Number: 3721 umm.. but it does not build a new vmlinuz. The vmlinuz in /boot is still an older one. After giving the error i mentioned below, it exits make saying Error 2. And i am left without a fresh bootable kernel image!!! > ---------- > From: kshounish[SMTP:kshounish@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:32 AM > To: amitoj@ggn.hcltech.com > Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > > > yes u can proceed buit before that u jsut take the back up of vmlinuz > saying cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.old > then carry oin no problem this is a warning but not a problem. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:37 PM > Subject: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > > > > Hi, > > > > I was trying to do a kernel compile on RH7.0. > > When i give "make bzImage" or "make zlilo", then after making vmlinux, > it > > gives an error saying.... > > ......... > > Root device is (3, 2). > > Boot sector 512 bytes. > > Setup is 3556 bytes. > > System is 1837 kB > > System is too big. Try using modules. > > > > Can anyone please tell me how do i proceed to make a bootable kernel > image? > > > > Regards, > > Amitoj. > > PS: I have enabled the "loadable module support" option in config. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 00:17:15 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FFF4A145 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blazer.linkaxis.com (unknown [202.54.109.150]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED0940D02 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 12:43:06 +0000 (IST) Received: from localhost (kishore@localhost) by blazer.linkaxis.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f427DWl00989 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 12:43:32 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: blazer.linkaxis.com: kishore owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:43:32 +0530 (IST) From: Kishore Bhargava To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: prob in dial-up setup In-Reply-To: <20010430232714.A1039@iimk.ren.nic.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/10 X-Sequence-Number: 3722 Nikk, I was checking on a very old machine of mine running RH6.1 still and a very old kernel too, the peerdns seems to be supported there as well. in fact, it was something that had me puzzled for a long time I was not using ip-up.local or down.local to change /etc/resolv.conf and yet it would change on its own with the correct DNSs all the time. I looked at the output of ps auxwww|grep pppd and found that usepeerdns was one of the pppd options. I still don't know where that came from I have not specified it anywhere and would actually like to ;) Cheers...Kishore On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Nikhil Datta wrote: > man pppd, with a search for 'nameserver' shows : > > usepeerdns > Ask the peer for up to 2 DNS server addresses. The > addresses supplied by the peer (if any) are passed -- What you don't know can hurt you, only you won't know it. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 01:38:57 2001 Received: from arjun.eurolink.stpn.soft.net (unknown [203.190.136.66]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0432E4A11D for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 01:38:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssj.eurolink.stpn.soft.net (in.velocient.com) [192.168.200.16] by arjun.eurolink.stpn.soft.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 14urp6-00009W-00; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:47:24 +0530 Message-ID: <3AEFC99D.65D07406@in.velocient.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:17:25 +0530 From: Sanvir Singh Jham X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: ls giving problems References: <002401c0d2bf$612e88c0$01a8a8c0@node5> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/11 X-Sequence-Number: 3723 Hi, I am facing an error with doing 'ls' on a server, I get the following error: ls: can't load library 'libc.so.5' Any idea what is going wrong? Thanks for all the help. Regards, Sanvir -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sanvir Singh Jham Tel: 694 1831/6619/6612/8617/ 5226/7/8 Velocient Technologies Limited Fax: 694 3732 New Delhi E-Mail:sanvir.jham@in.velocient.com ssjham@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just Believe in the Best From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 02:23:13 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB86E4A08D for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 02:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.200.86.59]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id D4A3E40E50; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:49:31 +0000 (IST) Message-ID: <000d01c0d2e9$083e7de0$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: Cc: References: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53092E25@MAIL2> Subject: Re: kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 02:19:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/12 X-Sequence-Number: 3724 u just make the rebuild the kernel again and while do ing just check whether u get the bz image in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzimage or not then think that that is not pperly configured or as what my mind is sayying u havnt use the proper way if u want just dromp a message in kshounish@yahoo.com for the kerbnel rebuilding tutorial, u will get it today night itself if u want ----- Original Message ----- From: Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:21 PM Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > > umm.. but it does not build a new vmlinuz. The vmlinuz in /boot is still an > older one. > After giving the error i mentioned below, it exits make saying Error 2. > And i am left without a fresh bootable kernel image!!! > > > ---------- > > From: kshounish[SMTP:kshounish@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:32 AM > > To: amitoj@ggn.hcltech.com > > Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > > > > > > yes u can proceed buit before that u jsut take the back up of vmlinuz > > saying cp /boot/vmlinuz /boot/vmlinuz.old > > then carry oin no problem this is a warning but not a problem. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:37 PM > > Subject: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I was trying to do a kernel compile on RH7.0. > > > When i give "make bzImage" or "make zlilo", then after making vmlinux, > > it > > > gives an error saying.... > > > ......... > > > Root device is (3, 2). > > > Boot sector 512 bytes. > > > Setup is 3556 bytes. > > > System is 1837 kB > > > System is too big. Try using modules. > > > > > > Can anyone please tell me how do i proceed to make a bootable kernel > > image? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Amitoj. > > > PS: I have enabled the "loadable module support" option in config. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 04:52:42 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C25D49F30 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 04:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [203.197.210.195]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039FC3F24B for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 17:18:13 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AF0B52DB80; Wed, 2 May 2001 04:15:09 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 04:15:09 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Reg.Books on unix internals Message-ID: <20010502041509.A8296@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from satishnmoorthy@hotmail.com on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 10:47:20AM -0000 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/13 X-Sequence-Number: 3725 On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 10:47:20AM -0000, Narasimhamoorthy Sathish wrote: >Hi, > >I am sathish. I need ur help. Is there any good books available in the >market for unix internals. I need some books which would cover the following >topics in depth > >a) Socket Programming Unix Network Programming -I Stevens >b) Threads Programming >c) InterProcess communication Unix Network Programming II Stevens >d) Networking concepts >e) Signals tenanbaum ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: If it starts working, we'll fix it. Pronto. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 05:28:13 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1C2C4A157 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 05:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mindcomp.org.org (unknown [216.236.197.246]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B69F4A012 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 04:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from themindbank.com (IDENT:goldwyn@Mindcomp [127.0.0.1]) by mindcomp.org.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f43BdWF07837 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 17:09:35 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF14374.8B06DCA0@themindbank.com> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:09:32 +0530 From: Goldwyn Rodrigues Organization: MindBank X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: apache subdirectories References: <002401c0d2bf$612e88c0$01a8a8c0@node5> <3AEFC99D.65D07406@in.velocient.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/14 X-Sequence-Number: 3726 I am buiding a site but however it is placei can't figure outd in the directory named test in /var/www/html now when i try to access thru any of the windows clients saying /test it say page not found. However only gives me the right page - the apache test page (I have still not changed it) Moreover on typing localhost/test on the same (linux) machine works. What cud b the reason Thanx Goldwyn :o) From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 05:31:59 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9874A16C for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 05:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id RAA0000003653; Wed, 2 May 2001 17:56:26 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01527; Wed, 2 May 2001 17:59:25 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15087.64933.116952.946897@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:59:25 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: [ADMIN] Out of station X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/15 X-Sequence-Number: 3727 Hi, I won't be able to read or admin this wonderful list from the 3rd to the 9th. In my absence Ghane aka Sanjeev Gupta will be handling list admin tasks. Please be gentle with Ghane, he's not a Majordomo2 expert (well, nor am I, but I got some time to learn :-) Try not to get bashed by MS in my absence -- I don't want to miss the fun! Regards, -- Raju -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 06:07:36 2001 Received: from web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com (web8001.in.yahoo.com [203.199.70.19]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01FAC4A053 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 06:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010502131330.963.qmail@web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.217.154] by web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com; Wed, 02 May 2001 14:13:30 BST Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:13:30 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Narsingh=20Sahu?= Subject: Re: kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53092DE2@MAIL2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/16 X-Sequence-Number: 3728 You haven't given the details as to how you went about it. hence it will be difficult to comment. I would suggest you go thru the documentation that comes with the sources and go thru the process once again. If the error still persists, please give the details of the procedure you followed along with your system configuration. -narsingh --- "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to do a kernel compile on RH7.0. > When i give "make bzImage" or "make zlilo", then > after making vmlinux, it > gives an error saying.... > ......... > Root device is (3, 2). > Boot sector 512 bytes. > Setup is 3556 bytes. > System is 1837 kB > System is too big. Try using modules. > > Can anyone please tell me how do i proceed to make a > bootable kernel image? > > Regards, > Amitoj. > PS: I have enabled the "loadable module support" > option in config. > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 07:02:43 2001 Received: from nw176.netaddress.usa.net (nw176.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.76]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D79F049F30 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:02:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18229 invoked by uid 60001); 2 May 2001 14:00:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20010502140022.18228.qmail@nw176.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.76 by nw176 for [202.71.129.246] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.17C.01) on Wed May 2 14:00:21 GMT 2001 Date: 2 May 2001 19:30:21 IST From: jai shinde To: linux delhi Subject: eggdrop !! X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.17C.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200105/17 X-Sequence-Number: 3729 hi friends, can any one tell me what eggdrop is .... bye Jai ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 09:36:25 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601104A0EE for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.197.233.21]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 98E1D40C08 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:03:21 +0000 (IST) Message-ID: <000c01c0d325$6c684f80$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: References: <002401c0d2bf$612e88c0$01a8a8c0@node5> <3AEFC99D.65D07406@in.velocient.com> <3AF14374.8B06DCA0@themindbank.com> Subject: Re: apache subdirectories Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:31:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/18 X-Sequence-Number: 3730 use it in dns because windows clientx doesnt understand the hostname because try ping 192.192.192.2 it will prompt but ping a.b.ccom not possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Goldwyn Rodrigues To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 4:39 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] apache subdirectories > I am buiding a site but however it is placei can't figure outd in the > directory named test in /var/www/html > now when i try to access thru any of the windows clients saying > /test it say page not found. > However only gives me the right page - the apache test page > (I have still not changed it) > > Moreover on typing localhost/test on the same (linux) machine works. > > What cud b the reason > > Thanx > > Goldwyn :o) > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 20:57:12 2001 Received: from sril1.sprintrpg.net.in (unknown [203.112.128.5]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0F24A102 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del1.sril.in (newpop [203.112.128.27]) by sril1.sprintrpg.net.in (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f434Ckv17860; Thu, 3 May 2001 09:42:46 +0530 Received: from localhost (vivek.karwal@localhost) by del1.sril.in (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA25659; Thu, 3 May 2001 09:25:41 +0530 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:25:41 +0530 (IST) From: Vivek Karwal X-Sender: vivek.karwal@del1.sril.in To: jai shinde Cc: linux delhi Subject: Re: eggdrop ! In-Reply-To: <20010502140022.18228.qmail@nw176.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/19 X-Sequence-Number: 3731 Eggdrop is a Hacking tool, as far as i know. -k.vivek On 2 May 2001, jai shinde wrote: > hi friends, > > can any one tell me what eggdrop is .... > > bye > > Jai > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > . > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 21:48:32 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f16.hotmail.com [216.32.181.16]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B372F4A012 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 May 2001 21:46:18 -0700 Received: from 203.122.42.70 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 03 May 2001 04:46:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.122.42.70] From: "sumeet sharma" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, goldwyn@themindbank.com Subject: Re: apache subdirectories Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 04:46:18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2001 04:46:18.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE7DDC30:01C0D38B] X-Archive-Number: 200105/20 X-Sequence-Number: 3732 Don't know if this mail will reach the list or not(an hotmail account is banned i heard!!) to map the ip address to a domain name u can edit the \winnt\drivers\etc\hosts file -- In case using winnt or \windows\hosts file -- For win 9x ping does work for the ping a.b.com then Goldwyn inside ur virtual host settin gin the httpd.conf try setting the server name to some value like... lnx.somedomain.com and inside the windows client machine make an entry in the host file as lnx.somedomain.com now try directing ur browser to lnx.somedomain.com and then try lnx.somedomain.com/test/index.html(make sure u have the index.html in /var/www/html/test directory!!) > >use it in dns because windows clientx doesnt understand the >hostname >because >try >ping 192.192.192.2 it will prompt but >ping a.b.ccom >not possible. > > I am buiding a site but however it is placei can't figure outd in the > > directory named test in /var/www/html > > now when i try to access thru any of the windows clients saying > > /test it say page not found. > > However only gives me the right page - the apache test page > > (I have still not changed it) > > > > Moreover on typing localhost/test on the same (linux) machine works. > > > > What cud b the reason > > > > Thanx > > > > Goldwyn :o) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > The mailing list archives are available at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 22:25:44 2001 Received: from dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (unknown [203.197.212.137]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8CF4A0B4 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ggn.hcltech.com (mail.ggn.hcltech.com [204.160.249.8]) by dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA17752 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:06:36 +0530 Received: from mail2.ggn.hcltech.com (MAIL2 [192.168.10.4]) by mail.ggn.hcltech.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JZT1H3Q9; Thu, 3 May 2001 10:51:24 +0530 Received: by MAIL2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 May 2001 10:55:56 +0530 Message-ID: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53093030@MAIL2> From: "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: RE: kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:55:55 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/21 X-Sequence-Number: 3733 U want me to list the whole .config here??? anyways, i looked into the boot directory and noticed the laaarge size of bvmlinux.out Upon taking a closer look at the config, i noticed that many of the drivers were being compiled in-kernel so i jus changed them to modules. That reduced the size very much and i finally ended up with a bootable bzImage. Thanks however for ur attention... urs as well as kshounish's Regards, Amitoj > ---------- > From: Narsingh Sahu[SMTP:narsinghsahu@yahoo.co.in] > Reply To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:43 PM > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] kernel compile in 2.2.16 on i686 > > You haven't given the details as to how you went about > it. hence it will be difficult to comment. I would > suggest you go thru the documentation that comes with > the sources and go thru the process once again. If the > error still persists, please give the details of the > procedure you followed along with your system > configuration. > > -narsingh > --- "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" > wrote: > Hi, > > > > I was trying to do a kernel compile on RH7.0. > > When i give "make bzImage" or "make zlilo", then > > after making vmlinux, it > > gives an error saying.... > > ......... > > Root device is (3, 2). > > Boot sector 512 bytes. > > Setup is 3556 bytes. > > System is 1837 kB > > System is too big. Try using modules. > > > > Can anyone please tell me how do i proceed to make a > > bootable kernel image? > > > > Regards, > > Amitoj. > > PS: I have enabled the "loadable module support" > > option in config. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 2 23:00:17 2001 Received: from dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (unknown [203.197.212.137]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7BC49F63 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ggn.hcltech.com (mail.ggn.hcltech.com [204.160.249.8]) by dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19297 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:41:19 +0530 Received: from mail2.ggn.hcltech.com (MAIL2 [192.168.10.4]) by mail.ggn.hcltech.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id JZT1HPJJ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:26:07 +0530 Received: by MAIL2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:30:39 +0530 Message-ID: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53093060@MAIL2> From: "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: kgcc? Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:30:38 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/22 X-Sequence-Number: 3734 Hi While doing the kernel compile on rh7.0 , i saw kgcc being used whereas 6.2 used gcc. There is no man page also for kgcc. Can anyone tell me whats the difference between kgcc and gcc ? Regards, Amitoj From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 3 00:46:25 2001 Received: from iimk.ren.nic.in (unknown [210.18.9.63]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38D649F60 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 00:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nikk@localhost) by iimk.ren.nic.in (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f435h9o00902 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:13:09 +0530 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:13:07 +0530 From: Nikhil Datta To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: eggdrop ! Message-ID: <20010503111307.A894@iimk.ren.nic.in> Mail-Followup-To: Nikhil Datta , linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <20010502140022.18228.qmail@nw176.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from vivek.karwal@sril.com on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:25:41AM +0530 X-Archive-Number: 200105/23 X-Sequence-Number: 3735 On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:25:41AM +0530, Vivek Karwal wrote: > Eggdrop is a Hacking tool, as far as i know. uggh. I hate to say this, but before asking, a) isn't it better to do a quick search first, and b) Before replying, isn't it better to know something about the question first ? We don't *have* to reply to eveyr post. From a freshmeat search for "eggdrop" : EXACT MATCH: eggdrop One of the oldest and most popular IRC bots still in active development. nikk -- You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 3 10:19:16 2001 Received: from nwcst323.netaddress.usa.net (unknown [204.68.23.68]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C4F949F1E for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 10:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 7952 invoked by uid 60001); 3 May 2001 17:16:55 -0000 Message-ID: <20010503171655.7951.qmail@nwcst323.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.68 by nwcst323 for [202.54.99.123] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.17C.01) on Thu May 3 17:16:55 GMT 2001 Date: 3 May 2001 11:16:55 MDT From: Vivek khurana To: Linux Delhi Subject: vmware req. X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.17C.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200105/24 X-Sequence-Number: 3736 Hi:-) I just want to know which release/version of vmware is best and from wher= e i can download it. I also want to know can i run ms visual studio with vmware= ?? Bye=20 vivek=20 Software is like sex; its good only when it comes free ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 3 15:12:30 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4724A0EE for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 15:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ibm (ddp-12-66.mantraonline.com [202.56.226.66] (may be forged)) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f43MA1j13271 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 18:10:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c0d41e$437c4960$0501a8c6@ibm> From: "neil" To: References: <20010503171655.7951.qmail@nwcst323.netaddress.usa.net> Subject: Re: vmware req. Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 03:43:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Archive-Number: 200105/25 X-Sequence-Number: 3737 > I just want to know which release/version of vmware is best and from where i > can download it. I also want to know can i run ms visual studio with vmware?? they are all the same ... not free... > Software is like sex; its good only when it comes free in light of this fetish, i suggest you have a look at freemware... still in development ... it shows a brighter future. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 01:45:43 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C0254A107 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 01:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26659 invoked by uid 417); 4 May 2001 08:43:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.21) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 4 May 2001 08:43:57 -0000 Message-ID: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: Subject: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:08:54 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/26 X-Sequence-Number: 3738 Does nebody have ne clue about win2K server and linux dual booting ?? or does nebody know how win2K bootloader works (ok ok, i know its a linux list, but i need this info to make it dual boot) ne ideas ?? i am using win2K server and Mandrake 7.2 i installed win2K then mandrake (it did not detect the win2K NTFS partitions) i am currently booting thru floopy... -jasmeet From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 06:32:14 2001 Received: from times.timesofte.com (unknown [202.131.130.13]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7224A0BD for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 06:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BANKER (banker.bank.com [192.168.16.175]) by times.timesofte.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f44DSjK02134 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:58:46 +0530 Message-ID: <000801c0d49f$07cfee90$af10a8c0@bank.com> From: "Sanjay Gupta" To: References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:05:05 +0530 Organization: TIMESOFT.COM PVT LTD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Archive-Number: 200105/27 X-Sequence-Number: 3739 thru linuxconf in lilo configure the other os as dos and the device in which yr win2k is loaded. from hash prompt run lilo. this should work. i have installed both win2k and linus rhl 6.2 dual boot. Sanjay Gupta ----- Original Message ----- From: Jasmeet S. Virdi To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot > Does nebody have ne clue about win2K server and linux dual booting ?? > > or does nebody know how win2K bootloader works (ok ok, i know its a linux > list, but i need this info to make it dual boot) > > ne ideas ?? > i am using win2K server and Mandrake 7.2 > i installed win2K then > mandrake (it did not detect the win2K NTFS partitions) > i am currently booting thru floopy... > > -jasmeet > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 08:13:03 2001 Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E3049F16 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toutatis ([65.5.98.96]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010504151014.OROH27407.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@toutatis> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:10:14 -0700 Received: from anmol by toutatis with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14vh8u-00008A-00 for ; Fri, 04 May 2001 08:05:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:05:16 -0700 From: Anmol Khirbat To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Message-ID: <20010504080516.A441@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi>; from virdi@softhome.net on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:08:54PM +0530 X-Archive-Number: 200105/28 X-Sequence-Number: 3740 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:08:54PM +0530, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote: > Does nebody have ne clue about win2K server and linux dual booting ?? > Check out the Linux+NT-Loader mini HOWTO. bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 08:31:08 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B40214A06B for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25000 invoked by uid 417); 4 May 2001 15:29:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.22) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 4 May 2001 15:29:21 -0000 Message-ID: <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> <20010504080516.A441@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:59:10 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/29 X-Sequence-Number: 3741 : Check out the Linux+NT-Loader mini HOWTO. : yaar wint nt _ linux mini how to is based on the boot.ini in winnt , win2k doesn't have ne such file.. booting mechanism of win2k &win nt is different.... ne ideas.... -js From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 09:23:18 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6A04A164 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.197.229.18]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 51CD940AFA for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 21:50:05 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000f01c0d51e$ece5eb40$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> <20010504080516.A441@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:50:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/30 X-Sequence-Number: 3742 i think u should go for loadlin option that can help u goin to linux from win2k but if u are seing for pertiuclar dual booter then i cant help it ----- Original Message ----- From: Anmol Khirbat To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:08:54PM +0530, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote: > > > Does nebody have ne clue about win2K server and linux dual booting ?? > > > > Check out the Linux+NT-Loader mini HOWTO. > > bye :) > Anmol > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 09:33:32 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.phoenixiad.com [206.204.22.3]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2DB4A164 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quake.phoenixiad.com (quake.phoenixiad.com [206.204.22.161]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24733 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:31:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.phoenixiad.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09874 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:32:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.phoenixiad.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: khirbat@yahoo.com X-Sender: anmol@quake.phoenixiad.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot In-Reply-To: <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/31 X-Sequence-Number: 3743 On Fri, 4 May 2001, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote: > : Check out the Linux+NT-Loader mini HOWTO. > : > > > yaar wint nt _ linux mini how to is based on the boot.ini in winnt , win2k > doesn't have ne such file.. > booting mechanism of win2k &win nt is different.... > ne ideas.... AFAIK, NT and 2000 boot the same way. The only windows 2000 system I ever came across *did* have the boot.ini file and following the instructions in the mini-HOWTO worked fine. Windows 2000 probably hides boot.ini since it's a ``system'' file. http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+windows+2000+boot.ini bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 11:56:42 2001 Received: from web14207.mail.yahoo.com (web14207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.71]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86DFE4A190 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:56:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010504185414.18248.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.56.227.248] by web14207.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 19:54:14 BST Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:54:14 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?vivek=20Iyyer?= Subject: please unsubscribe To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <000f01c0d51e$ece5eb40$09c0c0c0@mac15> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/32 X-Sequence-Number: 3744 --- kshounish wrote: > i think u should go for loadlin option > that can help u goin to linux from win2k > but if u are seing for pertiuclar dual booter then i > cant help it > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anmol Khirbat > To: > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:05 AM > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux > dual boot > > > > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 02:08:54PM +0530, Jasmeet > S. Virdi wrote: > > > > > Does nebody have ne clue about win2K server and > linux dual booting ?? > > > > > > > Check out the Linux+NT-Loader mini HOWTO. > > > > bye :) > > Anmol > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ===== Do you bury me when I'm gone?Do you teach me while I'm here?Just as soon as I belongThen it's time I disappear!! --Metallica ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 Transform your life & life of those you love: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 13:17:43 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (oe25.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.8.82]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B426D4A036 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:15:19 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [202.9.153.126] From: "A.Bajaj" To: Subject: Linux security features Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 01:51:56 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2001 20:15:19.0064 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0932980:01C0D4D6] X-Archive-Number: 200105/34 X-Sequence-Number: 3746 Hi, Some time back, I had made a project in UNIX, C++ (front end) Sybase(back end). I gave the viva for it yesterday. The professor asked me many questions, one of them was why is the security of Unix/Linux better than Windows NT. I mentioned the hierarchical directory structure in Unix. I was also going to mention Roles, Permissions etc, but that was all there in Win NT. That got me thinking is there not much of a difference security wise in Unix/Linux Vs Win NT. Yours sincerely, Aditya Bajaj There are some things worth dying for. ... Kirk, 'Errand of Mercy,' stardate 3201.7.. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 21:43:04 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607404A189 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 21:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghane by texas.dotxtra.com with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14vtrz-0004hR-00; Fri, 04 May 2001 23:40:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 23:40:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Sanjeev Gupta To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot In-Reply-To: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/35 X-Sequence-Number: 3747 On Fri, 4 May 2001, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote: > or does nebody know how win2K bootloader works (ok ok, i know its a linux > list, but i need this info to make it dual boot) Install LILO on the linux partition, NOT the Partition Table (eg, on /dev/hda2 , not /dev/hda ) In Linux, mount your W2k partition, writable. dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/win2k/bootsect.lnx count=1 bs=512 Boot Windows. Edit boot.ini , add a line like Linux=c:\bootsect.lnx At reboot, you will see a menu with "Linux", select to hand control to lilo. Remember to redo the dd line each time you re-run lilo. I sugegst placing such a line in your shutdown script. This works, tested. I am away from my home machine, contact me if you need a boot.ini -- Sanjeev "ghane" Gupta Mob: +65 98551208 dotXtra Pte Ltd Fax: +65 2275776 Singapore email: ghane@dotxtra.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 4 22:25:27 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB6049F1E for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghane by texas.dotxtra.com with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14vuX3-0004lO-00; Sat, 05 May 2001 00:23:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:23:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Sanjeev Gupta To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot In-Reply-To: <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/36 X-Sequence-Number: 3748 On Fri, 4 May 2001, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote: > yaar wint nt _ linux mini how to is based on the boot.ini in winnt , win2k > doesn't have ne such file.. I am running Win2K Professional, Build 2195 (IIRC), and it has a boot.ini > booting mechanism of win2k &win nt is different.... Possibly. -- Sanjeev "ghane" Gupta Mob: +65 98551208 dotXtra Pte Ltd Fax: +65 2275776 Singapore email: ghane@dotxtra.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 5 13:09:48 2001 Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com (web11004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.54]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86AF84A144 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010505200723.66592.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.107.13.201] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 05 May 2001 13:07:23 PDT Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 13:07:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Naresh Narang Subject: Gnome login To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <15059.12792.770686.509249@mail.linux-delhi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/37 X-Sequence-Number: 3749 Hi I have a problem with gdm. If my login shell is csh or tcsh and I try to login into Gnome desktop it accepts the login, opens session and the immediately closes it and brings back to login window. If I login from command prompt and then startx, there is no problem. There is no problem if login shell is sh or bash. I suspect there is some library issue. Thanks, Naresh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 6 00:02:16 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54E9449F30 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 00:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Sat May 5 23:59:38 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 12:29:38 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: MySQL start problem X-Sender-Ip: 216.104.228.116 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/38 X-Sequence-Number: 3750 Hi i m facin prob in startin mysql. when i start mysqld from /usr/local/mysql-3.22.32-pc-linux-gnu-i686/support-files/mysql.server start i get message [root@main support-files]# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /usr/local/mysql/data mysqld daemon ended in error file located in data/hostname.err it shows following reason mysqld started on Sun May 6 12:07:06 IST 2001 010506 12:07:06 Found old style password for user 'xyz'. Restart using --old-protocol mysqld ended on Sun May 6 12:07:06 IST 2001 Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 6 00:08:10 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD54A49F30 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 00:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Sun May 6 00:05:32 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 12:35:32 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Gnome login X-Sender-Ip: 216.104.228.147 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 981 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/39 X-Sequence-Number: 3751 hi pls refer to xsession.error(or some .X****.errors file if using Rhat) file in ur home dir manish -- On Sat, 5 May 2001 13:07:23 Naresh Narang wrote: >Hi > > I have a problem with gdm. If my login shell is >csh or tcsh and I try to login into Gnome desktop it >accepts the login, opens session and the immediately >closes it and brings back to login window. If I login >from command prompt and then startx, there is no >problem. There is no problem if login shell is sh or >bash. I suspect there is some library issue. > >Thanks, >Naresh > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 6 01:19:30 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98B944A134 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 01:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Sun May 6 01:16:52 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 13:46:52 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: MySQL start problem X-Sender-Ip: 216.104.228.157 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 1229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/40 X-Sequence-Number: 3752 hi start mysql in safe mode by ./bin/safe_mysqld --user=root --pid-file=/home/mysql/var/mysql.pid --datadir=/usr/local/mysql/data/ --old-protocol & then login in mysql as root and fix the problem manish -- On Sun, 06 May 2001 12:29:38 manish k arya wrote: >Hi > i m facin prob in startin mysql. >when i start mysqld from >/usr/local/mysql-3.22.32-pc-linux-gnu-i686/support-files/mysql.server start > >i get message > > >[root@main support-files]# Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /usr/local/mysql/data >mysqld daemon ended > >in error file located in data/hostname.err >it shows following reason > >mysqld started on Sun May 6 12:07:06 IST 2001 >010506 12:07:06 Found old style password for user 'xyz'. Restart using --old-protocol >mysqld ended on Sun May 6 12:07:06 IST 2001 > > > >Get 250 color business cards for FREE! >http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 6 21:08:49 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7BBC4A01C for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11015 invoked by uid 417); 7 May 2001 04:06:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.21) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 7 May 2001 04:06:55 -0000 Message-ID: <003101c0d6ab$14fe3690$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> <000801c0d49f$07cfee90$af10a8c0@bank.com> <004201c0d4a5$51055450$6e1a11ac@virdi> <001701c0d54a$0d008d10$af10a8c0@bank.com> Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:36:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/41 X-Sequence-Number: 3753 sorry folks (esp khirbat@yahoo.com ), all versions of win2K have boot.ini, u just have to enable ur explorer to show the system files to u. check out http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q99/7/43.ASP for boot.ini. sorry for bothering u i was able to successfully boot both...using win2K loader. -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjay Gupta" To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot : It will be the C Drive partition : on Win 2k. Do prepare the emergency : boot disk of both win2k and linux : so that in case of problem you can use it : to reconfigure it. In win2k there is a command : FIXMBR to fix the boot loader problem. : : If you have installed win2k first and then : linux then there shud not be any problem. : just configure other os as dos. : : Sanjay : ----- Original Message ----- : From: Jasmeet S. Virdi : To: : Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:50 PM : Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot : : : > sanjay sorry for shifting into this mode , mail u personal : > : > : > the thing is i am not in a position to take risk.. : > actually this thing is at my office : > i installed win2K peacefully, then i installed linux, just kept the boot : > floppy and did not install lilo : > c i have a 20 GN disk with five partittions : > 5GB : win2K NTFS : > 15 GB :win2K NTFS : > 1.5 GB: linux / : > 20 MB: linux boot : > rest : linux /home : > now my linux bootloader is installed on the /boot partition : > the thing i am not sure of is where is my win 2K bnootloader, : > is it on hda or hda1, : > i know if i loose win2K on hda i can get it again on hda1, i mean if i : tell : > lilo to check for the bootloader on hda and it misses i can tell it to : check : > for it on hda1, but as i said i can't take the risk of reinstalling Win2K : > : > so what i want from u is a complete procedure as to how shud i go about : > doing it.. : > i know how to make entries in lilo and rereun it (i have a system at home : > with 5 OS, 98, NT, Redhat, Mandrake, BeOS), the only problem in this case : is : > the bootloading process of win2K, Nt has a boot.ini which stores all the : > info, i could not find nething like this in Win2K... : > : > c if my mail sounds confusing, do tell me :-) : > : > waiting for ur reply.. : > : > -js : > ------ Original Message ----- : > From: "Sanjay Gupta" : > To: : > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:05 PM : > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot : > : > : > : thru linuxconf : > : in lilo configure the other os as : > : dos and the device in which yr win2k is loaded. : > : from hash prompt run lilo. : > : this should work. : > : : > : i have installed both win2k and linus rhl 6.2 dual boot. : > : : > : Sanjay Gupta : > : : > : ----- Original Message ----- : > : From: Jasmeet S. Virdi : > : To: : > : Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:08 PM : > : Subject: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot : > : : > : : > : > Does nebody have ne clue about win2K server and linux dual booting ?? : > : > : > : > or does nebody know how win2K bootloader works (ok ok, i know its a : > linux : > : > list, but i need this info to make it dual boot) : > : > : > : > ne ideas ?? : > : > i am using win2K server and Mandrake 7.2 : > : > i installed win2K then : > : > mandrake (it did not detect the win2K NTFS partitions) : > : > i am currently booting thru floopy... : > : > : > : > -jasmeet : > : > : > : > : > : > ------------------------------------------------ : > : > The mailing list archives are available at : > : > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi : > : > : > : : > : : > : ------------------------------------------------ : > : An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : > : your subscription with this mailing list is at : > : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : > : : > : : From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 6 21:22:50 2001 Received: from cy233.myhome.com (unknown [203.122.42.110]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E925949F02 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netshooter.com (IDENT:sudhir@cy233.myhome.com [192.168.1.5]) by cy233.myhome.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00914; Mon, 7 May 2001 09:47:30 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF621DA.3F26A293@netshooter.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 09:47:30 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra Organization: Communicators - IIPL http://netshooter.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: COMMERCIAL : Openings for Linux trained personnel at Delhi! 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Sudhir Gandotra Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 Transform your life & life of those you love: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 02:44:29 2001 Received: from cy233.myhome.com (unknown [203.122.42.110]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8324A071 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 02:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netshooter.com (IDENT:sudhir@cy233.myhome.com [192.168.1.5]) by cy233.myhome.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00821; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:09:06 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF66D3A.FFAAEF86@netshooter.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:09:06 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra Organization: Communicators - IIPL http://netshooter.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Argentina Govt. offices to use open source software - why cant India do it ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/43 X-Sequence-Number: 3755 Wired article on Argentina: Argentina may become the first country in the world to require all government offices to use open-source software, pending the outcome of a bill recently introduced in the nation's congress. [http://wired.com/news/business/0,1367,43529,00.html] Maybe, we need to launch a strong Linux advocacy effort in India ! Anyone interested in such an effort ? Let's start discussing the implementation of such an effort. Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 Transform your life & life of those you love: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 02:51:21 2001 Received: from cy233.myhome.com (unknown [203.122.42.110]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234454A071 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 02:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netshooter.com (IDENT:sudhir@cy233.myhome.com [192.168.1.5]) by cy233.myhome.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00828; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:15:49 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:15:49 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra Organization: Communicators - IIPL http://netshooter.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/44 X-Sequence-Number: 3756 List, I would like to know the opinions from Linux users on different distributions, based on just the one criteria : Ease of installation for the new person; New person's profile can be taken as a person who gets a Linux distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to install it and use it. At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop with M$office and IE or Netscape for his mail and browsing. Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a newbie to switch-over to Linux ? Once again, just your own view, without any intention (on my part) to start a discussion/flames/etc.... on this point. Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 Transform your life & life of those you love: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 02:55:40 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D4E49F02 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 02:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghane by texas.dotxtra.com with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14whhW-00038y-00; Mon, 07 May 2001 04:53:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 04:53:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Sanjeev Gupta To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Cc: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! In-Reply-To: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/45 X-Sequence-Number: 3757 On Mon, 7 May 2001, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? I am a Debian "enthusiast", so I have an opinion on this: Not Debian. It is possible that Progeny might be better, but I have not tried it. I love Debian, but I do not think it would be a "newbie's" distribution. I would love to be wrong. -- Sanjeev "ghane" Gupta Mob: +65 98551208 dotXtra Pte Ltd Fax: +65 2275776 Singapore email: ghane@dotxtra.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 05:39:14 2001 Received: from ims0.psco.com (unknown [192.234.135.55]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D5C849F02 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 05:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 192.234.135.58 by ims0.psco.com with ESMTP (Tumbleweed MMS SMTP Relay (MMS v4.7)); Mon, 07 May 2001 06:40:29 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: 7f013f0a-b8b9-11d3-abe4-00062939023b Received: from mnmail02.nspco.com (MNMAIL02 [151.215.22.65]) by ims2.psco.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id HZC6YP07; Mon, 7 May 2001 06:35:48 -0600 Received: by mnmail02.nspco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 7 May 2001 07:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Kapoor, Nishikant X" To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:36:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) X-WSS-ID: 16E848372801813-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/46 X-Sequence-Number: 3758 > I would like to know the opinions from Linux users on different > distributions, based on just the one criteria : > Ease of installation for the new person; > New person's profile can be taken as a person who gets a Linux > distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to install it and use it. > At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop with M$office and IE > or Netscape for his mail and browsing. > > Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : > > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? > [Kapoor, Nishikant] I have installed Slackware, Redhat, TurboLinux and Caldera. Caldera seems to have come up with a fancy installation interface in their latest release (eDesktop 2.4) but I would still pick Redhat for its simple installation interface and the support for a wide range of devices. Nishi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 08:13:57 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 927514A019 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18211 invoked by uid 417); 7 May 2001 15:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.140.243) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 7 May 2001 15:12:17 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c0d3d1$0cf48170$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:30:31 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/47 X-Sequence-Number: 3759 > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? Mandrake From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 22:00:14 2001 Received: from mindcomp.org.org (unknown [216.236.197.246]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A964A140 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from themindbank.com (IDENT:goldwyn@Mindcomp [127.0.0.1]) by mindcomp.org.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f48512B01245 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:31:07 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF77D8D.DCB5ECAD@themindbank.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:31:01 +0530 From: Goldwyn Rodrigues Organization: MindBank X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/48 X-Sequence-Number: 3760 I found Mandrake more simpler than Redhat (personal opinion) > > > [Kapoor, Nishikant] I have installed Slackware, Redhat, TurboLinux > and Caldera. Caldera seems to have come up with a fancy installation > interface in their latest release (eDesktop 2.4) but I would still pick > Redhat for its simple installation interface and the support for a wide > range of devices. > > Nishi > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 22:40:21 2001 Received: from mindcomp.org (unknown [216.236.197.246]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B376C4A101 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from themindbank.com (IDENT:goldwyn@mindcomp.org [127.0.0.1]) by mindcomp.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f485f7501187 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:11:10 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF786F2.6A3DC4EB@themindbank.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:11:06 +0530 From: Goldwyn Rodrigues Organization: MindBank X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Hostname problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/49 X-Sequence-Number: 3761 While installing Linux I setup the hostname as abc.org and I setup the server name in the httpd.conf file also the same. However when I try to start the page with abc.org it gives me the squid error message that the url cud not be found. (I have squid also running as proxy on the same system).... and squid signs is it off as abc.org.org... now on keying in abc.org.org the index page comes on. checked pu the /etc/hosts file it contains abc.org... How can i restore the name to abc.org and not abc.org.org? Goldwyn :o) From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 23:16:25 2001 Received: from web8003.mail.in.yahoo.com (web8003.in.yahoo.com [203.199.70.21]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D1014A18A for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010508061629.17314.qmail@web8003.mail.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.217.147] by web8003.mail.in.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 07:16:29 BST Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:16:29 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Narsingh=20Sahu?= Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/50 X-Sequence-Number: 3762 Mandrake I haven't tried. But I would vote for Caldera as the best for a newbie. I have tried the Caldera OpenLinux eDesktop 2.4 and now am testing the beta version of Caldera 3.1. There are still some glitches, but it still beats most. -narsingh --- Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > List, > I would like to know the opinions from Linux users > on different > distributions, based on just the one criteria : > Ease of installation for the new person; > New person's profile can be taken as a person who > gets a Linux > distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to > install it and use it. > At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop > with M$office and IE > or Netscape for his mail and browsing. > > Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : > > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would > be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? > > Once again, just your own view, without any > intention (on my part) to > start a discussion/flames/etc.... on this point. > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 7 23:27:18 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7E44A101 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vsnl.com (unknown [203.197.222.164]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EA84105A for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:54:08 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <3AF79196.15D113C1@vsnl.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:56:30 +0530 From: "G. Palaniappan" Organization: Videsh Sanchar Nigam Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F9C3B6D3FB52769DEA76F0D5" X-Archive-Number: 200105/51 X-Sequence-Number: 3763 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F9C3B6D3FB52769DEA76F0D5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would recommend Mandrake for a biginner. Mandrake 7.2 to be specific as the latest 8.0 version is not stable. G. Palaniappan Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > List, > I would like to know the opinions from Linux users on different > distributions, based on just the one criteria : > Ease of installation for the new person; > New person's profile can be taken as a person who gets a Linux > distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to install it and use it. > At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop with M$office and IE > or Netscape for his mail and browsing. > > Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : > > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? > > Once again, just your own view, without any intention (on my part) to > start a discussion/flames/etc.... on this point. > > Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra > Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 > Transform your life & life of those you love: > http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr --------------F9C3B6D3FB52769DEA76F0D5 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="palani.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for G. Palaniappan Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="palani.vcf" begin:vcard n:Palaniappan;G tel;fax:+91(11)340 5978 tel;home:+91(11)680 5210 tel;work:+91(11)336 8204/340 5970 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://personal.vsnl.com/palani org:Videsh Sanchar Nigam Limited adr:;;Bangla Sahib Road;New Delhi;;110 001;India version:2.1 email;internet:palani@vsnl.com title:Senior General Manager fn:G. Palaniappan end:vcard --------------F9C3B6D3FB52769DEA76F0D5-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 00:45:08 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B9EF4A0B4 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 00:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15525 invoked by uid 417); 8 May 2001 07:43:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.21) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 8 May 2001 07:43:27 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c0d792$79505a00$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:10:13 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/52 X-Sequence-Number: 3764 i have tried RedHat 6.2 and Mandrake... i found installing redhat a bit tough for a newbie while mandrake was a breeze but then for an expert redhat provided a perfect platform -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sudhir Gandotra" To: ; Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! : List, : I would like to know the opinions from Linux users on different : distributions, based on just the one criteria : : Ease of installation for the new person; : New person's profile can be taken as a person who gets a Linux : distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to install it and use it. : At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop with M$office and IE : or Netscape for his mail and browsing. : : Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : : : In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a : newbie to switch-over to Linux ? : : Once again, just your own view, without any intention (on my part) to : start a discussion/flames/etc.... on this point. : : Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra : Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 : Transform your life & life of those you love: : http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html : : ------------------------------------------------ : An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : your subscription with this mailing list is at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 01:05:11 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746B04A13B for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d316.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.16]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E373F537 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 23:59:26 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40CDC2DDBD; Tue, 8 May 2001 06:35:19 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:35:18 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Message-ID: <20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ghane@texas.dotxtra.com on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:53:10AM -0500 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/53 X-Sequence-Number: 3765 On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:53:10AM -0500, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: >On Mon, 7 May 2001, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > >> In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a >> newbie to switch-over to Linux ? > >I am a Debian "enthusiast", so I have an opinion on this: Not Debian. > >It is possible that Progeny might be better, but I have not tried it. I >love Debian, but I do not think it would be a "newbie's" distribution. I >would love to be wrong. Oke doke Debian is not a newbee dist But progeny is definately anyday better the mandrake red hat or any rpm based thing for that matters deb based corel dist. or stormix Reasons *GUI install as easy as red hat. *Fully debian compatible so all the advance fun apt-get and stuff is there fr the taking also can any day upgrade urself to a debian box or upgrade a debian box to progeny. ;) I think V. krish was using Stormix and he was very happy with it But I haven't tried Stormix . it may also be a contender. Corel gets a big thumbs down . OK its very easy to install and fun but its vrey "closed" Actully Corel came with its dist because they needed a dist for corel phopaint and stuff so they came up with one of their own. In my opinion in the long run you will be happier with a debian based distribution. And I tried debian 2.0 when I was a "6 months old linux user" can i call myself a newbee I installed debian in 2-3 days and I am still on debian. ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: The last thing you need. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 01:05:22 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFB64A0B4 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:05:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d316.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.16]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965B33F527 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 23:59:26 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2EC82DDBB; Tue, 8 May 2001 06:12:55 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:12:55 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Message-ID: <20010508061255.B16530@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> <20010504080516.A441@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi>; from virdi@softhome.net on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 08:59:10PM +0530 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/54 X-Sequence-Number: 3766 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 08:59:10PM +0530, Jasmeet S. Virdi wrote: >: Check out the Linux+NT-Loader mini HOWTO. >: > > >yaar wint nt _ linux mini how to is based on the boot.ini in winnt , win2k >doesn't have ne such file.. Yes it does When i last saw it it had. >booting mechanism of win2k &win nt is different.... >ne ideas.... > > > >-js > > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: The last thing you need. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 01:05:31 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAD24A13B for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d316.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.16]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50F63F52B for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 23:59:26 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 341912DDBC; Tue, 8 May 2001 06:20:34 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 06:20:34 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features Message-ID: <20010508062034.C16530@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from adityabajaj@hotmail.com on Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:51:56AM +0530 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/55 X-Sequence-Number: 3767 On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:51:56AM +0530, A.Bajaj wrote: >Hi, > > Some time back, I had made a project in UNIX, C++ (front end) >Sybase(back end). I gave the viva for it yesterday. The professor >asked me many questions, one of them was why is the security of >Unix/Linux better than Windows NT. > I mentioned the hierarchical directory structure in Unix. I >was also going to mention Roles, Permissions etc, but that was >all there in Win NT. > >That got me thinking is there not much of a difference >security wise in Unix/Linux Vs Win NT. 1. Well Win NT is actully a posix complient system with a micro kernel So its actulla as unix like as any. 2. And With an intelligent Sys Admin Win NT box may be as secure as any other unix box ( just got to be on lists and keep track of bugs and fix's) And with a B.Sys.Admin.F.H an unix box is as insecure as any other machine on the planet. One of the advantage of running an open source Unix System is that bug fix's are much fast and support is easy to find. ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: The last thing you need. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:04:19 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAD74A0BC for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA07878 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005601c0d79d$fda83330$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> <3AF79196.15D113C1@vsnl.com> Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:03:22 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/56 X-Sequence-Number: 3768 > I would recommend Mandrake for a biginner. Mandrake 7.2 to be specific as > the latest 8.0 version is not stable. i found 8.0 to be quite stable. Also mandrake 8.0 makes a really good impression on linux beginners. It is really cool!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:04:29 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A534A1BC for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA07905 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005701c0d79e$030a38a0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> <20010504080516.A441@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:03:30 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/57 X-Sequence-Number: 3769 > yaar wint nt _ linux mini how to is based on the boot.ini in winnt , win2k > doesn't have ne such file.. > booting mechanism of win2k &win nt is different.... > ne ideas.... r u sure abt this... right now i am dual booting mandrake 8.0 and win2k pro using the win2k boot loader!!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:14:04 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5FA4A053 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10250 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007401c0d79f$585792c0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB53093060@MAIL2> Subject: Re: kgcc? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:44:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/58 X-Sequence-Number: 3770 > While doing the kernel compile on rh7.0 , i saw kgcc being used whereas 6.2 > used gcc. > There is no man page also for kgcc. > Can anyone tell me whats the difference between kgcc and gcc ? basically the gcc that comes with rh 7.0 is so broken, that it can't even compile the linux kernel. so redhat has in addition to the normal broken gcc put in an older gcc which can compile the kernel, and they have named it kgcc!!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:15:15 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C404A1C4 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA10545 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <008601c0d79f$86bd78f0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <20010503171655.7951.qmail@nwcst323.netaddress.usa.net> Subject: Re: vmware req. Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:45:49 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/59 X-Sequence-Number: 3771 > I just want to know which release/version of vmware is best and from where i > can download it. I also want to know can i run ms visual studio with vmware?? vmware is commercial software, and costs $$$s to buy. You can download it from www.vmware.com and ask for a 30 day eval license! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:31:49 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22FD44A17B for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 32719 invoked by uid 417); 8 May 2001 09:30:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.21) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 8 May 2001 09:30:04 -0000 Message-ID: <005001c0d7a1$627a42a0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <003701c0d475$a9de8a90$6e1a11ac@virdi> <20010504080516.A441@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> <004901c0d4ae$f98365f0$6e1a11ac@virdi> <005701c0d79e$030a38a0$b8036c96@ambar> Subject: Re: win2k server and linux dual boot Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:59:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/60 X-Sequence-Number: 3772 folks , i said i realised my mistake, win2K does have a boot.ini (all versions earlier i thot only win2K pro had) sometimes u jump to conclusions without checking out the whole thing, (happens always with me, :-) ) neway i am now successfully booting Mandrake 7.2 and Win 2K SErver using Win2K Loader -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ambar Roy" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] win2k server and linux dual boot : > yaar wint nt _ linux mini how to is based on the boot.ini in winnt , win2k : > doesn't have ne such file.. : > booting mechanism of win2k &win nt is different.... : > ne ideas.... : r u sure abt this... right now i am dual booting mandrake 8.0 and win2k pro : using the win2k boot loader!!! : : Bye, : /\ |\/| |3 /\ r : : : : ------------------------------------------------ : An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : your subscription with this mailing list is at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:41:11 2001 Received: from web13004.mail.yahoo.com (web13004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.14]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAB574A140 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010508093759.25281.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.89.74] by web13004.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 02:37:59 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 02:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: harshal vaidya Subject: Re: vmware req. To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <20010503171655.7951.qmail@nwcst323.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/61 X-Sequence-Number: 3773 hi , you can download from www.vmware.com --- Vivek khurana wrote: > Hi:-) > I just want to know which release/version of > vmware is best and from where i > can download it. I also want to know can i run ms > visual studio with vmware?? > Bye > vivek > > Software is like sex; its good only when it comes > free > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at > http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 02:45:22 2001 Received: from web13001.mail.yahoo.com (web13001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.11]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 248624A1CB for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010508094250.22925.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.89.74] by web13001.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 02:42:50 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 02:42:50 -0700 (PDT) From: harshal vaidya Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/62 X-Sequence-Number: 3774 red hat linux 7.0 is my answer. --- Sudhir Gandotra wrote: > List, > I would like to know the opinions from Linux users > on different > distributions, based on just the one criteria : > Ease of installation for the new person; > New person's profile can be taken as a person who > gets a Linux > distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to > install it and use it. > At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop > with M$office and IE > or Netscape for his mail and browsing. > > Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : > > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would > be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? > > Once again, just your own view, without any > intention (on my part) to > start a discussion/flames/etc.... on this point. > > Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir > Gandotra > Humanist news & plans at > http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 > Transform your life & life of those you > love: > http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 04:30:22 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f131.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180E34A1BF for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 04:30:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 May 2001 04:27:45 -0700 Received: from 203.122.3.65 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 May 2001 11:27:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.122.3.65] From: "nitin batra" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:27:45 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 11:27:45.0358 (UTC) FILETIME=[E725EEE0:01C0D7B1] X-Archive-Number: 200105/63 X-Sequence-Number: 3775 Forgive me for my ignorance !!! as I havent had enterprise experience in either NT or UNIX enviorment But what u said made me take a notice >>And With an intelligent Sys Admin Win NT box may be as secure as any other unix box As i said I dont have had any experience but this is very much opposite to my perceprtion of the two family of OS reffered here Could you elaborate on your views >> Then why the NT is consistently singled out for being such a poor system No one says that it doesnt have good features in it But then ???? hasnt the final word been said @ www.unix-vs-nt.org Thanks Nitin Batra --JUST another unix newbie!!!!! On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 01:51:56AM +0530, A.Bajaj wrote: >Hi, > > Some time back, I had made a project in UNIX, C++ (front end) >Sybase(back end). I gave the viva for it yesterday. The professor >asked me many questions, one of them was why is the security of >Unix/Linux better than Windows NT. > I mentioned the hierarchical directory structure in Unix. I >was also going to mention Roles, Permissions etc, but that was >all there in Win NT. > >That got me thinking is there not much of a difference >security wise in Unix/Linux Vs Win NT. 1. Well Win NT is actully a posix complient system with a micro kernel So its actulla as unix like as any. 2. And With an intelligent Sys Admin Win NT box may be as secure as any other unix box ( just got to be on lists and keep track of bugs and fix's) And with a B.Sys.Admin.F.H an unix box is as insecure as any other machine on the planet. One of the advantage of running an open source Unix System is that bug fix's are much fast and support is easy to find. ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: The last thing you need. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 05:22:20 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.214]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F7AA4A0BC for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:19:47 -0700 Received: from 202.9.153.245 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 May 2001 12:19:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.9.153.245] From: "Ajay Kumar" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 17:49:47 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 12:19:47.0352 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C006980:01C0D7B9] X-Archive-Number: 200105/64 X-Sequence-Number: 3776 I am using Red Hat 7.0. Its very easy to install, compatible to newer devices and chipsets, availability of packages and its market share. I think for a newbie Red Hat is great. Ajay kumar Strength is life and weakness is death. (Swami Vevekanand) >From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" >Reply-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org >To: >Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! >Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:10:13 +0530 > >i have tried RedHat 6.2 and Mandrake... >i found installing redhat a bit tough for a newbie while mandrake was a >breeze but then for an expert redhat provided a perfect platform >-js >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Sudhir Gandotra" >To: ; > >Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:15 PM >Subject: [linux-delhi] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! > > >: List, >: I would like to know the opinions from Linux users on different >: distributions, based on just the one criteria : >: Ease of installation for the new person; >: New person's profile can be taken as a person who gets a Linux >: distribution CD and he is on hos own and wants to install it and use it. >: At the most he has been using windoze on a desktop with M$office and IE >: or Netscape for his mail and browsing. >: >: Hence, the question, to be answered, can be : >: >: In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a >: newbie to switch-over to Linux ? >: >: Once again, just your own view, without any intention (on my part) to >: start a discussion/flames/etc.... on this point. >: >: Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra >: Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 >: Transform your life & life of those you love: >: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html >: >: ------------------------------------------------ >: An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >: your subscription with this mailing list is at >: http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr >: > > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 12:01:13 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [210.214.94.180]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A86349F2F for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f48JDof01224; Wed, 9 May 2001 00:43:50 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> <20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 09 May 2001 00:43:49 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> Message-ID: Lines: 80 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/65 X-Sequence-Number: 3777 I have some opinions (not onions:) about this: First of all, I have been using RPM based systems since about 4 years, and really, rpm has never given me any trouble. Many source tarballs now include a .spec file, from which you can make a custom RPM of your own very easily and use normal rpm commands to add/erase that software. Very nifty indeed. apt-get in debian is indeed cool. But for most home (and even office) users in India, it is pretty useless because of the limited bandwidth. Most people would rather manage their downloads themselves on their modems rather than giving it to apt-get (which I think will download the dependencies serially, i.e. one-by-one, correct me if I'm wrong). Atleast with Redhat, I have only rarely have problems finding the correct package at rpmfind.net. Debian Potato is very stable, but is horribly out-of-date. Woody is getting pretty nice, but CDs are hard to get. Stormix is out-of-business. Progeny I've heard is cool, but can't comment as I have'nt used it. Mandrake includes some of the bleeding edge software (8.0 comes with Gnome-1.4 and KDE 2.2.1), but is really unstable as I've heard. Redhat as you might have noticed, tries to minimise new software in its dot.1 and dot.2 releases. Redhat 7.0 had a lot of new software (XFree 4, new gcc, new kernel compatibility) and was a little shaky, but expect Redhat 7.1 to be ROCK solid in every sense. Just my 2 paise. Loki. >>>>> "Pankaj" == Pankaj Kaushal writes: Pankaj> On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:53:10AM -0500, Sanjeev Gupta Pankaj> wrote: >> On Mon, 7 May 2001, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: >>> In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest >>> for a newbie to switch-over to Linux ? >> I am a Debian "enthusiast", so I have an opinion on this: Not >> Debian. >> >> It is possible that Progeny might be better, but I have not >> tried it. I love Debian, but I do not think it would be a >> "newbie's" distribution. I would love to be wrong. Pankaj> Oke doke Debian is not a newbee dist But progeny is Pankaj> definately anyday better the mandrake red hat or any rpm Pankaj> based thing for that matters deb based corel dist. or Pankaj> stormix Pankaj> Reasons Pankaj> *GUI install as easy as red hat. *Fully debian compatible Pankaj> so all the advance fun apt-get and stuff is there fr the Pankaj> taking also can any day upgrade urself to a debian box or Pankaj> upgrade a debian box to progeny. ;) Pankaj> I think V. krish was using Stormix and he was very happy Pankaj> with it But I haven't tried Stormix . it may also be a Pankaj> contender. Corel gets a big thumbs down . OK its very Pankaj> easy to install and fun but its vrey "closed" Actully Pankaj> Corel came with its dist because they needed a dist for Pankaj> corel phopaint and stuff so they came up with one of their Pankaj> own. Pankaj> In my opinion in the long run you will be happier with a Pankaj> debian based distribution. Pankaj> And I tried debian 2.0 when I was a "6 months old linux Pankaj> user" can i call myself a newbee I installed debian in 2-3 Pankaj> days and I am still on debian. -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 12:19:04 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B7D4A0BC for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 12:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.197.229.19]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B58840B8C for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 00:46:25 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000d01c0d85c$30281d20$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: References: <3AF786F2.6A3DC4EB@themindbank.com> Subject: Re: Hostname problem Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 00:46:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/66 X-Sequence-Number: 3778 go to /etc/sysconfig/networks there u put hostname=abc then write abc.org in ur /etc/hosts file it will run well or go as following net conf-> basic host information-> hostname abc primery+domain name : abc.org then do w\quit then do $hostname -d it will show u org then do $hostname -f it will show abc.org then everything will be fine regards ----- Original Message ----- From: Goldwyn Rodrigues To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Hostname problem > While installing Linux I setup the hostname as abc.org > and I setup the server name in the httpd.conf file also the same. > However when I try to start the page with abc.org it gives me the squid > error message that the url cud not be found. (I have squid also running > as proxy on the same system).... and squid signs is it off as > abc.org.org... now on keying in abc.org.org the index page comes on. > checked pu the /etc/hosts file it contains abc.org... > How can i restore the name to abc.org and not abc.org.org? > > Goldwyn :o) > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 13:34:25 2001 Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70064A0DF for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i8000 (we-24-130-20-13.we.mediaone.net [24.130.20.13]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f48KVEd27664 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <006101c0d7fd$c1faf100$7001a8c0@i8000> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com><20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:30:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/67 X-Sequence-Number: 3779 If you ask me, I would definitely choose RH 7.1. That's what I am running on my laptop. It recognized all 512MB of RAM that I have, I am running it at 1600x1200 pixels in 32bit resolution. My video and sound card, NIC, firewire, USB, and everything else except win (damn, Microsoft!!) modem works just fine. Installs easy and runs smooth. For a laptop I would definitely use RH. Although while ago when I had tiny Thinkpad 240 without built in CD drive Mandrake 7.0 was the only one that properly initialized my PCMCIA IDE DVD adapter so I could install Mandrake from external CD/DVD drive. After that I managed to install RH from hard drive, but RH install program wouldn't recognize my PCMCIA IDE DVD adapter. Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 20:58:44 2001 Received: from cy233.myhome.com (unknown [203.122.42.110]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA72349F15 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netshooter.com (IDENT:sudhir@cy233.myhome.com [192.168.1.5]) by cy233.myhome.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00861; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:23:02 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF8BF1E.B1962DB3@netshooter.com> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:23:02 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra Organization: Communicators - IIPL http://netshooter.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Linux in Latin American business users! 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Sudhir Gandotra Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 Transform your life & life of those you love: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 21:05:33 2001 Received: from ems.hclinsys.com (unknown [203.90.70.242]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDD64A0BC for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fireball (fireball [192.168.2.1]) by ems.hclinsys.com with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA14739 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:34:16 +0530 (IST) Received: from hclinsys.com (IDENT:root@mispmo [151.8.1.24]) by hclinsys.com mailho (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id JAA28667 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:24:33 +0530 Received: from hclinsys.com ([151.8.20.5]) by hclinsys.com mispmo (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id JAA03703 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:21:28 +0530 Message-ID: <3AF8C031.B350DB6C@hclinsys.com> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:27:37 +0530 From: P Subashini X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lin Subject: Dat support under Caldera linux 2.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/69 X-Sequence-Number: 3781 Dear all, I want to know ,whether Sony or HP Dat is supported under Caldera linux 2.4 .If so,how can i utilise it?Normally in redhat linux 7.0,KDat utility is available.Like that , any similar utility available in Caldera 2.4? Waiting to know this. Rgds, suba From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 22:58:03 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9202E4A0FE for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 22:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24905 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 01:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002301c0d84d$227ccea0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <20010508094250.22925.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:28:50 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/70 X-Sequence-Number: 3782 > red hat linux 7.0 > is my answer. i wudn't even ask an experienced linux guy to install rh 7.0... it is complete crap... Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 8 23:08:43 2001 Received: from web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com (web8004.in.yahoo.com [203.199.70.64]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7C4B49EFB for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 23:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010509060600.90288.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.217.153] by web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 May 2001 07:06:00 BST Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:06:00 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Narsingh=20Sahu?= Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/71 X-Sequence-Number: 3783 But don't you think RH 7.0 lacked a great deal which made many people wait for RH 7.1? Now that it's out may be worth a try. In any case RH 7.0 was buggy. -narsingh --- Ajay Kumar wrote: > I am using Red Hat 7.0. Its very easy to install, > compatible to newer > devices and chipsets, availability of packages and > its market share. I think > for a newbie Red Hat is great. ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 04:23:33 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1095C49F63 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 04:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d326.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.26]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F45C3F3EB for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:51:01 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E55CC2DDBB; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:20:33 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:20:33 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Message-ID: <20010509072033.B21323@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> <20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lsetia78@yahoo.com on Wed, May 09, 2001 at 12:43:49AM +0530 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/72 X-Sequence-Number: 3784 On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 12:43:49AM +0530, Lokesh Setia wrote: > >I have some opinions (not onions:) about this: > >First of all, I have been using RPM based systems since about 4 years, >and really, rpm has never given me any trouble. Many source tarballs >now include a .spec file, from which you can make a custom RPM of your >own very easily and use normal rpm commands to add/erase that >software. Very nifty indeed. Oke doke,Agreed rpm is (not) All that Bad. and Agreed That Red Hat is not All That evil. ;) compared to M$. > >apt-get in debian is indeed cool. But for most home (and even office) >users in India, it is pretty useless because of the limited bandwidth. >Most people would rather manage their downloads themselves on their >modems rather than giving it to apt-get (which I think will download >the dependencies serially, i.e. one-by-one, correct me if I'm wrong). >Atleast with Redhat, I have only rarely have problems finding the >correct package at rpmfind.net. Come on man . Either you are not well informed or you have't tried the powers of apt. Lets Say you are running a business webserver. And sme one finds a vunerablity will u try to find the patch or upgrade frm rpmfind.net and then spend pricious time paching and if something goes wrong when updating unofficial rpms or some dependency problem. or rather do $apt-get update $apt-get upgrade and drink coffe ;) > >Debian Potato is very stable, but is horribly out-of-date. Woody is >getting pretty nice, but CDs are hard to get. Stormix is >out-of-business. Progeny I've heard is cool, but can't comment as I >have'nt used it. Ya but for a home box you can use unstable woody and upgrade ever week > >Mandrake includes some of the bleeding edge software (8.0 comes with >Gnome-1.4 and KDE 2.2.1), but is really unstable as I've heard. Its there for debian too Just need to find it. Because when I started my previous mail The first line was debain is not for newbees but a debina based dist. -- X windows: Something you can be ashamed of. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 04:23:38 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE44249F5F for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 04:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d326.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.26]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1823F3D6 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:51:01 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1DCC2DDBA; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:10:47 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:10:47 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Message-ID: <20010509071047.A21323@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com><20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> <006101c0d7fd$c1faf100$7001a8c0@i8000> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <006101c0d7fd$c1faf100$7001a8c0@i8000>; from linux_user@fnmail.com on Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:30:40PM -0700 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/73 X-Sequence-Number: 3785 On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 01:30:40PM -0700, Dina-natha Das wrote: >If you ask me, I would definitely choose RH 7.1. > >That's what I am running on my laptop. It recognized all 512MB of RAM that I Its Not cuz of Red Hat its the kernel. >have, I am running it at 1600x1200 pixels in 32bit resolution. My video and >sound card, NIC, firewire, USB, and everything else except win (damn, >Microsoft!!) modem works just fine. Again, Its Not cuz of Red Hat its X4 plus Kernel All dist have this stuff. >Installs easy and runs smooth. > >For a laptop I would definitely use RH. Although while ago when I had tiny >Thinkpad 240 without built in CD drive Mandrake 7.0 was the only one that >properly initialized my PCMCIA IDE DVD adapter so I could install Mandrake >from external CD/DVD drive. After that I managed to install RH from hard >drive, but RH install program wouldn't recognize my PCMCIA IDE DVD adapter. > >Dnd. -- X windows: Something you can be ashamed of. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 06:26:50 2001 Received: from valium.lu.com (unknown [203.122.32.98]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C4DF4A1DC for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13709 invoked by alias); 9 May 2001 13:24:01 -0000 Received: from mithun.internal.egurucool.com (HELO egurucool.com) (10.40.2.25) by valium.internal.egurucool.com with SMTP; 9 May 2001 13:24:01 -0000 Message-ID: <3AF944F1.D235DB98@egurucool.com> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:54:01 +0530 From: Mithun Bhattacharya Organization: Learning Universe [http://www.egurucool.com] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> <20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> <20010509072033.B21323@black-satan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/74 X-Sequence-Number: 3786 Hmm I wonder how many people on this list has actually used the RedHat Update. I have been using it for about a week or so and I say it is a pretty good alternative for apt-get. Unlike what the rumor mills said up2date is not a paid service - you just need to create a userid password. What that will do is accumulate all the hardware and software information for all the PC's you would like to club together. So I have like 10 workstations clubbed into one. It gives me a one place to look up what all needs to be upgraded and where... All the information I upload to RedHat is optional. I could very well just create a account without sending any hardware information. Also whenever a critical software update is out a email is sent to me as a reminder - I think the email was also a optional field. Up2date has a pretty good graphical interface to select what packages to install and the package description. It also lists the latest advicories which are applicable to my particular workstation. As for the apt-get enthusiasts I would like to hear how difficult it is to click on the up2date icon and then clicking on update all button ??? As for people who imagine RedHat users go ahead and install whatever software they feel like I would like to ask a simple question is there anything preventing a user from going ahead and installing a .deb file from anywhere on the net ?? Also I do hope the official patches and updates are available on ftp://updates.redhat.com and the mirror sites listed in http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html Those who like bleeding edge stuff they need to compiles from tar balls irrespective of whether they are a Debian user or a RedHat. What I think is happening here is that people blindly like to bash RedHat just because too many novice users are on it and they are not able to defend themselves from the Debian folks. Mithun From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 06:42:18 2001 Received: from winnt_4.infogain.com (unknown [207.82.165.31]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC6849EFC for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by WINNT_4 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:10:21 +0530 Message-ID: <310C7BE7CAC2D411AA5E0080C851C8FE5BFEE1@WINNT_4> From: Support To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: RE: Somebody downloading RHL7.1 ? Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:10:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/75 X-Sequence-Number: 3787 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandip Bhattacharya [SMTP:sandipb@bigfoot.com] > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 12:09 AM > To: Linux Users Group Delhi > Subject: [linux-delhi] Somebody downloading RHL7.1 ? > > Hey! > Is anybody downloading Redhat Linux 7.1 ISOs??? Pankaj? IF you are, > please please holler. And if you cutting CDs count me in, I will get > in touch immdlty with as many CDRs as required.... SARAI folks?? hint, > hint!! ;) > > - Sandip > -- > ------------------------------------- > Sandip Bhattacharya > sandipb @ bigfoot.com > http://www.sandipb.net > ------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 06:42:35 2001 Received: from winnt_4.infogain.com (unknown [207.82.165.31]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0EA49EFC for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by WINNT_4 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:11:03 +0530 Message-ID: <310C7BE7CAC2D411AA5E0080C851C8FE5BFEE5@WINNT_4> From: Support To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: RE: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:11:02 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/76 X-Sequence-Number: 3788 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mithun Bhattacharya [SMTP:mithun.b@egurucool.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:54 PM > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! > > Hmm I wonder how many people on this list has actually used the RedHat > Update. I have been using it for about a week or so and I say it is a > pretty good alternative for apt-get. Unlike what the rumor mills said > up2date is not a paid service - you just need to create a userid > password. What that will do is accumulate all the hardware and software > information for all the PC's you would like to club together. So I have > like 10 workstations clubbed into one. It gives me a one place to look > up what all needs to be upgraded and where... All the information I > upload to RedHat is optional. I could very well just create a account > without sending any hardware information. Also whenever a critical > software update is out a email is sent to me as a reminder - I think the > email was also a optional field. > > Up2date has a pretty good graphical interface to select what packages to > install and the package description. It also lists the latest advicories > which are applicable to my particular workstation. As for the apt-get > enthusiasts I would like to hear how difficult it is to click on the > up2date icon and then clicking on update all button ??? > > As for people who imagine RedHat users go ahead and install whatever > software they feel like I would like to ask a simple question is there > anything preventing a user from going ahead and installing a .deb file > from anywhere on the net ?? Also I do hope the official patches and > updates are available on ftp://updates.redhat.com and the mirror sites > listed in http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html Those who like bleeding > edge stuff they need to compiles from tar balls irrespective of whether > they are a Debian user or a RedHat. What I think is happening here is > that people blindly like to bash RedHat just because too many novice > users are on it and they are not able to defend themselves from the > Debian folks. > > > > > > Mithun > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 06:44:04 2001 Received: from winnt_4.infogain.com (unknown [207.82.165.31]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A614A1FE for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by WINNT_4 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:11:52 +0530 Message-ID: <310C7BE7CAC2D411AA5E0080C851C8FE5BFEE8@WINNT_4> From: Support To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, Support Subject: RE: Promiscuous Mode Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:11:51 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/77 X-Sequence-Number: 3789 > -----Original Message----- > From: Anand Shankar [SMTP:anandsha@vsnl.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:39 AM > To: Linux Delhi > Subject: [linux-delhi] Promiscuous Mode > > 1. While shutting down my system (RH6.2), I get the following message: > > device eth0 left promiscuos mode > > Obviously system is running with eth0 in promiscuous mode, which I know is > a > Security concern. > > I have tried: > > ifconfig -promisc eth0 > > but has not worked. > > 2. When I do an ifconfig, I get a "L A R G E" number on OVR, both RX and > TX. > What is this Overrun all about? How does it affect the performance or is > it > a spillover effect of the device running in promiscuous mode. > > > Anand Shankar > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 06:50:35 2001 Received: from winnt_4.infogain.com (unknown [207.82.165.31]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC3549EFE for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by WINNT_4 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:19:11 +0530 Message-ID: <310C7BE7CAC2D411AA5E0080C851C8FE5BFEEB@WINNT_4> From: Support To: Support , "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: Promiscuous Mode Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:19:10 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/78 X-Sequence-Number: 3790 > -----Original Message----- > From: Support > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 7:12 PM > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Support > Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] Promiscuous Mode > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anand Shankar [SMTP:anandsha@vsnl.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 8:39 AM > To: Linux Delhi > Subject: [linux-delhi] Promiscuous Mode > > 1. While shutting down my system (RH6.2), I get the following > message: > > device eth0 left promiscuos mode > > Obviously system is running with eth0 in promiscuous mode, which I > know is a > Security concern. > > I have tried: > > ifconfig -promisc eth0 > > but has not worked. > > 2. When I do an ifconfig, I get a "L A R G E" number on OVR, both RX > and TX. > What is this Overrun all about? How does it affect the performance > or is it > a spillover effect of the device running in promiscuous mode. > > > Anand Shankar > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 06:52:04 2001 Received: from winnt_4.infogain.com (unknown [207.82.165.31]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B7D4A1FD for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by WINNT_4 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:20:12 +0530 Message-ID: <310C7BE7CAC2D411AA5E0080C851C8FE5BFEEC@WINNT_4> From: Support To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, Support Subject: RE: dyamin SQL in PostGreSQL Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 19:20:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/79 X-Sequence-Number: 3791 > -----Original Message----- > From: Vineet Goel [SMTP:vgoel@npi.stpn.soft.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:48 AM > To: linex delhi > Subject: [linux-delhi] dyamin SQL in PostGreSQL > > hi all, > > can any body suggest me how to create dyamic SQL statement in > PostGreSQL. > > TIA > vineet goel > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 09:52:04 2001 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B124A107 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i8000 (we-24-130-20-13.we.mediaone.net [24.130.20.13]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f49GmSk08196 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004601c0d8a7$cc106b20$7001a8c0@i8000> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: <310C7BE7CAC2D411AA5E0080C851C8FE5BFEE1@WINNT_4> Subject: Re: Somebody downloading RHL7.1 ? Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:47:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/80 X-Sequence-Number: 3792 > > Is anybody downloading Redhat Linux 7.1 ISOs??? Pankaj? IF you are, > > please please holler. And if you cutting CDs count me in, I will get > > in touch immdlty with as many CDRs as required.... SARAI folks?? hint, > > hint!! ;) I have RH 7.1. I am in LA now, but I'll be in Delhi next week, so you can try emailing me towards the end of the next week at: dnd108@fnmail.com Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 09:58:42 2001 Received: from lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (lsmls01.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.20]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7499E4A06B for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from i8000 (we-24-130-20-13.we.mediaone.net [24.130.20.13]) by lsmls01.we.mediaone.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f49GtVk15065 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005601c0d8a8$c7aef050$7001a8c0@i8000> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com><20010508063518.D16530@black-satan> <006101c0d7fd$c1faf100$7001a8c0@i8000> <20010509071047.A21323@black-satan> Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:54:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/81 X-Sequence-Number: 3793 > >That's what I am running on my laptop. It recognized all 512MB of RAM that I > Its Not cuz of Red Hat its the kernel. Yes, but we are talking about the distributions here, not only about the kernel. I said I recommend RH 7.1 which automatically implies 2.4.x kernel. You could give arguments like that for other distros too, why only RH? In any case all my RAM was recognized by kernel 2.2.x, so it's not only the kernel. > >have, I am running it at 1600x1200 pixels in 32bit resolution. My video and > >sound card, NIC, firewire, USB, and everything else except win (damn, > >Microsoft!!) modem works just fine. > Again, Its Not cuz of Red Hat its X4 plus Kernel > All dist have this stuff. Then should I say that I like kernel 2.4.x packaged and distributed by RH? Does that satisfies you? It seems like that discussion should be about which kernel is the best and secondary question is about the distribution. Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 17:05:39 2001 Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com (web11204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.186]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 474D54A019 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 17:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010510000256.70629.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.200.76.21] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 May 2001 17:02:56 PDT Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:02:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Nishant Kumar Subject: Modprobe Error To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/82 X-Sequence-Number: 3794 I'm using Mandreak Linux 8.0 and everthing works fine. But my sound card AD1816 is not properly configured. In Red Hat Linux, i usally use Sound Blaster Pro. I tried every hit adn trial, even note down the IRQ Base IO etc. from Win OS and try to give in Linux OS, but in no good news. Still hissing sound. The error is something modprobe: can't ... pnpisa etc... Pls. help i'm switching over to Linux from win. Nishant Kumar ===== NishantKumar MCSE, GNX,B.Com(Hons.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 22:07:58 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EACEA4A1F2 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web12304.mail.yahoo.com (web12304.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.102]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6280149EFE for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 08:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010503145810.80585.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.56.230.242] by web12304.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 03 May 2001 07:58:10 PDT Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Yashpal Nagar Subject: dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/83 X-Sequence-Number: 3795 Hi! friend, some hacker did some port scanning etc from the online server through wu-ftpd 2.6 version in RH6.2. Now when i rebooted the system it gives me the problem.. Mounting proc file system dup2: Bad file decriptor. Configuring kernel parameter dup2: Bad file descriptor, Activating swap partition dup2: Bad file " " " Setting hostname dup2 : Bad file " " " After that gives the Control D or root passwd option. The same option also come if i does linux single.. Can someone pl . help how to up the server now... Also what r the chances if i upgrade it to RH 7.0 Please help urgently.. Regards, Yash __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 22:29:45 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D3BD4A1F2 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1222 invoked by uid 417); 10 May 2001 05:28:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.21) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 10 May 2001 05:28:15 -0000 Message-ID: <002301c0d911$dfeb38e0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <20010503145810.80585.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:57:08 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/84 X-Sequence-Number: 3796 i have had a similar problem recently (haven't been able to boot since then) but in my case the machine never went on the net, i believe there somthing else to it than some hacker.. i am using Mandrake 7.2 neway the enlighted ones please help.... -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yashpal Nagar" To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) : Hi! : friend, some hacker did some port scanning etc from : the online server through wu-ftpd 2.6 version in : RH6.2. : Now when i rebooted the system it gives me the : problem.. : : Mounting proc file system dup2: Bad file decriptor. : Configuring kernel parameter dup2: Bad file : descriptor, : Activating swap partition dup2: Bad file " " " : Setting hostname dup2 : Bad file " " " : After that gives the Control D or root passwd option. : The same option also come if i does linux single.. : : Can someone pl . help how to up the server now... : Also what r the chances if i upgrade it to RH 7.0 : : Please help urgently.. : Regards, : : Yash : : : __________________________________________________ : Do You Yahoo!? : Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices : http://auctions.yahoo.com/ : : : ------------------------------------------------ : An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : your subscription with this mailing list is at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 22:46:26 2001 Received: from sohm.stpp.soft.net (unknown [203.129.230.82]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A782F4A036 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ARATID ([172.10.16.141]) by sohm.stpp.soft.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id JZS0TWVV; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:18:21 +0530 Reply-To: From: "Arati D" To: Subject: RE: dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:10:09 +0530 Message-ID: <000d01c0d913$adc615e0$8d100aac@stpp.soft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <002301c0d911$dfeb38e0$6e1a11ac@virdi> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200105/85 X-Sequence-Number: 3797 When I got such messages, the system had crashed. I was using RH 6.2 then. I was told it was because of improper installation. If you have prepared a Restore disk while installing Linux, you may be able to restore your system. -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Jasmeet S. Virdi Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) i have had a similar problem recently (haven't been able to boot since then) but in my case the machine never went on the net, i believe there somthing else to it than some hacker.. i am using Mandrake 7.2 neway the enlighted ones please help.... -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yashpal Nagar" To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) : Hi! : friend, some hacker did some port scanning etc from : the online server through wu-ftpd 2.6 version in : RH6.2. : Now when i rebooted the system it gives me the : problem.. : : Mounting proc file system dup2: Bad file decriptor. : Configuring kernel parameter dup2: Bad file : descriptor, : Activating swap partition dup2: Bad file " " " : Setting hostname dup2 : Bad file " " " : After that gives the Control D or root passwd option. : The same option also come if i does linux single.. : : Can someone pl . help how to up the server now... : Also what r the chances if i upgrade it to RH 7.0 : : Please help urgently.. : Regards, : : Yash : : : __________________________________________________ : Do You Yahoo!? : Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices : http://auctions.yahoo.com/ : : : ------------------------------------------------ : An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : your subscription with this mailing list is at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 22:56:16 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 394774A036 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in (unknown [216.6.80.34]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0AEB4A132 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 02:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:47 +0530 Message-ID: <7FADCB99FC82D41199F9000629A85D1A019894B5@dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in> From: Vineet Ahuja To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:11:43 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/86 X-Sequence-Number: 3798 Hi guys, can anyone tell me the difference b/w PCI,SCSI & IDE etc. I'm confused in al this, or just sgest some book or site where i can have detailed information about these?? Thx Vineet From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 23:01:42 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFB34A036 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id LAA0000017799; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:25:32 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09220; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:28:43 +0530 Message-Id: <200105100558.LAA09220@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Thu May 10 11:28:43 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200105/87 X-Sequence-Number: 3799 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: victorl@momentum-tech.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 9 23:25:25 2001 Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89954A209 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toutatis ([65.5.98.96]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010510062215.YHJ965.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@toutatis> for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:22:15 -0700 Received: from anmol by toutatis with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14xjiA-0000Pu-00 for ; Wed, 09 May 2001 23:14:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:14:06 -0700 From: Anmol Khirbat To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010509231406.A1496@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> References: <7FADCB99FC82D41199F9000629A85D1A019894B5@dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <7FADCB99FC82D41199F9000629A85D1A019894B5@dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in>; from vineet.ahuja@dcmtech.co.in on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:11:43PM +0530 X-Archive-Number: 200105/88 X-Sequence-Number: 3800 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:11:43PM +0530, Vineet Ahuja wrote: > can anyone tell me the difference b/w PCI,SCSI & IDE etc. > I'm confused in al this, or just sgest some book or site where i can > have detailed information about these?? Try www.pcwebopedia.com. They have pointers to lots of informative websites. bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 01:14:16 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F22DC4A10D for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 01:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntserver (unknown [203.197.228.30]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 1336E3F3CC for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 00:09:08 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: From: pawans@renewal-iis.com Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:36:09 +0530 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Receipt-Requested-To:pawans@renewal-iis.com Subject: Internal Modem MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: TFS Secure Messaging /320000000/300022000/300001000/310103483/ X-Mailer: Version 4.6 Build 117 X-Archive-Number: 200105/89 X-Sequence-Number: 3801 Hi all, Can anyone tell me, how to install an Internal Modem in Linux. Can we use internal modem in linux? what are the packages needed for this? Thankx in advance. Pawan From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 01:54:52 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes2.whowhere.com [209.185.123.102]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64D1049EFE for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 01:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Thu May 10 01:51:46 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:21:46 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: get rid of cron mails X-Sender-Ip: 203.200.125.214 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/90 X-Sequence-Number: 3802 hi wanna get rid of cron mails? add following after each cron job 2>&1 > /dev/null manish Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 02:23:15 2001 Received: from arjun.eurolink.stpn.soft.net (unknown [203.190.136.66]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C464A210 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 02:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ssj.eurolink.stpn.soft.net (in.velocient.com) [192.168.200.16] by arjun.eurolink.stpn.soft.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14xmJj-0006bw-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:31:03 +0530 Message-ID: <3AFA5FE3.36506A43@in.velocient.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:01:15 +0530 From: Sanvir Singh Jham X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: get rid of cron mails References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/91 X-Sequence-Number: 3803 You can also put : MAILTO="" as the first line in your crontab. Regards, Sanvir manish k arya wrote: > hi > wanna get rid of cron mails? > add following after each cron job > > 2>&1 > /dev/null > > manish > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sanvir Singh Jham Tel: 694 1831/6619/6612/8617/ 5226/7/8 Velocient Technologies Limited Fax: 694 3732 New Delhi E-Mail:sanvir.jham@in.velocient.com ssjham@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just Believe in the Best From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 02:31:21 2001 Received: from web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com (web8004.in.yahoo.com [203.199.70.64]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9284C4A21A for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 02:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.217.152] by web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:26:34 BST Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:26:34 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Narsingh=20Sahu?= Subject: Re: Internal Modem To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/92 X-Sequence-Number: 3804 Hi, You may have got a problem there. Try and go thru the HOWTO document on winmodem. -narsingh --- pawans@renewal-iis.com wrote: > Hi all, > > Can anyone tell me, how to install an Internal > Modem in Linux. > Can we use internal modem in linux? > what are the packages needed for this? > > Thankx in advance. > > Pawan > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 04:27:14 2001 Received: from dadel1.now-india.net.in (del1.now-india.net.in [203.195.128.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF924A1B5 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 04:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toshiba ([203.195.146.182]) by dadel1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id GD4AAX06.21H for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:53:21 +0530 Message-ID: <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> From: "Vivek Chawla" To: References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> Subject: useradd and passwd Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:50:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/93 X-Sequence-Number: 3805 I am writing a program which reads a username and password from a database and writes scripts that would be run through a cron job to create account. I am using perl to write those scripts. I can use a useradd to create account like useradd $USERNAME I can't give a password becuase it takes a encrypted password. I then try to do a passwd to modify the passwd, but how can I pass the arguments for the passwd command thru shell script? Or can you tell me any way to write a script that would create accounts using a username and password.. Thanks, Vivek From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 04:32:36 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35524A182 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 04:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net4uhi1m82mc5 (port54-17-110.adsl.win.co.nz [210.54.17.110]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA29019 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 23:33:06 +1200 Message-ID: <006601c0d945$6d8c0e80$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Subject: Re: useradd and passwd Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:36:15 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2403.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2403.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/94 X-Sequence-Number: 3806 I have got some nice PHP Scripts that would serve your purpose well.. if you like, let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivek Chawla" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] useradd and passwd > I am writing a program which reads a username and password from a database > and writes scripts that would be run through a cron job to create account. > > I am using perl to write those scripts. > > I can use a useradd to create account like > useradd $USERNAME > > I can't give a password becuase it takes a encrypted password. > > I then try to do a passwd to modify the passwd, but how can I pass the > arguments for the passwd command thru shell script? > > Or can you tell me any way to write a script that would create accounts > using a username and password.. > > Thanks, > Vivek > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 06:07:16 2001 Received: from valium.lu.com (unknown [203.122.32.98]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 909B14A018 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19423 invoked by alias); 10 May 2001 13:04:28 -0000 Received: from mithun.internal.egurucool.com (HELO egurucool.com) (10.40.2.25) by valium.internal.egurucool.com with SMTP; 10 May 2001 13:04:28 -0000 Message-ID: <3AFADF35.A9ABFFE@egurucool.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:04:29 +0530 From: Mithun Bhattacharya Organization: Learning Universe [http://www.egurucool.com] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: useradd and passwd References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/95 X-Sequence-Number: 3807 From the useradd man page useradd [-c comment] [-d home_dir] [-e expire_date] [-f inactive_time] [-g initial_group] [-G group[,...]] [-m [-k skeleton_dir] | -M] [-p passwd] [-s shell] [-u uid [ -o]] [-n] [-r] login ----------------- I wonder what that -p option does..... Mithun From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 06:08:11 2001 Received: from valium.lu.com (unknown [203.122.32.98]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C89F24A22E for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 19505 invoked by alias); 10 May 2001 13:05:27 -0000 Received: from mithun.internal.egurucool.com (HELO egurucool.com) (10.40.2.25) by valium.internal.egurucool.com with SMTP; 10 May 2001 13:05:27 -0000 Message-ID: <3AFADF70.39ADCBE2@egurucool.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:05:28 +0530 From: Mithun Bhattacharya Organization: Learning Universe [http://www.egurucool.com] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: useradd and passwd References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/96 X-Sequence-Number: 3808 -p passwd The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3) or an MD5 password generator. The default is to dis­ able the account. From the same useradd man page..... From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 06:51:38 2001 Received: from damum1.now-india.net.in (unknown [203.195.158.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF5E4A149 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toshiba ([203.195.146.182]) by damum1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id GD4WE706.A04 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:20:31 +0000 Message-ID: <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> From: "Vivek Chawla" To: References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> <3AFADF70.39ADCBE2@egurucool.com> Subject: Re: useradd and passwd Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:45:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/97 X-Sequence-Number: 3809 But how do I generate that encrypted password from a simple password in a shell script or a perl script. The crypt function mentioned is a c library function ? Vivek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mithun Bhattacharya" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] useradd and passwd > -p passwd > The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3) or > an MD5 password generator. The default is to dis­ > able the account. > > From the same useradd man page..... > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 07:05:20 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [210.214.94.174]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59634A22F for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4AEHml01040; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:47:48 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: useradd and passwd References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> <3AFADF70.39ADCBE2@egurucool.com> <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 10 May 2001 19:47:48 +0530 In-Reply-To: <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200105/98 X-Sequence-Number: 3810 Hi Vivek, >>>>> "Vivek" =3D=3D Vivek Chawla writes: Vivek> But how do I generate that encrypted password from a simple Vivek> password in a shell script or a perl script. Vivek> The crypt function mentioned is a c library function ? =46rom the perlfunc man page: crypt PLAINTEXT,SALT Encrypts a string exactly like the crypt(3) func=AD tion in the C library (assuming that you actually have a version there that has not been extirpated as a potential munition). This can prove useful for checking the password file for lousy pass=AD words, amongst other things. Only the guys wear=AD ing white hats should do this. [snipped man page] Loki --=20 Cricket scoreboard for linux=20 For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 07:09:16 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02F64A22F for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA22331 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005701c0d95a$e651d2e0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <20010510082634.4829.qmail@web8004.mail.in.yahoo.com> <024301c0d9b4$5f20ce20$2c64a8c0@toshiba> <3AFADF70.39ADCBE2@egurucool.com> <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Subject: Re: useradd and passwd Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:38:44 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/99 X-Sequence-Number: 3811 >But how do I generate that encrypted password from a simple password in a >shell script or a perl script. > >The crypt function mentioned is a c library function ? under perl there is a crypt function that works like the c library function (and if i remember correctly, it has similar calling conventions..) also most of the newer systems use an md5 encryption system. You can get perl modules that have an implementation of the md5 algorithm.. Bye, /\ |\/| /\ |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 07:21:29 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BFB24A231 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mjollnir.rocklines.oyeindia.com (unknown [202.169.133.50]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9963D4A104 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 03:08:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from suresh@localhost) by mjollnir.rocklines.oyeindia.com (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/mjollnir-2.4) id f47A3QAK016904; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:33:26 +0530 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:33:26 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian To: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [LIH] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Message-ID: <20010507153326.C16872@oyeindia.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com>; from sudhir@netshooter.com on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 03:15:49PM +0530 Organization: Hopelessly Disorganized X-OS: Linux mjollnir.rocklines.oyeindia.com 2.4.4 X-Archive-Number: 200105/100 X-Sequence-Number: 3812 * Sudhir Gandotra [linux-india] <07/05/01 15:15 +0530>: > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? In descending order, Mandrake, SuSE, Caldera and Redhat. -- Suresh Ramasubramanian <--> mallet efn org EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 07:45:16 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 19F9F4A06F for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D964A015 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucky (d316.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.16]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F5B3F436 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:26:48 +0530 (IST) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E5D243BE5C; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:59:07 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Your opinion please - no flame wars ! References: From: Supreet Sethi Date: 08 May 2001 10:59:07 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87g0egmmsc.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 11 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/101 X-Sequence-Number: 3813 Debian may not be such a good install for new user, progeny does have a very good install system. It has, for me atleast, detected every hardware I threw in. Second it's not crippled like corel was. U can very well use your debian CD's with it. Has X4.0.2 ligc2.2 it is debian at heart Supreet From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 07:45:24 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75F044A23D for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7F94A16D for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucky (d316.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.16]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BB63F456 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:27:08 +0530 (IST) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 440CB3BE5B; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:55:31 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features References: From: Supreet Sethi Date: 08 May 2001 10:55:31 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87k83smmyc.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/102 X-Sequence-Number: 3814 Yes, there is not much of diffrence in NT and linux in terms of securing the machine. But there is , as it seems to me, a huge diffrence in the user who is handling the machine. It's all in the state of mind. Some would think I am crazy screw up. But usually linux people know whats there on there machine. And what makes unix and linux more secure is the fact that they know what "can" go wrong. This does not in, in anyway mean that NT guy can't do the same. On security rating NT and linux are on same level. That is C2. I am not to sure what ratings I am quoting. Supreet From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 07:47:03 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC12C4A036 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A0A4A140 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucky (unknown [203.197.196.240]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5543F4F1 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:52:14 +0530 (IST) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 588413BDDC; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:49:28 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: [] [Internal] RMS lecture in CODE From: Supreet Sethi Date: 08 May 2001 10:49:27 +0530 Message-ID: <87pudkmn8g.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 186 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Archive-Number: 200105/103 X-Sequence-Number: 3815 --=-=-= This is the text made out of notes by jeebesh bagchi , one the members at sarai. --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline X-From-Line: internal-admin@mail.sarai.net Tue May 8 10:27:57 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: supreet@localhost.sarai.kit Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucky (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5BA3BDDB for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:27:57 +0530 (IST) Received: from mail.sarai.net by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) for supreet@localhost (single-drop); Tue, 08 May 2001 10:27:57 +0530 (IST) Received: from A01.waag.org (list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA24465; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:28:20 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.intra.waag.org: Host list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1] claimed to be A01.waag.org Received: from www.sarai.net (www-data@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id LAA24457 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:27:25 +0200 Message-Id: <200105070927.LAA24457@mail.intra.waag.org> To: From: X-Mailer: TWIG 2.6.1 Subject: [Internal] RMS lecture in CODE Sender: internal-admin@mail.sarai.net Errors-To: internal-admin@mail.sarai.net X-BeenThere: internal@mail.sarai.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:27:25 -0000 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) Lines: 143 Xref: lucky.sarai.kit reader-list.:34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CODE posting 2: RMS lecture Here I will try to give a detailed write-up on Richard Stallman's lecture. My comments are in brackets. RMS was introduced by Micheal Century as a combination of Thomas Paine and Mozart, who has reminded the world of a basic common sense of living live by sharing with freedom. (to me it sounded a very heavy introduction, and these kind of things does no good to engaging with ideas). RMs spoke for about one hour without consulting any notes or texts. He started by looking at the older traditions of copying of a text to make another copy. It was a tedious job and consumed much time and labour. Lots of time these were just verbatim copying. But at times while making a copy, the copier would write some comments and these were then futher copied as commentaries. Also, many such commentaries would be complied together to make a compendium. These existed for many centuries and many cultures had developed a complex body of work through this parctice. With the coming of the printing press the possibility of distributing multiple copies of the same emerged. If one could set type of a hand written material then lots of copies could be printed an distributed. The setting was done in one press/ place and then copies distributed from there to other places. A economics of scale emerged around printing and distribution. Copyright in England started as a mode of censorship. That is one needed permission of the State to print anything. (This was basically printers license not writers license. Any body could write anything as long it is not printed and distributed.) In the US constitution the copyright is argued to benefit society and progress. Monopoly (to publish and economically benefit from it) is a concession given to engender public progress. Also, as a reward (incentive) to write more. The books were produced centrally and distributed from there on. The law did not restrict ordinay readers from sharing with others or copying the book by hand. It might have been beneficial as it would have acted as an incentive to author to write more books. Importnat to note was that copyright was not enforced on the readers. The move from printing press to the computer networks creates a huge problem for regimes of copyright. (Though the earlier technologies of copying like photostat and magnetic tapes we can see the move to restriction on the reader or the listener being brought under the copyright regulation. In Russia access to photostat machines was massively controlled and massive checks on what is being photocopied. Even simple text books were seen as state secrets!!) With the emergence of the computer network any and everybody who reads can also make a copy and share it with others. The same law is now used for massive crackdown on social act of sharing. This enforcement has taken on a draconian turn. US is the world leader in stamping out copying. In an earlier decade in Russia guards, information police, logging, spying on neighbours were all part of attempts to stampout copying. Today, we have robotic guards, legal framework that makes copying a act of felony with 10 years of imprisonment. The level of legal and penal brutality around copying is on a massive rise, almost no limits. Software Publisher Associations are the new infopolice. ISPs have been given the mandate to unplugg on complaints. teachers are told to teach - "say no to sharing". Goodwill and sharing is under severe threat. Public gives away some freedom to benefit from more creation. (That is the moral logic of copyright). Now the Public should take away certain freedom that it has left out for itself. The Digital Millenium Act restricts the e-book freedom. Using broad cotegories copyright acts clubs things together and brings disparate things within its ambit. (He then speltout three different kinds of work under copyright acts, actually from hereon I got little confused as to what was RMS' s take on copyright was) He divided work into three broad categories. 1) Functional : work thats primary end is to get things done. Programmes, recipes, dictionary. You may have a better idea to make it suit your interest and need better e.g changing recipes to suit your taste. For this category of work we will need freedom to copy and modify things, and to publish it to share with others. To publish modified version is crucial for these functionalities to be more useful to us. 2) The second category of work are primarily works that states someone's views or arguments. The example for this are memories, catalogues, scientific paper. Here copyiny and then modifying maynot be suitable. (here i got little confused. if modified versions states that modification has been made and credits the source, then what is the problem?) 3) Entertainment and Aesthetic work: here the cricial question is can people make modified versions? Version changes was very much part of the folk tradition where great work got created by people joining in and adding their bits. (Actually he was very eloquent about this aspect of the folk culture). It could be argued that Shakespeare work was a part of this great tradition of modification on socially available stories, talks and gossips. [Actually the recent anxiety shown by the music industry shows that simple copying is a problem, leave alone making modified versions] The we come to distribution: - Commercial and non-commercial distribution. The non-commercial distribution are mostly private/ person to person distribution or public distribution like the Napster. BUt there is an urgent need to go further to incorporate non- commercial public distribution in works that we all make or are assit in. Also an important fact that remains to be recognised is that music industry pays only 4% of its revenue as royalties. (so economic argument of feeding artists is really misplaced) E-book never goes out of print! So copyright of a work never reverts back to an author. Perpetual copyright~! (It fascinating how law is used to create new forms of control) Lenght of time in a copyright should be negotiable and dependant on the functionality and need of the work. He also warned against being light about recent regulations which are definitive threat to the freedom in the digital domain. [More in the next posting] _______________________________________________ Internal mailing list Internal@mail.sarai.net https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/internal --=-=-=-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 08:07:07 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBDC04A0BD for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E715849EFE for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucky (unknown [203.197.196.244]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B403F250 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:14:01 +0530 (IST) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 47B193BDDB; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:17:01 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features References: From: Supreet Sethi Date: 09 May 2001 10:17:01 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/104 X-Sequence-Number: 3816 frankly I do'nt understand your mail. I do'nt know what has been quoted and which ones are your own statements. 1) NT is supposedly micro-kernel based because. Some time back I do'nt know when there executor[ The program executor for win32 and posix] which is used to be part of user space become kernel level for performance sack. 2) NT always has this extra baggage of GUI system which is mostly not needed no servers. 3) I find *nix more secure because 1) most software used at server end are more or less stable 2) The tweaks needed for securing and optimizing are easily available 3) Through scripting on can do lot of stuff for making sys admins tasks easier to handle. which is kind of non existent in NT world. Supreet From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 08:47:54 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 118F34A182 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ECA324A221 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 02:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Thu May 10 02:20:55 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 02:20:55 -0700 From: "sachin kitnawat" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: sachin_76@lycos.com X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Linux thread Problem X-Sender-Ip: 216.6.80.59 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 549 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/105 X-Sequence-Number: 3817 Hi All, I am porting an Threading Application from Hp-UX 11.0 to Red Hat Linux 6.2. There is a system call pthread_condattr_setpshared and pthread_mutex_setpshared in HP-UX which is not available on Linux. So please let me know how to implement the functionality of these funtions in Red Hat Linux 6.2. These functions are used to set the process shared attribute in a condition and mutex variable attributes object. Thanks in Advance Sachin Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 10:19:30 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F3E749EFE for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6581 invoked by uid 417); 10 May 2001 17:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.140.121) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 10 May 2001 17:16:40 -0000 Message-ID: <005c01c0d915$a9c16ba0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <3AF66ECD.DD124A9C@netshooter.com> <20010507153326.C16872@oyeindia.com> Subject: Re: Re: [LIH] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:06:05 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/106 X-Sequence-Number: 3818 > * Sudhir Gandotra [linux-india] <07/05/01 15:15 +0530>: > > > In your opinion, which distribution of Linux would be easiest for a > > newbie to switch-over to Linux ? > > In descending order, Mandrake, SuSE, Caldera and Redhat. LMAO !!! LOL !! talk about red hat.... I dont know if suse or caledra should be on the 2nd and 3rd pos.... but Red Hat Defenatly deserves to be below them ! :o) Damn ! wats got into red hat...have u tried 7.0 !!! phew....even MS wont make such mistakes. And ofcoz i fully support mandrake...the best for beginners AWA gurus. Amit. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 12:44:15 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC6CB4A243 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.qc (IDENT:root@ddp-11-2.mantraonline.com [202.56.226.2] (may be forged)) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4AJfEA00821 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:41:15 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:neil@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thinkpad.qc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA04641 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 01:13:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 01:13:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil X-Sender: neil@thinkpad.qc To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Re: [LIH] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! In-Reply-To: <005c01c0d915$a9c16ba0$010811ac@big> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/107 X-Sequence-Number: 3819 amitso> amitso>I dont know if suse or caledra should be on the 2nd and 3rd pos.... amitso>but Red Hat Defenatly deserves to be below them ! :o) amitso>Damn ! wats got into red hat...have u tried 7.0 !!! phew....even MS wont amitso>make such mistakes. guys guys guys ... this discussion is going nowhere. we have named almost all the popular distros ... but have most probably ended up without a solution for the chap who posted the query(whom if i may say i dont even know till now) hmm... i feel there is no perfect distro for beginners .. and none that are bad.. it all depends on the person we are talking about. how fast he is at grasping, how much time he is willing to spend pulling out his hair, how long will he wait before he decides to chuck linux and head back to windows... more importantly ... what is the reason for hius switch... if the aim is to learn how to use linux ... there is nothing better than learning the fundamentals... ie learn without any fancy tools... just like my math teacher made me remember tables from 1-20 not that i ever need all of em... so debian is the right choice... no doubt u will end up pulling out ur hair more often and by the end of the endavour... u mite not have any... but by the end of it... u will LEARN linux ... if the reason is just as a pastime ... head back to windows now... dont waste ur time ... cos most pastimers head back... and if u are doing it cos u have no other choice(ie a means to an end..) and want a quick fix ... then choose one of the more "make u silly" distros... like redhat or mandrake...etc... it really doesnot matter which one u choose... theyre all the same in this respect... hope this helps u make up ur mind chappy... Neil -- Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 12:56:28 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.phoenixiad.com [206.204.22.3]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF654A241 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from quake.phoenixiad.com (quake.phoenixiad.com [206.204.22.161]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25668 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:53:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.phoenixiad.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08697 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:53:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.phoenixiad.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: khirbat@yahoo.com X-Sender: anmol@quake.phoenixiad.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: useradd and passwd In-Reply-To: <3AFADF70.39ADCBE2@egurucool.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Archive-Number: 200105/108 X-Sequence-Number: 3820 On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mithun Bhattacharya wrote: > -p passwd > The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3) or > an MD5 password generator. The default is to dis=AD > able the account. >=20 If there are other people logged on to the same box, they might see `useradd -p passwd blah' in a ps listing.=20 Another way to do this is to use `expect' (or its perl interface) to feed the real password to `passwd'. expect is a really neat program. http://expect.nist.gov/FAQ.html bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 15:02:14 2001 Received: from web11005.mail.yahoo.com (web11005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.55]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58D4B49F48 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010510215929.23868.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.107.13.201] by web11005.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:59:29 PDT Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:59:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Naresh Narang Subject: Re: useradd and passwd To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/109 X-Sequence-Number: 3821 crypt() is available in perl. Naresh --- Vivek Chawla wrote: > But how do I generate that encrypted password from a > simple password in a > shell script or a perl script. > > The crypt function mentioned is a c library function > ? > > Vivek > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mithun Bhattacharya" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:35 AM > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] useradd and passwd > > > > -p passwd > > The encrypted password, as returned > by crypt(3) or > > an MD5 password generator. The > default is to dis­ > > able the account. > > > > From the same useradd man page..... > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > The mailing list archives are available at > > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ===== -- Naresh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 17:02:29 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BD64A264 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghane by texas.dotxtra.com with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14y0LP-0004zT-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:59:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:59:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Sanjeev Gupta To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: useradd and passwd In-Reply-To: <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="265372016-902211336-989539183=:19173" X-Archive-Number: 200105/110 X-Sequence-Number: 3822 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --265372016-902211336-989539183=:19173 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 10 May 2001, Vivek Chawla wrote: > But how do I generate that encrypted password from a simple password in a > shell script or a perl script. > > The crypt function mentioned is a c library function ? See attached perl script. Call it with ./mkpasswd username passwd -- Sanjeev "ghane" Gupta Mob: +65 98551208 dotXtra Pte Ltd Fax: +65 2275776 Singapore email: ghane@dotxtra.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --265372016-902211336-989539183=:19173 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=mkpasswd Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: IyEvdXNyL2Jpbi9wZXJsDQojIHBvcF9wYXNzd2QgdXNlcm5hbWUgcGFzc3dv cmQgPj4gcGFzc3dvcmQgZmlsZQ0KDQogJG5hbWUgPSAkQVJHVlswXTsNCg0K IEBzYWx0X2NoYXJzICAgICAgICAgPSAoJ2EnLi4neicsJ0EnLi4nWicsJzAn Li4nOScpOw0KICRzYWx0ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgPSAkc2FsdF9jaGFyc1ty YW5kKDYyKV0gLiAkc2FsdF9jaGFyc1tyYW5kKDYyKV07DQoNCiAkcGFzc3dk ID0gY3J5cHQgKCRBUkdWWzFdLCAkc2FsdCk7DQoNCiBwcmludCAiJG5hbWU6 JHBhc3N3ZFxuIjsNCg0K --265372016-902211336-989539183=:19173-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 17:38:17 2001 Received: from web11003.mail.yahoo.com (web11003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.53]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD3394A260 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010511003531.33768.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.107.13.201] by web11003.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:35:31 PDT Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:35:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Naresh Narang Subject: Rsh To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <01a301c0c41f$aed922f0$6dba9cca@fluff> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/111 X-Sequence-Number: 3823 Hi, Is there a way to do rsh on root on a linux box. I tried removing the securetty file but didn't work. It still asks for the password. The .rhosts file is set. Thanks Naresh ===== -- Naresh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 20:13:31 2001 Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D67A4A175 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toutatis ([65.5.98.96]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010511030741.DDOJ1760.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@toutatis> for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:07:41 -0700 Received: from anmol by toutatis with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14y3Bn-0000AT-00 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:01:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:01:59 -0700 From: Anmol Khirbat To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: useradd and passwd Message-ID: <20010510200159.A539@c1379802-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com> References: <026b01c0d9c8$8c2cb280$2c64a8c0@toshiba> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: ; from ghane@texas.dotxtra.com on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 06:59:43PM -0500 X-Archive-Number: 200105/112 X-Sequence-Number: 3824 On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 06:59:43PM -0500, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > See attached perl script. Call it with [snip] > #!/usr/bin/perl > # pop_passwd username password >> password file > > $name = $ARGV[0]; > > @salt_chars = ('a'..'z','A'..'Z','0'..'9'); @salt_chars = ('a'..'z','A'..'Z','0'..'9', '.', '/'); > $salt = $salt_chars[rand(62)] . $salt_chars[rand(62)]; $salt = $salt_chars[rand(64)] . $salt_chars[rand(64)]; > > $passwd = crypt ($ARGV[1], $salt); > > print "$name:$passwd\n"; > bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 20:48:26 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58FA24A245 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 14063 invoked by uid 417); 11 May 2001 03:45:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.22) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 11 May 2001 03:45:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c0d9cc$e008e910$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: Subject: ne distro with kernel 2.4 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:15:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/113 X-Sequence-Number: 3825 Does anybody out there have the latest version of redaht or for that matter ne distro with 2.4 kernel.... and ofcourse can i borrow it... -js From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 21:06:06 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EE44A245 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 21:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id JAA0000007109; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:29:59 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02182; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:33:11 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15099.25727.103491.998985@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:33:11 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: (fwd) Samba 2.0.9 released - 2.0.8 did NOT fix the hole X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/114 X-Sequence-Number: 3826 [Samba users, please upgrade. Your distribution maker should be coming out with a package soon -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Approved-By: aleph1@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Delivered-To: bugtraq@lists.securityfocus.com Message-ID: <20010508235917.398474687@lists.samba.org> Reply-To: tridge@valinux.com From: Andrew Tridgell Sender: Bugtraq List To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Subject: Samba 2.0.9 released - 2.0.8 did NOT fix the hole Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:59:17 -0700 The recent Samba 2.0.8 security fix release did NOT fix the security hole in Samba 2.0.7. I have now released Samba 2.0.9 to fix this. Many thanks to Marc Jacobsen from HP for pointing out the error, and apologies from the Samba Team for any inconvenience. Note that the 2.2.0 release did fix the bug, so if you have installed that release then you can ignore this message. The 2.0.9 release is available at ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/samba-2.0.9.tar.gz the patch is available at: ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/patches/samba-2.0.8-2.0.9.diffs.gz The 2.2.0 release is available at: ftp://ftp.samba.org/pub/samba/samba-2.2.0.tar.gz We do not plan on doing any more releases of Samba 2.0.x. Distribution vendors have been notified about the error and will be doing new releases shortly. Cheers, Tridge ------------------------------ End of this Digest ****************** -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 21:42:27 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9042B4A26E for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 21:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000021750; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:06:09 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02070; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:29:34 +0530 Message-Id: <200105110359.JAA02070@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Fri May 11 09:29:34 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200105/115 X-Sequence-Number: 3827 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: ramc@globespan.net If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 10 22:28:19 2001 Received: from web11005.mail.yahoo.com (web11005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.55]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1486A4A27B for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010511052532.68756.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.16.186.216] by web11005.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:25:32 PDT Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Naresh Narang Subject: Re: (fwd) Samba 2.0.9 released - 2.0.8 did NOT fix the hole To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <15099.25727.103491.998985@mail.linux-delhi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/116 X-Sequence-Number: 3828 Hi How about Samba 2.2 Regards, Naresh ===== -- Naresh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 11 01:01:05 2001 Received: from mantramail.com (n2z.mantramail.com [202.56.230.130]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ED054A14B for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 01:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8865 invoked by uid 501); 11 May 2001 07:49:30 -0000 Message-ID: <989567370.989567370@mantramail.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Linux; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by mantraonline.com) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:19:30 From: "Yashpal Nagar" Subject: Re: RE: dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) To: "Arati D" , , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/117 X-Sequence-Number: 3829 well the server was hacked i am pretty much sure coz i saw some new user with uid gid 0 and in his home dir some eggdrop.c and may files , I upgraded the server to RH 7.0, and it worked for me, But can someone tell me why this kernel prob happened ? i only share one thing that be careful while installing RH 6.2 it' wu-ftpd2.6 ver is venurable.. Regards, Yash "Arati D" Wrote--- When I got such messages, the system had crashed. I was using RH 6.2 then. I was told it was because of improper installation. If you have prepared a Restore disk while installing Linux, you may be able to restore your system. -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Jasmeet S. Virdi Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:57 AM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) i have had a similar problem recently (haven't been able to boot since then) but in my case the machine never went on the net, i believe there somthing else to it than some hacker.. i am using Mandrake 7.2 neway the enlighted ones please help.... -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yashpal Nagar" To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] dup2 : Bad file descriptor (URGENT) : Hi! : friend, some hacker did some port scanning etc from : the online server through wu-ftpd 2.6 version in : RH6.2. : Now when i rebooted the system it gives me the : problem.. : : Mounting proc file system dup2: Bad file decriptor. : Configuring kernel parameter dup2: Bad file : descriptor, : Activating swap partition dup2: Bad file " " " : Setting hostname dup2 : Bad file " " " : After that gives the Control D or root passwd option. : The same option also come if i does linux single.. : : Can someone pl . help how to up the server now... : Also what r the chances if i upgrade it to RH 7.0 : : Please help urgently.. : Regards, : : Yash : : : __________________________________________________ : Do You Yahoo!? : Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices : http://auctions.yahoo.com/ : : : ------------------------------------------------ : An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : your subscription with this mailing list is at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 12 12:48:51 2001 Received: from ns1 (unknown [207.211.188.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E7864A130 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 12:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-ITHouse-Forward-Path: Received: From yahoo.com by ns1 (IT House Mail Server [IT-B0-74530908-3A602030]); Sat, 12 May 2001 07:53:11 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4DBA31.739CB7A1@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:24:41 +0530 From: Jaswinder Singh Kohli Reply-To: jskohli123@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi Subject: NEWS GROUPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/118 X-Sequence-Number: 3830 Hi, Does any one of you using newsgroups VSNL recently(not so recent) discontinued the service and now after searching free newsgroups lists on net.( i have tested like 1001 newsgroups) THEY JUST DONT WORK. so any one using newsgroup server can please Tell me. Thanks a lot Bye -- Regards Jaswinder Singh Kohli jskohli@fig.org :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Uni(multi)verse is a figment of its own imagination. In truth time is but an illusion of 3D frequency grid programs. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 12 18:08:34 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E22444A130 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 18:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1 (unknown [207.211.188.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B5B34A072 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 08:00:17 -0700 (PDT) X-ITHouse-Forward-Path: Received: From fig.org by ns1 (IT House Mail Server [IT-B0-74530908-3A602030]); Sat, 12 May 2001 04:22:26 -0700 Message-ID: <3B4D8911.F3D865CC@fig.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 16:55:05 +0530 From: Jaswinder Singh Kohli Reply-To: jskohli@fig.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reader-list@sarai.net, eat_flaming_death@yahoogroups.com, linux-delhi , satanmode@runbox.com Subject: Patenting- This guy can sue each and every Linux User Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/119 X-Sequence-Number: 3831 Found this article on geeknews.org (little may be a lot old) but is of interest The Windowing Patent Posted @ 23:00 CST - November 7, 1999 The Windowing technique used by lots of companies as a quick Y2K fix has been in the news lately because it has been patented by Bruce Dickens, an employee of aircraft manufacturer McDonnell Douglas. As a result, they have been actively pursuing companies that use this technique to pay them or face legal action. Besides making me want to laugh and cry at the same time, this development also becomes of significant concern to Linux users because this technique is a part of the Intel-specific portion of the Linux kernel source. Yup, it is conceivable that these guys could sue Linux users. But the question is would they win in the long run? In general I think this is a pretty sorry thing to sue people about, it's not like it is some massive technical finding, it's 2 lines of code for gosh sakes! Read more about it here. Read more about it here link http://www.lwn.net/1999/features/Windowing.phtml -- Regards Jaswinder Singh Kohli jskohli@fig.org :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Uni(multi)verse is a figment of its own imagination. In truth time is but an illusion of 3D frequency grid programs. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 12 23:02:49 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395664A0AF for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 23:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.qc (IDENT:root@ddp-137-176.mantraonline.com [202.56.238.176] (may be forged)) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4D5xgA32700 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 01:59:43 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:neil@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thinkpad.qc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA09198 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 11:32:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:32:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil X-Sender: neil@thinkpad.qc To: linux-delhi Subject: Re: NEWS GROUPS In-Reply-To: <3B4DBA31.739CB7A1@yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/120 X-Sequence-Number: 3832 jskohl>so any one using newsgroup server can please Tell me. jskohl>Thanks a lot well we had this post to the list some time ago. and it wa me who posted. so i have decided to "help for help" i use news.cis.dfn.de its fast and provides me with all the newsgroups i need. oh almost. u have to rite into them and request theuse of their server. they will give u a pass and then jolly... or just search for some "news bot search engine open nntp" on google. i found an amazing list of servers but i dont remember the name of that site. it had up to date info on the servers and 90% of them worked. i am still however satisfied with cis. Neil -- Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 13 14:19:36 2001 Received: from smtp.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.33]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A554A071 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 14:19:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.71.134.31] (helo=hork) by smtp.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 14z3Ff-0005OU-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Mon, 14 May 2001 02:48:07 +0530 Message-ID: <006c01c0dbf1$cfba0590$1f8647ca@hork> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: <3AFA5FE3.36506A43@in.velocient.com> Subject: Kindly register at the counter Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 02:45:15 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/121 X-Sequence-Number: 3833 All Linux users kindly register yourselves and your machines at http://counter.li.org/ if you haven't already. Regards, DAX From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 13 14:19:40 2001 Received: from smtp.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.33]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FCCB4A072 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 14:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.71.134.31] (helo=hork) by smtp.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 14z3Fe-0005OU-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Mon, 14 May 2001 02:48:06 +0530 Message-ID: <006b01c0dbf1$cef66770$1f8647ca@hork> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: <3B4D8911.F3D865CC@fig.org> Subject: Re: Patenting- This guy can sue each and every Linux User Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 02:33:44 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/122 X-Sequence-Number: 3834 >Patenting- This guy can sue each and every Linux User He can lodge a litigation at the Hague for all I care coz nothing will ever come of it. If Linux was born out of Minix and is a Unix flavour.... why don't all the protected companies sue the Linux developers / users and above all Torvalds in particular. The answer is a straight forward - " Just not practically possible " DAX From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 00:09:55 2001 Received: from web10701.mail.yahoo.com (web10701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.209]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94C624A02D for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 00:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010514070657.12341.qmail@web10701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.9.154.195] by web10701.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 00:06:57 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 00:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Rahul Handa Subject: Re: Problem To: raju@linux-delhi.org Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <15101.6409.475077.583030@mail.linux-delhi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/123 X-Sequence-Number: 3835 Hi Raju, this is poke tres. 1. I found this site - if anyone is interested http://rpmfind.net/linux 2. Can anyone also pls tell me how am I supposed to compile the source codes? I had downloaded some files (tar.gz s) but they didnt contain rpms - they have loads of files wich have .c .h .etc etc etc. How do I compile and get it running. 3. When trying to run Gnumeric, I get this strange bloody error message "Gnumeric failed to find a suitable default font. Please verify your gnome-print installation and that your fontmap file (typically located in /usr/local/share/fonts/fontmap) is not empty or near empty. Sent a message to gnome from their site itself - they have expressed total inability to help. 4. I think it is Mithun who is using Ximian. I was trying to install Ximian yesteray. (iBook running YellowDog Linux Champion Server 1.2) After the initial welcome screen - I get this error. "Application "/.installer-rpm3-ppc" (process 725) has crashed due to a fatal error. (segmentation fault)" Sometime I also get error 1215. What am I supposed to do. Could it be a problem since I am already runing gnome on YDL ? If so - how do I uninstall it? I even tried to switchdesk to KDE and run it from there too. Same problem. Regards Rahul Handa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 00:54:49 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE854A053 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 00:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [203.197.196.240]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A1E3F142 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:21:59 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 16EC22DBCE; Fri, 11 May 2001 06:27:15 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:27:15 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Re: [LIH] Your opinion please - no flame wars ! Message-ID: <20010511062715.A29153@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <005c01c0d915$a9c16ba0$010811ac@big> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from neil@linux-delhi.org on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:13:56AM -0400 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/124 X-Sequence-Number: 3836 On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:13:56AM -0400, Neil wrote: > >guys guys guys ... >this discussion is going nowhere. [snip] Ya I agree >of em... so debian is the right choice... no doubt u will end up pulling >out ur hair more often and by the end of the endavour... u mite not have [snip] Neil is that really u speakin..... The random quantum fluctuations of my brain are historical accidents that happen to have decided that Neil speaking something sane and Apocalypse are orthogonal and should remain that way. ;) >Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you? hmmm.... -- X windows: We wrote the book on core dumps. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 00:54:54 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9E64A05D for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 00:54:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [203.197.196.240]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C353F150 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:21:59 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7B1442DDBA; Fri, 11 May 2001 06:41:14 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:41:14 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010511064114.B29153@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <7FADCB99FC82D41199F9000629A85D1A019894B5@dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <7FADCB99FC82D41199F9000629A85D1A019894B5@dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in>; from vineet.ahuja@dcmtech.co.in on Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:11:43PM +0530 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/125 X-Sequence-Number: 3837 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:11:43PM +0530, Vineet Ahuja wrote: > > Hi guys, > can anyone tell me the difference b/w PCI,SCSI & IDE etc. Peripheral Component Interconnect SCSI /n./ [Small Computer System Interface] A bus-independent standard for system-level interfacing between a computer and intelligent devices. Typically annotated in literature with `sexy' (/sek'see/), `sissy' (/sis'ee/), and `scuzzy' (/skuh'zee/) as pronunciation guides -- the last being the overwhelmingly predominant form, much to the dismay of the designers and their marketing people. One can usually assume that a person who pronounces it /S-C-S-I/ is clueless. Integrated Drive Electronics > I'm confused in al this, or just sgest some book or site where i can >have detailed information about these?? > Thx > Vineet > > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: We wrote the book on core dumps. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 02:42:50 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66514A021 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 02:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA03780 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 05:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Subject: Re: Linux security features Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:07:18 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/126 X-Sequence-Number: 3838 > 3) I find *nix more secure because > 3) Through scripting on can do lot of stuff for making sys admins tasks > easier to handle. which is kind of non existent in NT world. pls get your facts straight. On win2k (nt 5.0!!!!) almost everything can be scripted using windows scripting... Though most of the non m$ software for win2k (and u need some of them to get a fully functional win2k server) that i hav come across don't hav such a good support for windows scripting. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 02:43:05 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403294A173 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 02:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA03865 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 05:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006b01c0dc5a$5a783a90$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <000901c0d9cc$e008e910$6e1a11ac@virdi> Subject: Re: ne distro with kernel 2.4 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:10:40 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/127 X-Sequence-Number: 3839 > Does anybody out there have the latest version of redaht or for that matter > ne distro with 2.4 kernel.... > and ofcourse can i borrow it... i hav mandrake 8.0... i can get it with me on the next meet. I think that i hav missed the ma 13th meet, so it shud be next month. Mandrake 8.0 is quite cool, and most ppl who saw the aurora bootup screen with fb enabled in the kernel were quite impressed! I just installed it this sunday, so i still haven't noticed anything really better, other than the new kde which is really cool! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 03:00:31 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [210.214.89.148]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87514A169 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 03:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4EAD7S02211; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:43:07 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features References: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> <006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 14 May 2001 15:43:07 +0530 In-Reply-To: <006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/128 X-Sequence-Number: 3840 Hi Ambar, >>>>> "Ambar" == Ambar Roy writes: >> 3) I find *nix more secure because 3) Through scripting on can >> do lot of stuff for making sys admins >> tasks >> easier to handle. which is kind of non existent in NT world. Ambar> pls get your facts straight. On win2k (nt 5.0!!!!) almost Ambar> everything can be scripted using windows Ambar> scripting... Though most of the non m$ software for win2k Ambar> (and u need some of them to get a fully functional win2k Ambar> server) that i hav come across don't hav such a good Ambar> support for windows scripting. You mentioned the difference yourself in your mail. Scripting in UNIX has been there since its inception and a lot of code base is available, not quite so in win2k. (and who wanna be a 100% MS-code-only-user anyway?) Heck, this is how I set a one-hour alarm for myself in Linux: bash$ sleep 3600; play alarm.wav This works in all GNU/Linux systems since years. Loki. -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 05:43:44 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554474A053 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 05:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA26573 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00da01c0dc73$949d4b20$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit><006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> Subject: Re: Linux security features Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:38:10 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/129 X-Sequence-Number: 3841 > You mentioned the difference yourself in your mail. > Scripting in UNIX has been there since its inception and a lot of code > base is available, not quite so in win2k. (and who wanna be a 100% > MS-code-only-user anyway?) > > Heck, this is how I set a one-hour alarm for myself in Linux: > > bash$ sleep 3600; play alarm.wav > > This works in all GNU/Linux systems since years. no wonder i still use linux. For some things nothing can beat linux (or for that matter most unixes)! But this doesn't mean that win2k is crap. For some things win2k is really cool. Take for instance the ddns system. Ever since i implemented the win2k server for dhcp and dns for both linux and win2k clients, i have been wondering why this feature is not available on Linux!!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 07:05:23 2001 Received: from seascope.co.in (seascope.co.in [161.58.164.92]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A203449F15 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web.seascope.co.in ([202.68.136.158]) by seascope.co.in (8.11.2) id f4EE29c46597 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200105141402.f4EE29c46597@seascope.co.in> From: "Sarin Chavarkar" To: "linux-delhi" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:25:31 +0550 Reply-To: "Sarin Chavarkar" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2320) For Windows 98 (4.90.3000) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Commercial] new cd's available at new prices X-Archive-Number: 200105/130 X-Sequence-Number: 3842 Hi All, We now have the following latest versions : Redhat 7.1 (5cd set) Redhat 7.1 (2cd set) Linux Mandrake 8.0 (2cd set) Latest GNU Hurd (2cd set) Progeny Linux 1.0 (2 cd set) Debian 2.2r3 (3cd set) - binary Debian 2.2r3 (3cd set) - sources We are pleased to announce our new prices for single cd distributions @ Rs. 99/- per cd with shipping and handling charges being Rs. 60/- for couriering anywhere in India. Best Regards, Sarin Chavarkar *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Seascope Infotech Pvt. Ltd. http://www.seascope.co.in *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 09:00:01 2001 Received: from damum1.now-india.net.in (unknown [203.195.158.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8861C4A021 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.195.135.108]) by damum1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id GDCGZR05.Q02 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:28:39 +0000 Received: (qmail 901 invoked by uid 500); 14 May 2001 15:59:50 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:29:50 +0530 From: Sandip Bhattacharya To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features Message-ID: <20010514212950.C780@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit><006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> <00da01c0dc73$949d4b20$b8036c96@ambar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i In-Reply-To: <00da01c0dc73$949d4b20$b8036c96@ambar>; from ambarroy@iname.com on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:38:10PM +0530 X-HomePage: http://www.sandipb.net X-OS: Linux kajaal.home 2.4.3 i586 unknown X-Archive-Number: 200105/131 X-Sequence-Number: 3843 On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 04:38:10PM +0530, Ambar Roy merrily said: > no wonder i still use linux. For some things nothing can beat linux (or for > that matter most unixes)! But this doesn't mean that win2k is crap. For some > things win2k is really cool. Take for instance the ddns system. Ever since i > implemented the win2k server for dhcp and dns for both linux and win2k > clients, i have been wondering why this feature is not available on Linux!!! What feature are you talking about? I am not very clear from the above para ... It is funny about how you mention using DNS and DHCP together. They are both an antithesis of each other ... DHCP gives dynamic addresses, while DNS relies on static addresses. To allow DNS to work reliably you would have to hardcode the IP addresses of the servers whose addresses you would have to serve. Of course, I am only talking of simple DNS servers - not round robin load balancing ones. - Sandip -- ------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb @ bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net ------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 22:49:16 2001 Received: from web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com (web8001.in.yahoo.com [203.199.70.19]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A3494A107 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010515055431.12036.qmail@web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.197.217.147] by web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 06:54:31 BST Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:54:31 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Narsingh=20Sahu?= Subject: Re: [Commercial] new cd's available at new prices To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <200105141402.f4EE29c46597@seascope.co.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/132 X-Sequence-Number: 3844 --- Sarin Chavarkar wrote: > Hi All, > > We now have the following latest versions : > Redhat 7.1 (5cd set) > Redhat 7.1 (2cd set) > Linux Mandrake 8.0 (2cd set) > Latest GNU Hurd (2cd set) > Progeny Linux 1.0 (2 cd set) > Debian 2.2r3 (3cd set) - binary > Debian 2.2r3 (3cd set) - sources > > We are pleased to announce our new prices for single > cd distributions @ Rs. 99/- per cd with shipping and > handling charges being Rs. 60/- for couriering > anywhere in India. > > Best Regards, > > Sarin Chavarkar > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Seascope Infotech Pvt. Ltd. > http://www.seascope.co.in > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > By the way, has any one tried the above web site? I tried and got blank pages! -narsingh ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? For regular News updates go to http://in.news.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 23:02:24 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6CA974A1CC for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 23:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F4444A107 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown (HELO sunil) (61.0.112.7) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2001 05:32:15 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <002701c0dd00$63638960$0bdedede@sunil> From: "Sunil" To: References: <989567370.989567370@mantramail.com> Subject: Memory Footprint Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:02:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/133 X-Sequence-Number: 3845 Hi All, Can anybody tell me how to get the memory footprint of an application on Linux? Is there any system call in Linux which is comparable to GetGlobalHeap system call on Windows? One more help : Is there Any GUI to get the memory corruption / buffer overflow etc and code coverage Thanks Sunil Parolia _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 14 23:08:40 2001 Received: from web13904.mail.yahoo.com (web13904.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.67]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AC1F14A258 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 23:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010515060537.42418.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.56.231.226] by web13904.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 23:05:37 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:05:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Lokesh Bhog Subject: Red Hat Linux 7.1 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/134 X-Sequence-Number: 3846 Dear All, Can you tell me where i can get Red Hat Linux 7.1? Is it available with some book or mag. I am willing to buy the official CD. Lokesh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Palaniappan" Organization: Videsh Sanchar Nigam Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [Commercial] new cd's available at new prices References: <20010515055431.12036.qmail@web8001.mail.in.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------66A5C6107668051B790B6195" X-Archive-Number: 200105/136 X-Sequence-Number: 3848 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------66A5C6107668051B790B6195 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Seascope Infotech Pvt. Ltd. > > http://www.seascope.co.in > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > > By the way, has any one tried the above web site? I > tried and got blank pages! > -narsingh > I have tried and got the contact details as under: Address: 158/33, Laxmi Ind. Estate New Link Road Andheri (W), Mumbai - 400 053 Tel: (022)633 8484; Fax: (022)633 1074 > G. 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Palaniappan end:vcard --------------66A5C6107668051B790B6195-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 01:35:23 2001 Received: from seascope.co.in (seascope.co.in [161.58.164.92]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A624A021 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 01:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web.seascope.co.in ([202.68.136.158]) by seascope.co.in (8.11.2) id f4F8WGH62754; Tue, 15 May 2001 02:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200105150832.f4F8WGH62754@seascope.co.in> From: "Sarin Chavarkar" To: "linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org" , "Lokesh Bhog" Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:52:45 +0550 Reply-To: "Sarin Chavarkar" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2320) For Windows 98 (4.90.3000) In-Reply-To: <20010515060537.42418.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [commercial] Re: Red Hat Linux 7.1 X-Archive-Number: 200105/137 X-Sequence-Number: 3849 Hi Lokesh, On Mon, 14 May 2001 23:05:37 -0700 (PDT), Lokesh Bhog wrote: >Can you tell me where i can get Red Hat Linux 7.1? >Is it available with some book or mag. >I am willing to buy the official CD. 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Tel : 91-22-6338484 / 8485 Fax : 91-22-6331074 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 02:03:59 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40C54A15D for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 02:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalabaridte (d2101.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [203.197.195.226]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D64A40E31 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:30:41 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000b01c0dd1c$b2766420$e2c3c5cb@kalabaridte> Reply-To: "deepak yadav" From: "deepak yadav" To: References: <3AFA5FE3.36506A43@in.velocient.com> Subject: [OT]how to make a dummy printer ? Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:24:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/138 X-Sequence-Number: 3850 hi i want to know ,how to make a dummy connector which can act as a printer the pins for RS232C r as follows 1 frame ground 2 transmit data 3 receive data 4 request to send 5 clear to send 6 data set ready 7 signal ground 8 carrier detect 15 transmit clock 17 receive clock 20 external transmit clock 22 data terminal for peripheral ready 24 ring indicator plz anyone tell me which pins are to be interconnected for the purpose. with some explainations if possible. thanks _______ deepak its urgent i have an exam tomorrow From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 02:16:10 2001 Received: from ns1 (unknown [207.211.188.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF2EA49EFB for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 02:16:04 -0700 (PDT) X-ITHouse-Forward-Path: Received: From yahoo.com by ns1 (IT House Mail Server [IT-B0-74530908-3A602030]); Tue, 15 May 2001 02:13:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3B00F353.7BE13930@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:43:55 +0530 From: Jaswinder Singh Kohli Reply-To: jskohli123@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: References: <7FADCB99FC82D41199F9000629A85D1A019894B5@dcmtechdom.dcmtech.co.in> <20010511064114.B29153@black-satan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/139 X-Sequence-Number: 3851 Regarding Books there i know 1 1. AOA explains the workings of PCI. 2.The intel Microprocessor 8086/88, 80186/80188 286 386 486 P and P pro Architecture Programming and Interfacing contains complete details of some of the stuff u asked for Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 03:11:43PM +0530, Vineet Ahuja wrote: > > > > Hi guys, > > can anyone tell me the difference b/w PCI,SCSI & IDE etc. > Peripheral Component Interconnect > > SCSI /n./ [Small Computer System Interface] A bus-independent > standard for system-level interfacing between a computer and > intelligent devices. Typically annotated in literature with > `sexy' (/sek'see/), `sissy' (/sis'ee/), and `scuzzy' > (/skuh'zee/) as pronunciation guides -- the last being the > overwhelmingly predominant form, much to the dismay of the > designers and their marketing people. One can usually assume that > a person who pronounces it /S-C-S-I/ is clueless. > > Integrated Drive Electronics > > > I'm confused in al this, or just sgest some book or site where i can > >have detailed information about these?? > > Thx > > Vineet > > > > > >------------------------------------------------ > >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > >your subscription with this mailing list is at > >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > X windows: We wrote the book on core dumps. > ................................ > Pankaj Kaushal > Proud to use GNU > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi -- Regards Jaswinder Singh Kohli jskohli@fig.org :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Uni(multi)verse is a figment of its own imagination. In truth time is but an illusion of 3D frequency grid programs. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 07:51:10 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0BF4A0A8 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13733 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002c01c0dd4e$8c2338c0$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit><006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> <00da01c0dc73$949d4b20$b8036c96@ambar> <20010514212950.C780@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: Linux security features Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:21:25 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/140 X-Sequence-Number: 3852 > What feature are you talking about? I am not very clear from the above > para ... It is funny about how you mention using DNS and DHCP > together. They are both an antithesis of each other ... DHCP gives > dynamic addresses, while DNS relies on static addresses. To allow DNS > to work reliably you would have to hardcode the IP addresses of the > servers whose addresses you would have to serve. Of course, I am only > talking of simple DNS servers - not round robin load balancing ones. This is something that i am trying to tell you. With win2k ddns and dhcp server, what you can do is as follows: 1. Set up a linux computer, and give it a hostname which is in your win2k dns domain (i.e if u hav a dns domain of linux.com, name your system linuxbox and give the domain linux.com) 2. Change a setting in the network config (on a rhl system this works!) to publish your hostname to the dhcp server (I don't remember the actual system, but there is one line to do this!) Now when you boot up your linux machine, the dhcp will assign you a ip address from it's address pool (till now it is normal...) and then if u enable your dhcp server to perform a dns update, then you will find a new host in your dns list, with the hostname of your dhcp client and the dynamically assigned ip address... The magical thing is that the dns server is updated on the fly, and the change is immediate! So now if u access the machine by its hostname, the dns server will always resolve to the correct dynamically assigned ip address. When the dhcp lease expires, the dns entry is also removed. This thing is one of the coolest features on win2k, and i switched my lan's dns server from bind to linux for this feature alone! With bind on linux (at least last time i checked) this is not possible. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 08:22:14 2001 Received: from iimk.ren.nic.in (unknown [210.18.23.11]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D184C4A021 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nikk@localhost) by iimk.ren.nic.in (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f4FFGTG03168 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:46:29 +0530 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:46:28 +0530 From: Nikhil Datta To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux security features Message-ID: <20010515204628.A3116@iimk.ren.nic.in> Mail-Followup-To: Nikhil Datta , linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <87d79jku2i.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit><006a01c0dc5a$520831d0$b8036c96@ambar> <00da01c0dc73$949d4b20$b8036c96@ambar> <20010514212950.C780@bigfoot.com> <002c01c0dd4e$8c2338c0$b8036c96@ambar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002c01c0dd4e$8c2338c0$b8036c96@ambar>; from ambarroy@iname.com on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 08:21:25PM +0530 X-Archive-Number: 200105/141 X-Sequence-Number: 3853 What's all the excitement with Dynamic DNS ? There has been a DDNS project, and patches to BIND to implement this functionality for ages. IIRC, they were supposed to be merged with mainstream BIND in 9.0, but I guess that never happened : or did it ? I'm not sure : can some one ckeck it out ? Anyway - there are tons of other implementations of DDNS : search freshmeat. http://freshmeat.net/projects/dhcpwithdynamicdns/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/dhsd/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/dyndnsservice/ Funny how people wake up to marketing hype. bah. nikk > enable your dhcp server to perform a dns update, then you will find a new > host in your dns list, with the hostname of your dhcp client and the > dynamically assigned ip address... > > The magical thing is that the dns server is updated on the fly, and the > change is immediate! So now if u access the machine by its hostname, the dns > server will always resolve to the correct dynamically assigned ip address. > When the dhcp lease expires, the dns entry is also removed. This thing is > one of the coolest features on win2k, and i switched my lan's dns server > from bind to linux for this feature alone! With bind on linux (at least last > time i checked) this is not possible. > > Bye, > /\ |\/| |3 /\ r > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > -- A princess should not be afraid -- not with a brave knight to protect her. -- McCoy, "Shore Leave", stardate 3025.3 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 11:11:26 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes.whowhere.com [209.185.123.154]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 981884A16B for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue May 15 11:08:11 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:38:11 +0530 From: "ASHISH MUKHERJEE" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ashmukh@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: X-Sender-Ip: 203.122.0.63 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 236 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/142 X-Sequence-Number: 3854 You could look up www.pcwebopedia.com or www.pcguide.com - both good sites which explain such things well. 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Message-ID: <20010516111938.A1892@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: Linux Users Group Delhi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i X-HomePage: http://www.sandipb.net X-OS: Linux kajaal.home 2.4.3 i586 unknown X-Archive-Number: 200105/144 X-Sequence-Number: 3856 Hi! Can anyone point out to a stable gcc version that i can use to compile my kernel?? I am using redhat-7.0 using gcc2.95 - a development stage compiler. - Sandip -- ------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb @ bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net ------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 22:57:29 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.180]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E008249EFE for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 22:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 22:54:21 -0700 Received: from 202.79.65.19 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2001 05:54:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.79.65.19] From: "Ajay Kumar" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Win2k + Linux Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:24:21 +0530 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 05:54:21.0693 (UTC) FILETIME=[A756E2D0:01C0DDCC] X-Archive-Number: 200105/145 X-Sequence-Number: 3857 Hi friends, I have IBM Netfinity 5600 server and I want to make it both a Win2k server and Linux server dual boot. (I am already using Winnt 4.0 + Red Hat Linux KDE desktop on some other machine. ) Is it possibe that Firstly I install Win2k and than install Red Hat 7.o server. Is they both participate in my existing Win2k Lan. Regards Ajay Kumar Strength is life, weakness is death. (Swami Vivekanand) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 23:12:22 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFB54A182 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 23:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d306.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.6]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2221A3F26A for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:39:12 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 188922DDBB; Wed, 16 May 2001 05:49:22 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:49:22 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: New Convergence bill. Message-ID: <20010516054921.A5413@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/146 X-Sequence-Number: 3858 Read todays Hindustan Times Really scary [Snip] The Centre is moving ahead on the convergence platform to bring Internet, +e-commerce and all IT-related services under a licence regime. Such a proposal +has been included in the revised draft Communications and Convergence Bill +likely to be introduced in the next session of Parliament. Apart from web content, whole swathes of the New Economy will come under the +Bill's coverage. Unified messaging, call centres, tele-banking, e-commerce, +tele-trading, tele-medicine, video conferencing etc would require the Centre's +nod. [Snip] The real thing ---> http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/160501/detFRO03.asp -- X windows: It could happen to you. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 23:28:50 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6A849F42 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 23:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.197.233.59]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D43D40B2C for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:55:12 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000b01c0de39$b8944200$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: References: Subject: Re: Win2k + Linux Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:54:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/147 X-Sequence-Number: 3859 ajay u better us e the" loadlin.exe " option it will be helpfull and better to keep one tracker other than two so confliction cases are less ----- Original Message ----- From: Ajay Kumar To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:54 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Win2k + Linux > Hi friends, > > I have IBM Netfinity 5600 server and I want to make it both a Win2k server > and Linux server dual boot. > > (I am already using Winnt 4.0 + Red Hat Linux KDE desktop on some other > machine. ) > > Is it possibe that Firstly I install Win2k and than install Red Hat 7.o > server. Is they both participate in my existing Win2k Lan. > > > Regards > > Ajay Kumar > > > > Strength is life, weakness is death. > (Swami Vivekanand) > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue May 15 23:42:45 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4865E49EFB for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 23:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mjollnir.rocklines.oyeindia.com (unknown [202.169.133.50]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E218A49F04 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 23:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from suresh@localhost) by mjollnir.rocklines.oyeindia.com (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/mjollnir-2.4) id f4G60dWM005587; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:30:39 +0530 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:30:39 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian To: linux-india-general@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [LIG] [OT] Humour Message-ID: <20010516113039.D5471@oyeindia.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-india-general@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <15106.1865.928295.256133@mail.linux-delhi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <15106.1865.928295.256133@mail.linux-delhi.org>; from raju@linux-delhi.org on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:21:21AM +0530 Organization: Hopelessly Disorganized X-OS: Linux mjollnir.rocklines.oyeindia.com 2.4.4 X-Archive-Number: 200105/148 X-Sequence-Number: 3860 * Raju Mathur [linux-india] <16/05/01 10:21 +0530>: > This is seriously funny: > http://130.89.230.46/Tools/darknet/exploits/os/solaris/sparc/7.0/ Dont get the joke - with lynx I get a 404 page which has a textbox in it (dunno wtf for). Oh I see, its javascript. Nice tribute to DNA, putting up a Marvin the Paranoid Android 404 :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian <--> mallet efn org EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 00:06:25 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA404A256 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 00:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d306.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.6]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8383F3B8 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:33:14 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2BFC22DBCE; Wed, 16 May 2001 06:37:51 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 06:37:51 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: New Convergence bill. plus plus Message-ID: <20010516063750.A5646@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <20010516054921.A5413@black-satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010516054921.A5413@black-satan>; from apenguinhead@yahoo.com on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:49:22AM +0000 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/149 X-Sequence-Number: 3861 >Read todays Hindustan Times >Really scary > >[Snip] Marking out your little outpost on the Net won't be as easy as saying HTML anymore. If the government has its way, you'll have to get a licence to post content on the Net. The Centre is moving ahead on the convergence platform to bring Internet, e-commerce and all IT-related services under a licence regime. Such a proposal has been included in the revised draft Communications and Convergence Bill likely to be introduced in the next session of Parliament. http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/160501/detFR O03.asp" The Centre is moving ahead on the convergence platform to bring Internet, +e-commerce and all IT-related services under a licence regime. Such a proposal +has been included in the revised draft Communications and Convergence Bill +likely to be introduced in>the next session of Parliament. -- X windows: It could happen to you. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 00:06:26 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA534A25D for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 00:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (d306.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.6]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55743F3CA for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:33:14 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AE9882DDBA; Wed, 16 May 2001 06:40:32 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 06:40:32 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Linux 2.3 now holds the world record Message-ID: <20010516064032.B5646@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <000b01c0de39$b8944200$09c0c0c0@mac15> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <000b01c0de39$b8944200$09c0c0c0@mac15>; from kshounish@yahoo.com on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 11:54:37AM -0700 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/150 X-Sequence-Number: 3862 Linux 2.4.3 now holds the world record by performance with IBM's DB2 in TPC-H. TPC-H is a decision support benchmark consisting of a suite of business oriented and ad-hoc queries and concurrent data modifications. This is way cool as the world record was held by SQL Server 2000 on Windows 2000 before. -----> http://www.tpc.org/tpch/results/h-ttperf.idc -- X windows: It could happen to you. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 02:38:13 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f33.hotmail.com [216.32.181.33]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0216449FF1 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 02:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 May 2001 02:35:05 -0700 Received: from 202.144.62.254 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:35:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [202.144.62.254] From: "Vivek Kukrety" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: ftp etc Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:35:04 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 09:35:05.0167 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D10A5F0:01C0DDEB] X-Archive-Number: 200105/151 X-Sequence-Number: 3863 Hello, I was running ftp/telnet/rlogin/rexec/rsh services from my linux box a few days ago (they used to start by default, after I had installed linux) , all of a sudden they stop (I did not mess around) and I have no clue what went wrong. I cant log in to those services from remote machines. Now my question is : how do I start them again ? I dont even know the names of the daemons which run those services. any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Vivek _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 04:31:58 2001 Received: from web4102.mail.yahoo.com (web4102.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.122]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA3334A267 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010516112849.24115.qmail@web4102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.27.233] by web4102.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:28:49 PDT Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Chandresh Pant Subject: Re: [OT] Humour++ To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <15106.1865.928295.256133@mail.linux-delhi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/152 X-Sequence-Number: 3864 Dear Raju --- Raju Mathur wrote: > This is seriously funny: > http://130.89.230.46/Tools/darknet/exploits/os/solaris/sparc/7.0/ > > Enjoy, > > -- Raju visit this page and you'll never stop laughing! http://i-want-a-website.com/about-linux/apr01.shtml#XP-Tour Regards ===== Chandresh Pant URL : www.chandresh.org email: chpant@yahoo, mail@chandresh.org, chpant@rediffmail.com View me here: http://www.geocities.com/chpant/MePang.jpg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 06:38:38 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A5034A1EC for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 06:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2588 invoked by uid 417); 16 May 2001 13:36:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.22) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 16 May 2001 13:36:03 -0000 Message-ID: <001801c0de0d$0e9b8c30$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <000b01c0de39$b8944200$09c0c0c0@mac15> Subject: Re: Win2k + Linux Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:05:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/153 X-Sequence-Number: 3865 totally possible........... i have a win 2k server box with mndrake 7.2 , works for me, shud work for u, mail me if u donot know the proc.. -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "kshounish" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Win2k + Linux : ajay u better us e the" loadlin.exe " option it will be helpfull and better : to keep one tracker other than two : so confliction cases are less : ----- Original Message ----- : From: Ajay Kumar : To: : Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:54 PM : Subject: [linux-delhi] Win2k + Linux : : : > Hi friends, : > : > I have IBM Netfinity 5600 server and I want to make it both a Win2k server : > and Linux server dual boot. : > : > (I am already using Winnt 4.0 + Red Hat Linux KDE desktop on some other : > machine. ) : > : > Is it possibe that Firstly I install Win2k and than install Red Hat 7.o : > server. Is they both participate in my existing Win2k Lan. : > : > : > Regards : > : > Ajay Kumar : > : > : > : > Strength is life, weakness is death. : > (Swami Vivekanand) : > : > _________________________________________________________________________ : > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. : > : > : > ------------------------------------------------ : > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : > your subscription with this mailing list is at : > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : : : ------------------------------------------------ : The mailing list archives are available at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi : From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 09:01:25 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C19E4A25C for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E494A23D for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 02:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigleapserver (unknown [203.197.229.15]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id F090741059 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:25:06 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <003f01c0ddee$483d8480$65c0c0c0@bigleap.com> From: "tumba" To: References: Subject: Re: ftp etc Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:25:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/154 X-Sequence-Number: 3866 see vivek u got to got to /etc/inetd.conf and have to check for the services there attached with # or not if yes remove the # from service and start #/etc/rc.d/init.d/inet restart everything wiiil go fine regards linuxboy kshounish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivek Kukrety" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] ftp etc > Hello, > > I was running ftp/telnet/rlogin/rexec/rsh services from my linux box a few > days ago (they used to start by default, after I had installed linux) , all > of a sudden they stop (I did not mess around) and I have no clue what went > wrong. I cant log in to those services from remote machines. Now my question > is : how do I start them again ? I dont even know the names of the daemons > which run those services. > > any help will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Vivek > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivek Kukrety" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] ftp etc > Hello, > > I was running ftp/telnet/rlogin/rexec/rsh services from my linux box a few > days ago (they used to start by default, after I had installed linux) , all > of a sudden they stop (I did not mess around) and I have no clue what went > wrong. I cant log in to those services from remote machines. Now my question > is : how do I start them again ? I dont even know the names of the daemons > which run those services. > > any help will be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Vivek > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 09:02:40 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B6224A294 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.intra.waag.org (A20.waag.org [194.134.18.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733324A253 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 03:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from A01.waag.org (list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA04408; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:33:38 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.intra.waag.org: Host list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1] claimed to be A01.waag.org Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA02358 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:03:00 +0200 Received: from saumya.sarai.kit (d306.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.6]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id C8E663F5BA for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:30:28 +0530 (IST) From: Saumya Gupta Message-ID: <20010516.10020300@saumya.sarai.kit> Subject: Sarai Newsletter 02 To: newsletter@sarai.net X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.1; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.intra.waag.org id MAA02358 Errors-To: newsletter-admin@sarai.net X-BeenThere: newsletter@sarai.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dak@sarai.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:02:03 GMT X-Archive-Number: 200105/155 X-Sequence-Number: 3867 Dear Friends In April, an interdisciplinary workshop around the body and air was held at Sarai. A two member Sarai team participated in the Collaboration and Ownership in the Digital Economy (CODE) Conference, held at Cambridge, UK. Reports on the conference and the workshop follow, along with the schedule for the month of May. Conference Report Collaboration and Ownership in the Digital Economy http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/CODE/ The CODE conference took place at Queen's College in Cambridge from the 4th to the 6th of April, 2001, and the people speaking in it ranged from Richard Stallman (founder of the Free Software Foundation), Bruce Perens (author of the Debian Social Contract), Tim Hubbard (of the Human Genome Project) to Marilyn Strathern (anthropologist), Rishabh Aiyer Ghosh (Economist), Geert Lovink (Media Theorist) and Drazen Pantic (founder of OpenNet) amongst others. The aim of the conference was to look at the intricacies of creative and inventive developmental models of Free (as in freedom) and Open source software, and their implications in terms of economy, property law, knowledge and other forms of cultural production. The most significant part of the conference was its attempt to track down the premises of copyright laws and to figure out ways in which to contest the present mad expansion of copyright regimes into the digital domain. The ideas of the Public Database, the free movement of information in the digital domain and a more open and democratic content development ethos are areas that need focussed engagement and creative intervention. Jeebesh Bagchi was invited from Sarai to attend the conference, and he and Supreet Sethi also made a presentation on Sarai to the participants. Webcast of audio recordings of the conference proceedings available at http://www.ArtsOnline.com/ Workshop@Sarai The Oxygen Project An interdisciplinary workshop on the Oxygen project was held at Sarai from April 14 - 20, 2001. Oxygen plans to become an immersive multimedia experience involving interactive installations utilising experimental interfaces, video, sound, contemporary performance art and Indian Classical dance forms. This project is a collaborative, cross-cultural and processual work founded on intersections of different media practices, performance traditions, and cultural backgrounds. It premises itself on an active participatory relationship with spectators and is designed to provoke reflection on the intangible but universal bodily function of breathing, and to give rise to an acute sensory awareness in players and participants of what it means to breathe and live in our times. It explores themes of urgent environmental concern like the quality of the air we breathe, and the intimate politics of breathing space and suffocation. It works with experiences of emancipation and illness, motion and stillness, metaphors for body and spirit, to create a physical and mental space in which the unseen fabric of air between people comes alive to become an active agent of understanding, feeling and movement. Monica Narula (Raqs Media Collective/Sarai), a video artist and photographer based in New Delhi, Sarah Neville (Heliograph Productions), a dancer and media choreographer based in Adelaide, and Mari Velonaki, (mvstudio) a media and installation artist based in Sydney, are working on the project along with Umashankar, soundscape designer, and Mrinmoyee Majumdar, Odissi dancer. More information on the project is available on the Sarai site at http://www.sarai.net/ Schedule for May, 2001 Workshop@Sarai The Cybermohalla Project The Cybermohalla project was initiated at Sarai with a month long workshop in collaboration with the Children's Education Department of Ankur: Society for Alternatives in Education. Ankur is involved with 'right to education campaign', campaign for rights of the child, campaign against child labour, the feminist movement and campaign for housing rights. The Cybermohalla project is designed to collaborate with a non-elite urban population to explore and expand new media tools and media strategies, so as to engender a broader production base for technologically mediated communication. The idea is to interact with those traditionally left out of contemporary media culture, engage with the existing dynamism and innovation available in the non-elite domains and try out a specific model of expansion that will be decentralised and capable of easy replication. Ten children, around fifteen - eighteen years old, are provided basic training in computers, audio recording, photography and text and image processing softwares to generate creative and innovative content for web and other media like posters, cartoon strip, audio tape, CD-R and photographs. The whole project is run on a GNU - Linux free software platform. The workshop will be on at the Sarai Public Access area all through May, after which the centre of activity will shift to the Basti Vikas Kendra at J.P. Colony. Turkman Gate, New Delhi. Talk@Sarai On 29th May, 2001, Amitava Kumar will give a presentation titled A reverie in the American Centre Library. The talk is based on the preface from his next book, and tries to link two markers: Library Call Number PK321 (under which, A. K. Ramanujam wrote, " the East has found a niche in the West") and PL480 (or the law of the US Congress which legislated the transfer of grain from US to countries like India and Pakistan). The linkages between these markers provide Amitava Kumar an opportunity to make some general comments, or assume a stance, vis-a-vis what we might call the circulation of goods and services in global culture. The talk will be held at 4:30 pm, in the Seminar Room, of the Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, 29 Rajpur Road, Delhi - 110054. Thank you for the response to the Sarai reader list. It is developing into an active and exciting forum. Please go to the url http://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/reader-list or mail at monica@sarai.net to subscribe. The archive of the reader-list is available online. 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Saumya ------------------- If you received this in error or would like to be removed from our list, please return us indicating: remove or un-subscribe in 'subject' field. _______________________________________________ Newsletter mailing list Newsletter@sarai.net https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/newsletter From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 09:24:19 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 884284A293 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (unknown [12.10.197.146]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8314A021 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 06:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npi.stpn.soft.net ([192.9.202.62]) by galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (8.9.3/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA31481 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 18:31:52 +0530 Message-ID: <3B02785E.D59F79FE@npi.stpn.soft.net> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:23:50 +0530 From: Upendra Uniyal Organization: Network Programs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org" Subject: nfs mount Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4F38E5C1A48954BD326F9A08" X-Archive-Number: 200105/156 X-Sequence-Number: 3868 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4F38E5C1A48954BD326F9A08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, Can nayone point me that when i am mounting a directory through nfs mount only the directory is mounted , i am not able to see the sub-directories inside that. i mounted like : /home xyz ro,no_root_squash (xyz systems name) mount -F xyz:/home /dir/home any help. Thanks Upendra --------------4F38E5C1A48954BD326F9A08 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="upendra.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Upendra Uniyal Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="upendra.vcf" begin:vcard n:Uniyal;Upendra tel;home:C-3/221 Sec-31 Noida tel;work:Network Programs x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:upendra@npi.stpn.soft.net note:"The Most Bankrupt man In The World Is The Man Who Has Lost His Enthusiasm" fn:Upendra Uniyal end:vcard --------------4F38E5C1A48954BD326F9A08-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 09:28:04 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D13BA4A296 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.intra.waag.org (A20.waag.org [194.134.18.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CED54A28F for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 07:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from A01.waag.org (list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA13608; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:01:31 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.intra.waag.org: Host list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1] claimed to be A01.waag.org Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA13400; Wed, 16 May 2001 15:58:16 +0200 Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com ([157.170.188.9]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GDvdn25448; Wed, 16 May 2001 08:57:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12542; Wed, 16 May 2001 08:57:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dbde01.itg.ti.com (dbde01.itg.ti.com [157.87.95.201]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12528; Wed, 16 May 2001 08:57:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ti.com (A0756883 [157.87.90.194]) by dbde01.itg.ti.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id KNCXX56T; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:27:35 +0530 Message-ID: <3B02874A.3A20A8BD@ti.com> From: Ramakrishnan M Organization: Texas Instruments R&D, India X-Sender: "Ramakrishnan M" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD TexasInstruments (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dak@sarai.net Cc: newsletter@sarai.net, saumya@sarai.net Subject: Re: Sarai Newsletter 02 References: <20010516.10020300@saumya.sarai.kit> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: newsletter-admin@sarai.net X-BeenThere: newsletter@sarai.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dak@sarai.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:27:30 +0530 X-Archive-Number: 200105/157 X-Sequence-Number: 3869 Saumya Gupta wrote: > > The CODE conference took place at Queen's College in Cambridge from > the 4th to the 6th of April, 2001, and the people speaking in it > ranged from Richard Stallman (founder of the Free Software > Foundation), Bruce Perens (author of the Debian Social Contract), Tim > Hubbard (of the Human Genome Project) to Marilyn Strathern > (anthropologist), Rishabh Aiyer Ghosh (Economist), Geert Lovink > (Media Theorist) and Drazen Pantic (founder of OpenNet) amongst > others. > .. > .. > .. > .. > Webcast of audio recordings of the conference proceedings available at > http://www.ArtsOnline.com/ Hello I read with lots of interest this newsletter. (I don't know how I got subscribed to it, but I like it and would like to continue with the subscription). It's great to have such a group in a place like India. I have always felt that the Free Software movement should have stregthened more in India, but unfortunately, it has not recieved wide aclaim among the "developers", though there millions of users of Free Software (though they don't really know that they are using Free Software) in India now. I have a suggestion. If you can contact the artsOnline people, please ask them to put the webcast recordings of the CODE conference proceedings in Ogg format (see http://www.xiph.org/ogg/ for details) which is a patent free format. It's a paradox that users require the non-free ("free" as in freedom not in price) real player to hear the webcast about Free Software!!! -- Ramakrishnan M Work: http://www.ti.com/ Play: http://www.symonds.net/~rkrishnan/ _______________________________________________ Newsletter mailing list Newsletter@sarai.net https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/newsletter From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 09:52:17 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA50E4A267 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from damum1.now-india.net.in (unknown [203.195.158.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43CE4A13E for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 01:54:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from core ([203.197.58.141]) by damum1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id GDFMN302.201 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:23:27 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c0dde5$89604190$1000a8c0@netserver.com> From: "Salil Mhatre" To: Subject: core dumped error Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:22:07 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/158 X-Sequence-Number: 3870 hi friend, i got one proble ... i installed jdk1.2.2 on my linux machine ... also set path in profile ... when i run java or javac it gives me ---------> Segmentation fault (core dumped). Kindly tell me the solution to avoide this also tell me the resone why it occours,......... thankx and regards.. salil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 11:32:14 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f223.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.223]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3051B4A256 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:29:03 -0700 Received: from 203.122.3.65 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 May 2001 18:29:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.122.3.65] From: "nitin batra" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: New Convergence bill. plus plus Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:29:02 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 18:29:03.0126 (UTC) FILETIME=[152D3B60:01C0DE36] X-Archive-Number: 200105/159 X-Sequence-Number: 3871 Read todays Hindustan Times >Really scary > >[Snip] Scary...!! Nah...There are already a million laws out there One more !! wont make much of a difference And by the way how on the earth they plan to implement it Last Place on the nET Have they got the resources to police the net!!!!! Snip: There is a law (or something like that) That u cant Photograph A BRIDGE...!! Dated back to WWII .... AND IT IS STILL A LAW...u r obliged to abide by it But then someone said to me arent there satellites up there checking the color of your shirt.. Maybe not ...but close Marking out your little outpost on the Net won't be as easy as saying HTML anymore. If the government has its way, you'll have to get a licence to post content on the Net. The Centre is moving ahead on the convergence platform to bring Internet, e-commerce and all IT-related services under a licence regime. Such a proposal has been included in the revised draft Communications and Convergence Bill likely to be introduced in the next session of Parliament. http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/160501/detFR O03.asp" The Centre is moving ahead on the convergence platform to bring Internet, +e-commerce and all IT-related services under a licence regime. Such a proposal +has been included in the revised draft Communications and Convergence Bill +likely to be introduced in>the next session _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 11:52:18 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA25649EFE for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.197.231.83]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AD4440BD8; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:19:11 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <002901c0dea1$a2d76560$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: Cc: References: <3B02785E.D59F79FE@npi.stpn.soft.net> Subject: Re: nfs mount Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 00:18:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/160 X-Sequence-Number: 3872 i have made the correction on u r document just check it and then start exportfs -rv again /home xyz (ro,no_root_squash) (xyz systems name) mount -t nfs xyz:/home /dir/home ----- Original Message ----- From: Upendra Uniyal <> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] nfs mount ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 20:46:10 2001 Received: from galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (unknown [12.10.197.146]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C170249FF1 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 20:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npi.stpn.soft.net ([192.9.202.62]) by galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (8.9.3/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA14356 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:16:28 +0530 Message-ID: <3B0347B2.720526EE@npi.stpn.soft.net> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:08:26 +0530 From: Upendra Uniyal Organization: Network Programs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: nfs mount References: <3B02785E.D59F79FE@npi.stpn.soft.net> <002901c0dea1$a2d76560$09c0c0c0@mac15> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A11AC97D29612445716490FC" X-Archive-Number: 200105/161 X-Sequence-Number: 3873 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A11AC97D29612445716490FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks this worked. Regards Upendra kshounish wrote: > i have made the correction on u r document just check it and then > start exportfs -rv again > /home xyz (ro,no_root_squash) (xyz systems name) > mount -t nfs xyz:/home /dir/home > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Upendra Uniyal <> > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:53 AM > Subject: [linux-delhi] nfs mount > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi --------------A11AC97D29612445716490FC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="upendra.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Upendra Uniyal Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="upendra.vcf" begin:vcard n:Uniyal;Upendra tel;home:C-3/221 Sec-31 Noida tel;work:Network Programs x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:upendra@npi.stpn.soft.net note:"The Most Bankrupt man In The World Is The Man Who Has Lost His Enthusiasm" fn:Upendra Uniyal end:vcard --------------A11AC97D29612445716490FC-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 22:17:19 2001 Received: from dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (unknown [203.197.212.137]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1445C4A2A4 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ggn.hcltech.com (mail.ggn.hcltech.com [204.160.249.8]) by dns2.ggn.hcltech.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01859 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:57:09 +0530 Received: from mail2.ggn.hcltech.com (MAIL2 [192.168.10.4]) by mail.ggn.hcltech.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id KS140ABV; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:41:58 +0530 Received: by MAIL2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:46:35 +0530 Message-ID: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB531BFB00@MAIL2> From: "Amitoj Singh Sukhija , Gurgaon" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: RE: core dumped error Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:46:34 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-Archive-Number: 200105/162 X-Sequence-Number: 3874 Hi U will have to analyse the core to find out why it was dumped. Run the linux debugger on the core to find it out. Regds, amitoj > ---------- > From: Salil Mhatre[SMTP:salilmhatre@yahoo.com] > Reply To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 2:22 PM > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Subject: [linux-delhi] core dumped error > > hi friend, > i got one proble ... i installed jdk1.2.2 on my linux machine ... also set > path in profile ... when i run java or javac it gives me ---------> > Segmentation fault (core dumped). > > Kindly tell me the solution to avoide this also tell me the resone why it > occours,......... > > thankx and regards.. > > salil > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 22:35:57 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF634A2AC for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [203.197.196.231]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA5D3F4FA for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:02:37 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 46FDE2DE6C; Thu, 17 May 2001 04:39:46 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 04:39:46 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: New Convergence bill. plus plus Message-ID: <20010517043946.A25222@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from linuxdelhi@hotmail.com on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:29:02PM -0000 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/163 X-Sequence-Number: 3875 On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:29:02PM -0000, nitin batra wrote: >Read todays Hindustan Times >>Really scary >> >>[Snip] > > >Scary...!! >Nah...There are already a million laws out there >One more !! wont make much of a difference >And by the way how on the earth they plan to implement it >Last Place on the nET >Have they got the resources to police the net!!!!! This is what I call "Stupid" forgive me but "moron" Its not about implementing. its about having the power to screw you whenever they want. see there are millions of laws which no one knows until bang! you get caught donig hanky panky with the dsp's daughter. (or doing HACKING ;) get this clear if you write something on the web like say a artical about lynx no body will do anything tough By Law its no allowed. but if you disclose something about indian army's stupid sercurity then man you had it. See this gives them a power a power that says everybody online is doing something against the law and this gives them the power to screw any one . And don't think that the media and the press will make this a big issue because they want his to happen they want to be the only one to be the information suppliers. This is a very serious just think about it. don't dismiss it like that. > >Snip: >There is a law (or something like that) >That u cant Photograph A BRIDGE...!! >Dated back to WWII .... >AND IT IS STILL A LAW...u r obliged to abide by it > >But then someone said to me arent there satellites up there >checking the color of your shirt.. >Maybe not ...but close -- X windows: Putting new limits on productivity. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed May 16 22:54:46 2001 Received: from web11003.mail.yahoo.com (web11003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.53]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6376D4A2AB for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010517055134.87331.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.16.186.219] by web11003.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:51:34 PDT Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:51:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Naresh Narang Subject: Perl modules To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <5F0021EEA434D511BE7300D0B7B6AB531BFB00@MAIL2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/164 X-Sequence-Number: 3876 Hi I have this problem with perl. From CPAN shell, it shows all the modules as installed, but when I try to access them in a program, it can't find those modules. I tried setting PERLLIB, PATH etc. but it did not help. Any ideas? Thanks, Naresh ===== -- Naresh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 00:31:52 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f3.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.3]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C33F4A144 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:28:40 -0700 Received: from 203.122.3.65 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2001 07:28:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.122.3.65] From: "nitin batra" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: New Convergence bill. plus plus Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:28:40 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2001 07:28:40.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[FED64F60:01C0DEA2] X-Archive-Number: 200105/165 X-Sequence-Number: 3877 Moron Open your eyes..it is the same way IT dept can come and raid your place anytime they want They can do the same thing to just about anyone This is how it works Doesnt the govt. knows the unaccounted money how much it exists and in what quantities but that is how they get the power in democracy As if they cant come and put some coke in your drawer and come and get you..... watch out may be they already are!!!!!! This is how it works Democracy gives you freedom to speak but it also gives goverment to defend the rest of population against your subversive activities point in case....IRS>FBI>NSA>> thats how democracy works Take it or leave it I could be wrong but may be not No ones dismissing the article..... but u have to accept it The wild-west days of the NET are over WAke up...or keep zzzzzzzz -------------------------------------------------------------------------IT IS JUST A DISCUSSION!!!!!!! On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 06:29:02PM -0000, nitin batra wrote: >Read todays Hindustan Times >>Really scary >> >>[Snip] > > >Scary...!! >Nah...There are already a million laws out there >One more !! wont make much of a difference >And by the way how on the earth they plan to implement it >Last Place on the nET >Have they got the resources to police the net!!!!! This is what I call "Stupid" forgive me but "moron" Its not about implementing. its about having the power to screw you whenever they want. see there are millions of laws which no one knows until bang! you get caught donig hanky panky with the dsp's daughter. (or doing HACKING ;) get this clear if you write something on the web like say a artical about lynx no body will do anything tough By Law its no allowed. but if you disclose something about indian army's stupid sercurity then man you had it. See this gives them a power a power that says everybody online is doing something against the law and this gives them the power to screw any one . And don't think that the media and the press will make this a big issue because they want his to happen they want to be the only one to be the information suppliers. This is a very serious just think about it. don't dismiss it like that. > >Snip: >There is a law (or something like that) >That u cant Photograph A BRIDGE...!! >Dated back to WWII .... >AND IT IS STILL A LAW...u r obliged to abide by it > >But then someone said to me arent there satellites up there >checking the color of your shirt.. >Maybe not ...but close _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 00:36:10 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41B04A144 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.197.229.12]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 2641340C65 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:02:51 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000601c0df0c$512a4460$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: References: <20010517055134.87331.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Perl modules Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:02:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/166 X-Sequence-Number: 3878 check where the perl exe is there in /usr/bin/ or not ----- Original Message ----- From: Naresh Narang To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:51 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Perl modules > Hi > > I have this problem with perl. From CPAN shell, it > shows all the modules as installed, but when I try to > access them in a program, it can't find those modules. > I tried setting PERLLIB, PATH etc. but it did not > help. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Naresh > > > ===== > -- Naresh > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 00:56:49 2001 Received: from gateway.orientzone.com (unknown [202.54.100.212]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898464A247 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coder16 (coder16.orientzone.com [192.168.1.27]) by gateway.orientzone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA05606 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:18:30 +0530 Message-ID: <009301c0dea8$2197ea90$1b01a8c0@orientzone.com> From: "Madhur Daga" To: References: Subject: [Commercial] - Experienced Linux Web/Sys Admin Required Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:35:22 +0530 Organization: Inqube! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200105/167 X-Sequence-Number: 3879 Hi All, I run a technology co. called Inqube!, which has recently closed its Series A funding from investors outside of India. Our aim is to build the world's first Linux based integrated Voice & Wireless Enabled Telephony server, targeted to carriers in the APAC region. The telephony server will allow voice and wireless navigation of data. We expect a prototype to be ready in 6-8 months. Our development centre is in New Delhi, with rep offices in Mumbai, Bangalore & California. Please visit http://www.inqube.com to get more info and see an indicative demo of how our finished product will work. 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CEO Inqube Web P Ltd. http://www.inqube.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 01:20:56 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 032C94A220 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 01:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1 (unknown [207.211.188.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C9004A2AB for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:04:06 -0700 (PDT) X-ITHouse-Forward-Path: Received: From yahoo.com by ns1 (IT House Mail Server [IT-B0-74530908-3A602030]); Wed, 16 May 2001 23:59:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3B0334DD.275DF18B@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:48:05 +0530 From: Jaswinder Singh Kohli Reply-To: linux4jal@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi Subject: Cheese Worm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/168 X-Sequence-Number: 3880 "Cheese Worm" Fixes Broken Linux Systems? Posted by michael on Wednesday May 16, @11:34PM from the also-orders-pizza,-pepperoni,-thin-crust dept. Wakko Warner writes: "According to this article, a new Linux worm named "Cheese worm" has been spreading lately. The difference between this and other Linux worms is that Cheese worm attempts to fix backdoors added by other worms, removing malicious code and user accounts and scanning for other infected systems on the network. Now if someone would only release something like this for Outlook that turns off VBScript..." ( Read More... | 73 of 116 comments ) Found on Slashdot dated `see above` The main article is at http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-5949401.html -- Regards Jaswinder Singh Kohli jskohli@fig.org :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Uni(multi)verse is a figment of its own imagination. In truth time is but an illusion of 3D frequency grid programs. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 04:49:16 2001 Received: from galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (unknown [12.10.197.146]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7FD84A1EF for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 04:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npi.stpn.soft.net ([192.9.202.62]) by galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (8.9.3/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA14431 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:18:59 +0530 Message-ID: <3B03B8CB.C4D72CA3@npi.stpn.soft.net> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:10:59 +0530 From: Upendra Uniyal Organization: Network Programs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org" Subject: cannot execute binary file Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A7331CA9F5DDCE6D6301B240" X-Archive-Number: 200105/169 X-Sequence-Number: 3881 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A7331CA9F5DDCE6D6301B240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am really surprised that one of my binary file doesnot excutes in linux 7 while the same gets executed in 6.2 linux. eg: ./xyz (xyz) is the file this don't execute in linux7 while the same commnd runs with linux 6.2.I have checked the permission and same file when copied to 6.2 runs fine , any tips. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 10:07:36 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B82434A0EE for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.intra.waag.org (A20.waag.org [194.134.18.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E374A29B for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 01:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from A01.waag.org (list@www.sarai.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA26749; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:09:48 +0200 Received: from ns1-isb.sdnpk.org ([203.135.44.9]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA26589; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:56:55 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: mail.intra.waag.org: Host [203.135.44.9] claimed to be ns1-isb.sdnpk.org Received: from zubair (host-216-252-170-194.interpacket.net [216.252.170.194]) by ns1-isb.sdnpk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA01319; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:55:14 +0500 From: "Zubair Faisal Abbasi" To: , Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010516.10020300@saumya.sarai.kit> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: Sarai Newsletter ePoor.org Errors-To: newsletter-admin@sarai.net X-BeenThere: newsletter@sarai.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: dak@sarai.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:58:45 +0500 X-Archive-Number: 200105/172 X-Sequence-Number: 3884 Dear Saumya, Greetings from Pakistan! The following outlines a Pakistan based initiative spearheaded to bridge digital divide with pro-poor perspective. This initiative is rooted in 'community development approach' and seeks to create synergy of both the computer-based software of the Information technology and community-based 'social software' of the pro-poor organizations and programmes. I hope, the following helps explaining the mission, philosophy, and core themes of the "most needed" initiative in Pakistan. Regards, Zubair Faisal Abbasi. CEO/Project Director, ePoor.org Waheed Plaza, West 52, First Floor, Blue Area, Islamabad, Pakistan. Ph: 092-051-2201484, 0303-7759274 -------------------------------------------------------- Let Us Make IT Empowering The Poor And The Marginalized -------------------------------------------------------- http://ePoor.org IT empowers Mission The mission of ePoor.org is to overcome the digital divide in Pakistan. To this end, it will develop information technology (IT) solutions for poverty eradication, undertake and advocate measures to enhance the access of poor communities to IT resources, and provide policy advice and carry out advocacy to ensure the installation of structures and frameworks required for pro-poor development. Philosophy The philosophy of ePoor.org is based on the highly successful efforts of community development led by such pioneers as Akhter Hameed Khan and Shoaib Sultan Khan. These efforts revolve around the creation of social capital to enhance the coping and adaptive capacities and strategies of the poor. An alternative to the traditional, charity-based approaches to poverty eradication, the pro-poor perspective relies on interventions that strategically reinforce each other in enhancing the collective capacity of poor communities. In Pakistan, such interventions have taken the form of rural support programs, community building programs, integrated rural development programs and others. While there is considerable diversity among these programs, they all share a belief that the best way of eradicating poverty is by targeting the community, namely by strengthening the capacity of local communities to solve their own problems and overcome their obstacles. The focus on community can help build up capacity in the rural areas to access and use other development resources, including for example, public sector investments, micro-credit, appropriate technology, and managerial and entrepreneurial resources. Background: Technological Change and Poverty Eradication The success of the community development programs in Pakistan and elsewhere was bolstered considerably by the fact that their introduction coincided with the emergence of a major technological breakthrough, the Green Revolution. On the one hand, it provided the advocates of community organization with a general-purpose tool that could enhance the income generation capacity of the poor; and on the other hand, it provided a badly needed corrective to the possibly inegalitarian impact of the technological revolution as well as its potential of dissipating social structures and destabilizing political arrangements. Today, the IT revolution has stimulated hopes of similar opportunities and fears of similar adverse impacts. On the one hand, it has spurred a tremendous expansion in investment and productivity, but on the other hand its benefits are increasingly restricted to a small and economically advanced minority. In Pakistan, the highly ambitious program on technological development is oriented mainly towards the dynamic, urban, and export-oriented sector. The expanding access to IT resources is concentrated in the metropolitan areas, the developing data and information systems are oriented towards the needs precisely of these areas, whose residents will be the only one to benefit from the envisaged improvements in governance, quality of public services, and the emerging investment opportunities and consequent productivity growth. The danger is that as in other countries, the unfolding of the potential of IT and the success of the governmental program to facilitate such unfolding will further deepen the divide between the rich and the poor, and thus further destabilize the polity, undermine social structures, and impoverish and marginalize rural areas. There is a need for creative and critical thinking to determine how the potential of this revolution can be harnessed in the interests of poor communities. This is not a new idea. Concerns about the emerging digital divide are fairly well known and have been remarked upon by a variety of observers ranging from Bill Gates to Hillary Clinton, from the management Guru C. K. Prahalad to the UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, and from the NGO visionary Ashok Khosla to the World Bank President James Wolfensohn. The IT policy of the government of Pakistan, as that of many other developing countries, recognizes these concerns and seeks to support innovative solutions. However, these policy aims have not yet been translated into practice. Indeed, the only investment thus far is in programs with relatively low and uncertain payoffs, most particularly the opening of technology training schools in rural areas. The ePoor Response The initiative of ePoor.org is to respond precisely to this challenge. In contrast to the top-down and “supply-side” orientation of the existing programs, our approach starts from what may be described as the demand side of technology. This approach does not take the view that technological adaptation and development is hindered primarily by the high costs of technology – or, equivalently, that it can be facilitated by a variety of subsidies. Rather, this approach concentrates on the inadequate individual and collective capacity of marginalized groups to benefit from the technology, and thus seeks to invest in actions that would enhance this ability to benefit. In other words, this program is oriented towards creating a demand for technology, with the assumption that the market can then provide the appropriate response to the demand. The main vehicle for such demand creation is investment in the capacity of communities to use the resources for their own economic, social, political, and cultural purposes. As a result, ePoor.org seeks mainly to work collaboratively with community development organizations to raise awareness, collect and organize information that can be of use to poor communities, and advocate changes that can provide these communities equal access to knowledge resources and infrastructure of IT. Program of Work The showcase activity of ePoor.org is the proposed Villages OnLine (VOL) portal. It will operate only in selected districts, chosen in collaboration with community development organizations, and aim to digitize all relevant information in each village – including data on economic, demographic, and institutional variables, cultural and social trends, production of goods and services, property rights, and development activities – structure it and put it on-line. In doing so, the aim is to enable the communities to monitor their progress, learn from others, market their products, and assess the quality of the services and facilities available to them. Another aim is to encourage imitation, and thus the development of independent regional databases, which can be linked to each other. The purpose of VOL is to simultaneously enhance the access of poor communities to governance, markets, services, and technologies. The database will provide transparency, enable tracking of information and progress, facilitate collective decisions, export lessons of experience, provide information on crafts and products of the village, identify investment opportunities as well as opportunities for philanthropic and charitable activities. More importantly, by creating information that is at the same time relevant and useful for village communities, it will provide an incentive for using the database and therefore developing IT capacity in the community. This activity will be an ongoing one, and will provide the spine or the central frame around which other modules will be arranged, although they will be developed independently and will have independent utility. The initial expansion of this information in the rural areas will be through the community development network. The financial structure of the arrangement will be refined over time. Initially, it will have to be subsidized so as to create an awareness of the utility of the information. Subsequently, it can be provided commercially through franchising operations. Once the database reaches a critical stage in its development, the portal can begin to sustain itself financially by lining the fee to the maintenance and development costs. The VOL module will be bilingual initially. Subsequently, through a separate activity, it will be extended to regional languages as well. It will also use voice recognition technology to facilitate access by non-literate populations. Starting from the idea that poverty eradication is best addressed through interventions that strengthen the capacity of communities, ePoor’s program of work has been divided into four major themes: “ePoor Governance”, “ePoor Markets”, “ePoor Services”, and “ePoor Technologies”. We use the word poor deliberately, in order to suggest that notwithstanding the common dictionary meanings, the word “poor” need not mean “low quality”. Thus, we use “ePoor governance” to refer to governance that is relevant to the conditions of the poor, not to the quality of governance to which the poor – and indeed, all the people of Pakistan – have become accustomed. The four thematic areas are oriented respectively towards capacity for self-governance, benefiting from market opportunities, accessing social services, and using and deploying technologies. These should be viewed as supportive activities, which are meant to facilitate and stimulate actions by governments, community development organizations, and the private sector. Within the overall themes, the work program will be divided into modules or projects. Each modules is selected on the basis of three criteria: relevance to the overall goals of the theme area, interest in collaboration by partner organizations, and strategic impact of the work in mobilizing supportive actions by governments, NGOs and the private sector. Core Themes Under the core themes the activities given below are based on the ePoor.org’ s efforts for relevant content, infrastructure and capacity development of poor communities. 1- ePoor Governance - The aim of the Poor Governance theme is to support the use of IT for improving the system of governance, and in particular making it accessible and responsive towards the needs of the poor. The conception of this theme revolves around two strands: disclosure and outreach. - The first strand – disclosure – refers to making information of a public nature available in a manner that it is easily and readily accessible to the poor. - An example is the proposed NGOs on the Web (NOW) database and search engine, which will collect and organize information on pro-poor organizations and place it on the web. It will thus enable shared learning among these organizations, set standards of performance, encourage disclosure and transparency, and thus help attract resources and export knowledge. A companion module is the Corporate Law Information Project (CLIP), which seeks to make information on corporate groups widely accessible. - The second strand – outreach – refers to collecting information on markets, products, services, and institutions that can help local communities make better decisions. It also includes information about the communities themselves; such information can attract attention as well as resources for the communities. The primary engine for this activity is the VOL program. - This initiative can also work in tandem with the initiative to work as eHosts and thus develop broad based opportunities for online consultations, documentation and transcription. 2- ePoor Markets - The goal of this theme area is the creation of pro-poor market opportunities through the judicious application of information technology. - Again, the primary engine for this activity is the VOL project. It will be oriented towards providing information to potential buyers of products and services produced in villages – which can be developed (subsequently, and as a separate activity) into an e-commerce program to enable sale and purchase of goods and services over the web. - A related activity is the development of web-based sources of information on goods and products needed by poor communities, including seeds, fertilizer, construction materials, and others. Again, this can be developed separately into an e-commerce site. - Developing policy advice and advocacy on initiating processes through which the benefits of information technology begin to reach poor communities - including pricing policies, infrastructure development, incentives for businesses, credit policies, e-governance policies, and others. 3- ePoor Services - The aim of this theme area is to promote and facilitate the use of IT in the provision of social services (education, health) in order both to improve the quality of these services, and to make them accessible to poor communities and rural areas. - Given the overall philosophy of the approach, the structure of the ePoor Services is to enhance the capacity of village communities to mobilize, access, manage, and monitor the delivery of social services. To this end, the goal is to organize information and knowledge resources into poor-friendly formats and structures. - A component program, ePoor Health, will be developed in collaboration with health-based organizations (e.g. APPNA-Sehat), and will be aimed at collecting information that can enable the community-based health groups to access information on health-related issues from the web. Some of this information is already present on the web (e.g. through webdoctor.org). The rest can be collected and organized in the form of a web portal with links to existing sites. - A second component, ePoor Education, will aim to assist village communities accessing and improving education services. A flagship program in this area is the Virtual Library project, being developed in collaboration with SDPI and the University of Peshawar. - The theme area also includes the identification of institutional and financial mechanisms to induce services to move into rural or poor areas, and for these service agencies to register improvements in quality. 4- ePoor Technologies - Research on the information needs of the urban and rural poor. The research includes the aspects of access and control over IT infrastructure and content. - Development of portals and websites that provide access to information of relevance and use to the target communities. - Policy recommendations on equitable IT sector growth which fosters better prospects for participatory and equitable growth. Deliverables Websites, information portals, compact discs, IT solutions including e-commerce and support for e-conferencing Governance ePoor.org is a non-profit public interest organization. It has independent Board of Governors and is managed by Project Director who works with a team of IT specialists. Partnerships and Projects ePoor.org seeks to develop a partnership networks to advance the agenda of overcoming the digital divide. To this end, it has started developing a long list of potential collaborators, including pro-poor NGOs, software developers, business groups, government institutions, and organizations engaged in research, advice and advocacy. The aims of such partnerships are: · Synergies from complementary skills, knowledge and experience. · Getting support for remote volunteering, internship programmes. · Opportunities to develop more culturally and politically sensitive IT development approaches. · Strengthening of local human resource talent and leadership for equitable IT sector growth. · More cost-effective delivery closer to end-users specially those living in remote rural areas. · Inter-organizational knowledge sharing and learning. The following organizations have been contacted for joint work: 1- SUNGI Development Foundation (http://sungi.sdnpk.org) ePoor.org has approached SUNGI and SAAG (Sustainable Agriculture Action Group) to jointly undertake a website development and CD publishing project on using IT in advocacy on farmer’s rights, food rights, and unethical incidence of bio-technologies. Initial understanding has been reached and now project proposal is being developed. 2- Consumer Rights Commission of Pakistan (http://crcp.sdnpk.org) ePoor.org has approached CRCP to develop a joint project on Consumer Education and Empowerment. The project includes a consumer portal and CD to disseminate information on consumer issues, consumer concerns regarding products and services, consumer laws, and networking consumer initiatives etc. The project proposal is ready for submission to other partner organizations. 3- TheNetwork for Consumer Protection in Pakistan (http://thenetwork.org.pk) TheNetwork is being contacted to join the above-mentioned project on Consumer Education and Empowerment. This organization would be a good resource on information on consumer issues especially on health related problems. 4- Ghazi Barotha Tarqiati Idara (GBTI), A project NGO working for the rehabilitation of the project affected person of Ghazi Barotha Hydropower Project has been contacted for the pilot phase of VOL (Villages Online) in which ePoor.org would create websites of the three Model Villages developed for project affected persons. These websites would bring into focus the economy, governance structure, poverty profile, demography, social services (e.g., education and health facilities), and other aspects of living. 5- APNA Sehat http://www.appna.org/SEHAT.htm APNA SEHAT, an innovative project of Association of Pakistani Physicians of North America for primary health care in rural areas, has been contacted and they have assured full cooperation in developing partnership and contribute in ePoor.org efforts. 6- IDSP - Institute for Development Studies and Practice (http://idsp.sdnpk.org) IDSP institute has been contacted and it is willing to work in close collaboration with ePoor.org. The fact that the institute has orientation of ‘information technology as a tool for development’ the partnership with ePoor.org has a lot of potential for collaborative work especially in the remote areas. 7- Computer Society of Pakistan Computer Society of Pakistan, has been contacted and it has shown great interest in collaborating with ePoor.org. This body of IT specialists is working to promote computer use for education, impart IT training to students and professionals, and holding IT seminars and exhibitions. Projects In the start up phase of its activities, ePoor.org has developed the following projects and seeking partners to start working on them: VOL: Villages Online. NOW: NGOs On the Web. CLIP: Corporate Law Information Project. CIEP: Consumer Information and Empowerment Programme. Virtual Library: Project is under development with Peshawar University and SDPI. PRIDE: Participatory, Representative, and Informative Dialogue. eMART: Expanding Market of The Rural and Traditional eHealth: Expanding the Health Care _______________________________________________ Newsletter mailing list Newsletter@sarai.net https://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/newsletter From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 10:07:39 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 683B64A0EE for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1 (unknown [207.211.188.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BEC04A2A9 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 01:34:42 -0700 (PDT) X-ITHouse-Forward-Path: Received: From yahoo.com by ns1 (IT House Mail Server [IT-B0-74530908-3A602030]); Thu, 17 May 2001 01:31:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3B034AC7.437C1D0A@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:21:35 +0530 From: Jaswinder Singh Kohli Reply-To: linux4jal@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Win2k + Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/173 X-Sequence-Number: 3885 Here is a really long, so take time and read carefully and understand it before doing anything. Q. Want a dual boot system with 2k and Linux. So lets begin. Here are the steps some detailed and some in brief, out of them what you don't understand mail me. 1. W2k has its own boot loader NTLDR, and Linux has a lot of 'em. 2. NTLDR usually gets installed in the partition's starting bytes instead of MBR. In my case which was a long long time ago. with win98, w2k, Linux. it was so. Just try to figure out your boot.ini, NTLDR where are they. 3. When you install linux. install it on MBR but then you will have to go thru the 2 bootloaders everytime you boot 2k, but if you wanna go that way and don't wanna use any options while loading 2k, better change the tmeout value to 0 or your convenient. value.Give lilo the partition of your choice that is onb ehich the 2k is installed, It will just pass the control to the nt loader. and from there on the NT will will boot. IT IS BETTER NOT TO DISTURB NTLDR SO USE THIS WAY. AND AT TIME OF INSTALLATION DON'T INSTALL LILO ON """""MBR""""". 4. The other way is installing LILO not onto MBR but on the partition where linux is installed and don't do that at install time as then you won't be able to get into Linux with boot floppies. if you have RH with debian you can use the cd's to pass the command line parameteres to Linux kernel and you can get into Linux( RH CD's dont support this). After u are in, If you have installed the LILO on MBR. remove "lilo -U" command without quotes. Change the lilo.conf file the line with boot=/dev/hdaX where X is your boot partition. Run Lilo as "lilo" 5. NTLDR uses the bootsectors of OSes to boot as a file. So now you need to have the Linux bootsector as a file availiable to NTLDR. Now something about bootsector-- it is 512 bytes in size and is found in the starting of the booting partition. Here our boot partition is is hdaX where lilo is installed. 6. Lets make it a file. with command that follows dd if=/dev/hdaX of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 lets analyze the above command dd can be taken as diskdupe or is a raw disk copying program. if ==> Specify the input file ( Here the input file is out boot partition hdaX) of ==> Output file (Here we need the bootsector in a file so the output file so it is bootsect.lnx) bs ==> Transfer these much bytes at a time ir read 512 bytes and write 512 bytes at a single instance.( Here we need only 512 bytes so set size as 512.) count => How many times repeat the above command(Here count =1 says that read and write 512 bytes only 1 time). --- Just copy this file bootsect.lnx to floppy dont use linux NTFS driver to write onto NTFS part., as it is in beta so may corrupt ure filesystem. so reboot into 2k, and edit boot.ini file as follows if it is FAT so copy that to 2k partition and edit the boot.ini file as folows --: add a line under [operating systems] can be last Z:\bootsect.lnx="This is my comment for Linux" where the Z: is boot drive where boot.ini and bootsect.lnx and other files are there.. reboot tye system and The Linux entry will show up and urew done so start. any comments please send it to me. jskohli@fig.org Ajay Kumar wrote: > Hi friends, > > I have IBM Netfinity 5600 server and I want to make it both a Win2k server > and Linux server dual boot. > > (I am already using Winnt 4.0 + Red Hat Linux KDE desktop on some other > machine. ) > > Is it possibe that Firstly I install Win2k and than install Red Hat 7.o > server. Is they both participate in my existing Win2k Lan. > > Regards > > Ajay Kumar > > Strength is life, weakness is death. > (Swami Vivekanand) > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr -- Regards Jaswinder Singh Kohli jskohli@fig.org :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Uni(multi)verse is a figment of its own imagination. In truth time is but an illusion of 3D frequency grid programs. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 10:10:40 2001 Received: from web11003.mail.yahoo.com (web11003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.53]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C40C4A2C9 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010517170703.71441.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.107.13.201] by web11003.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:07:03 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Naresh Narang Subject: Re: Perl modules To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <000601c0df0c$512a4460$09c0c0c0@mac15> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/174 X-Sequence-Number: 3886 Hey Bhagwan. Naresh --- kshounish wrote: > check where the perl exe is there in /usr/bin/ or > not > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Naresh Narang > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:51 PM > Subject: [linux-delhi] Perl modules > > > > Hi > > > > I have this problem with perl. From CPAN shell, > it > > shows all the modules as installed, but when I try > to > > access them in a program, it can't find those > modules. > > I tried setting PERLLIB, PATH etc. but it did not > > help. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Naresh > > > > > > ===== > > -- Naresh > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > The mailing list archives are available at > > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ===== -- Naresh __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 10:12:48 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [210.214.90.236]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C914A1F0 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4HHPJQ01054; Thu, 17 May 2001 22:55:19 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: cannot execute binary file References: <3B03B8CB.C4D72CA3@npi.stpn.soft.net> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 17 May 2001 22:55:18 +0530 In-Reply-To: <3B03B8CB.C4D72CA3@npi.stpn.soft.net> Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/175 X-Sequence-Number: 3887 >>>>> "Upendra" == Upendra Uniyal writes: Upendra> Hi, I am really surprised that one of my binary file Upendra> doesnot excutes in linux 7 while the same gets executed Upendra> in 6.2 linux. Upendra> eg: ./xyz (xyz) is the file this don't execute in linux7 Upendra> while the same commnd runs with linux 6.2.I have checked Upendra> the permission and same file when copied to 6.2 runs fine Upendra> , any tips. Can you please post the output of the commands "file xyz", and "ldd ./xyz" ? 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From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 12:24:55 2001 Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA7DC4A14F for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialpool-210-214-91-96.maa.sify.net (HELO analytical) (210.214.91.96) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2001 19:21:37 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <003401c0df06$d14f3200$605bd6d2@analytical> From: "yash" To: Subject: can we do a partitionless install for redhat7.0 Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:54:36 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/177 X-Sequence-Number: 3889 Hey, I am a student and new to Linux world. I have installed Redhat7.0 on my machine using conventional partitions. My friend wants to install linux on his machine also but he doesnt want to touch his partitions...can anyone please suggest a way. Preferrably for redhat 7 Yash \!!???!!/ / _ _ \ ____ ( 0 0 ) ____ ( _ )~~~~~~~~~~\oOOO/~~~\(_)/~~~\OOOo/~~~~~~~~~~( __ ) | | | | | | YASH DAYAL | | | | 4th Year COMPUTER SCIENCE ENGINEERING | | | | | | | | email--> yash_dayal@rediffmail.com | | | | yash_dayal@yahoo.com | | |_| phone--> 91-011-6014004 |__| (__)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(___) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 14:05:27 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 204F34A13C for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 2844 invoked by uid 417); 17 May 2001 21:03:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.142.198) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 17 May 2001 21:03:02 -0000 Message-ID: <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:19:41 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/178 X-Sequence-Number: 3890 aaarrrgh ! These messages are really becoming a nuisance.... cant u ask all the members to provide a second mail address...if they have one.. so you could inform them on that address....instead of here ! I mean email addresses are mostly free....everyone could afford a spare one...u know ? :o) chao ! Amit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:38 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: > > yash_dayal@yahoo.com > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 19:16:05 2001 Received: from nda.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D921549F1E for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 19:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mac15 (unknown [203.200.121.197]) by nda.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id 37DB7409E9 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:42:53 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000d01c0dfa8$c629c5a0$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: "kshounish" To: References: <003401c0df06$d14f3200$605bd6d2@analytical> Subject: Re: can we do a partitionless install for redhat7.0 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:41:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/179 X-Sequence-Number: 3891 see yash its a common copncept that if no place left in on disk then how can u load linux but if space is there then u can use fdisk utility of linux to make new partition . for that u dont need to handle or touch the windows partition. ----- Original Message ----- From: yash To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] can we do a partitionless install for redhat7.0 > Hey, > I am a student and new to Linux world. I have installed Redhat7.0 on my > machine using conventional partitions. My friend wants to install linux on > his machine also but he doesnt want to touch his partitions...can anyone > please suggest a way. Preferrably for redhat 7 > > Yash > > > \!!???!!/ > / _ _ \ > ____ ( 0 0 ) > ____ > ( _ )~~~~~~~~~~\oOOO/~~~\(_)/~~~\OOOo/~~~~~~~~~~( __ ) > | | > | | > | | YASH DAYAL > | | > | | 4th Year COMPUTER SCIENCE ENGINEERING | | > | | > | | > | | email--> yash_dayal@rediffmail.com > | | > | | yash_dayal@yahoo.com > | | > |_| phone--> 91-011-6014004 > |__| > (__)~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~(___) > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 21:07:11 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0EBD4A136 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1655 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 04:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.22) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 04:04:49 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c0df4f$8dbfc6a0$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <3B034AC7.437C1D0A@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Win2k + Linux Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:33:49 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/180 X-Sequence-Number: 3892 nobody could have described better.... both the methods described work perfectly fine, using lilo or NTLDR.... i guess u better go in for NTLDR as winduhs might b ur primary OS... -js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaswinder Singh Kohli" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Win2k + Linux : Here is a really long, so take time and read carefully and understand it : before doing anything. : : Q. Want a dual boot system with 2k and Linux. : : So lets begin. Here are the steps some detailed and some in brief, out : of them : what you don't understand mail me. : : : 1. W2k has its own boot loader NTLDR, and Linux has a lot of 'em. : : 2. NTLDR usually gets installed in the partition's starting bytes : instead of : MBR. : In my case which was a long long time ago. with win98, w2k, Linux. : it was : so. : Just try to figure out your boot.ini, NTLDR where are they. : : 3. When you install linux. install it on MBR but then you will have to : go thru : the : 2 bootloaders everytime you boot 2k, but if you wanna go that way : and : don't wanna use any : options while loading 2k, better change the tmeout value to 0 or : your : convenient. : value.Give lilo the partition of your choice that is onb ehich the : 2k is : installed, : It will just pass the control to the nt loader. and from there on : the NT : will will boot. : : IT IS BETTER NOT TO DISTURB NTLDR SO USE THIS WAY. : AND AT TIME OF INSTALLATION DON'T INSTALL LILO ON """""MBR""""". : : 4. The other way is installing LILO not onto MBR but on the partition : where : linux is installed and : don't do that at install time as then you won't be able to get into : Linux : with boot floppies. if you have RH : with debian you can use the cd's to pass the command line : parameteres to : Linux kernel and you can get into : Linux( RH CD's dont support this). : After u are in, If you have installed the LILO on MBR. remove "lilo : -U" : command without quotes. : Change the lilo.conf file : the line with boot=/dev/hdaX where X is your boot partition. : Run Lilo as "lilo" : : 5. NTLDR uses the bootsectors of OSes to boot as a file. So now you : need to : have the : Linux bootsector as a file availiable to NTLDR. : Now something about bootsector-- it is 512 bytes in size and is : found in : the starting of the : booting partition. : Here our boot partition is is hdaX where lilo is installed. : : 6. Lets make it a file. with command that follows : : dd if=/dev/hdaX of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1 : : lets analyze the above command : dd can be taken as diskdupe or is a raw disk copying program. : if ==> Specify the input file ( Here the input file is out : boot : partition hdaX) : of ==> Output file (Here we need the bootsector in a file so : the : output file so it is bootsect.lnx) : bs ==> Transfer these much bytes at a time ir read 512 bytes : and : write 512 bytes at a single instance.( Here we : : need only 512 bytes so set size as 512.) : count => How many times repeat the above command(Here count : =1 says : that read and write 512 bytes only 1 time). : : --- : Just copy this file bootsect.lnx to floppy dont use linux NTFS driver to : write : onto NTFS part., as it is in beta so may corrupt : ure filesystem. so reboot into 2k, and edit boot.ini file as follows if : it is : FAT so copy that to 2k partition and edit the : boot.ini file as folows --: : : add a line under : [operating systems] can be last : Z:\bootsect.lnx="This is my comment for Linux" : : where the Z: is boot drive where boot.ini and bootsect.lnx and other : files are : there.. : : reboot tye system and The Linux entry will show up and urew done so : start. : : : any comments please send it to me. jskohli@fig.org : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Ajay Kumar wrote: : : > Hi friends, : > : > I have IBM Netfinity 5600 server and I want to make it both a Win2k server : > and Linux server dual boot. : > : > (I am already using Winnt 4.0 + Red Hat Linux KDE desktop on some other : > machine. ) : > : > Is it possibe that Firstly I install Win2k and than install Red Hat 7.o : > server. Is they both participate in my existing Win2k Lan. : > : > Regards : > : > Ajay Kumar : > : > Strength is life, weakness is death. : > (Swami Vivekanand) : > : > _________________________________________________________________________ : > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. : > : > ------------------------------------------------ : > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage : > your subscription with this mailing list is at : > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr : : -- : : : Regards : Jaswinder Singh Kohli : jskohli@fig.org : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : The Uni(multi)verse is a figment of its own imagination. : In truth time is but an illusion of 3D frequency grid programs. : : : ------------------------------------------------ : The mailing list archives are available at : http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi : From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 21:13:16 2001 Received: from galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (unknown [12.10.197.146]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15164A13C for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from npi.stpn.soft.net ([192.9.202.62]) by galaxy.npi.stpn.soft.net (8.9.3/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA03825 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:42:36 +0530 Message-ID: <3B049F56.1642D521@npi.stpn.soft.net> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:34:38 +0530 From: Upendra Uniyal Organization: Network Programs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: cannot execute binary file References: <3B03B8CB.C4D72CA3@npi.stpn.soft.net> <002a01c0dee1$aef6ed80$3353d6d2@analytical> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DCF7771B6818E9AA18202D72" X-Archive-Number: 200105/181 X-Sequence-Number: 3893 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DCF7771B6818E9AA18202D72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes i tried most of the options changing shell trying the command directly but noe results. yash wrote: > This may sound absurd...but are you using the same shell. > have you tried executing xyz directly instead of ./xyz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Upendra Uniyal" > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:10 PM > Subject: [linux-delhi] cannot execute binary file > > > Hi, > > I am really surprised that one of my binary file doesnot excutes in > > linux 7 while the same gets executed in 6.2 linux. > > > > eg: > > ./xyz (xyz) is the file > > this don't execute in linux7 while the same commnd runs with linux 6.2.I > > have checked the permission and same file when copied to 6.2 runs fine , > > any tips. > > > > Upendra > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi --------------DCF7771B6818E9AA18202D72 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="upendra.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Upendra Uniyal Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="upendra.vcf" begin:vcard n:Uniyal;Upendra tel;home:C-3/221 Sec-31 Noida tel;work:Network Programs x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:upendra@npi.stpn.soft.net note:"The Most Bankrupt man In The World Is The Man Who Has Lost His Enthusiasm" fn:Upendra Uniyal end:vcard --------------DCF7771B6818E9AA18202D72-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 21:30:19 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBC14A24D for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id JAA0000029671; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:53:30 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01285; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:56:38 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:56:38 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/182 X-Sequence-Number: 3894 I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if more than half the members feel that they're worthless/a nuisance. Linux-Delhi isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: Amit> aaarrrgh ! These messages are really becoming a Amit> nuisance.... cant u ask all the members to provide a second Amit> mail address...if they have one.. so you could inform them Amit> on that address....instead of here ! I mean email addresses Amit> are mostly free....everyone could afford a spare one...u Amit> know ? :o) Amit> chao ! Amit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Amit> Mathur" To: Amit> Sent: Friday, May 18, Amit> 2001 4:38 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list Amit> subscriptions >> Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: >> >> yash_dayal@yahoo.com -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 22:38:14 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f214.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.214]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6B34A2D2 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 22:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 17 May 2001 22:34:48 -0700 Received: from 203.122.3.65 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:34:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.122.3.65] From: "nitin batra" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:34:47 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 05:34:48.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[40A16C40:01C0DF5C] X-Archive-Number: 200105/183 X-Sequence-Number: 3895 Yo i agree the messages could be sent >>/dev/null not here Nitin I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if more than half the members feel that they're worthless/a nuisance. Linux-Delhi isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) Regards, -- Raju _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu May 17 23:13:24 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF964A2E0 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id LAA0000012209; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:34:09 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02094; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:37:22 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15108.48154.935055.594733@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:37:22 +0530 (IST) To: linux-india-help@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/184 X-Sequence-Number: 3896 Hi, As some of you would be aware, I'm in the process of releasing v2.0 of VishwaKarma, a GPL web-hosting control panel. VishwaKarma works on the basis of having a set of Perl CGI scripts for performing common tasks which map into each domain (user)'s web space through directives in httpd.conf. I'm looking for a method which will allow the scripts to execute as the appropriate virtual domain user/group when executed through any domain. Apache permits User and Group directives within VirtualHost's (for use by suexec). However, since the domain owner isn't the owner of the script file, suexec barfs and rejects the script altogether. Since the scripts reside in a shared/common directory they have to have a seperate owner/group. One possibility is to comment out about 10 lines in suexec.c to disable the owner/group test, but I hope there's a better solution. Any ideas? BTW, VishwaKarma is available from http://kandalaya.org/ . All help in coding/documentation/package selection appreciated. Regards, -- Raju -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 00:10:26 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04D94A2D0 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [203.197.196.234]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9925A40968 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:29:39 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B1D122DAE7; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:38:15 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:38:15 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: New Convergence bill. plus plus Message-ID: <20010518063815.A27331@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from linuxdelhi@hotmail.com on Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:28:40AM -0000 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/185 X-Sequence-Number: 3897 On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:28:40AM -0000, nitin batra wrote: >Moron > >Open your eyes..it is the same way >IT dept can come and raid your place anytime they want >They can do the same thing to just about anyone >This is how it works But I still legaly can write my views on this list and if that bill Got passed we won't be able to have this conversation at all. > >Doesnt the govt. knows the unaccounted money >how much it exists and in what quantities >but that is how they get the power in democracy >As if they cant come and put some coke in your drawer >and come and get you..... >watch out may be they already are!!!!!! Thats is what I am saying they can screw you over anyday in the real world if they wish and they want to create the same chaos online. > >This is how it works >Democracy gives you freedom to speak >but it also gives goverment to defend the rest of population >against your subversive activities >point in case....IRS>FBI>NSA>> No man Goverment treats everyone like babies deciding for them what they can can say listen see read write. This is not democracy I say let there be freedom and let people grow up and decide for themselvs what they want to listen to and what the don't. >thats how democracy works >Take it or leave it > >I could be wrong but may be not > >No ones dismissing the article..... but u have to accept it >The wild-west days of the NET are over >WAke up...or keep zzzzzzzz Yes I know our "Happy" days of net are fading away but thats what I'm scared of. -- X windows: Form follows malfunction. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 01:32:35 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F6914A2DD for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 01:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id NAA0000002314; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:54:28 +0530 (IST) Received: (from shivjm@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01111; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:57:04 +0530 From: Shiv Jha Mathur MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:57:04 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: shiv@linux-delhi.org X-Archive-Number: 200105/186 X-Sequence-Number: 3898 You have *my* approval! :-) >>>>> "Raju" == Raju Mathur writes: Raju> I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if Raju> more than half the members feel that they're worthless/a Raju> nuisance. Linux-Delhi isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 03:29:41 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84C6F4A2F2 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 03:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 27839 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 10:27:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.134.211) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 10:27:18 -0000 Message-ID: <00a301c0dd90$ff1db520$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <15108.48154.935055.594733@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:06:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/187 X-Sequence-Number: 3899 Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: ; Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help > Hi, > > As some of you would be aware, I'm in the process of releasing v2.0 of > VishwaKarma, a GPL web-hosting control panel. VishwaKarma works on > the basis of having a set of Perl CGI scripts for performing common > tasks which map into each domain (user)'s web space through directives > in httpd.conf. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 03:29:55 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58B9F4A2F9 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 03:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28038 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 10:27:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.134.211) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 10:27:31 -0000 Message-ID: <00a501c0dd91$06aab0e0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <15108.48154.935055.594733@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re:name based virutal hosting. Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:14:37 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/188 X-Sequence-Number: 3900 hi, I wanna setup more than 1 domain with a seperate disk quota on a single IP how do i do it ? I dont wanna install Vishwakarma...bcoz my server already has a control panel that gives me other features that i dont wanna lose. Also I accept...I couldnt install Vishwakarma. HUH !!!!! So...any ideas ? anyone willing to explain me the process personally(if its not possible in mail) ? I mean adding domains to a IP..not vishkarama installation. rgds, Amit Soni. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 03:35:34 2001 Received: from inbound2.maa.sify.net (inbound2.maa.sify.net [202.144.69.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D45C4A2F8 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 03:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1929 invoked from network); 18 May 2001 10:32:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO punhani) (210.214.88.113) by inbound2.maa.sify.net with SMTP; 18 May 2001 10:32:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c0df86$378a5c00$7158d6d2@punhani> From: "ankur arora" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:07:56 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/189 X-Sequence-Number: 3901 > I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if more than > half the members feel that they're worthless/a nuisance. Linux-Delhi > isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) Hell no, I think these messages are overall a good thing. As Raju pointed out once, there's no other easy way out of this. Besides I am sure everybody who doesn't need this can always filter this out. regards, ankur From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 04:13:44 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381C14A2CC for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 04:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [203.197.196.234]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECF14124B for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 16:34:19 +0530 (IST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 158212DAE7; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:44:07 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:44:07 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Message-ID: <20010518094407.A28138@black-satan> Reply-To: pankaj@fig.org References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org>; from shiv@linux-delhi.org on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:57:04PM +0530 X-O.S: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.2.17 X-Mail-License: Copyleft under GPL version 2.0 X-Mailer: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200105/190 X-Sequence-Number: 3902 On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:57:04PM +0530, Shiv Jha Mathur wrote: >You have *my* approval! :-) Mine too. > >>>>>> "Raju" == Raju Mathur writes: > > Raju> I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if > Raju> more than half the members feel that they're worthless/a > Raju> nuisance. Linux-Delhi isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ---end quoted text--- -- X windows: Plumbing the depths of human incompetence. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 04:28:52 2001 Received: from ndf.vsnl.net.in (del6.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.9]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CEE14A2E6 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 04:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from debian (d2933.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [203.197.198.68]) by ndf.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1EA340CD for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:25:10 +0000 (IST) Received: from paimk by debian with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 150XH2-0000Aw-00; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:03:40 +0530 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:03:40 +051800 From: "M.K.Pai" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help Message-ID: <20010518050340.A657@debian.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-Archive-Number: 200105/191 X-Sequence-Number: 3903 Dear Raju, > Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? > I guess this is a good time to bring up a subject that is very close to my heart. In my opinion, far more people would embrace VK if it had mailing lists for users and developers. And of course, an "announce" mailing list would be nice. Right now, the only way anyone can do *anything* with VK is to go grepping through the source. The website is not helpful as it should be. So please, please, please, will you set up at least a users' mailing list ? Or allow someone else to do it ? It would really do wonders for VK. Regards, -- Pai From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 04:32:33 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB8B4A2E6 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 04:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net4uhi1m82mc5 (port54-17-110.adsl.win.co.nz [210.54.17.110]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA10934 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 23:35:18 +1200 Message-ID: <000f01c0df8e$ab50c040$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: References: <20010518050340.A657@debian.> Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:35:37 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2403.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2403.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/192 X-Sequence-Number: 3904 If somebody could write a decent documentation to VK it would be REALLY NICE!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "M.K.Pai" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help > Dear Raju, > > > Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? > > > > I guess this is a good time to bring up a subject that > is very close to my heart. > > In my opinion, far more people would embrace VK if it had > mailing lists for users and developers. And of course, an > "announce" mailing list would be nice. > > Right now, the only way anyone can do *anything* with VK > is to go grepping through the source. The website is not > helpful as it should be. > > So please, please, please, will you set up at least a users' > mailing list ? Or allow someone else to do it ? > It would really do wonders for VK. > > Regards, > -- Pai > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 05:34:51 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BCF84A307 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6214A175 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 00:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucky (unknown [203.197.196.234]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBD864210A for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:37:13 +0530 (IST) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 424643BF44; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:40:12 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: can we do a partitionless install for redhat7.0 References: <003401c0df06$d14f3200$605bd6d2@analytical> <000d01c0dfa8$c629c5a0$09c0c0c0@mac15> From: Supreet Sethi Date: 18 May 2001 12:40:11 +0530 In-Reply-To: <000d01c0dfa8$c629c5a0$09c0c0c0@mac15> Message-ID: <87bsorjfos.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 3 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/193 X-Sequence-Number: 3905 You can use partition magic or fips to resize partition Supreet From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 06:14:44 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C5D4A30C for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000024231; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:37:44 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01845; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:41:04 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15109.8040.227501.813076@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:41:04 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help In-Reply-To: <00a301c0dd90$ff1db520$010811ac@big> References: <15108.48154.935055.594733@mail.linux-delhi.org> <00a301c0dd90$ff1db520$010811ac@big> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/194 X-Sequence-Number: 3906 Nope, worse :-) So when do I expect the install.sh script from you? -- Raju >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: Amit> Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? crossed> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" Amit> To: Amit> ; Amit> Sent: Friday, May 18, Amit> 2001 11:37 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache Amit> suexec help >> Hi, >> >> As some of you would be aware, I'm in the process of releasing >> v2.0 of VishwaKarma, a GPL web-hosting control panel. >> VishwaKarma works on the basis of having a set of Perl CGI >> scripts for performing common tasks which map into each domain >> (user)'s web space through directives in httpd.conf. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 06:16:35 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597034A328 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000008239; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:39:23 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01856; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:42:43 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15109.8139.915491.529214@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:42:43 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <20010518094407.A28138@black-satan> References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> <20010518094407.A28138@black-satan> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/195 X-Sequence-Number: 3907 Uh, excuse me, what exactly are you guys approving? Stopping or continuing sending messages? Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Pankaj" == Pankaj Kaushal writes: Pankaj> On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:57:04PM +0530, Shiv Jha Mathur Pankaj> wrote: >> You have *my* approval! :-) Pankaj> Mine too. >> >>>>>>> "Raju" == Raju Mathur writes: >> Raju> I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if Raju> more than half the members feel that they're worthless/a Raju> nuisance. Linux-Delhi isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 06:17:57 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358954A330 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000020361; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:40:28 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01862; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:43:48 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15109.8204.656565.547969@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:43:48 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help In-Reply-To: <20010518050340.A657@debian.> References: <20010518050340.A657@debian.> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/196 X-Sequence-Number: 3908 Yes, yes and yes :-) We'll have a Mailing List Real Soon Now. Don't hold your breath, though :-) Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Pai" == M K Pai writes: Pai> Dear Raju, >> Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? >> Pai> I guess this is a good time to bring up a subject that is Pai> very close to my heart. Pai> In my opinion, far more people would embrace VK if it had Pai> mailing lists for users and developers. And of course, an Pai> "announce" mailing list would be nice. Pai> Right now, the only way anyone can do *anything* with VK is Pai> to go grepping through the source. The website is not helpful Pai> as it should be. Pai> So please, please, please, will you set up at least a users' Pai> mailing list ? Or allow someone else to do it ? Pai> It would really do wonders for VK. Pai> Regards, -- Pai -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 06:18:10 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCA14A335 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000032728; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:41:19 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01869; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:44:38 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15109.8254.839175.281545@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:44:38 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help In-Reply-To: <000f01c0df8e$ab50c040$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> References: <20010518050340.A657@debian.> <000f01c0df8e$ab50c040$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/197 X-Sequence-Number: 3909 /me looks around for somebody and grabs Sahil: you're Somebody, aren't you? :-) >>>>> "Sahil" == Sahil Gupta <- NET4U" > writes: Sahil> If somebody could write a decent documentation to VK it Sahil> would be REALLY NICE!! Sahil> [snip] -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 07:08:33 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EC3E34A325 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10751 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 14:05:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.135.132) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 14:05:47 -0000 Message-ID: <003601c0ddaf$83e51e60$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <15108.48154.935055.594733@mail.linux-delhi.org><00a301c0dd90$ff1db520$010811ac@big> <15109.8040.227501.813076@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 07:55:40 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/198 X-Sequence-Number: 3910 2 weeks from when u explain me..what is install.sh in detail. promise ! :o) BTW is this the same raju we made our president......or is it again some fake foreign cousin ? > Nope, worse :-) > So when do I expect the install.sh script from you? > -- Raju > >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: > Amit> Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" > Amit> To: > Amit> ; > Amit> Sent: Friday, May 18, > Amit> 2001 11:37 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache > Amit> suexec help > > >> Hi, > >> > >> As some of you would be aware, I'm in the process of releasing > >> v2.0 of VishwaKarma, a GPL web-hosting control panel. > >> VishwaKarma works on the basis of having a set of Perl CGI > >> scripts for performing common tasks which map into each domain > >> (user)'s web space through directives in httpd.conf. > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 07:09:57 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DAD4A334 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.qc (IDENT:root@[202.56.219.167]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4IE6aL13254 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:06:37 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:neil@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thinkpad.qc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA05683 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 19:38:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:38:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil X-Sender: neil@thinkpad.qc To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/199 X-Sequence-Number: 3911 shiv>You have *my* approval! :-) mutiny? well, i exercise my right of veto. i say no doing away with those messages. so unless everyone of u can convince me otherwise, nothing doing. Neil -- Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 07:24:08 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F0694A23F for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30645 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 14:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.135.132) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 14:21:49 -0000 Message-ID: <006001c0ddb1$c1917860$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big><15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org><15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org><20010518094407.A28138@black-satan> <15109.8139.915491.529214@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:11:43 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/200 X-Sequence-Number: 3912 But raju, didnt i sate an alternative too ? I think that should be included in the voting !! All i said was send them the suspension thing on their other email address ! and if they dont have that address...only then send it to the list. I am sure most people here have more than 1 email address...and they'll be willing to give it to you ! Am I right guys ? Its always easier to read your email that keep asking around other folks if they have seen your name in the suspension list ! rgds, Amit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > Uh, excuse me, what exactly are you guys approving? Stopping or > continuing sending messages? > > Regards, > > -- Raju > > >>>>> "Pankaj" == Pankaj Kaushal writes: > > Pankaj> On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:57:04PM +0530, Shiv Jha Mathur > Pankaj> wrote: > >> You have *my* approval! :-) > Pankaj> Mine too. > >> > >>>>>>> "Raju" == Raju Mathur writes: > >> > Raju> I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if > Raju> more than half the members feel that they're worthless/a > Raju> nuisance. Linux-Delhi isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 08:10:49 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DB8564A324 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24802 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 15:08:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.140.134) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 15:08:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c0ddb8$45953060$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <000a01c0df86$378a5c00$7158d6d2@punhani> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:20:36 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/201 X-Sequence-Number: 3913 Have u read the complete thread Mr. Ankur ? Please do so....I insist ! But ofcoz i believe in democracy too > > I'll definitely stop sending these messages to the list if more than > > half the members feel that they're worthless/a nuisance. Linux-Delhi > > isn't a dictatorship, you know? :-) > > Hell no, I think these messages are overall a good thing. As Raju pointed > out once, there's no other easy way out of this. Besides I am sure everybody > who doesn't need this can always filter this out. > > regards, > ankur From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 08:30:43 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723B34A324 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcns134.docsis188.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.188.134] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 150m9u-0004bS-00; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:27:19 -0500 Message-ID: <008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big><15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:27:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200105/202 X-Sequence-Number: 3914 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiv Jha Mathur" > You have *my* approval! :-) I knew it! Shiv Jha Mathur doesn't exist, he is just an alias created by Raj to get *two* votes in the LUG. Just because we decided not to allocate votes based on weight. Ah well. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 12:29:53 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0DBC4A306 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13523 invoked by uid 417); 18 May 2001 19:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.143.24) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 May 2001 19:27:26 -0000 Message-ID: <007701c0dddc$725858b0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big><15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> <008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:17:17 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/203 X-Sequence-Number: 3915 All part of a democracy. May be i should have tried the same stunt. But ...then...Why ?? Just to get a majority....naaahhh ! BTW which side is ur vote ?.....u arnt the type who vote on "cant say anything!!"...are u ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shiv Jha Mathur" > > > You have *my* approval! :-) > > I knew it! > > Shiv Jha Mathur doesn't exist, he is just an alias created by Raj to get > *two* votes in the LUG. Just because we decided not to allocate votes based > on weight. > > Ah well. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 13:59:23 2001 Received: from false.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.225]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B644A24D for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.71.134.40] (helo=hork) by false.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 150rGV-0003SO-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Sat, 19 May 2001 02:24:27 +0530 Message-ID: <028401c0dfdc$c6ad9e00$068547ca@hork> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 02:16:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/204 X-Sequence-Number: 3916 Yup. Please stop these suspended messages. Regards, DAX From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 14:40:01 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8062F4A235 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net4uhi1m82mc5 (port54-17-110.adsl.win.co.nz [210.54.17.110]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA11181 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:42:54 +1200 Message-ID: <001701c0dfe3$875c0960$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: References: <15108.48154.935055.594733@mail.linux-delhi.org><00a301c0dd90$ff1db520$010811ac@big> <15109.8040.227501.813076@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:43:07 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2403.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2403.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/205 X-Sequence-Number: 3917 Why don't you try to _SIMPLIFY_ things? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help > Nope, worse :-) > > So when do I expect the install.sh script from you? > > -- Raju > > >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: > > Amit> Is the installation of v2.0 better than 1.0 ? Amit> crossed> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" > Amit> To: > Amit> ; > Amit> Sent: Friday, May 18, > Amit> 2001 11:37 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache > Amit> suexec help > > >> Hi, > >> > >> As some of you would be aware, I'm in the process of releasing > >> v2.0 of VishwaKarma, a GPL web-hosting control panel. > >> VishwaKarma works on the basis of having a set of Perl CGI > >> scripts for performing common tasks which map into each domain > >> (user)'s web space through directives in httpd.conf. > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 14:42:14 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AE049EFC for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net4uhi1m82mc5 (port54-17-110.adsl.win.co.nz [210.54.17.110]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA11338 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:45:11 +1200 Message-ID: <003301c0dfe3$d8a9f0c0$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: References: <20010518050340.A657@debian.><000f01c0df8e$ab50c040$6e1136d2@net4uhi1m82mc5> <15109.8254.839175.281545@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:45:21 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2403.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2403.0000 X-Archive-Number: 200105/206 X-Sequence-Number: 3918 Yes, sure. I don't mind helping out. But, I am not an awfully skilled bloke. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 1:14 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [Kind of OT] Apache suexec help > /me looks around for somebody and grabs Sahil: you're Somebody, aren't > you? :-) > > >>>>> "Sahil" == Sahil Gupta <- NET4U" > writes: > > Sahil> If somebody could write a decent documentation to VK it > Sahil> would be REALLY NICE!! > Sahil> [snip] > > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 20:56:55 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3C64A31F for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 20:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id JAA0000015686; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:20:05 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02139; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:23:22 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15109.60977.522451.979589@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:23:21 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <006001c0ddb1$c1917860$010811ac@big> References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> <20010518094407.A28138@black-satan> <15109.8139.915491.529214@mail.linux-delhi.org> <006001c0ddb1$c1917860$010811ac@big> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/207 X-Sequence-Number: 3919 Hi Amit, I agree that being able to send messages to an alternative address would be a nice-to-have feature, but until you've managed a large mailing list you cannot understand the effort involved with keeping a parallel database of e-mail addresses. I'll pass for now. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: Amit> But raju, didnt i sate an alternative too ? I think that Amit> should be included in the voting !! Amit> All i said was send them the suspension thing on their other Amit> email address ! and if they dont have that address...only Amit> then send it to the list. I am sure most people here have Amit> more than 1 email address...and they'll be willing to give Amit> it to you ! Am I right guys ? Amit> Its always easier to read your email that keep asking around Amit> other folks if they have seen your name in the suspension Amit> list ! Amit> rgds, Amit. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 20:59:22 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D814A31F for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 20:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id JAA0000017818; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:22:37 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02152; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:25:58 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15109.61134.571616.387610@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:25:58 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> <008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/208 X-Sequence-Number: 3920 He and his sister /do/ exist, and I have the perpetual hole in my purse to prove it! ;-) Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Sanjeev" == Sanjeev Gupta writes: Sanjeev> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiv Jha Mathur" Sanjeev> >> You have *my* approval! :-) Sanjeev> I knew it! Sanjeev> Shiv Jha Mathur doesn't exist, he is just an alias Sanjeev> created by Raj to get *two* votes in the LUG. Just Sanjeev> because we decided not to allocate votes based on weight. Sanjeev> Ah well. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri May 18 23:33:24 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFBD4A359 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 23:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nayakvinod ([202.56.215.99]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GDLBE801.ILE for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 11:06:08 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c0e026$d8be40a0$63d738ca@nayakvinod> From: "Vinod Nayak" To: References: <3B03B8CB.C4D72CA3@npi.stpn.soft.net> Subject: Re: cannot execute binary file Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:05:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/209 X-Sequence-Number: 3921 Hi Upendra, You have not mentioned what error message you get when you run this program. One possible reason is runtime library which might be on 6.2 but not there on 7(may be not installed) If clear it more whether it is a C/C++-Prog or some other, a reason may be found out. 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From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 03:22:58 2001 Received: from sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (sxu1006.altaway.net [209.249.55.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024454A2B4 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 03:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ambar by sxu1006.smtp-gw.to (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA16546 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 06:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00e401c0e04d$b8210810$b8036c96@ambar> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <003401c0df06$d14f3200$605bd6d2@analytical><000d01c0dfa8$c629c5a0$09c0c0c0@mac15> <87bsorjfos.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Subject: Re: can we do a partitionless install for redhat7.0 Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:52:31 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/211 X-Sequence-Number: 3923 Hi, > You can use partition magic or fips to resize partition At least with mandrake 8.0, u can do an install on the fat32 partition using umsdos (at least this is what it used to be when i tried to install linux on fat last time around!) Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 03:33:00 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2470449F1E for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 03:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31126 invoked by uid 417); 19 May 2001 10:30:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.143.203) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 19 May 2001 10:30:44 -0000 Message-ID: <003101c0dde6$589cedf0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big><15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org><15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org><20010518094407.A28138@black-satan><15109.8139.915491.529214@mail.linux-delhi.org><006001c0ddb1$c1917860$010811ac@big> <15109.60977.522451.979589@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:28:10 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/212 X-Sequence-Number: 3924 I am willing to make a kaam chalaaoo s/w for that. :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > Hi Amit, > > I agree that being able to send messages to an alternative address > would be a nice-to-have feature, but until you've managed a large > mailing list you cannot understand the effort involved with keeping a > parallel database of e-mail addresses. I'll pass for now. > > Regards, > > -- Raju > > >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: > > Amit> But raju, didnt i sate an alternative too ? I think that > Amit> should be included in the voting !! > > Amit> All i said was send them the suspension thing on their other > Amit> email address ! and if they dont have that address...only > Amit> then send it to the list. I am sure most people here have > Amit> more than 1 email address...and they'll be willing to give > Amit> it to you ! Am I right guys ? > > Amit> Its always easier to read your email that keep asking around > Amit> other folks if they have seen your name in the suspension > Amit> list ! > > Amit> rgds, Amit. > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 04:27:43 2001 Received: from inbound2.maa.sify.net (inbound2.maa.sify.net [202.144.69.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CEDA4A172 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 04:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5863 invoked from network); 19 May 2001 11:24:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO punhani) (210.214.90.30) by inbound2.maa.sify.net with SMTP; 19 May 2001 11:24:05 -0000 Message-ID: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani> From: "ankur arora" To: Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:52:58 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/213 X-Sequence-Number: 3925 On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:20:36AM +0530, Amit Soni wrote: > Have u read the complete thread Mr. Ankur ? > Please do so....I insist ! eyes> > But ofcoz i believe in democracy too ankur> > Now, now kid don't get offensive. I wouldn't want to get into a flame war with some kid who doesn't know how to filter out an email. ankur > > Hell no, I think these messages are overall a good thing. As Raju pointed > > out once, there's no other easy way out of this. Besides I am sure > everybody > > who doesn't need this can always filter this out. > > > > regards, > > ankur From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 04:27:47 2001 Received: from inbound2.maa.sify.net (inbound2.maa.sify.net [202.144.69.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8019D4A16E for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 04:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5998 invoked from network); 19 May 2001 11:24:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO punhani) (210.214.90.30) by inbound2.maa.sify.net with SMTP; 19 May 2001 11:24:15 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c0e056$a93e1000$1e5ad6d2@punhani> From: "ankur arora" To: Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:54:09 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/214 X-Sequence-Number: 3926 On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:11:43AM +0530, Amit Soni wrote: > But raju, didnt i sate an alternative too ? > I think that should be included in the voting !! > > All i said was send them the suspension thing on their other email address! > and if they dont have that address...only then send it to the list. > I am sure most people here have more than 1 email address...and they'll be > willing to give it to you ! > Am I right guys ? > > Its always easier to read your email that keep asking around other folks if > they have seen your name in the suspension list ! FYI the list gets archived at lists.linux-india.org. So you can search there as well. ankur From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 09:52:57 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BF449F2F for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mcns134.docsis188.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.188.134] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1519uz-0006WS-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 11:49:29 -0500 Message-ID: <008d01c0e083$aea23ee0$86bc9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big><15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org><15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org><008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> <15109.61134.571616.387610@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:48:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200105/215 X-Sequence-Number: 3927 Raj, The sister being the "fictional" one from US, who sent the mail about MS closing us down? And wait a minute, aren't you the Treasurer for LUGS? So the hole is in ... And seriously, for what its worth: I see little alternative to sending out the "suspend" messages. Perhaps people offering suggestions should manage a list for some time? The sheer administrative headache is, well, a headache. -- Sanjeev "Now that I have antagonised all sides, will be in Delhi a week from now" Gupta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" > He and his sister /do/ exist, and I have the perpetual hole in my > purse to prove it! ;-) > > Regards, > > -- Raju > > >>>>> "Sanjeev" == Sanjeev Gupta writes: > > Sanjeev> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiv Jha Mathur" > Sanjeev> > > >> You have *my* approval! :-) > > Sanjeev> I knew it! > > Sanjeev> Shiv Jha Mathur doesn't exist, he is just an alias > Sanjeev> created by Raj to get *two* votes in the LUG. Just > Sanjeev> because we decided not to allocate votes based on weight. > > Sanjeev> Ah well. > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 10:26:02 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBA64A073 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 10:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.qc (IDENT:root@[202.56.218.76]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4JHMY728116 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 13:22:35 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:neil@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thinkpad.qc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA09768 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:54:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:54:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil X-Sender: neil@thinkpad.qc To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <008d01c0e083$aea23ee0$86bc9cca@fluff> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/216 X-Sequence-Number: 3928 ghane>The sister being the "fictional" one from US, who sent the mail about MS ghane>closing us down? And wait a minute, aren't you the Treasurer for LUGS? So ghane>the hole is in ... hmm... ghane, what were u doing when u wrote this mail? it seems that ur brain was on holiday. raj spoke about shiv andhis sister(whom i didnot know exhisted until now) i think(unless my brains have taken leave of me) as for my siter, she wasnot from the US but from the UK.(haha!) one important thing. too much work and no play makes "jack"(and dont pin me for the name..) a dull boy. ghane>-- Sanjeev "Now that I have antagonised all sides, will be in Delhi a week ghane>from now" Gupta hmm... time for dhamaal already? Neil -- Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 10:54:14 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8164A215 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 10:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id XAA0000018889; Sat, 19 May 2001 23:17:14 +0530 (IST) Received: (from shivjm@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01229; Sat, 19 May 2001 23:20:16 +0530 From: Shiv Jha Mathur MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15110.45656.174905.952408@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:20:16 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org> <07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big> <15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org> <15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org> <008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: shiv@linux-delhi.org X-Archive-Number: 200105/217 X-Sequence-Number: 3929 Thanks. :-) -- Shiv JM >>>>> "Sanjeev" == Sanjeev Gupta writes: Sanjeev> I knew it! Sanjeev> Shiv Jha Mathur doesn't exist, he is just an alias Sanjeev> created by Raj to get *two* votes in the LUG. Just Sanjeev> because we decided not to allocate votes based on weight. Sanjeev> Ah well. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 18:13:13 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD0F24A1D1 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 18:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10342 invoked by uid 417); 20 May 2001 01:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.134.7) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 20 May 2001 01:10:55 -0000 Message-ID: <009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:27:51 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/218 X-Sequence-Number: 3930 ----- Original Message ----- From: "ankur arora" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:20:36AM +0530, Amit Soni wrote: > > Have u read the complete thread Mr. Ankur ? > > Please do so....I insist ! > eyes> > > But ofcoz i believe in democracy too > ankur> > > > Now, now kid don't get offensive. I wouldn't want to get > into a flame war with some kid who doesn't know how to filter > out an email. > ankur I wasnt offensive. PERIOD. It was a reflex action of a rude statement of an **OLD** man. look old man, It not about just me....lets see..how many ppl..on this list know about this filter thing. and how many are accessing this list from a windows client(outlook exp). If your age permitted you to learn small tricks of the trade, doesnt mean everyone..is as **OLD** and experienced as you. I dont say I dont wanna learn or dont respect wat u have learnt. But I learn them my way. And filtering could be considered another alternative...It doesnt mean I will do wat u tell me, and me being the "kid" i am not allowed to suggest another and perhaps the better way. I just put forward a suggestion and u throw my viewpoint out of the window..without even reading what i said... Its not just a flame war. grow up old man. aaah...or was that ur line ? chao ! Amit. An old man's words arent pearls of wisdom.....unless they are actually wise. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 18:16:50 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E36D4A1E8 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 18:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 13371 invoked by uid 417); 20 May 2001 01:14:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.134.7) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 20 May 2001 01:14:34 -0000 Message-ID: <00a601c0de19$b328fb50$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200105171738.XAA02026@mail.linux-delhi.org><07f701c0dd67$769b40b0$010811ac@big><15108.42110.71097.733568@mail.linux-delhi.org><15108.56536.285164.545597@mail.linux-delhi.org><008201c0dfaf$06ab89f0$86bc9cca@fluff> <15109.61134.571616.387610@mail.linux-delhi.org> <008d01c0e083$aea23ee0$86bc9cca@fluff> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:35:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/219 X-Sequence-Number: 3931 Alright, I have understood whats its all about. You'll never see another suggestion from me. I sincerely apologize for making a suggestion for the improvment in the list. SORRY !! Holy cows !...India is India afterall. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > Raj, > > The sister being the "fictional" one from US, who sent the mail about MS > closing us down? And wait a minute, aren't you the Treasurer for LUGS? So > the hole is in ... > > And seriously, for what its worth: I see little alternative to sending out > the "suspend" messages. Perhaps people offering suggestions should manage a > list for some time? The sheer administrative headache is, well, a headache. > > -- Sanjeev "Now that I have antagonised all sides, will be in Delhi a week > from now" Gupta > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raju Mathur" > > > He and his sister /do/ exist, and I have the perpetual hole in my > > purse to prove it! ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > -- Raju > > > > >>>>> "Sanjeev" == Sanjeev Gupta writes: > > > > Sanjeev> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiv Jha Mathur" > > Sanjeev> > > > > >> You have *my* approval! :-) > > > > Sanjeev> I knew it! > > > > Sanjeev> Shiv Jha Mathur doesn't exist, he is just an alias > > Sanjeev> created by Raj to get *two* votes in the LUG. Just > > Sanjeev> because we decided not to allocate votes based on weight. > > > > Sanjeev> Ah well. > > -- > > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 21:35:54 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAE24A1E8 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 21:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id JAA0000023503; Sun, 20 May 2001 09:58:59 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01591; Sun, 20 May 2001 10:02:18 +0530 Message-Id: <200105200432.KAA01591@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sun May 20 10:02:18 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200105/220 X-Sequence-Number: 3932 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: ananthm@indiatimes.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat May 19 21:47:19 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808FA4A1E8 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 21:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vaishali.intelesoftech.com (unknown [203.115.101.133]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8440A49F2F for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 12:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intelesoftech.com (IDENT:atul@vaishali.intelesoftech.com [127.0.0.1]) by vaishali.intelesoftech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4JJKSr08418 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 00:50:28 +0530 Message-ID: <3B06C775.CED6EDAB@intelesoftech.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:50:21 +0530 From: "Atul Kumar Singh." Organization: Intelesoft Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: how to setup mailing list Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms9D74B0638A3B5EE17128A402" X-Archive-Number: 200105/221 X-Sequence-Number: 3933 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms9D74B0638A3B5EE17128A402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I setup a List server in linux where users can subscribe to existing lists and create new lists. 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Anyway, opinion seems about even for and against sending the ADMIN messages to the list, so I'll continue for the time being. There're not that many of them, anyway, are there? Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: Amit> Alright, I have understood whats its all about. You'll Amit> never see another suggestion from me. Amit> I sincerely apologize for making a suggestion for the Amit> improvment in the list. SORRY !! Amit> [snip] -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 00:33:59 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f142.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.142]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3984A164 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 00:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 20 May 2001 00:30:33 -0700 Received: from 203.122.3.65 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 May 2001 07:30:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.122.3.65] From: "nitin batra" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 07:30:31 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2001 07:30:33.0164 (UTC) FILETIME=[C10E78C0:01C0E0FE] X-Archive-Number: 200105/223 X-Sequence-Number: 3935 ANyways the whole idea generated some good traffic and i can see the messages generating a lot more in future The more the traffic the better!!isnt for the benefit of the people who get it late what exactly is the so beneficial about the messages!!! why does everyone else needs to know about the suspended mail addresses Nitin >From: Raju Mathur >Reply-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org >To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org >Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions >Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 10:23:42 +0530 (IST) > >Umm, the objective of my posting wasn't to start a flame war and raise >hackles all around. Anyway, opinion seems about even for and against >sending the ADMIN messages to the list, so I'll continue for the time >being. There're not that many of them, anyway, are there? > >Regards, > >-- Raju > > >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: > > Amit> Alright, I have understood whats its all about. You'll > Amit> never see another suggestion from me. > > Amit> I sincerely apologize for making a suggestion for the > Amit> improvment in the list. SORRY !! > > Amit> [snip] >-- >Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 05:20:17 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1DC4A192 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 05:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from punhani (unknown [202.54.108.187]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (Postfix) with SMTP id E277B3EFEC; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:47:04 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> From: "ankur arora" To: References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani> <009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/224 X-Sequence-Number: 3936 > > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:20:36AM +0530, Amit Soni wrote: > > > Have u read the complete thread Mr. Ankur ? > > > Please do so....I insist ! ankurs > > > eyes> > > > But ofcoz i believe in democracy too > > ankur> > > > > > Now, now kid don't get offensive. I wouldn't want to get > > into a flame war with some kid who doesn't know how to filter > > out an email. > > ankur > > I wasnt offensive. PERIOD. Well, then reread your mail up there. And reread till you are convinced otherwise. > It was a reflex action of a rude statement of an **OLD** man. What rude statement? Would you mind explaining what made my statement rude? And from an old man? I am twenty by the way, probably younger than you are. And kid, I wasn't talking about age, it was and still is about your mental level as is visible from what you wrote above. So that makes you `old'. And a kid as well. That sure doesn't sound an oxymoron anymore. > > look old man, It not about just me....lets see..how many ppl..on this list > know about this filter thing. Don't make *this filter thing* sound like something personal. I threw it as a general suggestion. So if you want to use it, please do. If you don't, don't. > and how many are accessing this list from a windows client(outlook exp). OE is not so f**cked up that it doesn't allow you to filter a message, for God's sake. Message Rules. Tools menu. > If your age permitted you to learn small tricks of the trade, > doesnt mean everyone..is as **OLD** and experienced as you. See above. > I dont say I dont wanna learn or dont respect wat u have learnt. But I learn > them my way. > > And filtering could be considered another alternative...It doesnt mean I > will do wat u tell me, Don't. Did I ask you to. I threw it out as a general suggestion and nowhere did I keep ranting whether it's a better suggestion or not, or the gates to heaven will open for you if you use it. > and me being the "kid" i am not allowed to suggest another and perhaps the > better way. Well better is just what it wasn't. Anyway what in hell are you cribbing about. We have had a longish thread discussing the issue. Who bloody stopped you from putting forth your *better* way. > I just put forward a suggestion and u throw my viewpoint out of the > window..without even reading what i said... Sob...sob. Did I now ? So sorry. I hurt your poor heart. By the way, I did read your mail, gave it due consideration, and felt it wasn't feasible enough. > > Its not just a flame war. Look, one piece of advice. Why don't you keep your fingers where they would be at home. And that place, as I'm sure they are well aware, is up yours. > > grow up old man. aaah...or was that ur line ? > > chao ! > Amit. > > An old man's words arent pearls of wisdom.....unless they are actually wise. When your IQ rises to 30, sell. -- from the fortune files ankur From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 08:21:23 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FB34A072 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 08:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mantraonline.com ([203.145.130.184]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GDNX6U02.P05 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 20:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3B07EDA2.B1192206@mantraonline.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 21:45:31 +0530 From: caber X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani> <009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big> <005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/225 X-Sequence-Number: 3937 Wow, this IS interesting. ankur arora wrote: > > > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:20:36AM +0530, Amit Soni wrote: > > > > Have u read the complete thread Mr. Ankur ? > > > > Please do so....I insist ! > ankurs > > > > eyes> > > > > But ofcoz i believe in democracy too > > > ankur> > > > > > > > Now, now kid don't get offensive. I wouldn't want to get > > > into a flame war with some kid who doesn't know how to filter > > > out an email. > > > ankur > > > > I wasnt offensive. PERIOD. > Well, then reread your mail up there. And reread till you are > convinced otherwise. > > > It was a reflex action of a rude statement of an **OLD** man. > What rude statement? Would you mind explaining what made > my statement rude? > And from an old man? I am twenty by the way, probably > younger than you are. And kid, I wasn't talking about age, > it was and still is about your mental level as is visible from > what you wrote above. So that makes you `old'. And a kid as well. > That sure doesn't sound an oxymoron anymore. > > > > > look old man, It not about just me....lets see..how many ppl..on this list > > know about this filter thing. > Don't make *this filter thing* sound like something personal. I > threw it as a general suggestion. So if you want to use it, please do. > If you don't, don't. > > > and how many are accessing this list from a windows client(outlook exp). > OE is not so f**cked up that it doesn't allow you to filter a message, > for God's sake. Message Rules. Tools menu. > > > If your age permitted you to learn small tricks of the trade, > > doesnt mean everyone..is as **OLD** and experienced as you. > See above. > > > I dont say I dont wanna learn or dont respect wat u have learnt. But I > learn > > them my way. > > > > And filtering could be considered another alternative...It doesnt mean I > > will do wat u tell me, > Don't. Did I ask you to. I threw it out as a general suggestion > and nowhere did I keep ranting whether it's a better > suggestion or not, or the gates to heaven will open for you if > you use it. > > > and me being the "kid" i am not allowed to suggest another and perhaps the > > better way. > Well better is just what it wasn't. Anyway what in hell are you cribbing > about. We have had a longish thread discussing the issue. Who bloody > stopped you from putting forth your *better* way. > > > I just put forward a suggestion and u throw my viewpoint out of the > > window..without even reading what i said... > Sob...sob. Did I now ? So sorry. I hurt your poor heart. > By the way, I did read your mail, gave it due > consideration, and felt it wasn't feasible enough. > > > > > Its not just a flame war. > Look, one piece of advice. Why don't you keep your fingers > where they would be at home. > And that place, as I'm sure they are well aware, is up yours. > > > > > grow up old man. aaah...or was that ur line ? > > > > chao ! > > Amit. > > > > An old man's words arent pearls of wisdom.....unless they are actually > wise. > When your IQ rises to 30, sell. > -- from the fortune files > > ankur > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 10:10:43 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7B14A141 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 10:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id WAA0000032531; Sun, 20 May 2001 22:33:43 +0530 (IST) Received: (from shivjm@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01261; Sun, 20 May 2001 22:36:57 +0530 From: Shiv Jha Mathur MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15111.63921.150001.477308@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:36:57 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani> <009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big> <005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: shiv@linux-delhi.org X-Archive-Number: 200105/226 X-Sequence-Number: 3938 I hate to butt in, butt... DOES THIS REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE LIST? TAKE IT OFFLINE, MR.'s AMIT AND ANKUR! Um... thanks? -- Shiv JM From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 11:23:12 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5574A141 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 11:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id XAA0000017205; Sun, 20 May 2001 23:46:15 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01789; Sun, 20 May 2001 23:49:37 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15112.2744.985592.611226@mail.linux-delhi.org> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:49:36 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani> <009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big> <005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/227 X-Sequence-Number: 3939 Please take the rest of the war off-list, folks. I'll sell tickets at the gate and give you 50% of the proceeds if you like. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "ankur" == ankur arora writes: ankur> [lots of snippage occurred here] -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 15:04:43 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6910C4A178 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 15:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 31915 invoked by uid 417); 20 May 2001 22:02:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.142.135) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 20 May 2001 22:02:27 -0000 Message-ID: <02f501c0de79$30b7b9d0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani><009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big><005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> <15111.63921.150001.477308@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 07:48:48 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/228 X-Sequence-Number: 3940 LOL ! Someone was right...There aint no SJM in DLUG. ok i'll drop the thread ! IAC... I dont wanna wrestle with a pig, we both get dirty and the pig likes it !! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shiv Jha Mathur" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > I hate to butt in, butt... > DOES THIS REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE LIST? TAKE IT > OFFLINE, MR.'s AMIT AND ANKUR! > > Um... thanks? > > -- Shiv JM > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 15:06:41 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A21264A26B for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 1505 invoked by uid 417); 20 May 2001 22:04:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.142.135) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 20 May 2001 22:04:29 -0000 Message-ID: <02fb01c0de79$796587c0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <002e01c0e056$a338ecc0$1e5ad6d2@punhani><009d01c0de19$30baefc0$010811ac@big><005001c0e127$28705b00$bb6c36ca@punhani> <15112.2744.985592.611226@mail.linux-delhi.org> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:01:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/229 X-Sequence-Number: 3941 huh ! no one lets u even WAR in peace these days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions > Please take the rest of the war off-list, folks. I'll sell tickets at > the gate and give you 50% of the proceeds if you like. > Regards, > -- Raju From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun May 20 21:49:37 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFCB4A16E for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 21:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thinkpad.qc (IDENT:root@[203.145.147.164]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4L4k4718215 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 00:46:05 -0400 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:neil@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thinkpad.qc (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00961 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:18:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:18:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Neil X-Sender: neil@thinkpad.qc To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions In-Reply-To: <15111.63921.150001.477308@mail.linux-delhi.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200105/230 X-Sequence-Number: 3942 shiv>I hate to butt in, butt... owe. be careful. ur butt just got me in the face... owe owe owe. shiv>DOES THIS REALLY HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE LIST? TAKE IT shiv>OFFLINE, MR.'s AMIT AND ANKUR! anyone else notice or is it only me. shiv is more like ihs father than most of us think.like father like son.... hmm.. Neil -- Ignorance is bliss.. u know that dont you? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 00:34:18 2001 Received: from false.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.225]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0554D49F1E for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 00:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [202.71.133.23] (helo=node5) by false.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 151k7z-0006r4-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:59:19 +0530 Message-ID: <000d01c0e1c8$ffa3af40$01a8a8c0@node5> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: Subject: Re: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:08:13 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/231 X-Sequence-Number: 3943 Looks like Delhi LUG had a lot of time on their hands to indulge in this war. Except for the wasted bandwidth ... pow wows are a part of life and speak of the aggresive nature of Delhi's Roads. Raju .. please allow one war a month ;-) Sunil Dhaka From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 08:21:02 2001 Received: from nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.28]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 602C64A164 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29844 invoked by uid 60001); 21 May 2001 15:17:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.28 by nwcst283 for [202.54.100.242] via web-mailer(34FM.0700.17C.01) on Mon May 21 15:17:29 GMT 2001 Date: 21 May 2001 09:17:29 MDT From: Vivek khurana To: Linux Delhi Subject: This list SUCKS X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34FM.0700.17C.01) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200105/232 X-Sequence-Number: 3944 Hi:-) This list sucks man, most of messages you receive are flame wars, people acting like kids and making irresponsible remarks on others. What is the problem with u people can't u even refrain from flaming several time you people act like a herd of oxymorons who just belive in wasting bandwidth. I can't understand why we could not discuss something in a proper fashion and respect each other.We have joined this list for solving our and oters problems regarding linux but 7 out of 10 messages (just an approximation)on this list are flames. Pepole this mailing list has a goal called linux and = all of us should keep this our mind. So i request you people can you all stop flaming and sending irresponsible statements, it not only wastes bandwidth but also sends wrong signals abut = the credibility of this list. Bye Vivek=20=20 Please do a favour to world :- DON'T WASTE BANDWIDTH ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 09:54:09 2001 Received: from damum1.now-india.net.in (unknown [203.195.158.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BAD4A021 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.195.134.180]) by damum1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id GDPI5E06.50Y for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:22:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 1185 invoked by uid 500); 21 May 2001 16:57:44 -0000 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:27:44 +0530 From: Sandip Bhattacharya To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: This list SUCKS Message-ID: <20010521222744.C706@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i In-Reply-To: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net>; from vivekkhurana_in@usa.net on Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:17:29AM -0600 X-HomePage: http://www.sandipb.net X-OS: Linux kajaal.home 2.4.4 i586 unknown X-Archive-Number: 200105/233 X-Sequence-Number: 3945 When you join a list on a chaotic environment like Internet, and a chaotic field like Open Source, there are a couple of things you got to keep in mind : 1. This is an unmoderated list. Good in a way , bad in a way. Good because you can air your opinions in a free way, ...bad when you go overboard with your emotions. Just as people hate flame wars, so do they hate mails with subjects like "This list sucks" or "This movement sucks". 2. People who have spent enough time on the Net know how to conserve bandwidth in even these circumstances. You would either be using webmail, paying by the minute or using a cheaper method via a dialup. In the first case you have the option of deleting the whole thread when a discussion goes haywire without deleting it. In the second method, I hardly think you lose a lot of money downloading your POP mails. You can still save mental peace by deleting these mails from the inbox w/o reading them. 3. Tempers and flame wars are better tackled by SILENCE rather than rebukes. If people on the list don't like a thread they can /ignore/ it. You can kill a bad thread in a more amicable way by /not/ participating in it and not provoking it by statements like "you #$#$% flamers!!!". 4. It sends a better message to newcomers when people /don't/ kill threads by shouting them down. This makes them easier to come out with their views without anybody to rebuke them. This list is for helping out people ... let's keep it that way. 5. It is a free world. Nobody is forced to join this list. If you feel that this list is not solving the purpose that you joined in here for, you are welcome to put in your suggestions amicably or ... leave the list. Thanks, Sandip -- ------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb @ bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net ------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 10:00:26 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90F4E4A021 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 26353 invoked by uid 417); 21 May 2001 16:58:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO big) (203.195.140.101) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 21 May 2001 16:58:08 -0000 Message-ID: <00cc01c0e1ef$c6cab2a0$010811ac@big> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net> Subject: Re: This list DOESNT SUCK Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:41:25 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200105/234 X-Sequence-Number: 3946 Hey c'mon pal ! When real men argue on real subject...agreements and disagreements are bound to happen. And btw when we can tolerate suspension messages, commercial mails, surdy virus jokes , poems etc.... why not a few flame wars.....its all a part of the game !...isnt it ? 90% of indian net users are on the net for porn, isnt that a bandwidth wastage ?...ahem...ok..well may be not... I cant think of a good example right now...but what the heck ! chao ! Amit. ICQ : 29830583(Nick : WARGASM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vivek khurana" To: "Linux Delhi" Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:47 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] This list SUCKS Hi:-) This list sucks man, most of messages you receive are flame wars, people acting like kids and making irresponsible remarks on others. What is the problem with u people can't u even refrain from flaming several time you people act like a herd of oxymorons who just belive in wasting bandwidth. I can't understand why we could not discuss something in a proper fashion and respect each other.We have joined this list for solving our and oters problems regarding linux but 7 out of 10 messages (just an approximation)on this list are flames. Pepole this mailing list has a goal called linux and all of us should keep this our mind. So i request you people can you all stop flaming and sending irresponsible statements, it not only wastes bandwidth but also sends wrong signals abut the credibility of this list. Bye Vivek Please do a favour to world :- DON'T WASTE BANDWIDTH ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------------------------ The mailing list archives are available at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 10:17:00 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [203.195.142.18]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F25849F42 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4LHTXb02735; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:59:33 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: This list SUCKS References: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 21 May 2001 22:59:32 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200105/235 X-Sequence-Number: 3947 >>>>> "Vivek" == Vivek khurana writes: Vivek> Hi:-) This list sucks man, most of messages you receive are Vivek> flame wars, people acting like kids and making Vivek> irresponsible remarks on others. What is the problem with Vivek> u people can't u even refrain from flaming several time you [snipped] Vivek, I'll suggest that you subscribe to linux-delhi (or any other mailing list for that matter), on a POP address. Even Yahoo! provides one for free, so getting one is not an issue. Then get youself a decent mailer. I am a member of about 10 mailing lists, get more than 200 messages per day (all small messages), and using mail sorters and threading, end up reading only what I have to. I agree that checking your web mail and finding useless messages in it is indeed a PITA. Loki -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 11:41:50 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (unknown [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65FBF4A0BC for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17378 invoked by uid 417); 21 May 2001 18:39:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO leo) (203.195.130.123) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 21 May 2001 18:39:38 -0000 From: "Vikrant Shokeen" To: "Linux Delhi" Subject: Help required regarding Debian Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:58:38 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200105/236 X-Sequence-Number: 3948 Hi all, After hearing to all you Debian Enthusiasts ('bout how great it is) I decided to give it a try. before installing the same I downloaded a file debian-guide-all.deb from the Debian site(it contains the installation and user's guide). As the name suggests this ought to be a Debian file. how can I read this file(before installing Debian)? I have RHL 7.0 installed on my box. another question is that how can I install Debian along with RHL with both sharing same swap space. thanks in advance. Vikrant - knowledge is a treasure which follows its owner everywhere. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 21:57:21 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FFB149F04 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 21:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8388 invoked by uid 417); 22 May 2001 04:55:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdi) (203.200.76.21) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 22 May 2001 04:55:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c0e27b$2c6ba200$6e1a11ac@virdi> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: Subject: Netscape 6 rpm Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:23:37 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200105/237 X-Sequence-Number: 3949 i want to install netscape 6, i ahve the tar.gz file.. can anyone tell where to find netscape rpm or install it from the tar.gz file (detailed steps with commands would b helpful) thanx -js From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 22:01:57 2001 Received: from pluto.runbox.com (pluto.runbox.com [193.71.199.39]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F102D4A260 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [61.0.112.134] (helo=sunil) by pluto.runbox.com with smtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 1524Ex-0005n6-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:57:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01c0e27b$b9798ea0$0bdedede@sunil> From: "Sunil" To: References: <20010521151729.29843.qmail@nwcst283.netaddress.usa.net> <00cc01c0e1ef$c6cab2a0$010811ac@big> Subject: fetching external mail to local LAN Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:27:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200105/238 X-Sequence-Number: 3950 Hi All, I want to use linux to connect to inertnet. I am using kppp dialer for dailing (through simple dial up connection )but after authentication from peer server suddenly pppd dies saying error no 10 (means the ppp negotiation failed ie it didnt reach the point where at least one network protocol was running). Let me brief my requirements. I have to configure our linux redhat 6.2 box as mail server for our small LAN and for incoming and outgoing mail. Our ISP has provided mail ids to us. So I have to fetch mail from the ISP pop3 server adn deliver here similarly send outgoing mails using smtp server of our ISP. Our inetnet connection was through Windows NT using 64 k ISDN line. so I have to either use linux mail server then I think SMTP / pop proxy on windows for giving the the smtp seever add in fetchmailconf at reqd place or to use ( at present) dialup on linux to connect to ineternet and giving the local smtp server name in fetchmail conf. Igot succes to use sendmail for local lan deleveries but no success for ougoing mails and incoming mail from our ISP pop3 server. Any help is highly appreciated. Thanks, Sunil Parolia From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 22:50:26 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes3.whowhere.com [209.185.123.188]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E125E4A141 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Mon May 21 22:46:51 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:16:51 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: fetching external mail to local LAN X-Sender-Ip: 202.54.96.250 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 701 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/239 X-Sequence-Number: 3951 hi i have a problrm.i want to know whether a program is using a particular port ot not from command like without using nmap(in any way). actually i m sending live streaming (from a NT mc using real encoder) to a real server running on linux. the problem is that some times there is an error on encoder side ,it stop working giving error "could not conect to server" , but the server program rmserver keeps running and we can see the static videos on site but no live.can any one tell me that how can i find when encoder stop(i mean how can i see on server side that the encoder is not working). manish Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon May 21 22:58:14 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes3.whowhere.com [209.185.123.188]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E0ED4A141 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Mon May 21 22:54:36 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:24:36 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: real server encoder problem X-Sender-Ip: 202.54.96.250 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 1009 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200105/240 X-Sequence-Number: 3952 sorry sunil i forgor to change subject earlier >hi > i have a problrm.i want to know whether a program is using a particular port ot not from command like without using nmap(in any way). > actually i m sending live streaming (from a NT mc using real encoder) to a real server running on linux. the problem is that some times