From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 01:18:03 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A47A4A263 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:18:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.150.47] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.150.47]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f219BvR25613 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:11:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:16:11 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: Linux Users Group Delhi Subject: Re: Tha Gnoo publeek lie-sense ;) Re: news/nntp In-Reply-To: <20010301002521.A1313@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/1 X-Sequence-Number: 2177 > > > And, Like pine tin is not Free software > > haa??? what are u saying???? > > pinku gone mad??? > > No. He is perfectly sane. What he means is that tin doesn't have > the GNU tag in it. And any thing which doesn't have a GNU tag is *evil*. for a person to agree to that... hes gotta be stupid. as stupid as going in 4 proprietary s/w ... as it does the same thing... "its me or no one" GNU too has a long way to go before it becomes truly "revolutionary" for what it is now is just "a different evil". tin releases its code.. and that shud be enuf for us to accept it. > Also notice the capital F in "Free". > "Free" as many other words is another perfectly sensible english > term hijacked by the GNU cartel, and given proprietary connotations. :-P i hereby restrict the use uf "a**" to "my a**". any use of it will result in serious legal action. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 04:22:51 2001 Received: from mantramail.com (n2z.mantramail.com [202.56.230.130]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD79849F02 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2923 invoked by uid 502); 1 Mar 2001 12:06:38 -0000 Message-ID: <983448398.983448398@mantramail.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Linux; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by mantraonline.com) Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:36:38 From: "Yashpal Nagar" Subject: where can i get Debian in Delhi ? To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/2 X-Sequence-Number: 2178 Hi ! Can someone please tell me form where in Delhi can i have the Debian latest dist. and how much is the cost for CD. Manish also mail some one for this but that guy did't respond back. Regards-- Yashpal Nagar From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 04:42:37 2001 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C91D64A274 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:42:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27522 invoked by uid 0); 1 Mar 2001 12:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gmx.net) (202.141.69.50) by mail.gmx.net (mp010-rz3) with SMTP; 1 Mar 2001 12:36:30 -0000 Message-ID: <3A9E424C.64D002DE@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:06:28 +0530 From: Vivek Malik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-SGI_XFS_PR i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: where can i get Debian in Delhi ? References: <983448398.983448398@mantramail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/3 X-Sequence-Number: 2179 you can download the disc from ftp.iitkm.ac.in using the make-debian-cd script available from cdrom.debian.org OR you can catch me at SD-7 Kumaon Hostel, IIT Delhi, Hauz Khas and collect the latest version from me with an assurance that i will get back my cd's safely. Yashpal Nagar wrote: > > Hi ! > Can someone please tell me form where in Delhi > can i have the Debian latest dist. and how much is the > cost for CD. Manish also mail some one for this > but that guy did't respond back. > > Regards-- > > Yashpal Nagar > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 04:49:04 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947D94A31E for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns77.docsis190.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.190.77] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14YSPh-0005XU-00; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:42:44 -0600 Message-ID: <002b01c0a24d$10dbddc0$4dbe9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: , "Linux Users Group Delhi" References: Subject: Re: Tha Gnoo publeek lie-sense ;) Re: news/nntp Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:42:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/4 X-Sequence-Number: 2180 From: "neil" > i hereby restrict the use uf "a**" to "my a**". any use of it will result > in serious legal action. Wait a minute. It has been some time since I attended an ILUG-D meet, but don't tell me Neil's "a**" is now a subject of licencing? ;-))))))))) -- Sanjeev "No, this is a family list" Gupta From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 06:48:36 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D49C4A4AE for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:48:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5034A00A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 02:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lucky (d306.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [202.54.14.6]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA03556 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:39:05 -0500 (GMT) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2E3A3B090; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:41:11 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Sarai and Arun Mehta at linux-delhi meet References: <20010227.9483900@saumya.sarai.kit> From: Supreet Sethi Date: 01 Mar 2001 15:41:11 +0530 In-Reply-To: <20010227.9483900@saumya.sarai.kit> Message-ID: <87u25dkdds.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 14 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/5 X-Sequence-Number: 2181 Arun Mehta is a Telecommunication engineer and internet activist. He is also the CTO in a company called Radiophony, which has been asked by Stephen Hawking to develop a speech synthesizer for him -- his old one is DOS-based, and far from state of the art. They are not getting paid for this, but see a possibility for getting some funding at the right time. Not only would it be an honour to help this great man in any way, but the software could be useful to people with a variety of disabilities. We of course want this to be open-source, and would like to develop this on SourceForge. Would Linux group be interested in collaborating in this? Both Arun Mehta and Sarai are unhappy with the situation we find ourselves in, in which the IT domain is limited to the elites. The Socy. for Telecom Empowerment(which Arun heads) is working on a proposal with the Salaam Balak Trust to set up a training institute for street children in IT. During the open software panel discussion at the Sarai Opening, Arun had asked if the Linux-delhi group would help develop a training course for the NIIT/Aptech style of semi-literate graduates (no offence meant here to those coming from those institutes, but I suspect that those who did become accomplished programmers out of their alumni learnt most of what they know by themselves). This course should be based not on the traditional, hierarchical system of teaching, but on cooperative learning in the Linux pattern. Perhaps such an intensive course for training programmers could also take in those of the street children which our basic course identifies as having a particular bent towards programming. We are alos interested in a study of law as it is applied in Indian cyberspace or IT professionals, and what might be done to improve the situation. Arun Mehta would like to come and present his idea at the Linux-delhi meeting on Sunday. Three members from the Sarai team will also like to attend.Any responses to these proposals are welcome. Please post them to dak@sarai.net, or at mehta@vsnl.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 06:49:43 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A91004A304 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066EF49F43 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 02:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lucky ([203.197.196.251]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA18735 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:55:44 -0500 (GMT) Received: by lucky (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CD6AB3B090; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:56:21 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Sarai Reader From: Supreet Sethi Date: 01 Mar 2001 15:56:21 +0530 Message-ID: <87ofvlkcoi.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> Lines: 78 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200103/6 X-Sequence-Number: 2182 There is this intreseting reader that was produced. It was released on Sarai opening. The reader has articles and essays on various topics including fre= e software and software industry. Below is table of content of the reader. = You can contact me at supreet@sarai.net if you wanna buy it. Its available = at 150 and 50 Rs. students discount. The reader is also available in pdf fo= rm on sarai site www.sarai.net ENTERING THE PUBLIC DOMAIN - viii=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20 dak@sarai.net: Discussing the Public Domain - 1 Quotes: Dipesh Chakrabarty/Sudipta Kaviraj - 10=20 Martin Chautari in Kathmandu: Ideas unlimited and thoughts unrestrained -= =20 C.K. Lal - 12=20 Frequently Asked Questions about the Public Domain - Erik Kluitenberg - 1= 7=20 The Topoi of E Space: Global cities and global value chains - Saskia Sasse= n - 24=20 CLAIMING THE CITY - 33=20 Quotes: Partha Chatterjee/Ashis Nandy - 34=20 CityScapes - Awadhendra Sharan - 38=20 Dislocating Delhi: A city in the 1990s - Aditya Nigam - 40=20 Post Colonial Towns Called Deoria - Shahid Amin - 47=20 'Our' Media City - Jeebesh Bagchi + Ravi Sundaram OLD MEDIA/NEW MEDIA: ONGOING HISTORIES - 55=20 An Imperfect Public: Cinema and citizenship in the 'third world' - Ravi S.= Vasudevan - 57=20 On Mushtaq Gazdar's 'History of Pakistani Cinema' - Rehan Ansari - 69=20 Who's Afraid of Radio in India? - Frederick Noronha - 72=20 FM Radio and the New Urban Public in Nepal - Pratyoush Onta - 76=20 The 'Daily' Reality of Partition: Politics in newsprint, in 1940s Kanpur -= Saumya Gupta - 80=20 The ABC of Tactical Media - David Garcia + Geert Lovink - 90=20 Recycling Modernity: Pirate electronic cultures in India - Ravi Sundaram = - 93 New Media: A users guide - Lev Manovich - 100 INTERNET INTERVENTIONS - 109=20 The Rise and Fall of Dotcom.mania: Cyberculture in the Internet economy - = Geert Lovink - 110=20 Internet Nation: The case of cyber Yugoslavia - Tomislav Longinovic - 117= =20 On Search Engines - Matthew Fuller - 123=20 Stop Big Brothers! - Supreet Sethi - 125=20 A Chronology of Media and the State (in India) - Jeebesh Bagchi - 127=20 Policing the Net: The dangers of India's new IT Act - Siddharth Varadaraja= n - 133=20 Re: Covert Censorship (letter) - Seema Kazi - 135=20 Hindi Web World: Tentative steps in an optimistic direction - Ravi Kant - = 136=20 Why Activists Cannot Afford to Neglect the Internet - Arun Mehta - 140=20 WETWARE: BODIES IN THE DIGITAL DOMAIN - 147=20 Touch: Wetware, Ubicom and Nanotech - Julianne Pierce - 148=20 New Maps & Old Territories: A dialogue between Yagnavalkya and Gargi in Cy= beria - Monica Narula + Shuddhabrata Sengupta - 152=20 On the Shopfloor: A personal account of work in the IT industry: India - J= oy Chatterjee - 159=20 South Asian Workers in Silicon Valley: An account of work in the IT indust= ry: U.S.A. - Raj Jayadev - 169 Bodyshopping - A Story: An account of an emigre Indian programmer in Amer= ica - 171=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Entry Permitted/Access Denied - Ruchika Agarwal - 174 'FREE AS IN FREEDOM': SOFTWARE AS CULTURE - 175 Why Software Should Not Have Owners - Richard Stallman - 176=20 What Is Copyleft? - 181=20 Some Confusing/Loaded Words + Phrases (that are worth avoiding) - 182=20 Piracy is Your Friend - Jaron Lanier - 185=20 www.freeradio.org - 187 Interview with Stallman - 188=20 The Hacker's Ethic - 190=20 The Hacker Anti Defamation League - 191=20 Free Science Campaign - 192=20 The Free Music Philosophy (v 1.4) - Ram Samudrala - 194 Free Software as Collaborative Text - Florian Cramer - 199 Cooking Pot Markets: Gift Economy - Rishabh Iyer Ghosh - 207 On hacking, free software, etc. - 222=20 Fire, Work With Me - L. Fitzgerald Sjoberg - 225=20 Copyrighting Fire! - Ian Clarke - 227=20 228 The Manifesto of January 3, 2000 - Bruce Sterling - 229 The Net and the Web - Hakim Bey - 233 How Sarai Happened - 240=20 Aims & Objectives of Sarai - 241=20 About SONM & CSDS =D0 242=20 Notes on Contributors - 243=20 Acknowledgments - 246 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 07:48:19 2001 Received: from palcom.net (unknown [203.197.220.130]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663C84A10F for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 07:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from PALCOMJ5A7PI7F ([203.86.100.240]) by palcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA07713 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:09:47 +0530 Message-ID: <00ac01c0a266$a5203850$f06456cb@deep.palcom.net> From: "Pradeep Kumar" To: References: <983448398.983448398@mantramail.com> Subject: Re: where can i get Debian in Delhi ? Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:15:30 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/7 X-Sequence-Number: 2183 You can contact to Mr. R.K.Singh of Aditi Computers (situated at Janakpuri). Ph. 5528574 He is the only dealer for various Linux distributions in North India. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yashpal Nagar" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:36 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] where can i get Debian in Delhi ? > Hi ! > Can someone please tell me form where in Delhi > can i have the Debian latest dist. and how much is the > cost for CD. Manish also mail some one for this > but that guy did't respond back. > > Regards-- > > Yashpal Nagar > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 09:12:16 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BE14A24A for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.165]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA17501 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:34:43 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DC2F71969; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:03:06 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:03:06 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Tha Gnoo publeek lie-sense ;) Re: news/nntp Message-ID: <20010301090306.A3871@black-satan> References: <20010228081425.A457@black-satan> <20010301002521.A1313@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010301002521.A1313@bigfoot.com>; from sandipb@bigfoot.com on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 12:25:21AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/8 X-Sequence-Number: 2184 On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 12:25:21AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: >On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 07:44:26PM +0600, neil merrily said: >> > And, Like pine tin is not Free software >> haa??? what are u saying???? >> pinku gone mad??? > >No. He is perfectly sane. What he means is that tin doesn't have >the GNU tag in it. And any thing which doesn't have a GNU tag is *evil*. >Also notice the capital F in "Free". [snip] ---end quoted text--- Nice. sandipu You will leave not even one chance. Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution is not generally understood by less advanced life forms, and they'll call you crazy. Ha ha use tin pine whinblows ther're oll the shame and they're all *evil* <--( And BTW i don't use emacs) just like this style. **** Playing a Red Hat cd backwards will let you hear dark satanic messages from the devil That's nothing. If you play it forward It will Install Red Hat 7.0 on your system. -- ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 09:12:31 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4C04A269 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.165]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA17503 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:34:44 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9E5471980; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:13:41 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:13:41 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: February/March Meeting Message-ID: <20010301091341.C3871@black-satan> References: <200102281840.AAA05235@mail.linux-delhi.org> <3A9DAEA7.74F34925@linux-delhi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3A9DAEA7.74F34925@linux-delhi.org>; from vk@linux-delhi.org on Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 07:36:31AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/9 X-Sequence-Number: 2185 On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 07:36:31AM +0530, Krishnan Venkatachalam wrote: >Many thanks to Egurucool and especially to Sanjay and Vivek for hosting >this months Linux Delhi meet at Egurucool. > >---VK > > > >Raju Mathur wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> The Feb/March meeting is scheduled for Sunday, March 4th. Details: ---end quoted text--- Jeebesh will be talkin about IT bill to clear doubts I think our lawer members should be there too. r ju listinin I will bring some copies of the sarai reader if any one wants to buy. -- I know how to do SPECIAL EFFECTS!! ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 09:40:14 2001 Received: from delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (del3.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.4]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C8C4A101; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuxspace.com ([203.197.204.105]) by delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA26921; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:02:39 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <3A9E8167.DE747572@tuxspace.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:35:43 +0530 From: Manish Kathuria Organization: Tux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org Cc: linux delhi Subject: Re: [LIH] alsa-sound References: <01e001c0a1b1$9b22b400$daf60b3d@rahul> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/10 X-Sequence-Number: 2186 Hi Rahul, You need to run the following command modprobe snd-intel8x0 and then reboot and set the mixer. Make sure that you have added the following lines to your /etc/modules.conf file. #alsa native device support alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-intel8x0 options snd-card-intel8x0 snd_index=0 snd_id="Intel810" #oss freesetup alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss HTH, Manish Rahul Jindal wrote: > > Hello people, > i'm trying to install alsa sound drivers on an i810. i did the .confuger > make and make install for alsa-driver, alsa-lib, alsa-utils, in that order. > this was folllowed by ./snddevices. the manual says the next step is to do a > modprobe, acc. to some advice (i'm not sure of the sound module required), i > tried this > modprobe snd-card-als100.o > but the "cannot find module" was produced. i now the object output is in the > directory cards inside alsa-drivers directory. > i thik i need to specify some paths or something. how do we do that. > > i did try adding the path in /etc/modules.conf. > > the out put > first it says use of /etc/conf.modules is deprecated. now thats ok. it > doesn't even contain any paths. > again the module not found error is printed > > i'm sure there is a problem with the i'm mentioning the path, how do i do > it. > > please help > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 09:44:33 2001 Received: from delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (delcluster1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DC74A106 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuxspace.com ([203.197.204.24]) by delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA01225 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:07:01 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <3A9E86D1.44D24196@tuxspace.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:58:49 +0530 From: Manish Kathuria Organization: Tux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: where can i get Debian in Delhi ? References: <983448398.983448398@mantramail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/11 X-Sequence-Number: 2187 Try Aditi Computers, GF-18, Jyoti Shikhar Building, District Centre, Janakpuri - Ph. 5591777 Else get hold of the Network Computing's Linux Special Issue. It has Debian on the CDs. HTH, Manish Yashpal Nagar wrote: > > Hi ! > Can someone please tell me form where in Delhi > can i have the Debian latest dist. and how much is the > cost for CD. Manish also mail some one for this > but that guy did't respond back. > > Regards-- > > Yashpal Nagar > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 10:27:43 2001 Received: from smtp01.vsnl.net (smtp01.vsnl.net [203.197.12.7]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F95A4A331 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from soft ([203.197.193.194]) by smtp01.vsnl.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9J6ZZ01.H3L for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:51:35 +0530 Message-ID: <000301c0a269$32cdfc80$c2c1c5cb@soft> From: "Chandramouli Srinivasan" To: References: <01e001c0a1b1$9b22b400$daf60b3d@rahul> Subject: Re: alsa-sound Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:42:07 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/12 X-Sequence-Number: 2188 Hi Rahul, I had also compiled sound module afew days before. U only have to add the lines given in the manual to modules.conf or conf.modules.(with only 2 changes according to ur soundcard).I think u dont have to give any path there. First check, if alsa-driver....../modules directory contains the concerned .o file. I think the problem may be because u are not doing these things as root.Try this:- 1. copy ur alsa-driver-0.5.10b directory to /root (logged in as root). 2. then follow the steps from ./configure to modprobe snd-card-... 3 If everything goes well ,then reboot. Let me know if this works. Bye From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 10:57:06 2001 Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E254A08D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([61.11.246.154]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f21Iq8Q30938 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:22:08 +0530 Message-ID: <030f01c0a27f$b0d3f100$1f7483ca@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: References: Subject: Re: Re: [LIH] Free NNTP Servers Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:14:46 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/13 X-Sequence-Number: 2189 hi there, inspite of signing up. i get this "unable to connect to server" with the following config Configuration: Account: news.cis.dfn.de Server: news.cis.dfn.de User name: jindal Protocol: NNTP Port: 119 Secure(SSL): 0 Code: 800ccc0e and sometimes it is. authentication needed witht the same config along with error=0x200 r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 11:02:03 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7B04A08D for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspiron ([203.197.203.31]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id AAA00297 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:24:34 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <004a01c0a2f2$4dc538d0$0b00000a@inspiron> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: Subject: mounting errors & NIC Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:25:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/14 X-Sequence-Number: 2190 Hi, When I try to mount fat32 partitions I get error something like: "this partition has wrong minor or major number". What does that mean? How to rectify that? Also during boot my I get message that initialisation of my network card has been delayed? Why is that? If I type "ifconfig eth0 up" it tells me that the network cards doesn't exist. When I got to netcfg then and I try to activate the eth0 interface then in the terminal windows I can see message that initialization of eth0 is delayed. How to fix this? I am using RH 7.0 and I have Intel 8255x based network card. Please heeeeeeeeeelp!!!! Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 12:29:08 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D65F4A23B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.150.60] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.150.60]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f21KMvk05437 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:22:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 01:27:23 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Re: [LIH] Free NNTP Servers In-Reply-To: <030f01c0a27f$b0d3f100$1f7483ca@rahul> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/15 X-Sequence-Number: 2191 > "unable to connect to server" > with the following config > > Configuration: > Account: news.cis.dfn.de > Server: news.cis.dfn.de > User name: jindal > Protocol: NNTP > Port: 119 > Secure(SSL): 0 > Code: 800ccc0e be more specific... tell me what client, what server(leafnode,inn,noffle...etc and ill tell u the rite config > authentication needed that is ur problem... isnt it??? Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 16:05:17 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 170CA4A139 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25034 invoked by uid 417); 2 Mar 2001 00:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BIG) (203.197.193.72) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2001 00:09:36 -0000 Message-ID: <002f01c0a13e$e701c0f0$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <200102281840.AAA05235@mail.linux-delhi.org> <03e901c0a213$b21bf970$8900000a@aclindia.com> Subject: Re: adding modules in apache Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:40:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/16 X-Sequence-Number: 2192 I wanna add a module in apache that didnot come with the standard apache package. I have the mod_session.c now I wanna add this module into apache DSO outside its source tree. but where do i find the apxs ??? there is no such file on my puter ! I have apache 1.3.12 do i need the apache-devel for this file ? BTW whose the apache guru in dlug ? rgds, Amit. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 20:57:14 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F3E34A1D6 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000015184; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:16:56 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01318; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:20:56 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15007.9904.333248.64497@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:20:56 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Sarai Reader In-Reply-To: <87ofvlkcoi.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> References: <87ofvlkcoi.fsf@lucky.sarai.kit> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/17 X-Sequence-Number: 2193 Why don't you bring a few copies along to the meet and see if people would like to buy? I'd suggest having a special ``Linux-Delhi'' price for members. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Supreet" == Supreet Sethi writes: Supreet> There is this intreseting reader that was produced. It Supreet> was released on Sarai opening. The reader has articles Supreet> and essays on various topics including free software and Supreet> software industry. Below is table of content of the Supreet> reader. You can contact me at supreet@sarai.net if you Supreet> wanna buy it. Its available at 150 and 50 Rs. students Supreet> discount. The reader is also available in pdf form on Supreet> sarai site www.sarai.net -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 21:12:07 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4462F4A13B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DDB4A261 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.165]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA17502 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:34:44 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E55B51977; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:11:47 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:11:47 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Stop This or else Message-ID: <20010301091147.B3871@black-satan> References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B2965E948@ctsinpunsxua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B2965E948@ctsinpunsxua>; from HarshalV@pun.COGNIZANT.COM on Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:00:14PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/18 X-Sequence-Number: 2194 On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:00:14PM +0530, Harshal Vaidya (CTS) wrote: >harshal vaidya. Mr Harshal You have been already told to remove this message from your mails. Its better you remove it and then send it to me because I am certainly not an intended recipent of your stupid shitty questions I never intended to interface with you. u just sat on my face I may not have a team of lawers just waithin for my fingers to snip. but I do subscribe to alt.animal.husbandry and alt.satanic.messages and before I find you the intended recipent just make sure that this piece of shit never comes across my face again. If any one is facing the same problem instead of wasting important time replying or writing use this message. Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire message is permitted in any medium, provided this notice is preserved. >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. >If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. >Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com > ---end quoted text--- -- I know how to do SPECIAL EFFECTS!! ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 21:36:18 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E4D24A2FF for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:36:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4EED4A13B for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:51:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.165]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA14528; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:14:25 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BEB471977; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:01:49 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:07:42 -0800 (PST) From: Jaswinder Singh Kohli To: one_clan@mindbend.org Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: GRUB Article in LG issue 64 Message-ID: <20010301120742.7123.qmail@web310.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Received: from localhost (black-satan [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DBD1969 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:41:46 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Received: from mail.sarai.net by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.3.3) for pankaj@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:41:46 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Received: from web310.mail.yahoo.com (web310.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.75]) by mail.intra.waag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id OAA15197 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:03:48 +0100 Received: from [210.18.9.122] by web310.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 04:07:42 PST X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1 (http://amavis.org/) X-Archive-Number: 200103/19 X-Sequence-Number: 2195 Come on grab it lg-issue64 has Jasvindar's article on grub Do it Do it NOW ftp.ssc.com/pub/lg/lg-issue64.tar.gz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 21:39:32 2001 Received: from velos.velos.ssind.com (unknown [12.10.197.162]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA9A4A2FF for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:39:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssind-1.ssind.stpn.soft.net ([12.10.197.163]) by velos.velos.ssind.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 35-54367U200L2S100V35) with ESMTP id AAA388; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:00:22 +0530 Received: from ggn.aithent.com ([192.7.7.45]) by ssind-1.ssind.stpn.soft.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-68229U1000L100S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA435; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:04:25 +0530 Message-ID: <3A9F3357.BE8CC56F@ggn.aithent.com> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:14:55 +0530 From: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com (Rajesh Thiharie) Reply-To: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com Organization: Aithent X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Stop This or else References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B2965E948@ctsinpunsxua> <20010301091147.B3871@black-satan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/20 X-Sequence-Number: 2196 You are being offensive to people because you are interacting with them using e-mail. Try being offensive with them when you see them physically. Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > Mr Harshal You have been already told to remove this message from > your mails. Its better you remove it and then send it to me > because I am certainly not an intended recipent of your stupid shitty questions > I never intended to interface with you. u just sat on my face > I may not have a team of lawers just waithin for my fingers to snip. > but I do subscribe to alt.animal.husbandry > and alt.satanic.messages > and before I find you the intended recipent just make sure that > this piece of shit never comes across my face again. > > If any one is facing the same problem instead of wasting important > time replying or writing use this message. > > Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire message is > permitted in any medium, provided this notice is preserved. > > >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. > >If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > >Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com > > > > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > I know how to do SPECIAL EFFECTS!! > ................................ > Pankaj Kaushal > Proud to use GNU > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi -- Si minor plus est ergo nihil sunt omnia From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 21:42:39 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E185E4A22F for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u ([203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01141; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:39:31 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: , Subject: RE: Stop This or else Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:32:06 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-reply-to: <3A9F3357.BE8CC56F@ggn.aithent.com> Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200103/21 X-Sequence-Number: 2197 agreed -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Rajesh Thiharie Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 9:45 PM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Stop This or else You are being offensive to people because you are interacting with them using e-mail. Try being offensive with them when you see them physically. Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > Mr Harshal You have been already told to remove this message from > your mails. Its better you remove it and then send it to me > because I am certainly not an intended recipent of your stupid shitty questions > I never intended to interface with you. u just sat on my face > I may not have a team of lawers just waithin for my fingers to snip. > but I do subscribe to alt.animal.husbandry > and alt.satanic.messages > and before I find you the intended recipent just make sure that > this piece of shit never comes across my face again. > > If any one is facing the same problem instead of wasting important > time replying or writing use this message. > > Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire message is > permitted in any medium, provided this notice is preserved. > > >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. > >If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > >Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com > > > > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > I know how to do SPECIAL EFFECTS!! > ................................ > Pankaj Kaushal > Proud to use GNU > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi -- Si minor plus est ergo nihil sunt omnia ------------------------------------------------ The mailing list archives are available at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 22:06:59 2001 Received: from eth.net (unknown [202.9.145.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C594A370 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net ([202.9.169.91]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:22:47 +0530 Message-ID: <3A9EAF4E.996FDEF5@eth.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 15:21:34 -0500 From: V Suresh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: References: <003501c0a185$af1fe800$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/22 X-Sequence-Number: 2198 Please don't forget to mention your query briefly in the subject line of every email. Most of us use the subject line to read the mails. Regards, V Suresh. Vikram Sachdeva wrote: > > Can any one suggest me good and free software for local intranet mails > that have both pop and web interfaces . > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi -- *********************** Powered By Linux 2.2.16 *********************** From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Thu Mar 1 22:14:19 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314FE4A375 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:13:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id LAA0000011033; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:33:25 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02473; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:37:23 +0530 Message-Id: <200103020607.LAA02473@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Fri Mar 2 11:37:24 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200103/23 X-Sequence-Number: 2199 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 00:04:16 2001 Received: from web4102.mail.yahoo.com (web4102.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.122]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 732BB4A18C for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:04:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010302075811.2575.qmail@web4102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.27.254] by web4102.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:58:11 PST Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: Chandresh Pant Subject: Which Linux to use? To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/24 X-Sequence-Number: 2200 Hello dear friends I'm new to the Linux world. Although, I've got some exposure to Unix. I like to install Linux on my system, which is Intel p-III, 64 MB ram with 20 gb HDD. I've got RH 6.0. But little confused over many distributions available( I checked the web-site Linux.com) Can anybody suggest me which linux to use? Thanxs and regards ===== Chandresh Pant  URL: www.chandresh.org email: chpant@yahoo.com, mail@chandresh.org, chandresh100@hotmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 04:01:10 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDF44A304 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.226.147]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA17523 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:23:38 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0F98D1969; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:28:38 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:28:38 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Message-ID: <20010301232838.A624@black-satan> References: <003501c0a185$af1fe800$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003501c0a185$af1fe800$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net>; from vikcy@mailandnews.com on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 06:24:55PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/26 X-Sequence-Number: 2202 On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 06:24:55PM +0530, Vikram Sachdeva wrote: > Can any one suggest me good and free software for local intranet mails >that have both pop and web interfaces . Get twig twig will give you web interface to imap. u would need a GNU/Linux box plus apache plus php plus a imap server > > > > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ---end quoted text--- -- Life can be so tragic -- you're here today and here tomorrow. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 05:11:05 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D3F4A5A1 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 05:11:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.147.35] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.147.35]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f22D4sm29375 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:04:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 18:09:32 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: houston! 3com did it to me Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/27 X-Sequence-Number: 2203 not to make any of u out there jelous... but i just upgraded my laptop from a compaq armada to a thinkpad. here. here. the problem is that it comes with a 3com-pci 10/100 ethernet+56.6 modem combo. anyone tried configuring this???? help? Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 06:13:07 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257274A425 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 06:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id TAA0000003352; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:15:38 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04549; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:19:39 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15007.42226.965935.249559@localhost.localdomain> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:19:38 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: houston! 3com did it to me In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/28 X-Sequence-Number: 2204 Does the Thinkpad spell better? ;-) >>>>> "neil" == neil writes: neil> not to make any of u out there jelous... but i just upgraded neil> my laptop from a compaq armada to a thinkpad. here. here. neil> the problem is that it comes with a 3com-pci 10/100 neil> ethernet+56.6 modem combo. anyone tried configuring this???? neil> help? -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 07:47:54 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0E94A18B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:47:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ndindia ([203.197.195.218]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA08545 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:10:21 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> From: "Namitha and Dipak" To: Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:20:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Archive-Number: 200103/29 X-Sequence-Number: 2205 Dear Chandresh, It certainly depends on what you want to do with Linux and what you want Linux to do for you. You can use any floavour of Linux the mot popular being Debian/Redhat/SUSE/Corel. Dipak -----Original Message----- From: Chandresh Pant To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:57 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Which Linux to use? >Hello dear friends > >I'm new to the Linux world. Although, I've got some >exposure to Unix. I like to install Linux on my >system, which is Intel p-III, 64 MB ram with 20 gb >HDD. > >I've got RH 6.0. But little confused over many >distributions available( I checked the web-site >Linux.com) >Can anybody suggest me which linux to use? > >Thanxs and regards > > >===== > >Chandresh Pant >URL: www.chandresh.org >email: chpant@yahoo.com, mail@chandresh.org, chandresh100@hotmail.com > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 08:10:17 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BC24A129 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspiron ([202.54.100.47]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA19735 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:32:36 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <004f01c0a3a3$950da4f0$0b00000a@inspiron> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: "Linux Delhi Mailing list" Subject: Fw: mounting errors & NIC Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:34:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/30 X-Sequence-Number: 2206 Thanks for telling me how to enable network card, I'll try it out. Does anyone know why I am getting these errors when mounting fat32 partitions. When I try to mount fat32 partitions I get error something like: "hda1 partition has wrong minor or major number". What does that mean? How to rectify that? I get the same message even when I try to use the floppy. CDs are mounted OK and I can access them. Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 08:31:51 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [210.214.94.69]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733644A018 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f22GaVL01930; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:06:31 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Cable modem X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 02 Mar 2001 22:06:31 +0530 Message-ID: Lines: 18 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/31 X-Sequence-Number: 2207 Hi all, My local cable-wallah now has cable internet. However, I do not have any experience with it and never seen this thing work. Is this cable modem a stand-alone unit like a router or is it something which plugs into the computer? If it plugs in: Is it external or internal? And does it work under Linux? Looking for some answers... Bye, Lokesh. -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 08:57:05 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 657A54A32D for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 08:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ddp-11-35.mantraonline.com (ddp-11-35.mantraonline.com [202.56.226.35] (may be forged)) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f22GosW12652 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:50:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:54:55 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: alsa problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/32 X-Sequence-Number: 2208 have any of u face problems with compiling alsa under kernel 2.2.14-12 (redhat standard)??? i am getting some problem with a file emu10k1.c while compiling.. cant even get why??? seems like a dependency problem with the kernel compile??? Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:05:53 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE60349F5F for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns77.docsis190.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.190.77] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14Ytq8-0007Aq-00; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:59:40 -0600 Message-ID: <007201c0a342$8e3a7a60$4dbe9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: References: Subject: Re: Cable modem Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:59:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/33 X-Sequence-Number: 2209 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lokesh Setia" > Is this cable modem a stand-alone unit like a router or is it > something which plugs into the computer? If it plugs in: > Is it external or internal? And does it work under Linux? What I have here in Singapore, for what it is worth, is this. The Cable comes in, goes to a passive splitter, one end goes to TV. Other end is connected to a General Instrument SB3100i, a "slightly larger than paperback book" box. It has three connectors: 1 Power Supply 2 Coax Cable 3 UTP Socket I use a straight cable to connect to my NIC. Run pump, and get a DHCP lease. They are multiple LEDs on the boc, but none that really show anything ineteresting. HTH From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:14:09 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342894A00F for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspiron ([202.54.101.84]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA04305 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:36:37 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <000c01c0a3b4$e804e6d0$0b00000a@inspiron> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: Subject: Re: houston! 3com did it to me Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:27:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/34 X-Sequence-Number: 2210 > not to make any of u out there jelous... but i just upgraded my laptop > from a compaq armada to a thinkpad. > here. here. I just upgraded from Thinkpad to Dell Inspiron 8000 (the most advanced laptop on the planet right now): Pentium 3 on 850Mhz 15" TFT Screen (1400x1050) ATI Mobility M4 with 32MB video RAM 32GB IBM HDD 256MB RAM 8x internal Toshiba DVD player (now region free) 8x internal Sony CDRW with 8MB buffer (yes CD and DVD are internal and you can copy CD to CD, this is the only laptop in the world that can do this without any external drives) IEEE 1394 (fire wire port is built in, great for video editing) 10/100 mini-pci Intel EtherExpress 100 NIC 56kpbs fax/modem 2 batteries plus all usual junk. > the problem is that it comes with a 3com-pci 10/100 ethernet+56.6 modem > combo. anyone tried configuring this???? > help? RH 7.0 should have already modules for your network card so installation should be straight forward. Modem is winmodem as far as I know. Some people had some sucess in making them work under Linux. Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:18:11 2001 Received: by www.aunet.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B073C4A0A8; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: List Statistics for linux-delhi for 02/2001 Message-Id: <20010302181808.B073C4A0A8@www.aunet.org> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:18:08 -0800 (PST) From: thaths@aunet.org (Sudhakar Chandra) X-Archive-Number: 200103/35 X-Sequence-Number: 2211 ************************************************************** List: linux-delhi ************************************************************** Number of subscribers Total: 292 Digest: 1 (0.34 %) Each: 291 (99.66 %) ************************************************************** By TLD .com: 192 (65.75 %) .net: 59 (20.21 %) .edu: 2 (0.68 %) .org: 13 (4.45 %) .in: 36 (12.33 %) ************************************************************** By domain name .vsnl.net.in: 9 (3.08 %) .vsnl.com: 7 (2.40 %) .vsnl.net: 2 (0.68 %) .hotmail.com: 21 (7.19 %) .yahoo.com: 50 (17.12 %) .usa.net: 13 (4.45 %) .softhome.net: 14 (4.79 %) .eth.net: 4 (1.37 %) .netscape.net: 2 (0.68 %) .pobox.com: 1 (0.34 %) .iname.com: 2 (0.68 %) ************************************************************** Signal to noise ratio of top posters Total Messages: 389 Total Original Body Lines: 6933 Total Body Lines: 14235 (52% noise) Sorted by messages posted: Total Total Total Messages Original Lines: Posted: Lines: 1: Raju Mathur 31 1598 2153 (26% noise) 2: Ambar Roy 24 283 594 (53% noise) 3: Sanjeev Gupta 22 278 620 (56% noise) 4: Harshal Vaidya (CTS) 21 434 903 (52% noise) 5: Kunal Walia 16 203 840 (76% noise) 6: Vivek khurana 13 187 243 (24% noise) 7: Lokesh Setia 10 181 285 (37% noise) 8: Sandip Bhattacharya 9 345 655 (48% noise) 9: Amit Soni 8 100 343 (71% noise) 10: manish k arya 8 52 150 (66% noise) 11: neil 7 87 160 (46% noise) 12: Mithun Bhattacharya 7 157 264 (41% noise) 13: Anmol Khirbat 7 45 162 (73% noise) 14: V Suresh 6 87 205 (58% noise) 15: Pankaj Kaushal 6 79 145 (46% noise) 16: neil 6 65 137 (53% noise) 17: Dina-natha Das 5 25 66 (63% noise) 18: andrew john 5 55 409 (87% noise) 19: tumbalovesmamuni 5 56 78 (29% noise) 20: Vikram Sachdeva 5 38 104 (64% noise) Sorted by original lines posted: Total Total Total Messages Original Lines: Posted: Lines: 1: Raju Mathur 31 1598 2153 (26% noise) 2: Harshal Vaidya (CTS) 21 434 903 (52% noise) 3: Sandip Bhattacharya 9 345 655 (48% noise) 4: Ambar Roy 24 283 594 (53% noise) 5: Sanjeev Gupta 22 278 620 (56% noise) 6: Kunal Walia 16 203 840 (76% noise) 7: Vivek khurana 13 187 243 (24% noise) 8: Lokesh Setia 10 181 285 (37% noise) 9: Prithu Nath 5 160 276 (43% noise) 10: Mithun Bhattacharya 7 157 264 (41% noise) 11: NAKSI INK 2 125 207 (40% noise) 12: Sudhakar Chandra 1 113 128 (12% noise) 13: rakesh m oberoi 4 111 177 (38% noise) 14: sunil parolia 4 110 240 (55% noise) 15: Jaswinder Singh Kohli 5 104 187 (45% noise) 16: R Kannan 5 100 213 (54% noise) 17: Amit Soni 8 100 343 (71% noise) 18: neil 7 87 160 (46% noise) 19: V Suresh 6 87 205 (58% noise) 20: Yashpal Nagar 3 83 89 (07% noise) Sorted by total lines posted: Total Total Total Messages Original Lines: Posted: Lines: 1: Raju Mathur 31 1598 2153 (26% noise) 2: Harshal Vaidya (CTS) 21 434 903 (52% noise) 3: Kunal Walia 16 203 840 (76% noise) 4: Sandip Bhattacharya 9 345 655 (48% noise) 5: Sanjeev Gupta 22 278 620 (56% noise) 6: Ambar Roy 24 283 594 (53% noise) 7: andrew john 5 55 409 (87% noise) 8: Amit Soni 8 100 343 (71% noise) 9: Lokesh Setia 10 181 285 (37% noise) 10: Prithu Nath 5 160 276 (43% noise) 11: Aditya Singh 5 77 265 (71% noise) 12: Mithun Bhattacharya 7 157 264 (41% noise) 13: Vivek khurana 13 187 243 (24% noise) 14: sunil parolia 4 110 240 (55% noise) 15: Prashant Verma 1 37 231 (84% noise) 16: R Kannan 5 100 213 (54% noise) 17: NAKSI INK 2 125 207 (40% noise) 18: V Suresh 6 87 205 (58% noise) 19: Jaswinder Singh Kohli 5 104 187 (45% noise) 20: Manas Kr. 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This script doesn't do anything clever with HTML, so the stats will be off for HTML messages (no detection of quoted material, and bloated line counts.) ************************************************************** From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:25:14 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF514A464 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03834 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:19:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10677 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:20:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:20:38 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/36 X-Sequence-Number: 2212 On 2 Mar 2001, Lokesh Setia wrote: > Hi all, > > My local cable-wallah now has cable internet. Great. Which part of which city? > Is this cable modem a stand-alone unit like a router or is it > something which plugs into the computer? If it plugs in: > Is it external or internal? External cable modems are the most common. I've never seen one which is internal, but they do exist I think. The chances of an internal cable modem working with linux are very bleak, I would say. About external cable modems, the coax cable from your cable-wallah will plug into the the cable modem. Almost all cable modems have an RJ45 jack which connects to your PCs NIC. To your box, it just looks like ethernet. Some external cable modems connect to the PC via USB. I'm not sure about linux support. In short, a external cable modem with an RJ45 interface should have no problems working with linux. All you need is an NIC in your box. Also check out the Cable-modem howto. Good luck! bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:31:13 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469174A166 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03910 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:25:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10711 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:27:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:27:11 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: houston! 3com did it to me In-Reply-To: <000c01c0a3b4$e804e6d0$0b00000a@inspiron> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/37 X-Sequence-Number: 2213 On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Dina-natha Das wrote: > I just upgraded from Thinkpad to Dell Inspiron 8000 (the most advanced > laptop on the planet right now): > I got an Inspiron 4000. That should be atleast half as advanced :-) Do you have DRI working on your laptop by any chance? bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:31:17 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3A34A15F for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspiron ([202.54.101.84]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA16582 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:53:36 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <001201c0a3b7$4775a990$0b00000a@inspiron> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: Subject: Re: Cable modem Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:55:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/38 X-Sequence-Number: 2214 > My local cable-wallah now has cable internet. However, I do not have > any experience with it and never seen this thing work. You don't need much experience. If you are getting 64kbps connection I don't know if it is worth it, it's kind of misuse of technology or rather waste of technology. On the west I haven't seen cable modem below 265kbps, they are great. > Is this cable modem a stand-alone unit like a router or is it > something which plugs into the computer? It plugs into your network card (if you don't have one you'll have to get it). Some providers (in the USA) lock their cable modems to MAC address of your network card so you can use it only with one computer (but of course it's not very difficult to find workaround this). Nice thing is that Linksys switches allow you to program their uplink port to MAC address of your choice and then you can network whole office on one cable connection or you can use the computer connected to your cable modem as a router by adding another network card. If you'd like to become your own ISP and if you have modem attached to the same computer which is connected to cable you can provide dial in Internet access to your friends and make some money on side like that and pay your cable Internet connection monthly bills :)) >If it plugs in: > Is it external or internal? It is external. Maybe one day someone will start making internal ones for laptops :) > And does it work under Linux? Yes, why not. There are many how-tos avilable to get your cable or DSL connection going. Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:34:14 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913544A4FA for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03950 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:28:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10733 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:29:55 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:29:55 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: houston! 3com did it to me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/39 X-Sequence-Number: 2215 On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, neil wrote: > not to make any of u out there jelous... but i just upgraded my laptop > from a compaq armada to a thinkpad. > here. here. > > the problem is that it comes with a 3com-pci 10/100 ethernet+56.6 modem > combo. anyone tried configuring this???? > help? You might find some pointers here http://mobilix.org/hardware.html bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 10:59:11 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D53B4A44A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04115 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:53:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10849 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:55:03 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:55:03 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: <001201c0a3b7$4775a990$0b00000a@inspiron> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/40 X-Sequence-Number: 2216 On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Dina-natha Das wrote: > You don't need much experience. If you are getting 64kbps connection I don't > know if it is worth it, it's kind of misuse of technology or rather waste of > technology. On the west I haven't seen cable modem below 265kbps, they are > great. You talking kilo bits or kilo bytes ? > If you'd like to become your own ISP and if you have modem attached to > the same computer which is connected to cable you can provide dial in > Internet access to your friends and make some money on side like that > and pay your cable Internet connection monthly bills :)) You would need lots of phone lines and modems and friends to pull this off :-) > It is external. Maybe one day someone will start making internal ones for > laptops :) What good would it do if your laptop had a built-in cable modem, especially if you travel a lot? What you want for your laptop is this http://www.ricochet.com/ http://www.wwc.com/ bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 11:58:17 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7D424A07A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri Mar 2 11:51:47 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:21:47 +0530 From: "ASHISH MUKHERJEE" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ashmukh@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: Cable modem X-Sender-Ip: 203.122.0.63 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 537 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/41 X-Sequence-Number: 2217 I got cable and it works pretty well. The Cable modem is a bit bigger than the dial-up modem and uses Ethernet to connect to your PC. My Cable provider uses DHCP. So long as you're able to configure your Ethernet card on Linux, you can use cable with effortless ease. My Ethernet card came with drivers which I compiled and loaded as a kernel module on bootup. No extra config necessary. Ashish --- cout<<"Hello World !"; Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 15:33:10 2001 Received: from MailAndNews.com (unknown [199.29.68.123]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454E549FF0 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from system2 [203.190.131.2] (vikcy@MailAndNews.com) by MailAndNews.com; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:51:30 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Fri, 2 Mar 01 09:51:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c0a328$a4d33ba0$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> From: "Vikram Sachdeva" To: "Linux" References: Subject: Re: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:20:11 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0A356.2EE44280" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/42 X-Sequence-Number: 2218 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0A356.2EE44280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx But i am facing another problem that i am unable to mail between 2 linux boxes by just doing mail vikram@ip of other linux box The mail is bounced back and the msg i get is attached along this mail. But i am able to send mail outside the network by doing mail xyz@hotmail.com Bye ----- Original Message ----- From: "manish k arya" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] > install qmail and use vpopmail for web interface for local mails > -- > > On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:24:55 > Vikram Sachdeva wrote: > > Can any one suggest me good and free software for local intranet mails > >that have both pop and web interfaces . > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------ > >The mailing list archives are available at > >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > > > > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail > http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0A356.2EE44280 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="mbox.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mbox.dat" =46rom root Fri Mar 2 19:56:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost) by vikram.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f22EQ7a01510; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:07 +0530 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:07 +0530 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <200103021426.f22EQ7a01510@vikram.com> To: root@vikram.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=3Ddelivery-status; boundary=3D"f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Status: RO This is a MIME-encapsulated message --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com The original message was received at Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 from root@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- vikram@192.168.1.216 (reason: 550 Host unknown) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.1.2 vikram@192.168.1.216... Host unknown (Name server: 192.168.1.216:= host not found) --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; vikram.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 Final-Recipient: RFC822; vikram@192.168.1.216 Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; 192.168.1.216 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Host unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:07 +0530 --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by vikram.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f22EQ5b01508 for vikram@192.168.1.216; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 From: root Message-Id: <200103021426.f22EQ5b01508@vikram.com> To: vikram@192.168.1.216 Subject: Tester This is the test mail Bye --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com-- ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0A356.2EE44280-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 16:12:07 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBC44A1D3 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06737; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:05:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13268; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:06:56 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 16:06:56 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: Linux Cc: vikcy@mailandnews.com Subject: Re: RFC822 domain-literals In-Reply-To: <000401c0a328$a4d33ba0$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/43 X-Sequence-Number: 2219 On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Vikram Sachdeva wrote: > But i am facing another problem that i am unable to mail between 2 > linux boxes by just doing mail vikram@ip of other linux box The mail > is bounced back try ``mail vikram@[ip]'' RFC822 discourages using stuff like this. You need to set up your DNS correctly. bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 17:39:12 2001 Received: from delcluster4.vsnl.net.in (del6.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.9]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C25B4A1CF for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 17:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailandnews.com (IDENT:rbs@[203.197.203.144]) by delcluster4.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA21175 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 07:01:38 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AA041E2.CD4E2A66@mailandnews.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 06:29:14 +0530 From: Robins Tharakan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Ethernet Card References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B2965E82C@ctsinpunsxua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/44 X-Sequence-Number: 2220 just add any name like 'nexus' or 'exdus' after 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost:localdomain i.e. 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost:localdomain nexus i think i have seen scripts which actually reject localdomain as a hostname .... (possibly, "any" other name might just work..") btw, my similar problem did go away with this solution.... affly, vava vava@mailandnews.com "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" wrote: > it is already localhost.localdomain is .localdomain creating a problem. > > regards, > harshal > vaidya. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kunal Walia [mailto:kwalia@vt.edu] > Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2001 15:18 > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Ethernet Card > > > when i say startx i get a error saying "hostname lookup failure" how > ever > > i can cooly access the net. > > any suggestions are welcome. > > go to etc/hosts and set the host as : localhost > Thats should solve it. > > - Kunal > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ...because the best things in life are free > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt > InterScan_Disclaimer.txt Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: 7bit > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 19:07:11 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FE949F37 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:06:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspiron ([202.54.109.52]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id IAA28849 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:29:15 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <005601c0a3ff$50b3c300$346d36ca@inspiron> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: Subject: Re: houston! 3com did it to me Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:30:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/45 X-Sequence-Number: 2221 > I got an Inspiron 4000. That should be atleast half as advanced :-) You should be OK with it. > Do you have DRI working on your laptop by any chance? I've found some drivers for ATI M4 on Dell's web site so I am trying to install them. Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 19:12:13 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A6D4A00C for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:12:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id IAA0000026907; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:31:53 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01090; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:35:40 +0530 Message-Id: <200103030305.IAA01090@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sat Mar 3 08:35:40 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200103/46 X-Sequence-Number: 2222 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: anand@powergridindia.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 19:15:45 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0EB4A1C7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from inspiron ([202.54.109.52]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id IAA06282 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:38:11 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <006001c0a400$8fdc7940$346d36ca@inspiron> From: "Dina-natha Das" To: References: Subject: Re: Cable modem Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:39:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/47 X-Sequence-Number: 2223 > You talking kilo bits or kilo bytes ? Bytes would be nice but unfortunately I was talking about bits. > You would need lots of phone lines and modems and friends to pull this > off :-) Just an idea :) > What good would it do if your laptop had a built-in cable modem, > especially if you travel a lot? Who knows, maybe in the future all cable subscribers will automatically have internet access so wherever you go you can get connected, something like a phone, you just have to have a modem and you can get connected from anywhere :)) > What you want for your laptop is this > > http://www.ricochet.com/ > http://www.wwc.com/ Hmm, that's cool, I am sure that the service will be available in Delhi in a month or so then I'll get one :))) Dnd. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 19:39:47 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9559D4A1C7 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07845 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:33:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14403 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:35:03 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: houston! 3com did it to me In-Reply-To: <005601c0a3ff$50b3c300$346d36ca@inspiron> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/48 X-Sequence-Number: 2224 On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Dina-natha Das wrote: > > > Do you have DRI working on your laptop by any chance? > > I've found some drivers for ATI M4 on Dell's web site so I am trying to > install them. > AFAIK, this "driver" thing on Dell's website is just an XF86Config file. I believe its gonna take more than that to get DRI working. Anyway, I'd like to hear from you if you manage to get the hang of DRI. bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 20:06:33 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE8449F05 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:06:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.204.31]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA09449 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:28:57 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B36E8746; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:32:25 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:32:25 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem Message-ID: <20010303093225.A702@black-satan> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from lsetia78@yahoo.com on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:06:31PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/49 X-Sequence-Number: 2225 On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:06:31PM +0530, Lokesh Setia wrote: > >Hi all, > >My local cable-wallah now has cable internet. However, I do not have >any experience with it and never seen this thing work. Sorry to intrupt in jour dream land but. Most of the cable walla in delhi will give one cable modem with 5-6 eth out for that u got to get a NIC card and a normal cat 5 will come to jour house. > >Is this cable modem a stand-alone unit like a router or is it >something which plugs into the computer? If it plugs in: >Is it external or internal? And does it work under Linux? > >Looking for some answers... > >Bye, >Lokesh. > >-- >Cricket scoreboard for linux >For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr ---end quoted text--- -- FORTUNE DISCUSSES THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN: #17 Shoes: The average man has 4 pairs of footwear: running shoes, dress shoes, boots, and slippers. The average woman has shoes 4 layers thick on the floor of her closet. Most of them hurt her feet. Making friends: A woman will meet another woman with common interests, do a few things together, and say something like, "I hope we can be good friends." A man will meet another man with common interests, do a few things together, and say nothing. After years of interacting with this other man, sharing hopes and fears that he wouldn't confide in his priest or psychiatrist, he'll finally let down his guard in a fit of drunken sentimentality and say something like, "You know, for someone who's such a jerk, I guess you're OK." ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 20:21:37 2001 Received: from times.timesofte.com (unknown [203.197.237.19]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B954A393 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 20:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from timesofte.com (IDENT:mehulg@times.timesofte.com [203.197.237.19]) by times.timesofte.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f234Fka01517 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 09:45:46 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA06FF2.2090304@timesofte.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 09:45:46 +0530 From: Sanjay Gupta Organization: TIMESOFT.COM PVT LIMITED User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22smp i686; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Figting Areana Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/50 X-Sequence-Number: 2226 It seems that this lists is used for less of technical discussions and more towards personal figting areana. This misuse of this forum should be stopped. Or else the sole purpose of joining this forum will be defaeted. I would also request the list-owner to kindly remove all such types of mails from record so that in future if somebody is trying to access the records might not have a bad impact. With best wishes to all and our aim towards a technical forum Sanjay Gupta From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 21:23:47 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16684A011 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000023796; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:43:11 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15166; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:46:48 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15008.32319.959470.236442@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:46:47 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Figting Areana In-Reply-To: <3AA06FF2.2090304@timesofte.com> References: <3AA06FF2.2090304@timesofte.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/51 X-Sequence-Number: 2227 Hi Sanjay, While I agree with your feelings, I must also note that there's bound to be discussion and perhaps strife where ever a number of people with divergent views assemble. It's part of life. I feel that we must take all the ``fighting'' in our stride. If you don't like it, the best way to kill it is to ignore it. I'm not in a position to change the contents of the archives, and I probably wouldn't even if I could, otherwise they wouldn't reflect a true picture of our group. And don't worry, Linux-Delhi didn't invent flamewars -- they're a part of the Internet culture :-) Having said all that, I would request people to avoid using strong language towards one another on the list. If you want to call me a b*st*rd, please do it in a personal message, not on the list. Even better, come face-to-face with me and do it :-) Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Sanjay" == Sanjay Gupta writes: Sanjay> It seems that this lists is used for less of technical Sanjay> discussions and more towards personal figting areana. Sanjay> This misuse of this forum should be stopped. Or else the Sanjay> sole purpose of joining this forum will be defaeted. Sanjay> I would also request the list-owner to kindly remove all Sanjay> such types of mails from record so that in future if Sanjay> somebody is trying to access the records might not have a Sanjay> bad impact. Sanjay> With best wishes to all and our aim towards a technical Sanjay> forum Sanjay> Sanjay Gupta -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 21:37:06 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50D84A12B for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ndindia (d3138.pppdel.vsnl.net.in [203.197.199.18]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA11797 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:54:18 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <000201c0a3a3$a7b83d40$12c7c5cb@ndindia> From: "Namitha and Dipak" To: Subject: Re: free software Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:31:46 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Archive-Number: 200103/52 X-Sequence-Number: 2228 Well I believe that Free software and Open Source are often used synonymously. Open Cource gives you the freedom to modify/improve the software and not stop it from eveolving. Anything without that is like Gene-Modified software which cannot evolve in any way other than the proprietary path chosen by the creator of the software. The kind of licences which do not encorage innovation and evolution is necessarily doomed even if it has the best legal and marketing muscle. ( MS has more lawers and accountants than software developers). I beleive that it is the buyer's right to get the source code for the software if the person so desires without cost. What you need to pay for is servicing and packaging, and in case it promises to do something for the risk and guarantees which by and large are very poor in a field which is yet to mature completely. Dipak -----Original Message----- From: Naksi Ink To: Monica Narula ; Jeebesh bagchi ; Shuddhabrata Sengupta ; Ravi Sundaram ; Ravi Vasudevan ; Saumya Gupta ; Supreet Sethi ; Pankaj Kaushal ; Ruchika Agarwal ; Ravikant ; Deepu Sharan ; Aditya Nigam Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 8:32 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] free software >I have some problem regarding the argument raised against the proprietary >model of software. The argument is, information or knowledge never >diminishes as it is shared. So it can be shared freely and should be >non-proprietary. It means this argument establishes the argument for the >proprietary model of such commodities, which are perished with usage and >consumption. It provides legitimation to the whole model of market economy, >which is based on proprietorship. The argument of non-proprietary software >movement basically establishes the supremacy of proprietary model and >defines itself as an exception rather than upholding a holistic attitude >towards all the commodities used by mankind. > >This argument raised by custodian of free-software community tries to single >out themselves from the rest of the society as a special case. It doesn’t >challenge the accumulation and protection of wealth. Rather exploits the >material limitation of other commodities for its expansion and growth. >Indirectly it actually opposes the free availability and distribution of >perishable commodities and justifies the exploitive nature of market >economy. I find that theory very selfish theory. It actually means if >knowledge diminishes by sharing they will never share it!! > >Their theory doesn’t guarantee against the blockage of knowledge to protect >the power acquired through control over knowledge. Because according to the >theory if anything diminishes as a result of sharing they are not going to >do it. I am raising this point because certain kind of knowledge requires >certain kind of access, which is dependent on wealth and power. Knowledge is >not only matter of information but also matter of infrastructure. >Infrastructure is a perishable commodity. In many cases just availability of >books or CD does not help, instruments and hardware are extremely important >which they think should be proprietary because those things are perishable. >This means they want and at the same time they don’t want free distribution >of knowledge!! It looks as if it demands respectable status of non-criminal >act within the value system of market economy. > >Rather I recommend that argument might be, every commodity ideally should be >freely available and non-proprietary but in market economy something like >certain form of information can only be circulated freely because it does >not require accumulation of wealth to reproduce. > >My concern is free software movement should not be seen and identified as >isolated event with which larger section of the community can not >communicate. Rather it should be seen as a part of larger social >consciousness. > >One more important point I would like to discuss. If we condemn cracking it >means we are condemning stealing. Though stealing might not be a justifiable >act and as I am not elaborating but I would like to put some light on the >fact that we have lots of facts and fictions which try to examine the act of >stealing. Some time they even end up justifying it! We have seen lots of >Hindi films and some stories and novels on this subject. I just want to say >we can see the word and act of cracking more critically rather than >condemning it just by saying “hacking is not cracking”. As sometime we try >to see software piracy critically. > >Joy >27.02.2001,1.37A.M. > > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 21:49:20 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 834374A15A for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08418 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:36:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15371 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:38:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 21:38:11 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: tetris and fsck Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/53 X-Sequence-Number: 2229 http://www.movement.uklinux.net/fscktris/fscktris.html bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 22:19:16 2001 Received: from web4107.mail.yahoo.com (web4107.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B8A824A00F for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:19:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010303061307.11887.qmail@web4107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.27.120] by web4107.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:13:07 PST Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:13:07 -0800 (PST) From: Chandresh Pant Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/54 X-Sequence-Number: 2230 Dear Dipak Thanx for the Help. I've got RH 6.0 which came with a Linux Book. At present I've got WinNT and Win98 installed in my system(Dual Boot). I guess i will not be able to install the third OS (ie Linux). can you tell me if Linux supports fat partition. Another question is will I be able use whole of 20 GB space of my HDD. ( Because I think linux supports 2 GB x 4 partitions). Thanx and Regards ===== Chandresh Pant URL : www.chandresh.org email: chpant@yahoo, mail@chandresh.org, chpant@rediffmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 22:59:50 2001 Received: from velos.velos.ssind.com (unknown [12.10.197.162]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9103E4A0EE for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssind-1.ssind.stpn.soft.net ([12.10.197.163]) by velos.velos.ssind.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 35-54367U200L2S100V35) with ESMTP id AAA391; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:23:25 +0530 Received: from ggn.aithent.com ([192.7.7.45]) by ssind-1.ssind.stpn.soft.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-68229U1000L100S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA169; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:27:30 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA09853.DC550F3@ggn.aithent.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:38:03 +0530 From: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com (Rajesh Thiharie) Reply-To: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com Organization: Aithent X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux Delhi Subject: [Fwd: Stop This or else] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/55 X-Sequence-Number: 2231 Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:14:55AM +0530, Rajesh Thiharie wrote: > >You are being offensive to people because you are interacting with them > >using e-mail. > >Try being offensive with them when you see them physically. > > Does egurucool has a ring. > > BTW Have you ever seen me. ;) > > >> I know how to do SPECIAL EFFECTS!! > And Yes I know special effects!!!!! > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > you guys are all sick! sick sick sick I tell ya ;) > ................................ > Pankaj Kaushal > Proud to use GNU -- Si minor plus est ergo nihil sunt omnia From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 23:00:00 2001 Received: from velos.velos.ssind.com (unknown [12.10.197.162]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488ED4A0EE for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 22:59:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ssind-1.ssind.stpn.soft.net ([12.10.197.163]) by velos.velos.ssind.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 35-54367U200L2S100V35) with ESMTP id AAA427; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:23:32 +0530 Received: from ggn.aithent.com ([192.7.7.45]) by ssind-1.ssind.stpn.soft.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-68229U1000L100S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA389; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:27:37 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA0985B.82B44E72@ggn.aithent.com> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:38:11 +0530 From: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com (Rajesh Thiharie) Reply-To: rajesht@ggn.aithent.com Organization: Aithent X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linux Delhi Subject: [Fwd: Stop This or else] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/56 X-Sequence-Number: 2232 Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:14:55AM +0530, Rajesh Thiharie wrote: > >You are being offensive to people because you are interacting with them > >using e-mail. > >Try being offensive with them when you see them physically. > > > > > If you think I'm going to beg for mercy, you've > got another think coming. You're all a bunch of fu**ing fascist coc*suckers, > you can all go to hell, f**k you, f**k you, f**k you... > > Get in the ring and I'll kick your bitchy little a** > > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > you guys are all sick! sick sick sick I tell ya ;) > ................................ > Pankaj Kaushal > Proud to use GNU -- Si minor plus est ergo nihil sunt omnia From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 23:15:19 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB75E4A0EE for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.150.54] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.150.54]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f23796b27978 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:09:07 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:14:01 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Figting Areana In-Reply-To: <3AA06FF2.2090304@timesofte.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/57 X-Sequence-Number: 2233 > It seems that this lists is used for less of technical > discussions and more towards personal figting areana. wherever did that come from??? dear ghane, i agree that offensive language must be avoided at all costs, but u must not forget that there are people writing these mails. not bots. so, as with most humans... fighting is inborn. its like saying hold ur breath wile posting. the air is not for U Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Fri Mar 2 23:24:24 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5534A186 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 23:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ghane by texas.dotxtra.com with local-smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14Z6Io-0007eW-00; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 01:18:06 -0600 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 01:18:06 -0600 (CST) From: Sanjeev Gupta To: neil Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Figting Areana In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/58 X-Sequence-Number: 2234 Arre Neil bhai, you have me mixed again. I am not the only Sanjay around. And I am not even a "Sanjay" ;-) I agree with you, however, tempers will rise when discussions occur. Rajesh's maxim is worth thinking over, imagine when posting that you are at a LUG meeting. Speak appropriately. On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, neil wrote: > > It seems that this lists is used for less of technical > > discussions and more towards personal figting areana. > > wherever did that come from??? > dear ghane, i agree that offensive language must be avoided at all costs, > but u must not forget that there are people writing these > mails. not bots. so, as with most humans... fighting is inborn. its like > saying hold ur breath wile posting. the air is not for U -- Sanjeev "ghane" Gupta Mob: +65 98551208 dotXtra Pte Ltd Fax: +65 2275776 Singapore email: ghane@dotxtra.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 00:04:07 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C534F4A0AF for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 00:04:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id NAA0000017709; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:23:49 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01131; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:27:40 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15008.41972.289233.990394@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:27:40 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Feb/March meeting: bad news X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/59 X-Sequence-Number: 2235 Hi, I just received a call from Egurucool. The DVB transformer in their area has burned down, and we will not be able to have the meeting there tomorrow (Sunday the 4th). We will have to postpone the meeting to next Sunday (March the 11th). In the meantime, please let the list know if you can find an alternative location for next week. Regards, -- Raju -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 04:23:31 2001 Received: from tower.portal2.com (tower.portal2.com [202.77.223.18]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBDA04A37B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 60018 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Mar 2001 12:17:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20010303121718.60017.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "manish arya" To: raju@linux-delhi.org Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:17:18 +0800 Subject: Re: Feb/March meeting: bad news X-Archive-Number: 200103/60 X-Sequence-Number: 2236 hi all! i dont know why this happened just a day before meeting.i can understand the problem but cant we have meeting at sarai (the old place) rather than 2 postpone it.or isnt it possible to fix tranaformer ? i mean that there is enough time to tackle the prob . bye manish -----Original Message----- From: Raju Mathur Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:27:40 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: [linux-delhi] Feb/March meeting: bad news > Hi, > > I just received a call from Egurucool. The DVB transformer in their > area has burned down, and we will not be able to have the meeting > there tomorrow (Sunday the 4th). We will have to postpone the meeting > to next Sunday (March the 11th). > > In the meantime, please let the list know if you can find an > alternative location for next week. > > Regards, > > -- Raju > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 04:29:04 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D227B4A306 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.213]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA23125 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:51:24 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CB6BB746; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:58:25 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:58:25 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Message-ID: <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia>; from dipaks@del2.vsnl.net.in on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:20:39PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/61 X-Sequence-Number: 2237 >>Hello dear friends >> >>I'm new to the Linux world. Although, I've got some >>exposure to Unix. I like to install Linux on my >>system, which is Intel p-III, 64 MB ram with 20 gb >>HDD. >> >>I've got RH 6.0. But little confused over many >>distributions available( I checked the web-site >>Linux.com) >>Can anybody suggest me which linux to use? If i have to suggest u a linux disto i would definately ask u to get a debian cd set. >> ---end quoted text--- This is a list ofsome of the linux diso i've tried . So tell me if something is wrong. REDHAT ------ Redhat is the most visible Linux distributor. It is also the first to go public with an IPO backed by big investment dollars from the likes of Intel and Microsoft. Just like M$ Redhat offers several distributions. professional personal and developer edition. Their documentation is also either on the CD or on the website. So if you want a hard copy manual you may want to shell out a little more for it. But if you're installing for the first time it's nice to have a manual in front of you. Caldera OpenLinux ----------------- Caledra is another one of the companies planning to go public (IPO) with their Linux muscle. Caldera owns the rights to DR DOS (Digital Research DOS, for those of you who remember ancient the pre MS era). Caldera's distribution is probably second to Red Hat's in the popularity contest. Caledra only sells openlinux a version known as OpenLinux /lite/ is availiable for download. S.u.S.E. Linux -------------- Coming from Europe the SuSE distribution tries to emphasize the ease of using the graphical user interface. It also comes bundled with the StarOffice 5 for Linux and Corel's Word Perfect 8 for Linux. Caldera and Suse both put properietry software in their disto. Slackware --------- Slackware is one of the very first Linux distributions. It is also best described as still haveing the same pathetic installation precess it had five years ago. Not for loosers. Most of the Slackware users grow up to become debian loosers. I haven't met a slackware user in a long time. Debian Official GNU/Linux ------------------------- The official distribution is a little over $30, it comes on a 4 set CD with source cd set and a printed manual. Debian is a little different from other distributions. For starters, it is an organization, and not a commercial company. Its operating system is based directly on the GNU work, it just happens to only support the Linux Kernel as its base, but the plan is for that to change in the future to swtch to The original GNU Kernel The Hurd . If you have not been to the Debian site before then I encourage you to visit, they articulate so well the concept of free software. Extreme Linux Operating System. This is not quite aimed at the everyday Joe. But once installed is zen I am using debian eversince i tried it for the first time. FreeBSD ------- This is not Linux, just deserves special mention since I've used it. (and Aman and Sandeep would kill me if I didn't) It is a variant on Unix that started out in the academia few years ago. Like Linux it is free, and is actually very widely used by Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to run their servers. Not to mention other big names such as Yahoo and Cdrom.com. I personaly like Freebsd very much but don't use it because of the license. Its not GPL and I am in love with the GPL. But I do have a GB devoted to it and use it when no one is watching. ;) -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 04:55:16 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A784A118 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 04:55:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.213]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA10698 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:17:37 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 24550746; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:07:46 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:07:46 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Feb/March meeting: bad news Message-ID: <20010303180746.A1918@black-satan> References: <20010303121718.60017.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010303121718.60017.qmail@graffiti.net>; from manish_arya@graffiti.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 08:17:18PM +0800 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/62 X-Sequence-Number: 2238 On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 08:17:18PM +0800, manish arya wrote: >hi all! > i dont know why this happened just a day before meeting.i can understand the problem but cant we have meeting at sarai (the old place) rather than 2 postpone it.or isnt it possible to fix tranaformer ? i mean that there is enough time to tackle the prob . Sarai is olways open for the meets and we can pass the hat for pizzas but As many have noticed its too far from the center of the city which all south delhi guys think is south delhi ;) It can't be 2marrow everyone knows no one will show on such short notice But 11 march. Any one else sponsoring a venue. -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 05:19:29 2001 Received: from delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (delcluster1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE4549F4D for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from v ([202.54.101.117]) by delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA07234 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:39:23 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <004b01c0a3e3$a8131360$756536ca@v> Reply-To: "Vipul Mathur" From: "Vipul Mathur" To: "Linux-Delhi" Subject: setiathome down?? Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:40:48 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/63 X-Sequence-Number: 2239 Hiya I just noticed that my setiathome client hasn't done any ET hunting in quite some time.... was wondering if everyone is facing the same... Cheerio! -- Vipul Mathur ----------------------------,_,------------------------------------ (O,O) http://www.vipulonline.com/ ( ) The Geek shall inherit the Earth ----------------------------"-"------------------------------------ OK Scotty, NOW! Detonate and energize! I mean....... From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 05:40:47 2001 Received: from tower.portal2.com (tower.portal2.com [202.77.223.18]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 437D14A0B0 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 05:40:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 71362 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Mar 2001 13:34:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20010303133435.71360.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "manish arya" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Cc: anuraganug@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 21:34:35 +0800 Subject: intersting info X-Archive-Number: 200103/64 X-Sequence-Number: 2240 here is a bit of information which may surprise u. Windows crashes automatically if you don't switch off the machine for 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. Do you know why ? If not read this......................... In Windows the Virtual Machine Manager ( here after referred as VMM )is responsible for creation , execution , monitoring and termination of virtual machines. This VMM which is a 32 bit protected mode operating system , provides a number of system services at chip level of programming .One of these services is "Get_System_Time". This particular service loads the EAX register withthe time in milliseconds since Windows started .This service is accurate to 1 ms. EAX is a 32 bit register. So the maximum number ofmilliseconds it can hold is (2^32)-1 = 4294967295 milliseconds= 4294967.295 seconds= 71582.79 minutes = 1193 hours= 49.7 daysSo after 49.7 days the EAX resets to zero. Most of the Drivers use this Time Service to keep track of the Time out of various services they provide. So after 49.7 days the drives cannot use the get_System_Time function of VMM and they crash. So do not keep your machine on for more than 49.7 days. It will not only crash but make a big hole in the pocket (the electricity bill). -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 06:02:57 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8CB4A20A for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id TAA0000012405; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:22:10 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01637; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:25:57 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15008.63468.627348.378576@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:25:56 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Feb/March meeting: bad news In-Reply-To: <20010303180746.A1918@black-satan> References: <20010303121718.60017.qmail@graffiti.net> <20010303180746.A1918@black-satan> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/65 X-Sequence-Number: 2241 I called Sarai before posting, but being Saturday no one was there. I'd have loved to have the meet there. Maybe next week. I'm game to have regular meetings there, even though it's not exactly on my way anywhere, but many people who live farther than me (Gurgaon, VK, etc) definitely have problems. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Pankaj" == Pankaj Kaushal writes: Pankaj> On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 08:17:18PM +0800, manish arya Pankaj> wrote: >> hi all! i dont know why this happened just a day before >> meeting.i can understand the problem but cant we have meeting >> at sarai (the old place) rather than 2 postpone it.or isnt it >> possible to fix tranaformer ? i mean that there is enough time >> to tackle the prob . Pankaj> Sarai is olways open for the meets and we can pass the hat Pankaj> for pizzas but As many have noticed its too far from the Pankaj> center of the city which all south delhi guys think is Pankaj> south delhi ;) Pankaj> It can't be 2marrow everyone knows no one will show on Pankaj> such short notice But 11 march. Pankaj> Any one else sponsoring a venue. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 06:04:40 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3DB4A30A for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id TAA0000017261; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:22:53 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01645; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:26:55 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15008.63527.283269.298874@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:26:55 +0530 (IST) To: "Vipul Mathur" Cc: "Linux-Delhi" Subject: setiathome down?? In-Reply-To: <004b01c0a3e3$a8131360$756536ca@v> References: <004b01c0a3e3$a8131360$756536ca@v> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/66 X-Sequence-Number: 2242 A fuber cable cut in the campus has put the servers down. Story and details at setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu (which redirects you). Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Vipul" == Vipul Mathur writes: Vipul> Hiya I just noticed that my setiathome client hasn't done Vipul> any ET hunting in quite some time.... Vipul> was wondering if everyone is facing the same... Vipul> Cheerio! Vipul> -- Vipul Mathur -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 06:40:14 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFE54A00C for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.240]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA03359 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:02:27 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B010B746; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:44:05 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:44:04 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Message-ID: <20010303184404.C1918@black-satan> References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303061307.11887.qmail@web4107.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010303061307.11887.qmail@web4107.mail.yahoo.com>; from chpant@yahoo.com on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:13:07PM -0800 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/67 X-Sequence-Number: 2243 On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:13:07PM -0800, Chandresh Pant wrote: >Dear Dipak > >Thanx for the Help. > >I've got RH 6.0 which came with a Linux Book. At >present I've got WinNT and Win98 installed in my >system(Dual Boot). I guess i will not be able to >install the third OS (ie Linux). >can you tell me if Linux supports fat partition. >Another question is will I be able use whole of 20 GB >space of my HDD. ( Because I think linux supports >2 GB x 4 partitions). Who told you that. The partation system is like this a hard disk any hard disk drive can only support only 4 primary partitions each of which may be of as much size. and one of the 4 partations can be a logical partation This logical partation can have a... wait a minute .. I don't know I have tried 18 more partation does anyone knows how much can one make So don't worry I have seen a 40 gb disk runnin perfectly fine on linux. ---end quoted text--- -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 06:43:34 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403914A245 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEHU4N00.IE4 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2030 14:57:59 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.220.166]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9M2P402.NCY for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 02:41:28 -0500 Message-ID: <001801c0a3b4$26487f20$a6dc38ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Certain calrifications Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:02:48 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/68 X-Sequence-Number: 2244 Hello, Any one viewing this please clarify following - (1) In terms of GUI and other add-on goodies like servers, utilities and misc. tools, is DEBIAN LINUX better than Red Hat Linux. (2) How come some members of the mailing list have linux.org IDs? Is there any way I can get one by fulfilling certain procedural requirements like filling certain forms, etc. (3) Does DEBIAN Linux version given in two CDs set with current Linux special issue of Network Computing have the most current version of Linux kernal 2.4.*? I like to end this message with a famous saying of Socrates - "The only thing I know is that I know nothing" Thanks a Lot, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 06:52:31 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649D14A1CB for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.240]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA27592 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:14:43 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 51FD7746; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:13:04 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:13:04 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: intersting info Message-ID: <20010303201304.A2381@black-satan> References: <20010303133435.71360.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010303133435.71360.qmail@graffiti.net>; from manish_arya@graffiti.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:34:35PM +0800 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/69 X-Sequence-Number: 2245 On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:34:35PM +0800, manish arya wrote: >here is a bit of information which may surprise u. >Windows crashes automatically if you don't switch >off the machine for 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. You are certainly wrong its 0.47 seconds i have a video of bill gates himself proving that. And BTW does anyone care. ---end quoted text--- -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 06:52:36 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D254A1BD for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 06:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.240]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA27633 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:14:45 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8EE27761; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:18:03 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 20:18:03 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Figting Areana Message-ID: <20010303201803.B2381@black-satan> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from ghane@texas.dotxtra.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:18:06AM -0600 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/70 X-Sequence-Number: 2246 On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:18:06AM -0600, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > >Arre Neil bhai, you have me mixed again. I am not the only Sanjay around. >And I am not even a "Sanjay" ;-) > >I agree with you, however, tempers will rise when discussions occur. >Rajesh's maxim is worth thinking over, imagine when posting that you are >at a LUG meeting. Speak appropriately. Good argument. Noticed and frm here on will be implemented > ---end quoted text--- -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 08:36:04 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0788F49EFC for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 08:26:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ddp-11-54.mantraonline.com (IDENT:neil@ddp-11-54.ras226.mantraonline.com [202.56.226.54]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f23GJvt01353 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:19:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:25:09 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Certain calrifications In-Reply-To: <001801c0a3b4$26487f20$a6dc38ca@europa> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/71 X-Sequence-Number: 2247 --for furthur information read bottom > (1) In terms of GUI and other add-on goodies > like servers, utilities and misc. tools, is DEBIAN LINUX > better than Red Hat Linux. in terms of the basic s/w they r all the same.. only difference is in tools provided. Rh. kicks ass in terms of next->next->next->finished scripts. debian is the more *nix type do it urself. > (2) How come some members of the mailing list > have linux.org IDs? Is there any way I can get one > by fulfilling certain procedural requirements like > filling certain forms, etc. how? we fasted for 40 days in pennance for our sins.then bathed in the holy ganga when the temp of water was 4degC. then we walked on burning coal and then the hardest of all... begged raju for it. > "The only thing I know is that I know nothing" thats bashful? --for more information.. goto top. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 10:10:08 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AA84A0A4 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:10:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns77.docsis190.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.190.77] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14ZGNk-00082q-00; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:03:52 -0600 Message-ID: <02ec01c0a40c$4da02e80$4dbe9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: "Vipul Mathur" , "Linux-Delhi" References: <004b01c0a3e3$a8131360$756536ca@v> Subject: Re: setiathome down?? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:03:48 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/72 X-Sequence-Number: 2248 Latest news, as of 1800GMT, Saturday: Fiber cut silences SETI@Home, Lawrence Hall of Science 2 March 2001 At about 3:30 AM PST on 27 February an optical fiber cable connecting the U.C. Berkeley campus with the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory was cut, apparently by vandals trying to "salvage" copper from other nearby cables. The broken fiber carries data and voice connections for LBNL and also for the Space Sciences Lab and the Lawrence Hall of Science. SSL is where the SETI@Home project is located, so the millions of participants helping to analyze data have been unable to contact the SETI@Home servers ever since. Repairs were supposed to be completed late today, but have been delayed due to the rain last night. Apparently the rain, mud, and steep terrain combined to prevent the contractors from bringing their equipment to the repair site. We are now being told that the contractors will somehow be able to reach the site tomorrow morning, 3 March, and should finish the repair late in the day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vipul Mathur" To: "Linux-Delhi" Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] setiathome down?? > Hiya > > I just noticed that my setiathome client hasn't done any ET hunting in quite > some time.... > > was wondering if everyone is facing the same... > > Cheerio! > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 10:13:00 2001 Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E26149F05; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([61.11.246.63]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f23IBYQ15880; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:41:35 +0530 Message-ID: <001501c0a40c$67f44b40$3ff60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: Cc: "linux delhi" , Subject: memory blues Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:25:09 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/73 X-Sequence-Number: 2249 Hello listers, i'm facing a peculiar problem. i've been running my linux installation for over 3 months now. but since yesterday, the system hangs, rather "FREEZES" while running linux. this does not happen in windows. i have kde2 installed. where is the fault ? i have also tried switching the SIMM modules. i have 96 megs with breakups of 32 and 64. i've tried to run the system using one at atime. in both the instances the system hange (freezes). by freeze i mean that not even the numlock would respond. this is not healthy as i have to force reboot and then the system complains of unclean unmounting. please help me, my work is stalled. Thanks in Anticipation r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 10:38:21 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9597F4A4A5 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEIJ8K00.H44 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2030 00:00:20 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.214.215]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9MX7Y02.TJ5 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 13:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: <007101c0a410$40a71e60$d7d638ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:01:29 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/74 X-Sequence-Number: 2250 Hi, That bit about getting Linux e-mail IDs was interesting. What you mean to say is that in this forum which represents an attempt to extend the concept of open and free software through Linux there is a hierarchy of overseers. I am surprised that a person needs to beg to get an e-mail ID. What has happened to the pioneering spirit of intellectual anarchism? Are we also slipping into a static, vertical and linear structures of conventional bureaucratic society. I would have been much happier if Linux e-mail IDs would have been freely available to all Linux movement members. We signify an Idea of freedom of thought and total rejection of the existing redundant intellectual dogmas driven by Intellectual Property rights and propreitory system encompassing predatory and regressive mindset. At least we should be more open. Finally, with disappointment I like to pose a question - "Is the spirit of freedom and rebellion against the existing techno imperialism behind the Linux revolution and in the larger context Open and free software DEAD?" That ends my silent protest. With Regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 10:56:52 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f154.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.154]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F8649F05 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 10:50:13 -0800 Received: from 61.1.224.50 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:50:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.1.224.50] From: "vinod abraham" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, raju@linux-delhi.org Subject: Upon kill process going defunct Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 18:50:13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2001 18:50:13.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7C9C670:01C0A412] X-Archive-Number: 200103/75 X-Sequence-Number: 2251 Dear friends, On my linux box except one tty all other ttys I am not able to login. There is no response and in some the login screen doesnot come. When I try to kill process the command is executed but the on ps -aux the process goes "defunct". Even i tried to shutdown or halt BUT the response "Shutting down" comes but then no response. Even when i try to su as root i am sucessful but the remark "PAM_pwdb[4439] etc keeps coming. What could be the problem? pls help. VinodAbraham _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 11:58:15 2001 Received: from butthead.crano.com (unknown [61.11.24.163]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D254A207 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 11:58:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ankur.imaginix.net by crano.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.1.R) for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:44:59 +0530 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> X-Sender: ankz@203.197.236.154 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:19:50 +0530 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org From: Ankur Rohatgi Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: <001201c0a3b7$4775a990$0b00000a@inspiron> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Return-Path: ankur@imaginix.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-Archive-Number: 200103/76 X-Sequence-Number: 2252 Hi all , I saw many messages about this so i thought i will add my two bits , having used so called 'broadband' access for two months or so. In my office we have a DSL line from Dishnet , 64kbps and also has a transfer limit . Modem payment is 30k and they give a tiny USB modem . The modem does not work with win2k and after a long period of troubleshooting they installed the modem that they usually install for more expensive accounts . It has a RJ45 connector and that connects to a lan card on the computer . You cant connect this to a hub/switch as it needs to assign a static IP , a router will do fine though. Performance is ok , 5-6 Kbps downloads on an average. Also in the office we have a Spectranet Cable connection , this is 128k . The modem costs 15.5k and the monthly cost is 7k , its absurd why they have a 64k connection at Rs.1.5 k and 128k at Rs. 7k per month . Anyway they have given a 3com DOCSIS compliant cable modem , you can get one from anywhere , i looked and since they cost around $300 in usa , its better to buy it here coz it comes with a warranty. Plus they cant blame the modem for performance. Hmmm speed is good , 14-15Kbps on average . IP is dynamic. I might add both these are connected to one machine , actually there are 3 internet connections (2 mentioned above and a third coming up) going into that machine (4 lan cards one for local lan) so its pretty much a router . Sadly due to my knowledge on linux , its win2k . Also on the this machine is a mail server , with a dynamic dns mapping its pretty awesome . As long as i have this machine online with any ISP it keeps getting email . If all die , then the email is stored at the dynamic DNS center . Now for exciting part , at home also i have a cable connection from Incable . They are new and still concentrating on expanding their network , so they arent focused on customer acquisition . So why is it exciting ? Get this , NO SPEED LIMIT , NO TRANSFER LIMIT , and what speeds do i get ? from 70-80kbps YES , in the day to 170-200 kbps (thats kilobytes) . Who needs a T1 anymore , i was checking with them and in the course of about 30days of functioning i have leeched more than 9GBs (dont ask me what :) . Also i do a lot of online gaming , pings are vital and i get awesome pings to the game server . I know this will not last very long but its fun. Aah yes it costs rs.1.5k per month and the modem is that same 3com costing 15.5k . This is so good , that i have asked them to immediately install it in my office , i wanna use as much as i can of this line before they throttle it . The sad part is , since they are expanding their network , they are doing a lot of testing and the connection goes down sometimes , but they dont charge for downtime. Well in case anyone wants more info about anything mentioned above please send me an email directly . - Ankur. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 12:01:08 2001 Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB9E4A234 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([61.11.246.249]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f23IkmQ20908 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:16:48 +0530 Message-ID: <010801c0a411$5375c400$3ff60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: References: <20010303061307.11887.qmail@web4107.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:45:21 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/77 X-Sequence-Number: 2253 there's no reason you will not be able to use and install linux also on your m/c. i have these : Win 2000, Win 98, and linux 2.2.14-12 make space for linux in the first 8 gb and do what you will mail me if need be. r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chandresh Pant" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Which Linux to use? > Dear Dipak > > Thanx for the Help. > > I've got RH 6.0 which came with a Linux Book. At > present I've got WinNT and Win98 installed in my > system(Dual Boot). I guess i will not be able to > install the third OS (ie Linux). > can you tell me if Linux supports fat partition. > Another question is will I be able use whole of 20 GB > space of my HDD. ( Because I think linux supports > 2 GB x 4 partitions). > > Thanx and Regards > > ===== > Chandresh Pant > URL : www.chandresh.org > email: chpant@yahoo, mail@chandresh.org, chpant@rediffmail.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 12:12:28 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2A44A06B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.147.203] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.147.203]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f23K65t28205 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:06:10 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:10:57 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors In-Reply-To: <007101c0a410$40a71e60$d7d638ca@europa> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/78 X-Sequence-Number: 2254 > What has happened to the pioneering spirit of intellectual > anarchism? Are we also slipping into a static, vertical and linear > structures of conventional bureaucratic society. budd... enuf of that crap. u want an id, its not free... u gotta pay a couple a bucks for a 1 yr a/c. ask raju for the amount. as for beurocracy??? raju has is the only one we know that can make the a/c so we beg him. and as for u... with no visible sense of houmour, get one. dont get all "reverse psyco"/centi on me. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 12:16:02 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.218]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A0E4A06B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:09:51 -0800 Received: from 61.1.224.49 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:09:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.1.224.49] From: "vinod abraham" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: halt/shutdown not working --pls help!! Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 20:09:51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2001 20:09:51.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[E79DCFE0:01C0A41D] X-Archive-Number: 200103/79 X-Sequence-Number: 2255 Dear friends, most of the tty's are not taking any command. kill of process by "kill -9" leading to process going defunct. No "halt" or "shutdown" command working. Upon going to su --msg that "PAM_pwdb [ ] session coming. i am using linux 2.2.9 mdk version on penium. pls help Vinod. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 12:18:18 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5872E4A06B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.147.203] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.147.203]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f23KC2t28646 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:12:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:17:15 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux delhi Subject: Re: memory blues In-Reply-To: <001501c0a40c$67f44b40$3ff60b3d@rahul> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/80 X-Sequence-Number: 2256 > i've been running my linux installation for over 3 months now. > but since yesterday, the system hangs, rather "FREEZES" while running linux. > this does not happen in windows. > > i have kde2 installed. where is the fault ? please ellaborate. what were u doing? what was running?? what event spawned the freeze... sometimes X freezes... but all u gotta do is ctrl+alt+bksp and restart X. no need for reboot. also, numlck doesnot work for that period for some reason... still figuring that out... Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 12:24:30 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECDE4A0FC for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:24:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.147.203] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.147.203]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f23KI9t29455 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 15:18:10 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:23:27 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/81 X-Sequence-Number: 2257 > arent focused on customer acquisition . So why is it exciting ? Get this , > NO SPEED LIMIT , NO TRANSFER LIMIT , and what speeds do i get ? from > 70-80kbps YES , in the day to 170-200 kbps (thats kilobytes) . Who needs a b**ch! please giv me telnet access to ur systempleeease... ill dnd all that i want/neeeeed and then i can pick up the data every lug meet. even if it means dropping u home?? Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 16:19:20 2001 Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 271C24A185 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO greatleo) (203.175.132.207) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 00:12:58 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "VIKRANT SHOKEEN" To: "linux-delhi@lists. linux-india. org" Subject: Connecting Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 05:33:31 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-Archive-Number: 200103/82 X-Sequence-Number: 2258 Hi to all, i have just got myself a second computer(specifications: PIII 800,128mb ram,intel 810 chipset motherboard) n i want to connect it to my first computer. Please guide me in doing so. i wanna use both Linux(i have got Redhat Linux 7.0) and Windows 2000.How can i access one through other?? I would also be grateful if you could recommend me a good LAN card which is supported by most of the OSes (linux, Solaris 8 and Windows) Thanks in advance, Vikrant _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 16:25:05 2001 Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C122E4A323 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO greatleo) (203.175.132.207) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 00:18:50 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "VIKRANT SHOKEEN" To: "linux-delhi@lists. linux-india. org" Subject: Connecting Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 05:39:24 +0530 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/83 X-Sequence-Number: 2259 Hi to all, i have just got myself a second computer(specifications: PIII 800,128mb ram,intel 810 chipset motherboard) n i want to connect it to my first computer. Please guide me in doing so. i wanna use both Linux(i have got Redhat Linux 7.0) and Windows 2000.How can i access one through other?? I would also be grateful if you could recommend me a good LAN card which is supported by most of the OSes (linux, Solaris 8 and Windows) Thanks in advance, Vikrant _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 17:02:57 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66BCF4A185 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23362 invoked by uid 417); 4 Mar 2001 01:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BIG) (203.197.210.60) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 01:07:19 -0000 Message-ID: <01ba01c0a485$f19bf770$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <20010302075811.2575.qmail@web4102.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:38:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/84 X-Sequence-Number: 2260 I love mandrake. Its easy. and gives u the fun of the workstation. I use redhat 7.0(as of now) I dont like it too much, but i am still using it.(for some project) as soon as i am over with this i'm jumping back to Mandrake. Mandrake is so good ! :o) cya ! And ofcoz welcome to linux world. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chandresh Pant To: Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:28 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Which Linux to use? > Hello dear friends > > I'm new to the Linux world. Although, I've got some > exposure to Unix. I like to install Linux on my > system, which is Intel p-III, 64 MB ram with 20 gb > HDD. > > I've got RH 6.0. But little confused over many > distributions available( I checked the web-site > Linux.com) > Can anybody suggest me which linux to use? > > Thanxs and regards > > > ===== > > Chandresh Pant > URL: www.chandresh.org > email: chpant@yahoo.com, mail@chandresh.org, chandresh100@hotmail.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 17:03:12 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2ACDC4A0E5 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23703 invoked by uid 417); 4 Mar 2001 01:07:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BIG) (203.197.210.60) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 01:07:43 -0000 Message-ID: <01bc01c0a486$00128300$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: Subject: Re: Stop This or else Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:45:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/85 X-Sequence-Number: 2261 Alright !!!! We have a new agenda for the feb/march meet !!! > agreed > > You are being offensive to people because you are interacting with them > using e-mail. > Try being offensive with them when you see them physically. > > > > Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > > Mr Harshal You have been already told to remove this message from > > your mails. Its better you remove it and then send it to me > > because I am certainly not an intended recipent of your stupid shitty > questions Solutions to most disputes is an ALL OUT WAR ! cya all @ meet ! Amit. (ICQ Nick : Wargasm) From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 17:54:38 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 832454A06E for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10844A245 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 12:01:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([61.11.246.249]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f23IjoQ20786 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:15:50 +0530 Message-ID: <00fa01c0a411$308fbea0$3ff60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: References: <001801c0a3b4$26487f20$a6dc38ca@europa> Subject: Re: Certain calrifications Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:07:26 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/86 X-Sequence-Number: 2262 the debian in the network cds, as mentioned inside the magazine has kernel ver 2.2.18b but actually has 2.2.20 r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Certain calrifications > Hello, > > Any one viewing this please clarify following - > > (1) In terms of GUI and other add-on goodies > like servers, utilities and misc. tools, is DEBIAN LINUX > better than Red Hat Linux. > > (2) How come some members of the mailing list > have linux.org IDs? Is there any way I can get one > by fulfilling certain procedural requirements like > filling certain forms, etc. > > (3) Does DEBIAN Linux version given in > two CDs set with current Linux special > issue of Network Computing have the most > current version of Linux kernal 2.4.*? > > I like to end this message with a famous saying > of Socrates - > > "The only thing I know is that I know nothing" > > Thanks a Lot, > > Aditya Okhal > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 17:58:29 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655BD4A121 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id HAA0000017338; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:18:04 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01296; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:22:06 +0530 Message-Id: <200103040152.HAA01296@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sun Mar 4 07:22:06 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200103/87 X-Sequence-Number: 2263 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: mselva_kumar@rediffmail.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 18:09:17 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0CF4A14F for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id HAA0000001892; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:28:56 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01432; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:32:56 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15009.41552.578936.575055@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:32:56 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors In-Reply-To: <007101c0a410$40a71e60$d7d638ca@europa> References: <007101c0a410$40a71e60$d7d638ca@europa> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/88 X-Sequence-Number: 2264 Hi Aditya, Lighten up, dude. I run the Linux-Delhi web site. It's a shared site on a server, space and bandwidth kindly donated by Jai Bansal of Web Solutions. Initially Jai was charging Rs. 100/year for e-mail addresses on the site, not to make a profit but to just ensure that only serious people got an account there. However, I requested him to open it up, and now accounts are available to any member of Linux-Delhi. If you want one, send me a private message and I'll make your e-mail account. Couple of caveats: I prefer that the person asking for the account have shown /some/ commitment to the Linux movement. In other words, I'd prefer having met you at a Meet, or having read meaningful posts by you on the list before making the account. This is purely from the point of view of keeping ``account-leechers'' out of the system -- i.e. you would agree that we don't want people joining the Linux-Delhi mailing list for a week, getting an account and then dropping out once they have fulfilled their objective of getting a free POP account. I agree that the criteria are arbitrary and subjective, but as I own neither the server nor the traffic it's the fairest I can do under the circumstances. BTW, 190 words of silent protest? :-) Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal writes: Aditya> Hi, That bit about getting Linux e-mail IDs was Aditya> interesting. What you mean to say is that in this forum Aditya> which represents an attempt to extend the concept of open Aditya> and free software through Linux there is a hierarchy of Aditya> overseers. I am surprised that a person needs to beg to Aditya> get an e-mail ID. Aditya> What has happened to the pioneering spirit of intellectual Aditya> anarchism? Are we also slipping into a static, vertical Aditya> and linear structures of conventional bureaucratic Aditya> society. Aditya> I would have been much happier if Linux e-mail IDs would Aditya> have been freely available to all Linux movement Aditya> members. We signify an Idea of freedom of thought and Aditya> total rejection of the existing redundant intellectual Aditya> dogmas driven by Intellectual Property rights and Aditya> propreitory system encompassing predatory and regressive Aditya> mindset. At least we should be more open. Aditya> Finally, with disappointment I like to pose a question - Aditya> "Is the spirit of freedom and rebellion against the Aditya> existing techno imperialism behind the Linux revolution Aditya> and in the larger context Open and free software DEAD?" Aditya> That ends my silent protest. Aditya> With Regards, Aditya> Aditya Okhal -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 18:33:14 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9F14A0B0 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.200]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA07560 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:55:31 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9EFF8746; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:58:21 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:58:20 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Certain calrifications Message-ID: <20010304075820.A6058@black-satan> References: <001801c0a3b4$26487f20$a6dc38ca@europa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <001801c0a3b4$26487f20$a6dc38ca@europa>; from adityaokhal@mantraonline.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:02:48PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/89 X-Sequence-Number: 2265 On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:02:48PM +0530, Aditya Okhal wrote: >Hello, > >Any one viewing this please clarify following - > >(1) In terms of GUI and other add-on goodies >like servers, utilities and misc. tools, is DEBIAN LINUX >better than Red Hat Linux. Its not about Debian Linux being better then Redhat both come with the same utilities but the red hat 2 cd set is definately nothing compared to debian 4 cd set of course you can find rpm's for all the stuff that debian comes bundeled but you have to search lookout check dependencies and waste time to do that but with debian no need for such things you have a list of packages and if you want u can update that list. as the latest package list on the server and upgrade your distb frm the ftp servers itself. > >(2) How come some members of the mailing list >have linux.org IDs? Is there any way I can get one >by fulfilling certain procedural requirements like >filling certain forms, etc. > >(3) Does DEBIAN Linux version given in >two CDs set with current Linux special >issue of Network Computing have the most >current version of Linux kernal 2.4.*? NO, 2.2comes with 2.2.17 its stable but 2.4 can be downloaded. > >I like to end this message with a famous saying >of Socrates - > >"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" ;) > >Thanks a Lot, > >Aditya Okhal > > > > > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ---end quoted text--- -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 19:41:40 2001 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.197.233.66]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF53B4A286; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 19:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux-delhi.org (IDENT:vk@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00936; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:20:14 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA1BB75.48A16A71@linux-delhi.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:20:13 +0530 From: Krishnan Venkatachalam X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux delhi , linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Linux on an iBook- successful Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/90 X-Sequence-Number: 2266 We (Rahul Handa and I) managed to get Linux working on an iBook yesterday. I thought I would share some of the experience with the list. 1) GT Enterprises managed to ship a Linuxcentral "single CD" version of Yellowdoglinux 1.2 to me. 2) The worst part is getting to boot into linux after the install. The install itself is the standard redhat style text install. 3) The YDL CD had an error in the "Yaboot.conf". Yaboot is the dual bootup utility. For older Macs one can also use BootX. The correction was later found at http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/faq_solutions.shtml#boot Please do read this else you will NOT be able to boot up into Linux except from the Primary partition. Once this was done there was no problem at all. 4) Even X and the trackpad works straight off the install. Remember you have to choose the mouse as a "single button apple data bus type". 5) The one other problem we had was to get to the CMOS equivalent of the Mac. You have to hold down "command+option+P+R" to clear the NVRAM as soon as you power up. Then when you hear the boot up sound for three times and the screen goes white switch to "command +option+O+F" to get to the Open Firmware (CMOS setup for the Mac). Had a pleasent surprise when we found out that at the Open Firmware prompt one can use unix commands !!!. (Yes there is a nice prompt available in Open Firmware.) This ibook runs MacOS 9. 6) Partitioning too was a bit tricky. One has to use fdisk which actualy runs "pdisk". The trick is to delete the partitions and then start with the first free partition. If your last HFS (Mac type partition was say 09 and your free partition is say 10 then in pdisk type "10p" fir the "First Block" and for the length of the partition you can give the blocksize. For the next partition type "11p" and so on. Havent done much else at present. Takes a bit of reading to get to know the Mac internals but, loading YDL on an iBook has been great fun. Learnt a bit about mac internals too...thanks to Linux! So this is the second Mac that Ive installed Linux. The first was on an iMac during the "Linux Demo Day". But that was "LinuxPPC 1999 Q3". Plan to show this to all during the next LUG meet at Delhi. Raju please slot us in. ---VK From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 21:23:39 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DADF4A596 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 21:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000029190; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:43:11 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02748; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:47:07 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15009.53203.726361.215808@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:47:07 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Linux on an iBook- successful In-Reply-To: <3AA1BB75.48A16A71@linux-delhi.org> References: <3AA1BB75.48A16A71@linux-delhi.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/91 X-Sequence-Number: 2267 >>>>> "VK" == Krishnan Venkatachalam writes: VK> We (Rahul Handa and I) managed to get Linux working on an VK> iBook yesterday. Cool! VK> [snip] VK> Plan to show this to all during the next LUG meet at VK> Delhi. Raju please slot us in. Thou art slotted. Would you like to demo the install process or the running Linux? Install would be nice if you can manage it. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 22:12:23 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA78E49F04 for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:33:05 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:33:04 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C0091E@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: intersting info Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:43:15 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/92 X-Sequence-Number: 2268 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" well tell me , hotmail service runs on windows 2000 with iis 5.0 at least hotmail has been around for more than 3 years now and of course it goes without saying that the machines have been on for more than 49.7 days and havent gone down for even a while. Then how can one beilieve in the "interesting information which you gave". harshal vaidya. -----Original Message----- From: manish arya [mailto:manish_arya@graffiti.net] Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2001 19:05 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Cc: anuraganug@yahoo.com Subject: [linux-delhi] intersting info here is a bit of information which may surprise u. Windows crashes automatically if you don't switch off the machine for 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. Do you know why ? If not read this......................... In Windows the Virtual Machine Manager ( here after referred as VMM )is responsible for creation , execution , monitoring and termination of virtual machines. This VMM which is a 32 bit protected mode operating system , provides a number of system services at chip level of programming .One of these services is "Get_System_Time". This particular service loads the EAX register withthe time in milliseconds since Windows started .This service is accurate to 1 ms. EAX is a 32 bit register. So the maximum number ofmilliseconds it can hold is (2^32)-1 = 4294967295 milliseconds= 4294967.295 seconds= 71582.79 minutes = 1193 hours= 49.7 daysSo after 49.7 days the EAX resets to zero. Most of the Drivers use this Time Service to keep track of the Time out of various services they provide. So after 49.7 days the drives cannot use the get_System_Time function of VMM and they crash. So do not keep your machine on for more than 49.7 days. It will not only crash but make a big hole in the pocket (the electricity bill). -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 22:38:17 2001 Received: from tower.portal2.com (tower.portal2.com [202.77.223.18]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5075C4A2EA for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 22:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22639 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Mar 2001 06:32:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20010304063200.22638.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "manish arya" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:32:00 +0800 Subject: RE: intersting info X-Archive-Number: 200103/93 X-Sequence-Number: 2269 hi! Harshal , i was talking about windows9.X not about NT or 2000.and win2k is next of win NT gen not of win9X. and as far as hotmail is concerned go to http://freebsd.org and see there that hotmail runs on FreeBSD not on Win2k(i last visited freebsd site about 5 days ago) and yahoo too runs on FreeBSD manish -----Original Message----- From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:43:15 +0530 To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] intersting info > well tell me , > hotmail service runs on windows 2000 with iis 5.0 > at least hotmail has been around for more than 3 years now > and of course it goes without saying that the machines have been on for > more than 49.7 days and havent gone down for even a while. > Then how can one beilieve in the "interesting information which you gave". > > harshal vaidya. > > -----Original Message----- > From: manish arya [mailto:manish_arya@graffiti.net] > Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2001 19:05 > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Cc: anuraganug@yahoo.com > Subject: [linux-delhi] intersting info > > > here is a bit of information which may surprise u. > Windows crashes automatically if you don't switch > off the machine for 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. > Do you know why ? If not read this......................... > In Windows the Virtual Machine Manager ( here after > referred as VMM )is responsible for creation , > execution , monitoring and termination of virtual > machines. This VMM which is a 32 bit protected mode > operating system , provides a number of system > services at chip level of programming .One of these > services is "Get_System_Time". > This particular service loads the EAX register withthe time in > milliseconds since Windows started .This service is accurate to 1 ms. > EAX is a 32 bit register. So the maximum number ofmilliseconds it can hold > is > (2^32)-1 = 4294967295 milliseconds= 4294967.295 seconds= 71582.79 minutes > = 1193 hours= 49.7 daysSo after 49.7 days the EAX resets to zero. Most of > the Drivers use this Time Service to keep track of > the Time out of various services they provide. So > after 49.7 days the drives cannot use the > get_System_Time function of VMM and they crash. > So do not keep your machine on for more than 49.7 > days. It will not only crash but make a big hole in > the pocket (the electricity bill). > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > Powered by Outblaze > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 23:29:33 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B911B4A10B for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEJIXI01.B73 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2030 12:51:18 -0500 Received: from europa ([203.145.149.128]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9NWWT02.RMU; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:31:41 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c0a47b$f2fbe120$809591cb@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: , References: <007101c0a410$40a71e60$d7d638ca@europa> <15009.41552.578936.575055@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:52:56 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/94 X-Sequence-Number: 2270 Hi Raju, Thanks for take note of my opinion. I meant no offence. I certainly accept that I was vey direct. But then it was not meant to be taken personally. A word on the intellectual mumbo-jumbo. I meant what I had written. It was a bit of idealistic but then every movement has to have an idealistic component. It was a reaction of a person who believes in intellectual activism. We as Indians require a committment to be responsible citizens of this country. This requires a continuous effort on our parts to break out of age old 'SAB CHALTA HAI ATTITUDE'. I hope you understand. Now, a word on account opening. I will be honoured to be given the chance to open an account. Mind you, I am not short of POP3 accounts. At present I have two - One of mantraonline and other of Yahoo. Now, a word on committment. I am more than committed. Of course if you want to meet me you are welcome to my house. I stay in Alaknanda, New Delhi. Kindly guide me in the process of opening an account and then in the larger process of Linux enlightment. Thanks, With regards, Aditya Okhal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raju Mathur" To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 7:32 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] Certain Clarification - neil and all technowarriors > Hi Aditya, > > Lighten up, dude. > > I run the Linux-Delhi web site. It's a shared site on a server, space > and bandwidth kindly donated by Jai Bansal of Web Solutions. > Initially Jai was charging Rs. 100/year for e-mail addresses on the > site, not to make a profit but to just ensure that only serious people > got an account there. However, I requested him to open it up, and now > accounts are available to any member of Linux-Delhi. If you want one, > send me a private message and I'll make your e-mail account. > > Couple of caveats: I prefer that the person asking for the account > have shown /some/ commitment to the Linux movement. In other words, > I'd prefer having met you at a Meet, or having read meaningful posts > by you on the list before making the account. This is purely from the > point of view of keeping ``account-leechers'' out of the system -- > i.e. you would agree that we don't want people joining the Linux-Delhi > mailing list for a week, getting an account and then dropping out once > they have fulfilled their objective of getting a free POP account. I > agree that the criteria are arbitrary and subjective, but as I own > neither the server nor the traffic it's the fairest I can do under the > circumstances. > > BTW, 190 words of silent protest? :-) > > Regards, > > -- Raju > > >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal writes: > > Aditya> Hi, That bit about getting Linux e-mail IDs was > Aditya> interesting. What you mean to say is that in this forum > Aditya> which represents an attempt to extend the concept of open > Aditya> and free software through Linux there is a hierarchy of > Aditya> overseers. I am surprised that a person needs to beg to > Aditya> get an e-mail ID. > > Aditya> What has happened to the pioneering spirit of intellectual > Aditya> anarchism? Are we also slipping into a static, vertical > Aditya> and linear structures of conventional bureaucratic > Aditya> society. > > Aditya> I would have been much happier if Linux e-mail IDs would > Aditya> have been freely available to all Linux movement > Aditya> members. We signify an Idea of freedom of thought and > Aditya> total rejection of the existing redundant intellectual > Aditya> dogmas driven by Intellectual Property rights and > Aditya> propreitory system encompassing predatory and regressive > Aditya> mindset. At least we should be more open. > > Aditya> Finally, with disappointment I like to pose a question - > > Aditya> "Is the spirit of freedom and rebellion against the > Aditya> existing techno imperialism behind the Linux revolution > Aditya> and in the larger context Open and free software DEAD?" > > Aditya> That ends my silent protest. > > Aditya> With Regards, > > Aditya> Aditya Okhal > > -- > Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sat Mar 3 23:33:53 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F524A16F for ; Sat, 3 Mar 2001 23:33:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns77.docsis190.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.190.77] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14ZSvZ-0008He-00; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 01:27:37 -0600 Message-ID: <00bf01c0a47c$989b7a00$4dbe9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: Subject: SETI@home Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:27:36 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/95 X-Sequence-Number: 2271 Folks, The line is patched, up, and running. You may have some issues as pent-up demand hits the server, but wait an hour and retry. PS: Raju, watch me catch up. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 00:09:16 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6818349F5F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEJKRR01.974 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2030 13:31:03 -0500 Received: from europa ([203.145.149.128]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9NYR402.KNS for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:11:28 -0500 Message-ID: <00a901c0a481$822d09a0$809591cb@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Misunderstanding - Neil Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:32:49 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/96 X-Sequence-Number: 2272 Hi Neil, You have misunderstood me. I like humour. I just voiced my opinion. It was a description of a larger Idea of freedom of expression and Intellectual Utopia. It was not meant to be taken personally. I acknowledge my mistake in structuring the content and tone in my e-mail. It was too direct. All apologies from my side. I hope we meet sometime in future so that the personal perceptions are understood in one-to-one basis. I am a little bit disppointed that my humble opinion was referred to by you as crap. Thank You, With Regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 00:22:08 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8965749F63 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.150.5] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.150.5]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f248Fnt02107 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:15:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:17:50 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: "linux-delhi@lists. linux-india. org" Subject: Re: Connecting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/97 X-Sequence-Number: 2273 > i have just got myself a second computer(specifications: PIII 800,128mb > ram,intel 810 chipset motherboard) n i want to connect it to my first > computer. Please guide me in doing so. i wanna use both Linux(i have got > Redhat Linux 7.0) and Windows 2000.How can i access one through other?? hmmm... so u wanna b spoonfed... why dont u try reading stuff... for starters... learn how to configure samba(linux->win) and nfs(linux->linux) on both systems... thatll take care of all combinations. then if u hav problems... ill be glad to help. > I would also be grateful if you could recommend me a good LAN card which is > supported by most of the OSes (linux, Solaris 8 and Windows) i use intel pro10/100. its reliable and never gives any config problem as of rh5.2. but then, u can go in for almost any non-combo card and chances are that itll work. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 00:42:09 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372534A695 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ddp-12-117.ras226.mantraonline.com (ddp-12-117.mantraonline.com [202.56.226.117] (may be forged)) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f248Zet04461 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:35:41 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:37:04 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Misunderstanding - Neil In-Reply-To: <00a901c0a481$822d09a0$809591cb@europa> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/98 X-Sequence-Number: 2274 > am a little bit disppointed that my humble opinion was referred to by you > as crap. boy u never giv up. do u??? Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 01:00:42 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06E6A4A119 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:21:01 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:21:01 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00924@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: intersting info Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:31:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/99 X-Sequence-Number: 2275 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" pal, go to netcraft.com and verify that hotmail runs on windows2000/IIS5.0 hotmail used to run on freebsd but no longer does. harshal vaidya. -----Original Message----- From: manish arya [mailto:manish_arya@graffiti.net] Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2001 12:02 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] intersting info hi! Harshal , i was talking about windows9.X not about NT or 2000.and win2k is next of win NT gen not of win9X. and as far as hotmail is concerned go to http://freebsd.org and see there that hotmail runs on FreeBSD not on Win2k(i last visited freebsd site about 5 days ago) and yahoo too runs on FreeBSD manish -----Original Message----- From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:43:15 +0530 To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] intersting info > well tell me , > hotmail service runs on windows 2000 with iis 5.0 > at least hotmail has been around for more than 3 years now > and of course it goes without saying that the machines have been on for > more than 49.7 days and havent gone down for even a while. > Then how can one beilieve in the "interesting information which you gave". > > harshal vaidya. > > -----Original Message----- > From: manish arya [mailto:manish_arya@graffiti.net] > Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2001 19:05 > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Cc: anuraganug@yahoo.com > Subject: [linux-delhi] intersting info > > > here is a bit of information which may surprise u. > Windows crashes automatically if you don't switch > off the machine for 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. > Do you know why ? If not read this......................... > In Windows the Virtual Machine Manager ( here after > referred as VMM )is responsible for creation , > execution , monitoring and termination of virtual > machines. This VMM which is a 32 bit protected mode > operating system , provides a number of system > services at chip level of programming .One of these > services is "Get_System_Time". > This particular service loads the EAX register withthe time in > milliseconds since Windows started .This service is accurate to 1 ms. > EAX is a 32 bit register. So the maximum number ofmilliseconds it can hold > is > (2^32)-1 = 4294967295 milliseconds= 4294967.295 seconds= 71582.79 minutes > = 1193 hours= 49.7 daysSo after 49.7 days the EAX resets to zero. Most of > the Drivers use this Time Service to keep track of > the Time out of various services they provide. So > after 49.7 days the drives cannot use the > get_System_Time function of VMM and they crash. > So do not keep your machine on for more than 49.7 > days. It will not only crash but make a big hole in > the pocket (the electricity bill). > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > Powered by Outblaze > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------------------------ The mailing list archives are available at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 01:12:20 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804F54A15F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 01:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEJNP001.97H for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2030 14:34:12 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.214.223]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9O1OB02.ANB for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 04:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <004101c0a48a$538151c0$dfd638ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Giving Up Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:34:35 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/100 X-Sequence-Number: 2276 Hi Folks, I am burrying my hatchet. Let peace be the order of the day. No more side cuts from my side. Bye. With Regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 04:20:21 2001 Received: from false.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.225]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936504A1B6 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 04:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [202.71.134.75] (helo=hork) by false.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.21 #1) id 14ZXNm-0001zD-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:43:03 +0530 Message-ID: <078501c0a4a4$702d4260$4b8647ca@hork> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: "Delhi" References: <003501c0a185$af1fe800$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> Subject: Re: software for local mail Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:42:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/101 X-Sequence-Number: 2277 There are many but these 2 do a real great job qpopper for pop3 and thinmailer for web interface they are fine for local as well as internet mail Regards Sunil Dhaka From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 07:07:16 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 140214A1E3 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11362 invoked by uid 417); 4 Mar 2001 15:11:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BIG) (202.54.100.153) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 15:11:49 -0000 Message-ID: <006a01c0a498$5ff65fa0$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <01bc01c0a486$00128300$010811ac@BIG> Subject: Re: Mysql Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:16:23 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/102 X-Sequence-Number: 2278 Ok, we'll see about the fight in the meet. for now..help me ! ;o) I wanna setup a very simple database of user infomation name,address, email etc in mysql. Now The passwords for this db i wanna store in mysql(lemme know of a better way) Now once the user has created an account. suppose he wants to change some info. Now since Mysql does not permit.row based user rights.(minimum is table based) what i do is.....I create a temp table in the db with his session id. give him insert/delete/select etc rights on this table. and he can right to this table and then later on the content s will be transfered to....the main table. Is there a better way of accomplishing this ? What i wanna avoid is. To create the temp table i have to print the username and password of one user in my cgi application. What i want is that a user in mysql should be such that.. 1. He can Insert into the userinformation table. 2. He can modify the contents of all coloumns in userinfomation table where userid=hisuserid. I am sure all web programmers here must have done such a thing. Since i am a bit weak in databases. please help me. cya ! Amit From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 07:47:22 2001 Received: from delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (del3.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.3]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A9649F4D for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from v ([203.197.203.36]) by delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA28857 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:09:43 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <003e01c0a4c1$d31b50c0$24cbc5cb@v> Reply-To: "Vipul Mathur" From: "Vipul Mathur" To: References: <00bf01c0a47c$989b7a00$4dbe9cca@fluff> Subject: Re: SETI@home Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:10:56 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/103 X-Sequence-Number: 2279 Hi Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > The line is patched, up, and running. > You may have some issues as pent-up demand hits the server, but wait an hour > and retry. Ya I noticed that their servers are finally up... > PS: Raju, watch me catch up. So how many PCs are you running setiathome on?? You shot up the rankings pretty fas far as I can recall... Cheerio! -- Vipul Mathur ----------------------------,_,------------------------------------ (O,O) http://www.vipulonline.com/ ( ) The Geek shall inherit the Earth ----------------------------"-"------------------------------------ Intel Inside: The world's most commonly used warning label From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 08:17:45 2001 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.197.226.85]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404DC49F62 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux-delhi.org (IDENT:vk@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00877 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:24:22 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA22CEE.3BE2B62E@linux-delhi.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:24:22 +0530 From: Krishnan Venkatachalam X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux delhi Subject: Re: Linux on an iBook- successful References: <3AA1BB75.48A16A71@linux-delhi.org> <15009.53203.726361.215808@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/104 X-Sequence-Number: 2280 Raju Mathur wrote: > Thou art slotted. Would you like to demo the install process or the > running Linux? Install would be nice if you can manage it. Sure thing. Install it is. ---VK From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 08:17:56 2001 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [203.197.226.85]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FBC49F62 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux-delhi.org (IDENT:vk@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00934 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:39:13 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA23069.1737E1E4@linux-delhi.org> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 17:39:13 +0530 From: Krishnan Venkatachalam X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-20 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/105 X-Sequence-Number: 2281 Yes Ive seen the Spectranet connection. Few thoughts though. The cable connection is a shared medium. Hence guaranteed 64K of 128K access is perhaps difficult to ensure. I spoke to the spectranet guys. They said that they have worked out the figure statistically. I believe that Spectra has a 8MB to VSNL. (if recently increased , I wouldnt know). Given this figure Spectra should limit their subscribers to a max of 240 subscribers (assuming all to be 64K), and add more bandwidth as more subscribers joinup. I am not clear as to how Spectra is honouring their Service Level Agreement. BTW Spectra has been bought by Bharathi. So there. All in all the cable modem is not a bad deal at all. Works out cheaper if one uses a telephone dialup for more than 1H 30 Min a day. How has your experience been with Spectra ? So maybe I will give them a try as they are available in my neighbourhood. ---VK From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 08:32:33 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BAC49F63 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:32:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id VAA0000001905; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:51:36 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02554; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:16:33 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15010.25433.50010.13031@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:16:33 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Mysql In-Reply-To: <006a01c0a498$5ff65fa0$010811ac@BIG> References: <01bc01c0a486$00128300$010811ac@BIG> <006a01c0a498$5ff65fa0$010811ac@BIG> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/106 X-Sequence-Number: 2282 Hi Amit, I guess there're atleast a couple of other ways of accomplishing this apart from what you've outlined: 1. Let the script have root access to MySQL. Alternatively, let the script have full rights through a special user-ID on the table. 2. Let the user have full rights on the table. There shouldn't be a problem with permissions since all updates will be done under control of your program. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Amit" == Amit Soni writes: Amit> Ok, we'll see about the fight in the meet. for now..help me Amit> ! ;o) Amit> I wanna setup a very simple database of user infomation Amit> name,address, email etc in mysql. Amit> Now The passwords for this db i wanna store in mysql(lemme Amit> know of a better way) Amit> Now once the user has created an account. suppose he wants Amit> to change some info. Amit> Now since Mysql does not permit.row based user Amit> rights.(minimum is table based) Amit> what i do is.....I create a temp table in the db with his Amit> session id. give him insert/delete/select etc rights on this Amit> table. and he can right to this table and then later on the Amit> content s will be transfered to....the main table. Amit> Is there a better way of accomplishing this ? Amit> What i wanna avoid is. To create the temp table i have to Amit> print the username and password of one user in my cgi Amit> application. Amit> What i want is that a user in mysql should be such that.. Amit> 1. He can Insert into the userinformation table. 2. He can Amit> modify the contents of all coloumns in userinfomation table Amit> where userid=hisuserid. Amit> I am sure all web programmers here must have done such a Amit> thing. Since i am a bit weak in databases. please help me. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 08:52:33 2001 Received: from butthead.crano.com (unknown [61.11.24.163]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA134A259 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ankur.imaginix.net by crano.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.1.R) for ; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:39:23 +0530 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304220851.00a79c90@crano.net> X-Sender: ankz@203.197.236.154 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 22:14:42 +0530 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org From: Ankur Rohatgi Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: <3AA23069.1737E1E4@linux-delhi.org> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Return-Path: ankur@imaginix.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-Archive-Number: 200103/107 X-Sequence-Number: 2283 Hi , Well firstly spectra has not yet been bought , Bharti has offered to buy but as i learnt from someone who is known to the Punj family , they have not accepted . Shared access yes , and i have seen the transfer fluctuate during different times of the day . Though i firmly beleive in the commitment of Spectra to provide this service and i have seen them perform whenever there was a problem . I have been told that sometime this summer their gateway will be functional and then i think things should be better . All in all , having tried Spectra , Dishnet and Incable , i would recommend Spectra as the most stable and serious of the lot. The one thing that really annoyed me was that they have configured our NICs MAC address in their router and if you change your card then you have to inform them by fax or email and takes a couple of hours for them to reset the address so you can re register. - Ankur. At 05:39 PM 3/4/2001, you wrote: >Yes Ive seen the Spectranet connection. Few thoughts though. > >The cable connection is a shared medium. Hence guaranteed 64K of 128K >access is perhaps difficult to ensure. I spoke to the spectranet guys. >They said that they have worked out the figure statistically. I believe >that Spectra has a 8MB to VSNL. (if recently increased , I wouldnt >know). Given this figure Spectra should limit their subscribers to a max >of 240 subscribers (assuming all to be 64K), and add more bandwidth as >more subscribers joinup. I am not clear as to how Spectra is honouring >their Service Level Agreement. > >BTW Spectra has been bought by Bharathi. So there. > > >All in all the cable modem is not a bad deal at all. Works out cheaper >if one uses a telephone dialup for more than 1H 30 Min a day. > >How has your experience been with Spectra ? So maybe I will give them a >try as they are available in my neighbourhood. > > >---VK > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 09:00:29 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0711A4A1E2 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:00:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F1C24A115 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12869 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 16:34:54 -0000 Received: from p3e9bdd46.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO gmx.de) (62.155.221.70) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 16:34:54 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA264EF.40687850@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:53:19 +0100 From: Thomas Brandt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: CGI at geocities Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/108 X-Sequence-Number: 2284 Hi Saurabh ! I somewhere found a note that you are/were trying to execute a cgi-program at your geocities homepage. I just started to try this too. And I need some info. Maybe you can help me. I need the path for my $date and $mailprog - variable. Can you help me ? At the moment they're set to $date = `/bin/date`;chop($date); $mailprog = '/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject'; Thanks for your help. -- bye Thomas From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 10:49:19 2001 Received: from delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (delcluster1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.96.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480034A1F2 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:48:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from tuxspace.com ([203.197.204.224]) by delcluster1.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA10326 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:10:37 -0500 (GMT) Message-ID: <3AA28CFF.E0BC8B49@tuxspace.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 00:14:15 +0530 From: Manish Kathuria Organization: Tux Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: intersting info References: <20010304063200.22638.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/109 X-Sequence-Number: 2285 Hotmail is indeed on Windows 2000 and IIS 5. It was on Free BSD and Apache until June 2000. You may check that out at http://www.netcraft.com/ for both hotmail.com and lc1.law5.hotmail.passport.com - Manish manish arya wrote: > > hi! > Harshal , i was talking about windows9.X not about NT or 2000.and win2k is next of win NT gen not of win9X. > and as far as hotmail is concerned go to http://freebsd.org and see there that hotmail runs on FreeBSD not on Win2k(i last visited freebsd site about 5 days ago) > > and yahoo too runs on FreeBSD > > manish > -----Original Message----- > From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:43:15 +0530 > To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" > Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] intersting info > > > well tell me , > > hotmail service runs on windows 2000 with iis 5.0 > > at least hotmail has been around for more than 3 years now > > and of course it goes without saying that the machines have been on for > > more than 49.7 days and havent gone down for even a while. > > Then how can one beilieve in the "interesting information which you gave". > > > > harshal vaidya. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: manish arya [mailto:manish_arya@graffiti.net] > > Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2001 19:05 > > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > > Cc: anuraganug@yahoo.com > > Subject: [linux-delhi] intersting info > > > > > > here is a bit of information which may surprise u. > > Windows crashes automatically if you don't switch > > off the machine for 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. > > Do you know why ? If not read this......................... > > In Windows the Virtual Machine Manager ( here after > > referred as VMM )is responsible for creation , > > execution , monitoring and termination of virtual > > machines. This VMM which is a 32 bit protected mode > > operating system , provides a number of system > > services at chip level of programming .One of these > > services is "Get_System_Time". > > This particular service loads the EAX register withthe time in > > milliseconds since Windows started .This service is accurate to 1 ms. > > EAX is a 32 bit register. So the maximum number ofmilliseconds it can hold > > is > > (2^32)-1 = 4294967295 milliseconds= 4294967.295 seconds= 71582.79 minutes > > = 1193 hours= 49.7 daysSo after 49.7 days the EAX resets to zero. Most of > > the Drivers use this Time Service to keep track of > > the Time out of various services they provide. So > > after 49.7 days the drives cannot use the > > get_System_Time function of VMM and they crash. > > So do not keep your machine on for more than 49.7 > > days. It will not only crash but make a big hole in > > the pocket (the electricity bill). > > -- > > ____ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 11:08:42 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [203.195.140.228]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC0A4A00F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:08:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f24JDEC10710; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:43:14 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: intersting info References: <20010304063200.22638.qmail@graffiti.net> <3AA28CFF.E0BC8B49@tuxspace.com> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 05 Mar 2001 00:43:14 +0530 In-Reply-To: <3AA28CFF.E0BC8B49@tuxspace.com> Message-ID: Lines: 97 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/110 X-Sequence-Number: 2286 Hello Manish, Harshal and others, All this is really old news. The 49 day bug is known since 3 years and is supposedly fixed now (who runs a win95 machine for even a day anyway?). Regarding Hotmail, Microsoft HAD to move it to IIS/2000 because they could'nt run it on a competitor product. However, by doing it, they have made hotmail slow as crap. I'm glad I ducked out at the right time. It's really funny to see the great lenghts M$ can go to avoid competitor products. They just make one of their own. MS Exchange was first used by Microsoft at their own site, and it crashed so much, their employees starting taking it as an excuse to not having recieved emails. And some time back, Microsoft announced a News Server, and with a hype that it was a great invention. Probably MS never heard of INN, huh? But, unfortunately, hype can do a lot. Hype can make managers buy crappy stuff. This is what MS has being doing for so long. Ironically, their best product ever (windows 2000) isn't doing so well. Heard of the old story? Tell lies 100 times, then even a truth will be taken as a lie ;-) Also, IBM is to linux rescue. Apart from a $1 Billion promise on Linux, it is heavily advertising it too. Check this out: http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/linux/passport.swf Bye, Lokesh. >>>>> "Manish" == Manish Kathuria writes: Manish> Hotmail is indeed on Windows 2000 and IIS 5. It was on Manish> Free BSD and Apache until June 2000. You may check that Manish> out at http://www.netcraft.com/ for both hotmail.com and Manish> lc1.law5.hotmail.passport.com Manish> - Manish Manish> manish arya wrote: >> hi! Harshal , i was talking about windows9.X not about NT or >> 2000.and win2k is next of win NT gen not of win9X. and as far >> as hotmail is concerned go to http://freebsd.org and see there >> that hotmail runs on FreeBSD not on Win2k(i last visited >> freebsd site about 5 days ago) >> >> and yahoo too runs on FreeBSD >> >> manish -----Original Message----- From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" >> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:43:15 >> +0530 To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" >> Subject: RE: [linux-delhi] >> intersting info >> >> > well tell me , > hotmail service runs on windows 2000 with >> iis 5.0 > at least hotmail has been around for more than 3 >> years now > and of course it goes without saying that the >> machines have been on for > more than 49.7 days and havent gone >> down for even a while. > Then how can one beilieve in the >> "interesting information which you gave". >> > >> > harshal vaidya. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > From: manish arya >> [mailto:manish_arya@graffiti.net] > Sent: Saturday, 3 March >> 2001 19:05 > To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org > Cc: >> anuraganug@yahoo.com > Subject: [linux-delhi] intersting info >> > >> > >> > here is a bit of information which may surprise u. > Windows >> crashes automatically if you don't switch > off the machine for >> 49.7 days .This is accepted byMicrosoft. > Do you know why ? >> If not read this......................... > In Windows the >> Virtual Machine Manager ( here after > referred as VMM )is >> responsible for creation , > execution , monitoring and >> termination of virtual > machines. This VMM which is a 32 bit >> protected mode > operating system , provides a number of system >> > services at chip level of programming .One of these > >> services is "Get_System_Time". > This particular service loads >> the EAX register withthe time in > milliseconds since Windows >> started .This service is accurate to 1 ms. > EAX is a 32 bit >> register. So the maximum number ofmilliseconds it can hold > is >> > (2^32)-1 = 4294967295 milliseconds= 4294967.295 seconds= >> 71582.79 minutes > = 1193 hours= 49.7 daysSo after 49.7 days >> the EAX resets to zero. Most of > the Drivers use this Time >> Service to keep track of > the Time out of various services >> they provide. So > after 49.7 days the drives cannot use the > >> get_System_Time function of VMM and they crash. > So do not >> keep your machine on for more than 49.7 > days. It will not >> only crash but make a big hole in > the pocket (the electricity >> bill). > -- > ____ -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 11:18:12 2001 Received: from dadel1.now-india.net.in (del1.now-india.net.in [203.195.128.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09DE94A00F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.195.135.139]) by dadel1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id G9OT9904.K0J for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:40:21 +0530 Received: (qmail 1303 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2001 18:48:21 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:18:21 +0530 From: Sandip Bhattacharya To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem Message-ID: <20010305001821.A1297@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> <3AA23069.1737E1E4@linux-delhi.org> <5.0.0.25.2.20010304220851.00a79c90@crano.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304220851.00a79c90@crano.net>; from ankur@imaginix.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:14:42PM +0530 X-HomePage: http://www.sandipb.net X-OS: Linux kajaal.home 2.4.2 i586 unknown X-Archive-Number: 200103/111 X-Sequence-Number: 2287 Hi ! One thing I got to know. In the latest issue of PCQuest, they have reviewed a cable net service(i think mantra or something). The one thing that hit me a lot from the review, was the fact that if a couple of folks living closeby take a connection, these cable folks put up a router instead of a direct connection, and provide access via NAT addressing, somewhat like a local LAN among these houses. Damn! With a hardware router in place, there goes all your hopes of Napster, Quake and other server-initiated non-standard TCP/UDP protocols , and no way of adding "modules" to let you do so. This sounds terribly like my office! Is such a thing actually happening?? Regards, Sandip -- ------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb @ bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net ------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 11:32:29 2001 Received: from dadel1.now-india.net.in (del1.now-india.net.in [203.195.128.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446E34A070 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.195.135.230]) by dadel1.now-india.net.in (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id G9OTXA02.R0F for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:54:46 +0530 Received: (qmail 1566 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2001 19:28:22 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:58:22 +0530 From: Sandip Bhattacharya To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: intersting info Message-ID: <20010305005822.A1558@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <20010304063200.22638.qmail@graffiti.net> <3AA28CFF.E0BC8B49@tuxspace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from lsetia78@yahoo.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:43:14AM +0530 X-HomePage: http://www.sandipb.net X-OS: Linux kajaal.home 2.4.2 i586 unknown X-Archive-Number: 200103/112 X-Sequence-Number: 2288 Hi! I think you folks are overlooking what Hotmail is about. Hotmail comprises of database servers, web servers, mail servers , and all different kind of servers(hundreds of them, i mean quantity not type) to get the whole show moving. What you saw by using the Netcraft HTTP header parser on hotmail.com and lc1.law5.hotmail.passport.com was only their Web servers. For goodness sake, give M$ a little credit will you? After all these years they could make a Web server running at a stretch for a month or two!! It would be lot more interesting to find out the rest of the servers that they use. From what I heard, Hotmail(and yahoo, egroups etc.) uses qmail for their mail. And Qmail runs *only* on unix systems. I am really interested which database they are running! Surely it can't be MSSQl!! They would need it running on a Cray machine to handle Hotmail! A link that I had once come across(has since been taken down) describes the initial few days after Hotmail was bought by M$. It seems they HAD immedietly tried to run it in IIS, but the downtimes forced them to move over to Solaris(not FreeBSD). Yahoo runs proudly on FreeBSD any way, and so does ftp.freesoftware.com. Regards, Sandip -- ------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb @ bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net ------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 11:38:33 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206074A174 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEK88P01.295 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2030 21:58:01 -0500 Received: from europa ([203.145.149.46]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9OIIO00.NPA; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:18:24 -0500 Message-ID: <004401c0a4bd$25f8a400$2e9591cb@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Cc: , Subject: Free Software - To continue the debate Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:39:44 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/113 X-Sequence-Number: 2289 Free Software - A Slice of things to come - I have been reading very interesting ideas on free software in context of market economy. I feel that the arguement on the validity and sustainability of the free software model in context of market economy is valid only when we regard that the market economy is the ultimate and highest form of evolution of human society. The concept of Intellectual property rights has a major problem. It seeks to divide the world in basically two groups - One being Inventive, Innovative and Technologically forever evolving. I refer to this group as the world driver. It drives the technological and evolutionary momentum of the World. It creates concepts and to be forever at the forefront re-creates new concepts. Here the fundamental principle is domination through technological superiority. The Other group being of technologically poor societys. Here there is very little Innovation and Invention due to limitation of resources. Ironically, limitation of resources is due to poor technological leadership. In such pockets of world, the flow of new Ideas is next to none. Also, technological assimilation and adaption is poor. Hence, its like a vicious circle. Now, in current scenario, the technologically superior group through never ending Innovation limits the Innovative space of the technologically inferior follower group. These days most Innovations are at the high end. Work at such a level requires a certain set of resources which the technologically inferior group can't provide. This is creating a deep disparity in the World. The disparity is further deepened by the instruements of market economy like Patents or Intellectual property(IP). IP has created a new form of imperalism, which can be referred to as Technological imperialism. Big corporations are creating new products and selling them at higher and higher prices. Take the example of AIDS drugs cocktail in case of Africa. Such a state of affairs is creating a deeply divided and poor world. Technology is proving to be new master. Its deputies are its facilitators. They are facilitating it for world technological domination. Big corporations are becoming more powerful than world governments. Such a state of affairs is not sustainable. I feel technology will lead to creation of an alternate economic system. A system better than the present profit driven market economy system, which is based on Darwinian concept of survival of the fittest. It will be more open system. I think Open and free software movement is the precursor to the type of things to come. In new knowledge society man will be able to transcend the grossness of material sphere of existence. To end it, I just want to say that market economy like every other economic system before it is a stage of evolution and social transition. A new and better system is in wings where knowledge will be more easily available and technology more humanised. With Regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 11:38:45 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60624A174 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEKA5Y00.E9K for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2030 22:39:34 -0500 Received: from europa ([203.145.150.185]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9OO5C00.IP9 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:20:00 -0500 Message-ID: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Fuck this mailing list Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:41:16 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/114 X-Sequence-Number: 2290 How come messages I am posting are not showing up. If you are trying to block my messages then fuck this mailing list. Its being run and monopolised by couple of psuedo experts who can't take a piece of criticism. Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. Enough of your shitty and mighty attitude. TO hell with you. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 12:01:39 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [203.195.142.64]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7914A1B5 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f24K6DQ16845; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:36:13 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Fuck this mailing list References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 05 Mar 2001 01:36:13 +0530 In-Reply-To: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> Message-ID: Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/115 X-Sequence-Number: 2291 Yes, you're right. We've blocked all mails from MS-Outlook users. Time to switch to EMACS, right? Seriously though, I don't know which message you're talking about, but this message surely reached me. Lokesh. >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal writes: Aditya> How come messages I am posting are not showing up. If you Aditya> are trying to block my messages then fuck this mailing Aditya> list. Its being run and monopolised by couple of psuedo Aditya> experts who can't take a piece of criticism. Aditya> Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. Enough Aditya> of your shitty and mighty attitude. TO hell with you. -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 13:22:13 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F8424A15B for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5601 invoked by uid 417); 4 Mar 2001 21:26:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BIG) (203.197.199.254) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 21:26:45 -0000 Message-ID: <003f01c0a4a3$a6f62e70$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> Subject: Re: Fuck this mailing list Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:37:02 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/116 X-Sequence-Number: 2292 U know what ? The only reason that come to my mind is that u r writing to mailto:raju@linux-delhi.org instead of linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org and i think those messages (raju@linux-delhi) cant reach the list unless raju forwards them manually. ...right ? I may be rong though. But 1 thing. If u thought that ur messages were being rejected out right..... whom were u abusing...i mean no one could have read them ! > Subject: [linux-delhi] Fuck this mailing list > How come messages I am posting are not showing up. > If you are trying to block my messages then fuck this > mailing list. Its being run and monopolised by couple > of psuedo experts who can't take a piece of criticism. > > Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. > Enough of your shitty and mighty attitude. > TO hell with you. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 19:38:15 2001 Received: from smtp.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.33]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64FA949F1E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [202.71.133.26] (helo=node5) by smtp.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 14Zlkl-0000CT-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:03:44 +0530 Message-ID: <001e01c0a525$92f55ae0$01a8a8c0@node5> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> <003f01c0a4a3$a6f62e70$010811ac@BIG> Subject: Fuck this mailing list Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:07:14 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/117 X-Sequence-Number: 2293 > > Subject: [linux-delhi] Fuck this mailing list > > How come messages I am posting are not showing up. > > If you are trying to block my messages then fuck this > > mailing list. Its being run and monopolised by couple > > of psuedo experts who can't take a piece of criticism. > > > > Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. > > Enough of your shitty and mighty attitude. > > TO hell with you. Thanks for not staying with this mailing list. We are sure we don't need people like you. Regards, Sunil Dhaka From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 19:41:37 2001 Received: from smtp.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.33]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B161F4A183 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [202.71.133.26] (helo=node5) by smtp.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 14Zlo2-0000DN-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 09:07:07 +0530 Message-ID: <002401c0a526$0c4a2560$01a8a8c0@node5> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> Subject: Okhal Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:10:38 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/118 X-Sequence-Number: 2294 Well Mr. Okhal, In the first place you did not follow some basic etiquettes. Asking for an automated receipt for every post of yours is a definite NO NO !! Secondly ... resorting to abusive language on the list needs outright banishment ! Regards, Sunil Dhaka From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 20:55:23 2001 Received: from web4103.mail.yahoo.com (web4103.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.123]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 545DA4A2D3 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:55:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010305044905.18236.qmail@web4103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.27.105] by web4103.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:49:05 PST Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:49:05 -0800 (PST) From: Chandresh Pant Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <20010303184404.C1918@black-satan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/119 X-Sequence-Number: 2295 Dear Pankaj Kaushal THanx a lot! Regards ===== Chandresh Pant URL : www.chandresh.org email: chpant@yahoo, mail@chandresh.org, chpant@rediffmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 21:08:36 2001 Received: from MailAndNews.com (unknown [199.29.68.123]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F6A4A14D for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from system2 [203.190.131.2] (vikcy@MailAndNews.com) by MailAndNews.com; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:59:26 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Sun, 4 Mar 01 23:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: <012b01c0a531$67db9c00$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> From: "Vikram Sachdeva" To: "Linux" Subject: local mailing troubles Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:31:46 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0128_01C0A55F.7AE6DC00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/120 X-Sequence-Number: 2296 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C0A55F.7AE6DC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i am unable to mail between 2 linux boxes by just doing mail vikram@ip of other linux box The mail is bounced back and the msg i get is attached along this mail. But i am able to send mail outside the network by doing mail xyz@hotmail.com Bye ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C0A55F.7AE6DC00 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="mbox.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mbox.dat" =46rom root Fri Mar 2 19:56:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost) by vikram.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f22EQ7a01510; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:07 +0530 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:07 +0530 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem Message-Id: <200103021426.f22EQ7a01510@vikram.com> To: root@vikram.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=3Ddelivery-status; boundary=3D"f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com" Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) Status: RO This is a MIME-encapsulated message --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com The original message was received at Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 from root@localhost ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- vikram@192.168.1.216 (reason: 550 Host unknown) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 5.1.2 vikram@192.168.1.216... Host unknown (Name server: 192.168.1.216:= host not found) --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; vikram.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 Final-Recipient: RFC822; vikram@192.168.1.216 Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: DNS; 192.168.1.216 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 Host unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:07 +0530 --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by vikram.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f22EQ5b01508 for vikram@192.168.1.216; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 19:56:05 +0530 From: root Message-Id: <200103021426.f22EQ5b01508@vikram.com> To: vikram@192.168.1.216 Subject: Tester This is the test mail Bye --f22EQ7a01510.983543167/vikram.com-- ------=_NextPart_000_0128_01C0A55F.7AE6DC00-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 21:25:22 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A4549F4D for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9QELD00.G2T for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:48:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 18:14:37 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/121 X-Sequence-Number: 2297 Hi, > I personaly like Freebsd very much but don't use it because of the > license. Its not GPL and I am in love with the GPL. this is the funniest reason that i hav heard for not using freebsd. I agree that as a programmer contributing to open source software, license issues are very imp (with bsd and gpl being the 2 most popular ones i guess), but definately it shud not take u away from using the os!! The bsd license allows u to do everything that the gpl allows (and if i understand it correctly.. if u make changes, then u can put those changes under gpl!! correct me if i am wrong!) and more! Tell me one thing, don't u use apache under linux! even apache has the same licence as freebsd! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 21:30:59 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27904A36E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000029102; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:50:10 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03290; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:19:36 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15010.29216.319637.491288@localhost.localdomain> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:19:36 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: <3AA23069.1737E1E4@linux-delhi.org> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> <3AA23069.1737E1E4@linux-delhi.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/122 X-Sequence-Number: 2298 >>>>> "VK" == Krishnan Venkatachalam writes: VK> Yes Ive seen the Spectranet connection. Few thoughts though. VK> The cable connection is a shared medium. Hence guaranteed 64K VK> of 128K access is perhaps difficult to ensure. I spoke to the VK> spectranet guys. They said that they have worked out the VK> figure statistically. I believe that Spectra has a 8MB to VK> VSNL. (if recently increased , I wouldnt know). Given this VK> figure Spectra should limit their subscribers to a max of 240 VK> subscribers (assuming all to be 64K), and add more bandwidth VK> as more subscribers joinup. I am not clear as to how Spectra VK> is honouring their Service Level Agreement. I talked to Spectra and they refused to talk about a Service Level Agreement at all. Given that they're among the more expensive of the Cable/DSL lot, I see no reason to go with them, especially given their snooty and condescending attitudes (yeah, it's an ego thing ;-) I've decided to go in for a 10BaseT UTP from my local cable-wallah -- at least I can go kick his a** when the service quality drops :) VK> [snip] Regards, -- Raju -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 21:32:23 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951784A27F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000013461; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:51:12 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01212; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:55:15 +0530 Message-Id: <200103050525.KAA01212@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Mon Mar 5 10:55:15 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200103/123 X-Sequence-Number: 2299 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: sam16.young@softhome.net If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 21:39:40 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6A54A181 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000001213; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:59:08 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA01445; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:03:10 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15011.9494.273889.37943@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:03:10 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: F*ck this mailing list In-Reply-To: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/124 X-Sequence-Number: 2300 Well, seems like your messages /do/ come through to the list. Of course, staying on the list or not are your personal choice. I don't want to influence you one way or the other. I would like to ask you if you ever received a bounce message from the list -- Linux-Delhi doesn't accept HTML messages, duplicate messages, overlarge messages or messages which have too many recipients by default, which you would have known if you read the mailing list rules at http://www.linux-delhi.org/ As for your invective, I think we can treat it with the contempt it deserves. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal writes: Aditya> How come messages I am posting are not showing up. If you Aditya> are trying to block my messages then f*ck this mailing Aditya> list. Its being run and monopolised by couple of psuedo Aditya> experts who can't take a piece of criticism. Aditya> F*ck you all. What gives you right to be masters. Enough Aditya> of your shitty and mighty attitude. TO hell with you. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 21:54:52 2001 Received: from butthead.crano.com (unknown [61.11.24.163]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E244A2F4 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ankur.imaginix.net by crano.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.1.R) for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:42:09 +0530 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20010305111508.00a79d70@crano.net> X-Sender: ankz@203.197.236.154 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:17:32 +0530 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org From: Ankur Rohatgi Subject: Re: Cable modem In-Reply-To: <20010305001821.A1297@bigfoot.com> References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304220851.00a79c90@crano.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> <3AA23069.1737E1E4@linux-delhi.org> <5.0.0.25.2.20010304220851.00a79c90@crano.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Return-Path: ankur@imaginix.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-Archive-Number: 200103/125 X-Sequence-Number: 2301 Hi , Well Incable uses a private IP dhcp server and they use NAT from there . You will have no problems for services originating from your side . Napster etc work great , no problem . The only thing you cant do is host stuff on your machine , because you wont have an IP to give people to connect to. Spectra gives a proper IP address thats dynamic and Dishnet gives a static IP . - Ankur. At 12:18 AM 3/5/2001, you wrote: >Hi ! > >One thing I got to know. In the latest issue of PCQuest, they have >reviewed a cable net service(i think mantra or something). The one >thing that hit me a lot from the review, was the fact that if a couple >of folks living closeby take a connection, these cable folks put up a >router instead of a direct connection, and provide access via >NAT addressing, somewhat like a local LAN among these houses. Damn! >With a hardware router in place, there goes all your hopes >of Napster, Quake and other server-initiated non-standard TCP/UDP >protocols , and no way of adding "modules" to let you do so. This >sounds terribly like my office! > >Is such a thing actually happening?? > >Regards, > Sandip > > >-- >------------------------------------- >Sandip Bhattacharya >sandipb @ bigfoot.com >http://www.sandipb.net >------------------------------------- > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 22:26:27 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5316C4A072 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:26:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9QGZ400.53F for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:40:16 -0500 Message-ID: <003201c0a53a$dacd7cc0$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: Connecting Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:39:35 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/126 X-Sequence-Number: 2302 Hi, > I would also be grateful if you could recommend me a good LAN card which is > supported by most of the OSes (linux, Solaris 8 and Windows) i don't know abt solaris, but if u wanna go cheap, then buy the realtek chipset based lan cards (like the dlink and dax ones available in delhi!) they are good and cheap, but not the best u can do. If money is not an issue and performence is, then i suggest that u get yrself a intel 100mbps lan card. The intel lan cards are really good, and they are supported on most oses! Also beware of lan cards based on the wd840 chipset (eg. the compex lan cards) They are supported under linux, but the last time i tried to use them, the driver had some serious speed problems. Also since u r going to be linking just 2 comps, i wud suggest that insted of a hub, get a cross cable to connect them. That way u will save a lot of money, and u will also get 100mbps full duplex connection, for which u wud otherwise need an expensive switch! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 23:00:53 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78E64A147 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9QHXZ00.04J for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:01:11 -0500 Message-ID: <009801c0a53d$c71d2ce0$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010304005715.00a797d0@crano.net> <5.0.0.25.2.20010304220851.00a79c90@crano.net> Subject: Re: Cable modem Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:00:31 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/127 X-Sequence-Number: 2303 > The one thing that really annoyed me was that they have configured our NICs > MAC address in their router and if you change your card then you have to > inform them by fax or email and takes a couple of hours for them to reset > the address so you can re register. this is real intresting. i guess what they do is that they limit the bandwidth on the routers rather than on the cable medium. Here at my office we hav a 128k spectranet conn over a dsl link. the link is speed limited by the dsl data layer itself! this gets me transfer rates of max 13.5kb/sec! As far as service goes, it is real great. I get good ping times, and the service has had only 1 outage in 1 month. I have been connected to servers for days at times, and the bandwidth is also very consistent! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Sun Mar 4 23:42:02 2001 Received: from mng.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.217.6]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1DA4A127 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by mng.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id VEL7GG00.3CP for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2030 10:38:40 -0500 Received: from europa ([203.145.150.80]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9PLFT02.KV7 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:19:05 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01c0a532$974679a0$509691cb@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Can't a person speak his mind Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:40:23 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Aditya Okhal" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/128 X-Sequence-Number: 2304 Hi, Can't a person speak his mind. It's a free country. I don't believe in launching pointed personal attacks. I had certain experience last night which required a big protest. So, I protested. As for this mailing list. I appreciate its role. But I have no role models. I acknowledge greatness without becoming a follower. I have certain faults. So what? As for Sunil Dhaka's opinion that I don't belong here because I said something, in general, which made him uncomfortable, I want to laugh. I think he must be a harish chander. I want him to wake up. Wake out of this self-imposed psuedo ethical slumber. There are no saints, only sinners. With Regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 01:34:12 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC5349F1E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.150.9] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.150.9]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f259Mbe08984 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:22:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:23:47 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Fuck this mailing list In-Reply-To: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/129 X-Sequence-Number: 2305 > Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. > Enough of your shitty and mighty attitude. > TO hell with you. hey the only one who has an attitude problem out here is u! if u can even think that we wud take all the trouble of blocking mails from u, ur thinking 2 highly of urself. it seems that u have has a severe case of american fever. kill the bad language dip shit. ur not the only one with that kinda vocabulary. if u cant behave properly on a list, dont be on it. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 01:52:08 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D71F04A01A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:52:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BAE49F15 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:27:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id MAA0000003373; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:46:06 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02055 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:57:27 +0530 Resent-From: Raju Mathur Resent-Message-ID: <15011.12751.658196.344128@localhost.localdomain> Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:57:27 +0530 (IST) Resent-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-POP3-Rcpt: raju@linux-delhi.org Message-ID: <20010305112741.E2121@cix.exocore.com> Reply-To: Biju Chacko Mail-Followup-To: Biju Chacko , LIG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organisation: Exocore Consulting (P) Ltd List-Unsubscribe: mailto:linux-india-general-request@lists.linux-india.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Owner: mailto: linux-india-general-owner@lists.linux-india.org List-Archive: http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-india-general Precedence: bulk From: Biju Chacko To: LIG Subject: [LIG] [mahendra@rvce.ac.in: [blug-non-tech] Schedule for Bang!inux 2001] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:27:41 +0530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Sender: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org X-Archive-Number: 200103/130 X-Sequence-Number: 2306 All, FYI -- Interested parties can contact Mahendra at the venue to attend these *free* talks. regards, Biju ----- Forwarded message from Mahendra M ----- From: Mahendra M Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:50:28 +0500 (IST) To: BLUG-NONTECH Cc: BLUG-TECH Subject: [blug-non-tech] Schedule for Bang!inux 2001 User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 Reply-To: ilug-bangalore-non-tech@yahoogroups.com Hi, ILUG is participating in Bang!inux 2001 We are having many talks and are also setting up a Linux Help-Desk , where visitors can get their Linux problems sloved. Here are the Talk schedules. Mon: Mar 5th - 11:45 - 12:00 - About Linux-India - Mahendra 12:00 - 01:00 - IPv6 under Linux - Kalyan Verma 02:00 - 03:00 - Kernel Recompiling - Kartik N 03:00 - 04:00 - Intrusion Detection Systems - Mahendra M 04:00 - 05:00 - Internet Security - Kalyan & Madhu 05:00 - 06:00 - Device Drivers Under Linux - Hanish Tue: Mar 6th - 10:00 - 11:00 - Kerberos v/s SSL - Kannan 11:00 - 12:00 - Process Management - Jagan 12:00 - 01:00 - Distributed File Systems - Kartik 02:00 - 03:00 - Total Cost of Ownership - Deepak Mallya 03:00 - 04:00 - DNS : Concepts, Implementation - Gopi 04:00 - 05:00 - Securing & Finetuning Linux : Uncoventional methods - Mahendra 05:00 - 06:00 - Kernel Recompiling - Kartik N Wed: Mar 7th - 10:00 - 11:00 - Remote Booting - Ligesh 11:00 - 12:00 - ISPs & Linux - Prasanna 12:00 - 01:00 - OpenLDAP - Ravi Ananth Giri 02:00 - 03:00 - Secure Mail Servers - Mahendra 03:00 - 04:00 - Linux for Humans - Atul 04:00 - 05:00 - Development under Linux : Using tools effectively - Madhu 05:00 - 06:00 - Repeat on Public Demand. Hope that we can pit on a good show. Mahendra Dept. of Electronics & Communications, RV College of Engineering, Bangalore, India. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: rvce.ac.in Server powered by Linux, Apache, PHP4, qmail ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- This is the non-technical list of the Bangalore Linux Users Group ----------------------------------------------------------------- Go to http://www.egroups.com/group/ilug-bangalore-non-tech for subscription/unsubscription information Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Biju Chacko | biju@exocore.com (work) Co-ordinator / Moderator | biju_chacko@yahoo.com (play) Bangalore Linux Users Group | http://bangalore.linux-india.org --------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- LIG is all for free speech. But it was created for a purpose. Violations of the rules of this list will result in stern action. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 02:20:46 2001 Received: from ems.hclinsys.com (unknown [203.90.70.242]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1449F4A08D; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hclinsys.com ([203.90.70.251]) by ems.hclinsys.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id PAA24393; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:44:06 +0530 (IST) Received: from hclinsys.com (mispmo [151.8.1.24]) by hclinsys.com mailho (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id PAA01433; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:33:26 +0530 Received: from localhost (rkannan@localhost) by hclinsys.com mispmo (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id PAA18620; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:30:23 +0530 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:30:23 +0530 (IST) From: R Kannan To: Biju Chacko Cc: LIG , Raju Mathur , linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [LIG] [mahendra@rvce.ac.in: [blug-non-tech] Schedule for Bang!inux 2001] In-Reply-To: <20010305112741.E2121@cix.exocore.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/131 X-Sequence-Number: 2307 Is it possible to share the training slides ( if any ) to this forum so that people like me who is not attending the meeting can get benefited. Will be happy if I get +ve... Yours sincerely, R Kannan. On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Biju Chacko wrote: > All, > > FYI -- Interested parties can contact Mahendra at the venue to attend these > *free* talks. > > regards, > > Biju > > > ----- Forwarded message from Mahendra M ----- > > From: Mahendra M > Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:50:28 +0500 (IST) > To: BLUG-NONTECH > Cc: BLUG-TECH > Subject: [blug-non-tech] Schedule for Bang!inux 2001 > User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 > Reply-To: ilug-bangalore-non-tech@yahoogroups.com > > Hi, > ILUG is participating in Bang!inux 2001 > We are having many talks and are also setting up > a Linux Help-Desk , where visitors can get their Linux > problems sloved. > > Here are the Talk schedules. > > Mon: Mar 5th - > 11:45 - 12:00 - About Linux-India - Mahendra > 12:00 - 01:00 - IPv6 under Linux - Kalyan Verma > 02:00 - 03:00 - Kernel Recompiling - Kartik N > 03:00 - 04:00 - Intrusion Detection Systems - Mahendra M > 04:00 - 05:00 - Internet Security - Kalyan & Madhu > 05:00 - 06:00 - Device Drivers Under Linux - Hanish > > Tue: Mar 6th - > 10:00 - 11:00 - Kerberos v/s SSL - Kannan > 11:00 - 12:00 - Process Management - Jagan > 12:00 - 01:00 - Distributed File Systems - Kartik > 02:00 - 03:00 - Total Cost of Ownership - Deepak Mallya > 03:00 - 04:00 - DNS : Concepts, Implementation - Gopi > 04:00 - 05:00 - Securing & Finetuning Linux : Uncoventional methods - Mahendra > 05:00 - 06:00 - Kernel Recompiling - Kartik N > > Wed: Mar 7th - > 10:00 - 11:00 - Remote Booting - Ligesh > 11:00 - 12:00 - ISPs & Linux - Prasanna > 12:00 - 01:00 - OpenLDAP - Ravi Ananth Giri > 02:00 - 03:00 - Secure Mail Servers - Mahendra > 03:00 - 04:00 - Linux for Humans - Atul > 04:00 - 05:00 - Development under Linux : Using tools effectively - Madhu > 05:00 - 06:00 - Repeat on Public Demand. > > Hope that we can pit on a good show. > > Mahendra > > Dept. of Electronics & Communications, > RV College of Engineering, > Bangalore, India. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: rvce.ac.in > Server powered by Linux, Apache, PHP4, qmail > ------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the non-technical list of the Bangalore Linux Users Group > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Go to http://www.egroups.com/group/ilug-bangalore-non-tech > for subscription/unsubscription information > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Biju Chacko | biju@exocore.com (work) > Co-ordinator / Moderator | biju_chacko@yahoo.com (play) > Bangalore Linux Users Group | http://bangalore.linux-india.org > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------- > LIG is all for free speech. But it was created > for a purpose. Violations of the rules of > this list will result in stern action. > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 04:08:24 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 180B249EFB for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cix.exocore.com (unknown [203.200.5.54]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6F94A281; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from biju@localhost) by cix.exocore.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id f25AZZd07070; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:05:35 +0530 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:05:35 +0530 From: Biju Chacko To: R Kannan Cc: LIG , Raju Mathur , linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [LIG] [mahendra@rvce.ac.in: [blug-non-tech] Schedule for Bang!inux 2001] Message-ID: <20010305160535.C6634@cix.exocore.com> Reply-To: Biju Chacko Mail-Followup-To: Biju Chacko , R Kannan , LIG , Raju Mathur , linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <20010305112741.E2121@cix.exocore.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rkannan@hclinsys.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 03:30:23PM +0530 Organisation: Exocore Consulting (P) Ltd X-Archive-Number: 200103/132 X-Sequence-Number: 2308 On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 03:30:23PM +0530, R Kannan wrote: > Is it possible to share the training slides ( if any ) to > this forum so that people like me who is not attending > the meeting can get benefited. > > Will be happy if I get +ve... We will try to get them up on the bangalore LUG website ASAP. I will announce it when they are ready. Biju -- ------------------------------------------------- Biju Chacko | biju@exocore.com (work) Exocore Consulting | biju_chacko@yahoo.com (play) Bangalore, India | http://www.exocore.com ------------------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 04:18:44 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B25D4A16C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:14:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id RAA0000019379; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:31:41 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01635; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:35:43 +0530 Message-Id: <200103051205.RAA01635@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Mon Mar 5 17:35:43 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Suspended list subscriptions Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200103/133 X-Sequence-Number: 2309 Suspended the following addresses for a week due to bounces: dilrajg@rediffmail.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been suspended by mistake, please send the following message to mailto:majordomo2@lists.linux-india.org : set linux-delhi nomail-return end Please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org if you have any further questions. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 05:34:33 2001 Received: from web4106.mail.yahoo.com (web4106.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.126]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5272F49EFE for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:34:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010305132815.24329.qmail@web4106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.27.183] by web4106.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:28:15 PST Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:28:15 -0800 (PST) From: Chandresh Pant Subject: Re: Mysql To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <006a01c0a498$5ff65fa0$010811ac@BIG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/134 X-Sequence-Number: 2310 --- Amit Soni wrote: > I wanna setup a very simple database of user > infomation name,address, email > etc in mysql. >... > 1. He can Insert into the userinformation table. You can make an HTML form and take all the information and Insert that data onto the Table ( suppose Authen) > 2. He can modify the contents of all coloumns in > userinfomation table where > userid=hisuserid. Now make another HTML form, wherein take appropriate information to Update. Use the following SQL Update Authen where UserID = hisuserID set xyzField = xyzValue go note: take hisuserdID from session, and xyzValue from the form. I guess this will solve UR problem. :) I haven't used mySQL much the above SQL should run on any RDBMS. Regards ===== Chandresh Pant URL : www.chandresh.org email: chpant@yahoo, mail@chandresh.org, chpant@rediffmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 06:02:08 2001 Received: from web4101.mail.yahoo.com (web4101.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.121]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D6E949FF0 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:01:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20010305135539.28552.qmail@web4101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [61.11.27.183] by web4101.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:55:39 PST Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chandresh Pant Subject: Re: Mysql To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org In-Reply-To: <15010.25433.50010.13031@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/135 X-Sequence-Number: 2311 Dear Friends Here is a link to some good MySQL and SQL tutorials: http://www.devshed.com/Server_Side/MySQL/ I thought you may like it :) Regards ===== Chandresh Pant URL : www.chandresh.org email: chpant@yahoo, mail@chandresh.org, chpant@rediffmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 06:37:27 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CD04A015 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:37:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9R64H00.4AT for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:43:29 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.216.199]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9Q46700.F4A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:03:43 -0500 Message-ID: <002701c0a56b$1e6b3500$c7d838ca@europa> From: "adityaokhal" To: Subject: Neil - Enough of your big brotherly rebukes Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:25:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/136 X-Sequence-Number: 2312 > > Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. > > Enough of your shitty and mighty attitude. > > TO hell with you. > hey the only one who has an attitude problem out here is u! > if u can even think that we wud take all the trouble of blocking mails > from u, ur thinking 2 highly of urself. it seems that u have has a severe > case of american fever. kill the bad language dip shit. ur not the only > one with that kinda vocabulary. if u cant behave properly on a list, dont > be on it. > > Neil ===> I don't want your opinion. Whenever I seem to regain my sense of objectivity, your righteous, saintly and big brotherly reply pops up. Hey man, you are not the final authority. I am feeling much better now after a brief flare up yesterday. Please leave me in peace. Whenever, I need the expertise of your technical know-how, I will let you know. I am not expecting any more saintly and bossy views from you. bye, with regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 09:02:33 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF8B4AA26 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.204.222]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA08978 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:34:32 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 132D4746; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:20:41 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:20:41 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux on an iBook- successful Message-ID: <20010304112040.C6058@black-satan> References: <3AA1BB75.48A16A71@linux-delhi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3AA1BB75.48A16A71@linux-delhi.org>; from vk@linux-delhi.org on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:20:13AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/137 X-Sequence-Number: 2313 On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:20:13AM +0530, Krishnan Venkatachalam wrote: >We (Rahul Handa and I) managed to get Linux working on an iBook >yesterday. I thought I would share some of the experience with the list. > >1) GT Enterprises managed to ship a Linuxcentral "single CD" version of >Yellowdoglinux 1.2 to me. Hey can ju bring it on the next lug meet I will burn some cd's 4 myselph and anyone else hu needs . ---end quoted text--- -- ((lambda (foo) (bar foo)) (baz)) ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 09:17:21 2001 Received: from hotmail.com (f68.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.68]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 966144A19A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:13:07 -0800 Received: from 61.1.240.116 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:13:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [61.1.240.116] From: "vinod abraham" To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: REPOST: halt/shutdown not working --pls help!! Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:13:06 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2001 16:13:07.0179 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A1C7BB0:01C0A58F] X-Archive-Number: 200103/138 X-Sequence-Number: 2314 Dear friends, Must do some philanthrophy! Instead of hurling ****ing abuses!! Pls help me with the prob given below. THIS IS A REPOST. vinod. >Dear friends, >most of the tty's are not taking any command. >kill of process by "kill -9" leading to process going defunct. >No "halt" or "shutdown" command working. >Upon going to su --msg that "PAM_pwdb [ ] session coming. >i am using linux 2.2.9 mdk version on penium. >pls help >Vinod. >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 09:17:29 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A4D84A2EA for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:29:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:46:44 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:46:43 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00944@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "Pune Lug (E-mail)" , "Delhi Lug (E-mail)" Subject: samba? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:58:10 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/139 X-Sequence-Number: 2315 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi all, i am interested in communicating with the winnt an win2k machines using the SMB protocol. i need help in this . any body who has worked in this field please mail me offlist. thank you, harshal vaidya. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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No way out , pls help This is repost. vinod >Dear friends, >most of the tty's are not taking any command. >kill of process by "kill -9" leading to process going defunct. >No "halt" or "shutdown" command working. >Upon going to su --msg that "PAM_pwdb [ ] session coming. >i am using linux 2.2.9 mdk version on penium. >pls help >Vinod. >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > >------------------------------------------------ >An alpha version of a web based tool to manage >your subscription with this mailing list is at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 19:30:14 2001 Received: from bbs.myhome.com (unknown [203.122.42.110]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84DB4A17A; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from netshooter.com (IDENT:sudhir@cy233.myhome.com [192.168.1.5]) by bbs.myhome.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA14775; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:51:52 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA5A95E.E5CA982@netshooter.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:52:06 +0530 From: Sudhir Gandotra Organization: Communicators - IIPL http://netshooter.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-12 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Internet Users profile References: <20010306011313.78769.qmail@web12815.mail.yahoo.com> <20010305192431.A23972@aunet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/141 X-Sequence-Number: 2317 Hello List, Is there any profile of the Indian Internet user available anywhere ? Pointers/information will be of help. Thanks. Peace, Force & Joy! Sudhir Gandotra Humanist news & plans at http://humanistmovement.org/jan2001 Transform your life & life of those you love: http://humanistmovement.org/form2.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 20:20:29 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 708764A113 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30455 invoked by uid 417); 6 Mar 2001 04:25:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO virdiirdc125) (203.200.76.21) by smtpa.softhome.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 04:25:05 -0000 Message-ID: <002101c0a5f3$c7d0f4d0$6e1a11ac@ird.niit.com> Reply-To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" From: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" To: References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00944@ctsinpunsxua> Subject: Re: samba? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:43:12 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/142 X-Sequence-Number: 2318 please do reply, even i am interested in this i recently got a Solaris server at my workplace and i plan to make it communicate with WinNt machines using Samba if nwbody has ne idea about this , do write.... -js ----- Original Message ----- From: Harshal Vaidya (CTS) To: Pune Lug (E-mail) ; Delhi Lug (E-mail) Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] samba? > > > hi all, > > i am interested in communicating with the winnt an win2k machines > using the SMB protocol. > i need help in this . > any body who has worked in this field please mail me offlist. > > thank you, > harshal vaidya. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 20:37:29 2001 Received: from nwcst293 (nwcst293.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.38]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD8934A131 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7890 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2001 04:31:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20010306043107.7889.qmail@nwcst293> Received: from 204.68.23.38 by nwcst293 for [203.197.177.6] via web-mailer() on Tue Mar 6 04:31:07 GMT 2001 Date: 5 Mar 2001 21:31:07 MST From: Arun To: ILUG - Subject: system admin job X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer () Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200103/143 X-Sequence-Number: 2319 Arun wrote: hi all, I am looking for an opening in system administration of Linux. My details are : I have been working as linux system administrator and web developer = for a company for an year now. My area of work includes maintaining samba server as pdc f= or about 21 win-nt clients, administring apache server for cgi-perl and PHP support with PostGre as database. Maintaining a dhcp and nfs server,Firewall and ppp server and client for connecting two networks Besides that I have an elementary mail server running(sendmail) for internal two different networks of about 45 PCs.=20 Besides the maintenance work these things have been established by me. I am also doing programming for them in CGI-perl,ASP and javascript. Besides that I am comfortable in nis and ftp. I had done MBA some time back and now am properly into IT. If anyone has something for me please let me know. best wishes ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 20:48:40 2001 Received: from ems.hclinsys.com (unknown [203.90.70.242]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C161E49F4A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from hclinsys.com ([203.90.70.251]) by ems.hclinsys.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA11056; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:13:15 +0530 (IST) Received: from hclinsys.com (IDENT:rkannan@mispmo [151.8.1.24]) by hclinsys.com mailho (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id KAA21173; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:08:15 +0530 Received: from localhost (rkannan@localhost) by hclinsys.com mispmo (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id KAA05470; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:05:49 +0530 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:05:48 +0530 (IST) From: R Kannan To: "Jasmeet S. Virdi" Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: samba? In-Reply-To: <002101c0a5f3$c7d0f4d0$6e1a11ac@ird.niit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/144 X-Sequence-Number: 2320 Dear Mr Jasmeet, I hv done simple Samba config. in Linux. I hv not done with Solaris. The steps are as follows. 1. Relevent Samba RPMs to be installed. I hope.. Samba-client, Samba-tools, Samba-common 2. Edit the default Smb.conf file Remove the comments in the following lines. encrypt passwd = yes smb passwd file = .. case sensitivity related lines ( to disable case sensitivity as Windows is not case sensitive ) 3. Add a user name by doing following useradd username smbpasswd -a username 4. Start your smb service /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb start 5. type 'testparm' in the shell to test the configuration. Now u should be able to access from Linux to NT and reverse. Yours sincerely, R Kannan. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:01:14 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198224A057 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.141]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA22484 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:45 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B90D2764; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:25:45 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:25:45 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Clock Skewd Message-ID: <20010306102545.B581@black-satan> References: <012b01c0a531$67db9c00$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <012b01c0a531$67db9c00$da01a8c0@stpn.soft.net>; from vikcy@mailandnews.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:31:46AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/145 X-Sequence-Number: 2321 Hii I'm gettin enormous amount of mails saying My mails are timestamped Aug 2014 or dec 2014, I know That. Here is the problem. ..... Once upon a time there was a handsome, charming prince who used debian GNU/linux, and saw that it was good. And a heartless witch casted a spell, and his system got clock Skewd And by the time he noticed it was too late. Everything was in 2014 but he was still in 2001. So I su'ed and wrote a quick n dirty command to touch everything that existed but to my dismay nothing happened to the sym links ;( . And Postfix is still using some sym link'ed libs and may be that causes to create future timestamped mail drop. Can any one give any pointers to what may cause such clock skews I think time travel ;) . and is there any way to touch links. -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:01:19 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85CB94A136 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.141]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA22501 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:45 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC0D3746; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:59:17 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:59:17 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Can't a person speak his mind Message-ID: <20010305235917.A914@black-satan> References: <003d01c0a532$974679a0$509691cb@europa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <003d01c0a532$974679a0$509691cb@europa>; from adityaokhal@mantraonline.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:40:23AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/146 X-Sequence-Number: 2322 I say this man is a real pain in the a** Just when you think you've seen it all someone will breed a better idiot. This guy definately proves it a fascist leftist moron. On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:40:23AM +0530, Aditya Okhal wrote: >Hi, > >Can't a person speak his mind. It's a free >country. I don't believe in launching pointed >personal attacks. I had certain experience last >night which required a big protest. So, I protested. > >As for this mailing list. I appreciate its role. >But I have no role models. I acknowledge >greatness without becoming a follower. > >I have certain faults. So what? > >As for Sunil Dhaka's opinion that I don't belong here >because I said something, in general, which made him >uncomfortable, I want to laugh. I think he must be a harish >chander. I want him to wake up. Wake out of this self-imposed >psuedo ethical slumber. There are no saints, only sinners. > > >With Regards, > >Aditya Okhal > > >------------------------------------------------ >The mailing list archives are available at >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi ---end quoted text--- -- What the deuce is it to me? You say that we go around the sun. If we went around the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or my work. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Study in Scarlet" ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:01:28 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7E64A159 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:00:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.141]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA22479 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:44 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5DD61761; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:34:53 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:34:53 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Message-ID: <20010306003453.B914@black-satan> References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com>; from ambarroy@iname.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 06:14:37PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/147 X-Sequence-Number: 2323 On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 06:14:37PM +0530, Ambar Roy wrote: >Hi, >> I personaly like Freebsd very much but don't use it because of the >> license. Its not GPL and I am in love with the GPL. >this is the funniest reason that i hav heard for not using freebsd. I agree >that as a programmer contributing to open source software, license issues >are very imp (with bsd and gpl being the 2 most popular ones i guess), but >definately it shud not take u away from using the os!! The bsd license >allows u to do everything that the gpl allows (and if i understand it >correctly.. if u make changes, then u can put those changes under gpl!! >correct me if i am wrong!) and more! Tell me one thing, don't u use apache >under linux! even apache has the same licence as freebsd! personally I prefer and use boa. I don't want to become the next alan cox Yes I can take a freebsd cd, run a awk script through it and replace Free with GNU and have my own GNUBSD talk about making changes. :) But the thing is I don't want that what any guy wants is recognition in the group s/he is in and even if I do my level best with BSDLite I won't get a place in the 20 some ppl in the kernel team neither will my code. So why not run and study mach and The HURD and try to code. :) is it a bad reason. But the reason why BSD is kinda (ok) is cuz of the tightness of code but then, i would rather run openbsd. ---end quoted text--- -- What the deuce is it to me? You say that we go around the sun. If we went around the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or my work. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Study in Scarlet" ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:02:29 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6558A4A21A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:00:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.203.141]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA22608 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:48 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6BED0766; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:27:35 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:27:35 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Cyber law Message-ID: <20010306102735.C581@black-satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/148 X-Sequence-Number: 2324 You don't have to be admiral of a fleet to understand what bullshit it actully is. Eat This: A policeman can without warrant enter search seize a computer he thinks is or may be used for "Hacking". Obiviously he can't enter your house he can do that to a machine which is accessible from a public place so he sits in the middle of chawdi bazzar takes out his laptop and pings your pc Oh my god! your machine is acessable publically. -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:02:39 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B2454A276 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C114A0FC for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([202.131.116.88]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f25G06Q00707 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:30:06 +0530 Message-ID: <024e01c0a58c$68fa1c00$2ff60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> Subject: Re: Fuck this mailing list Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:44:17 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/149 X-Sequence-Number: 2325 Is this list not moderated ? r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] Fuck this mailing list > How come messages I am posting are not showing up. > If you are trying to block my messages then fuck this > mailing list. Its being run and monopolised by couple > of psuedo experts who can't take a piece of criticism. > > Fuck you all. What gives you right to be masters. > Enough of your shitty and mighty attitude. > TO hell with you. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:02:39 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2A184A262 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7414A198 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:00:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([202.131.116.88]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f25G07Q00711 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:30:07 +0530 Message-ID: <024f01c0a58c$69806300$2ff60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: References: <003d01c0a532$974679a0$509691cb@europa> Subject: Re: Can't a person speak his mind Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:59:30 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/150 X-Sequence-Number: 2326 its strange i cud not find anything pertaining to linux/technology in the message body. is linux-delhi taking inputs from some spiritual organisation of which Mr. Okhal is the "cult leader" ? r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] Can't a person speak his mind > Hi, > > Can't a person speak his mind. It's a free > country. I don't believe in launching pointed > personal attacks. I had certain experience last > night which required a big protest. So, I protested. > > As for this mailing list. I appreciate its role. > But I have no role models. I acknowledge > greatness without becoming a follower. > > I have certain faults. So what? > > As for Sunil Dhaka's opinion that I don't belong here > because I said something, in general, which made him > uncomfortable, I want to laugh. I think he must be a harish > chander. I want him to wake up. Wake out of this self-imposed > psuedo ethical slumber. There are no saints, only sinners. > > > With Regards, > > Aditya Okhal > > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:13:09 2001 Received: from texas.dotxtra.com (texas.dotxtra.com [209.15.112.65]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6A84A0A8 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:13:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcns77.docsis190.singa.pore.net (fluff) [202.156.190.77] by texas.dotxtra.com with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14a9gI-00041m-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:06:42 -0600 Message-ID: <028401c0a5fb$3b1cee60$4dbe9cca@fluff> From: "Sanjeev Gupta" To: References: <20010306102735.C581@black-satan> Subject: Re: Cyber law Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:06:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/151 X-Sequence-Number: 2327 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pankaj Kaushal" > You don't have to be admiral of a fleet to understand what > bullshit it actully is. Eat This: A policeman can without > warrant enter search seize a computer he thinks is > or may be used for "Hacking". Obiviously he can't enter your > house he can do that to a machine which is accessible from a > public place so he sits in the middle of chawdi bazzar > takes out his laptop and pings your pc Oh my god! your > machine is acessable publically. Excellent point. Well made, and summarizes the issues well. Someone remind me, what _is_ the issue? Apropos? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:20:20 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AA04A10A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9S90T00.H7D for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:43:41 -0500 Message-ID: <01d401c0a5fc$1c4b4350$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <003d01c0a532$974679a0$509691cb@europa> <024f01c0a58c$69806300$2ff60b3d@rahul> Subject: Re: Can't a person speak his mind Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:42:58 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/152 X-Sequence-Number: 2328 > its strange i cud not find anything pertaining to linux/technology in the > message body. is linux-delhi taking inputs from some spiritual organisation > of which Mr. Okhal is the "cult leader" ? i like this one!!!!! NewsFlash: Linux delhi takes spiritual input from Mr Okhal the cult leader! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:23:43 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3FF54A290 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:20:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000017987; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:40:21 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA01669; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:44:23 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.29230.953962.395279@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:44:22 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: halt/shutdown not working --pls help!! In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/153 X-Sequence-Number: 2329 Hi Vinod, Looks like a rather serious problem in the system. I could have been cracked, or there could be hardware problems (disk, memory, etc). I'd suggest reinstalling after backing up your critical files. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "vinod" == vinod abraham writes: vinod> Dear Raju, I am stuck. No way out , pls help This is vinod> repost. vinod >> Dear friends, most of the tty's are not taking any command. >> kill of process by "kill -9" leading to process going defunct. >> No "halt" or "shutdown" command working. Upon going to su >> --msg that "PAM_pwdb [ ] session coming. i am using linux >> 2.2.9 mdk version on penium. pls help Vinod. -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:23:53 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68DC64A2A9 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns2.freedialin.com (unknown [203.175.128.72]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C8E4A19D for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from renewal-iis.com ([203.175.135.252]) by ns2.freedialin.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA16349 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:24:51 +0530 Received: from ntserver.iis.com [200.200.200.213] by renewal-iisindia.com [127.0.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.T) for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:17:03 +0500 Received: by NTSERVER with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:16:34 +0530 Message-ID: From: Ajay Anand To: "'Harshal Vaidya (CTS) '" , "'Pune Lug (E-mail) '" , "'Delhi Lug (E-mail) '" Subject: RE: samba? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:16:33 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) List-Unsubscribe: mailto:linux-delhi-request@lists.linux-india.org?subject=unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-Archive-Number: 200103/154 X-Sequence-Number: 2330 Harshal, search for s/w smbfs on redhat linux site and install it. after that you need to convert encrypted password to plain smbpasswd file. Document on how to convert is lying on redhat site " just search with key word samba on redhat support". Good Luck!!!!!! Ajay -----Original Message----- From: Harshal Vaidya (CTS) To: Pune Lug (E-mail); Delhi Lug (E-mail) Sent: 3/5/01 8:58 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] samba? hi all, i am interested in communicating with the winnt an win2k machines using the SMB protocol. i need help in this . any body who has worked in this field please mail me offlist. thank you, harshal vaidya. <> <> From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:29:22 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA644A16E; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id KAA0000000312; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:48:15 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02052; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:52:14 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.29701.424876.587772@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:52:13 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org, linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org Subject: (fwd) SuSE Security Announcement: cups X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/155 X-Sequence-Number: 2331 [Please upgrade if you use CUPS. Not SuSE-specific -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: Approved-By: aleph1@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Delivered-To: bugtraq@lists.securityfocus.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Reply-To: Sebastian Krahmer From: Sebastian Krahmer Sender: Bugtraq List To: BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Subject: SuSE Security Announcement: cups Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:12:06 +0100 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- ______________________________________________________________________________ SuSE Security Announcement Package: cups Announcement-ID: SuSE-SA:2001:05 Date: Monday, March 5th, 2001 13:10:13 MET Affected SuSE versions: 7.1 Vulnerability Type: local/remote root compromise Severity (1-10): 5 SuSE default package: no Other affected systems: All UN*X-systems using cups < 1.1.6. Content of this advisory: 1) security vulnerability resolved: cups problem description, discussion, solution and upgrade information 2) pending vulnerabilities, solutions, workarounds 3) standard appendix (further information) ______________________________________________________________________________ 1) problem description, brief discussion, solution, upgrade information CUPS is an implementation of the Internet Printing Protocol (IPP) and is used as an alternative to the lpr and LPRng packages. The CUPS package aims to be a comprehensive printing solution for UN*X-systems. In SuSE-7.1 distribution, the cups package is not used by any configuration utilities unless the admin has decided to configure the package manually. The cups package has been introduced in the SuSE-7.1 distribution; enhanced support for future releases of the SuSE Linux distribution is planned. A SuSE-internal security audit conducted by Sebastian Krahmer and Thomas Biege revealed several overflows as well as insecure file handling. These bugs have been fixed by adding length-checks and securing the file-access. For a temporary workaround, remove the suid-bit from the 'lppasswd' program. Make sure nobody from outside your network can access the CUPS-server running on port 631. Allowing access to this port from outside is a bad idea regardless whether or not the used version is vulnerable. No remote-exploits are known yet. Download the update package from locations desribed below and install the package with the command `rpm -Uhv file.rpm'. The md5sum for each file is in the line below. You can verify the integrity of the rpm files using the command `rpm --checksig --nogpg file.rpm', independently from the md5 signatures below. i386 Intel Platform: SuSE-7.1 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/d3/cups-devel-1.1.6-13.i386.rpm 23c6484952ab0c1de81e2db38bcd3afc SuSE-7.1 ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/n2/cups-1.1.6-13.i386.rpm 812e0c47dcfe508eb9e8ccb38165b6d7 source rpm: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/7.1/zq1/cups-1.1.6-13.src.rpm 204cea2ad6a61293c191e70a2cacdc82 ______________________________________________________________________________ 2) Pending vulnerabilities in SuSE Distributions and Workarounds: Effective Monday, March 19 2001, five weeks after the release of the new SuSE-7.1 distribution, SuSE will discontinue support for the SuSE-linux distributions SuSE-6.0 SuSE-6.1 and SuSE-6.2. SuSE puts much effort into adding security improvements (patches) to the software instead of publishing a new version; the same program with a fix for a specific problem promises to work just as reliable as the original version from the distribution, whereas new versions introduce new functionality which changes the behaviour. In some cases however, especially if the security leak is based on problematic design decisions or when the fix(es) are fairly large, the only reasonable fix for a security problem is to update to a newer version of the software. These newer versions tend to become incompatible with our older distribution releases because of missing features in the operating system environment. This forces us to focus on the distributions of a newer release date. The remaining distributions SuSE-6.3, SuSE-6.4, SuSE-7.0 and SuSE-7.1 for the Intel i386, AXP Alpha, SPARC as well as PPC Power PC platforms will continue to be supported for a two-year period after the release of the respective distribution. ______________________________________________________________________________ 3) standard appendix: SuSE runs two security mailing lists to which any interested party may subscribe: suse-security@suse.com - general/linux/SuSE security discussion. All SuSE security announcements are sent to this list. To subscribe, send an email to . suse-security-announce@suse.com - SuSE's announce-only mailing list. Only SuSE's security annoucements are sent to this list. To subscribe, send an email to . For general information or the frequently asked questions (faq) send mail to: or respectively. =============================================== SuSE's security contact is . =============================================== Regards, Sebastian Krahmer ______________________________________________________________________________ The information in this advisory may be distributed or reproduced, provided that the advisory is not modified in any way. SuSE GmbH makes no warranties of any kind whatsoever with respect to the information contained in this security advisory. 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Now I request you to please help me with my problem Please remove the following message from your mails if you can not please use some other way to mail to this list This is my last request to you and if I see more message with this note I will opt for alt.animal.husbandry treatment for you. >This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. >If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. >Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com > Dear list Admin as you can clearly see this type of message is not in the spirit of free software. Do you think person with such a mind frame should even be allowed to be on the mailing list let alone ask questions and get answers. Mr List Admin is ther a way to ignore or not get messages from someone Pls let me know if mojordomo provides somethin Mr CTS If I see more of such messages I will definitely do somethig about it because you solely are the cause for the recent flame war's. And still you continue to flash your stupid signature. ---end quoted text--- -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:32:06 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC654A2BD for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.155]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07382 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:53:51 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 32ADC746; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:36:20 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:36:20 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: samba? Message-ID: <20010306103619.D581@black-satan> References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00944@ctsinpunsxua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00944@ctsinpunsxua>; from HarshalV@pun.COGNIZANT.COM on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:58:10PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/157 X-Sequence-Number: 2333 On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:58:10PM +0530, Harshal Vaidya (CTS) wrote: > > >hi all, > > i am interested in communicating with the winnt an win2k machines >using the SMB protocol. > i need help in this . > any body who has worked in this field please mail me offlist. The configuration file that we will use to start SAMBA follows. It belongs in /usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf: [global] # # Set this to your domain name: workgroup = sarai # # This is only a comment; treat it, however, like you would: server string = Samba Server v2.0.7 # # The following line, if uncommented, would restrict access # to the machines on a private class C network: # hosts allow = 127. 192.168.10. # # Maintain a separate log file for each client that # connects (by computer name). If you want a single # log file, remove the '.%m' from the end. log file = /usr/local/samba/var/log.%m # # How large can a log get (in kB)? max log size = 50 # # Computer Name: netbios name = SAMBA # # Who are the domain controllers? List the PDC, followed # by all the BDCs, separated by spaces. Alternatively, # this could be left set as is and SAMBA will determine # who the Domain Controllers are, like Windows NT does. password server = * # # What type of security are we using? security = DOMAIN # # ALWAYS, ALWAYS encrypt passwords. No clear-text # passwords should ever even see the light of day. encrypt passwords = yes # # Makes the speed better on some computers. If you have # trouble, remove this line first: socket options = TCP_NODELAY # # Try to avoid an election by refusing to start one, or # to ever participate in one. local master = no preferred master = no # # Who is your WINS server? You should already have a WINS # server in place (either that or you are wasting too # much bandwidth on broadcasts). wins server = 192.168.1.31 # # If DNS cannot find a name, should WINS try? dns proxy = no #================== Share Definitions =================== # Homes is a special share that shares out the home # directory for each valid user and also creates a # share named 'HOMES' that automatically maps to the # correct home directory for the current user. [homes] comment = Home Directories # Commentary only browseable = yes # Seen in explorer? writable = yes # Read/Write? # # Another share. This one is not magical like HOMES. This # illustrates how to share something without advertising # that it is shared. You can still connect to \\SAMBA\LOCAL, but # you can't browse to find it. This is similar to appending a $ to a Wind ows # share name. [local] comment = useless # Comment is useless here browseable = no # Do not show in browser writeable = no # Allow no changes path = /usr/local # Share this path Before we can start SAMBA, we need to join the domain. This entails logging into the domain as the computer account and setting a password that will be used later. Thankfully, SAMBA can do this for us with: /usr/local/samba/bin/smbpasswd -j DOMAIN -r (Replace with the name of your Primary Domain Controller). Once this configuration file has been created and the domain has been joined, we only one step remains. SAMBA requires each user who will be accessing the computer remotely to have a user ID on the SAMBA server. The reason for this is that when the NT user 'orbaker' connects, SAMBA forks for the connection and sets its user ID to 'orbaker' to create an equivalency. Be certain that you have the same username for both Windows NT and your SAMBA server (NOTE: The passwords need not be identical). Now, run the commands: /usr/local/samba/bin/smbd -D /usr/local/samba/bin/nmbd -D You should be able to browse your SAMBA server from the Windows explorer interface. When you connect to the server, you should see the shares 'HOMES' and one for your username. Everyone sees his or her home directory and HOMES. The share LOCAL shouldn't be listed here, but if you right-click on 'Network Neighborhood' and select 'Map Network Drive' you should be able to map a drive to '\\SAMBA\LOCAL'. To experiment a bit more with shares, try some of the following: * Add the line 'hide dot files = yes' to one of the share definitions. This should make hidden files hidden (if your workstation has the 'Show All Files' option set, you will still see them, although their properties will show that they are hidden). * Your samba/private directory has some sensitive information in it. Try adding the line: 'veto files = /private/' to the definition for the LOCAL share. This should keep /usr/local/samba/private from being accessed from Windows stations. Try creating the directory: /usr/local/private. This directory should also be inaccessible. -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:48:21 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D204A320 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SH9L00.52C for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:41:45 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.213.115]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9RG0301.S19 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:16:51 -0500 Message-ID: <011c01c0a5fb$72ca2a80$b3ee38ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Rahul Jindal - To remove your misconceptions Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:38:03 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/158 X-Sequence-Number: 2334 Hi Rahul, What you saw posted in my name is now two days old. It happened because of some situation. Don't voice any oblique views which are troubling. I want it to let it go. bye, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:48:23 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74814A17A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:47:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SGWH00.61R for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:33:54 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.213.115]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9RFKI03.E0P for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:07:31 -0500 Message-ID: <00f801c0a5fa$24918ee0$b3ee38ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: References: <003d01c0a532$974679a0$509691cb@europa> <20010305235917.A914@black-satan> Subject: Re: Can't a person speak his mind Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:28:52 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/159 X-Sequence-Number: 2335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pankaj Kaushal" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Can't a person speak his mind > I say this man is a real pain in the a** > > Just when you think you've seen it all > someone will breed a better idiot. > > This guy definately proves it > > a fascist leftist moron. > > > On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:40:23AM +0530, Aditya Okhal wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Can't a person speak his mind. It's a free > >country. I don't believe in launching pointed > >personal attacks. I had certain experience last > >night which required a big protest. So, I protested. > > > >As for this mailing list. I appreciate its role. > >But I have no role models. I acknowledge > >greatness without becoming a follower. > > > >I have certain faults. So what? > > > >As for Sunil Dhaka's opinion that I don't belong here > >because I said something, in general, which made him > >uncomfortable, I want to laugh. I think he must be a harish > >chander. I want him to wake up. Wake out of this self-imposed > >psuedo ethical slumber. There are no saints, only sinners. > > > > > >With Regards, > > > >Aditya Okhal > > > > > >------------------------------------------------ > >The mailing list archives are available at > >http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > ---end quoted text--- > > -- > What the deuce is it to me? You say that we go around the sun. If we went > around the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or my work. > -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Study in Scarlet" > ................................ > Pankaj Kaushal > Proud to use GNU > > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:48:43 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9464A17A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:47:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SH3G00.P2E for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:38:04 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.213.115]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9RFTY00.N0U for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:13:10 -0500 Message-ID: <010401c0a5fa$ef0d30c0$b3ee38ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Pakaj Kaushal and All Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:34:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/159 X-Sequence-Number: 2336 Hi Pankaj dear, I had voiced an opinion which was based on a particular situation. I don't want any more shit from you. If I am a moron then you must be EINSTEIN. If you want this thing to subside then don't keep on commenting on it. You are just not letting it go. bye, With Regards, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:49:17 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18224A3EB for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SHN300.02J for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:49:51 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.213.115]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9RGDL01.A0Z for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:24:57 -0500 Message-ID: <013001c0a5fc$9431b0c0$b3ee38ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:46:19 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/160 X-Sequence-Number: 2337 Hi Rahul, I don't know what culty tendencies you saw in my mail. I am no spiritual or cult leader. I have a deep interest in science fiction and am a futurist. The reason you did not find any Linux related matter in the body because it was a protest posting. Don't misunderstand me. I have joined this list to gain from Linux expertise of all it members. I hope you can understand what I have put to you through this mail. Bye, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:49:23 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CEA4A423 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:48:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SHTG00.N24 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:53:40 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.213.115]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9RGJZ01.61H for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:28:47 -0500 Message-ID: <013a01c0a5fd$1d2be9e0$b3ee38ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: Ambar Roy - To rmove your doubts Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:50:05 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/161 X-Sequence-Number: 2338 Hi Amber, There were no spiritual inputs in the posting. I am surprised that Linux users can be so wane so as to consider an opinion as spiritual. It was an opinion based on a situation. I don't think you know the context. If you feel offended by it, my apologies. Bye, Aditya Okhal From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 21:49:28 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FD5A4A47F for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Mon Mar 5 21:19:52 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 10:49:52 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Expiredinmiddle: true X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: samba? X-Sender-Ip: 203.197.196.240 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 537 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/162 X-Sequence-Number: 2339 hi try out samba 2.0.7 from site http://www.samba.org it has reg entry for win2k m/cs manish On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:58:10 Harshal Vaidya (CTS) wrote: > > >hi all, > > i am interested in communicating with the winnt an win2k machines >using the SMB protocol. > i need help in this . > any body who has worked in this field please mail me offlist. > > thank you, > harshal vaidya. > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:04:32 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9A5E4A1D5 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:26:09 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:26:09 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C0094A@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "Delhi Lug (E-mail)" Subject: samba again Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:36:22 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/163 X-Sequence-Number: 2340 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" any body programed with SMB protocol... please mail me offlist. thanks... harshal vaidya. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:15:05 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA804A157 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.195.20]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24659; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:37:07 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4DCC3746; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:42:49 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:42:48 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: how about shutting up? Message-ID: <20010306114248.A1252@black-satan> References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00949@ctsinpunsxua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00949@ctsinpunsxua>; from HarshalV@pun.COGNIZANT.COM on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:32:42AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/164 X-Sequence-Number: 2341 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:32:42AM +0530, Harshal Vaidya (CTS) wrote: >yo pal , > > i guess you got some problem with my mail having disclaimer attached to >it. Yes I have a problem why do u have a problem removing it. It is strictly against what I belive in . I have asked to humbly a number of times its you who has a additude problem not me. What if i had this as my signature -- Vaidya (CTS) is a F**ing leftist corporate A**hole Mthaf**ker. Would you ignore it . your signature is an abuse for everything i belive in. > well if you dont like it ignore it but why are you complaining about it >like > a lamer . and for the flame war's goin on on the list its not the >disclaimer > which is causing it but some bufoons like you who got no work and got big >attitude > problems which they display it on the list. > > and by the way thanks for that samba help. don't thank cuz now on u won't get any. > harshal vaidya. Y do'nt you get urself a free pop account for the lug list ---end quoted text--- -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:16:14 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDC1B4A2E6 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:16:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from blrnd2.bplnet.com (unknown [202.169.129.44]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4494A4A14E; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackehlo.cluestick.org (root@[202.169.130.241]) by blrnd2.bplnet.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f263rQF24199; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:23:26 +0530 (IST) Received: (from suresh@localhost) by blackehlo.cluestick.org (8.11.2/8.11.2/clue-1.81) id f2640DW01464; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:30:13 +0530 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:30:13 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian To: linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [LIH] Internet Users profile Message-ID: <20010306093013.B1448@cluestick.org> Reply-To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Mail-Followup-To: linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <20010306011313.78769.qmail@web12815.mail.yahoo.com> <20010305192431.A23972@aunet.org> <3AA5A95E.E5CA982@netshooter.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA5A95E.E5CA982@netshooter.com>; from sudhir@netshooter.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:52:06AM +0530 Organization: OyeIndia Internetworks X-Archive-Number: 200103/165 X-Sequence-Number: 2342 On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:52:06AM +0530, Sudhir Gandotra typed: > Is there any profile of the Indian Internet user available anywhere ? > Pointers/information will be of help. Profile? What kind of profile? -s -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + suresh <@> oyeindia.com Sysadmin, Oyeindia.Com + http://www.oyeindia.com You can't kiss a girl unexpectedly -- only sooner than she thought you would. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:18:55 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F85C4A306 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:18:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id LAA0000032196; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:38:04 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02559; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:42:08 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.32696.502344.93484@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:42:08 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Fuck this mailing list In-Reply-To: <024e01c0a58c$68fa1c00$2ff60b3d@rahul> References: <003201c0a4ce$228c1d40$b99691cb@europa> <024e01c0a58c$68fa1c00$2ff60b3d@rahul> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/166 X-Sequence-Number: 2343 No, for many reasons: - We believe in free speech and self-regulation. - No one has the time to monitor each and every post to the list. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Rahul" == Rahul Jindal writes: Rahul> Is this list not moderated ? -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:20:14 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E314A3BF for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id LAA0000010620; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:39:17 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02566 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:43:12 +0530 Resent-From: Raju Mathur Resent-Message-ID: <15012.32760.401343.583975@localhost.localdomain> Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:43:12 +0530 (IST) Resent-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org X-POP3-Rcpt: raju@linux-delhi.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <15012.29230.953962.395279@localhost.localdomain> From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: updating the kernel? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:16:34 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/167 X-Sequence-Number: 2344 Hi there, Can anyone tell me what the easiest way is to update Kernel on a Slakware Linux Box? Cheers, Sahil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:21:30 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C16F74A317 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:21:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from blrnd2.bplnet.com (unknown [202.169.129.44]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC19C4A1CF; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackehlo.cluestick.org (root@[202.169.130.241]) by blrnd2.bplnet.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f263tUF24334; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:25:31 +0530 (IST) Received: (from suresh@localhost) by blackehlo.cluestick.org (8.11.2/8.11.2/clue-1.81) id f26424D01486; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:32:04 +0530 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:32:04 +0530 From: Suresh Ramasubramanian To: linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [LIH] Internet Users profile Message-ID: <20010306093204.C1448@cluestick.org> Mail-Followup-To: linux-india-help@lists.linux-india.org, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <20010306011313.78769.qmail@web12815.mail.yahoo.com> <20010305192431.A23972@aunet.org> <3AA5A95E.E5CA982@netshooter.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA5A95E.E5CA982@netshooter.com>; from sudhir@netshooter.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:52:06AM +0530 Organization: Hopelessly Disorganized X-Archive-Number: 200103/168 X-Sequence-Number: 2345 Sudhir Gandotra [Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:52:06AM +0530]: > Is there any profile of the Indian Internet user available anywhere ? > Pointers/information will be of help. Profile? What kind of profile? For what would such a profile be used? Two necessary questions, if you want a profile (which is somewhat like a blind man describing an elephant at the best of times) -s -- Suresh Ramasubramanian <--> mallet efn org EMail Sturmbannfuhrer, Lower Middle Class Unix Sysadmin "What separates normal people from kooks is how they react when people disagree with them or tell them "NO" <-- Ron Ritzman on news.admin.net-abuse.email From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:57:04 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12074A1F2 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SDJR00.P0W for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: <023e01c0a609$c5810f60$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: updating the kernel? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:20:25 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/169 X-Sequence-Number: 2346 > Can anyone tell me what the easiest way is to update Kernel on a Slakware > Linux Box? same as in redhat/mandrake/debian.. get a new kernel, preferably from the disto updates sites, as most distros add additional patches nowadays! and then compile and install it as normal.. u cud also try to patch yr existing kernel source with a upgrade patch, if u hav the same kernel as distributed by linus. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 22:59:42 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C774A132 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:59:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10234 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:58:10 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: updating the kernel? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:49:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <023e01c0a609$c5810f60$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/170 X-Sequence-Number: 2347 I meant to say would I be required to Install everything from SCRATCH?? -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Ambar Roy Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:50 PM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] updating the kernel? > Can anyone tell me what the easiest way is to update Kernel on a Slakware > Linux Box? same as in redhat/mandrake/debian.. get a new kernel, preferably from the disto updates sites, as most distros add additional patches nowadays! and then compile and install it as normal.. u cud also try to patch yr existing kernel source with a upgrade patch, if u hav the same kernel as distributed by linus. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r ------------------------------------------------ The mailing list archives are available at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 23:05:13 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BF44A120 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.185]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14728 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:27:22 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9EA00746; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:32:51 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:32:51 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: updating the kernel? Message-ID: <20010306123251.A1304@black-satan> References: <023e01c0a609$c5810f60$8900000a@aclindia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from sales@net4u.co.nz on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:49:31PM -0800 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/171 X-Sequence-Number: 2348 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:49:31PM -0800, Sahil Gupta - NET4U wrote: >I meant to say would I be required to Install everything from SCRATCH?? certainly not dounload the l8test kernel and do a make menucinfig make dep; make modules;make bzImage;make modules_install;make install;make cola ;grep chips; sleep 20000 if u use grub skip make install do it with hand ;) ---end quoted text--- -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 23:13:50 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440784A21F for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SLH900.R5J for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:12:45 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.226.211]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9RK7R03.I2B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:47:51 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c0a608$290f6d80$d3e238ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Subject: MESSAGE FOR ALL Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:09:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/172 X-Sequence-Number: 2349 Hi Everyone, This message is an effort to limit the unnecessary clashes we are having over the net. If I have offended anyone, I accept my mistake and give my heartfelt apology. Image of me getting projected through my messages is false. I am NO LEFTIST-FASCIST, CULT LEADER or for that matter SPIRITUAL LEADER. I an NO FANATIC. I am a simple seeker of knowledge. All this confrontation and snipping at each other is un-productive, Intellectually draining and degrading. This list is for sharing and pooling of the Linux expertise of all Delhi Chapter members. I am just a novice to Linux. I have great deal to learn and I expect you all to be my guides. Please don't make any troubling comments. This is a sincere message. In end I want to say - "To Err is human" Bye, With Regards, Aditya Okhal PN - Neil, Sunil Dhaka, Ambar Roy and Pankaj Kaushal I wish you knew me in person. Actually It all started with misunderstanding between Neil and me. In my reply I was not attacking Neil. Maybe, my writing style is a result of heavy and heady cocktail of science fiction readings. Maybe I should have been lot more diplomatic or for that matter more simple. I don't know. Actually Neil's replys were ticking me off. I felt that I was unnecessarily being behaved to in degrading manner. I hope you understand. Please don't send any more bossy and judgemental replies. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 23:29:46 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315874A2D5 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SF2B00.886 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:54:11 -0500 Message-ID: <026501c0a60e$5797c110$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: updating the kernel? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:53:28 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/173 X-Sequence-Number: 2350 Hi, > I meant to say would I be required to Install everything from SCRATCH?? not unless u r doing a major jump (say from 2.0 to 2.2 or from 2.2 to 2.4) and even then u can keep yr existing setup.. u just need to do more if u do this kinda jump.. if u r upgrading from the same series, then u can either download a binary for your distro or u can follow what i had said in the earlier mail! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 23:33:17 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC2D4A074 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SF8600.76Z for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: <026d01c0a60e$d58a7db0$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <002201c0a608$290f6d80$d3e238ca@europa> Subject: Re: MESSAGE FOR ALL Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:57:00 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/174 X-Sequence-Number: 2351 > "To Err is human" finally.. i guess we are comming to an end of another war!!! these wars always amuse me in the sense that most ppl go to extreme lengths to flame another. At least i think that ppl who hav been around on this list for some time now, shud not be responsible for this kinda flame wars.. I guess just a simple msg to aditya in the begining wud hav been better than all this bandwidth spent on a completely useless flame war!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 23:34:58 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88B744A28C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:55:13 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:55:13 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "Pune Lug (E-mail)" , "Delhi Lug (E-mail)" Subject: env variables? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:05:27 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/175 X-Sequence-Number: 2352 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" how do i list all the system environment variables on my machine harshal --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Mon Mar 5 23:57:42 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4684A42E for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SGAI00.772 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:20:42 -0500 Message-ID: <029d01c0a612$0beda640$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> Subject: Re: env variables? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:19:59 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/176 X-Sequence-Number: 2353 set them in /etc/profile! > how do i list all the system environment variables on my machine Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 01:01:40 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9564A2D9 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18641 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:00:11 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: updating the kernel? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:51:30 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <026501c0a60e$5797c110$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/177 X-Sequence-Number: 2354 My system currently has 2.2.18 and I wish to upgrade to the most recent one without reinstalling the whole system and with least downtime. I don't have physical access to my system. Cheers, Sahil -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Ambar Roy Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:23 PM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] updating the kernel? Hi, > I meant to say would I be required to Install everything from SCRATCH?? not unless u r doing a major jump (say from 2.0 to 2.2 or from 2.2 to 2.4) and even then u can keep yr existing setup.. u just need to do more if u do this kinda jump.. if u r upgrading from the same series, then u can either download a binary for your distro or u can follow what i had said in the earlier mail! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 01:30:24 2001 Received: from biznetindia.com (unknown [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4C74A21A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.145.148.98] (IDENT:neil@[203.145.148.98]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f269Mlp04896 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:22:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:23:56 +0600 (LKT) From: neil X-Sender: neil@medusa.home Reply-To: neil@linux-delhi.org To: "Delhi Lug (E-mail)" Subject: Re: env variables? In-Reply-To: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/178 X-Sequence-Number: 2355 > how do i list all the system environment variables on my machine if u know C extern char *environ[]; defined in unistd.h environ is a global array of pointers that holds all env variables. Neil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 01:40:29 2001 Received: from cobrand.salon.com (cobrand.salon.com [204.71.206.116]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB10F4A253 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by cobrand.salon.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA16618; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:33:58 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:33:58 -0800 Message-Id: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com> Errors: mithun.b@egurucool.com To: pradeep.k@egurucool.com, ashish.m@egurucool.com, linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org From: mithun.b@egurucool.com Subject: Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant X-Archive-Number: 200103/179 X-Sequence-Number: 2356 mithun.b@egurucool.com thought you would be interested in this article at Salon.com http://www.salon.com mithun.b@egurucool.com came from IP: 203.122.32.98 - - - - - - - - - - - - Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant By Simson Garfinkel http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/08/bad_java/index.html The vast majority of the high-profile attempts to use Java to create major desktop applications have failed. The reasons are straightforward. Java hype is built on the promulgation of two Big Lies. Number one: Java is as fast, or faster, than other programming languages. And Number two: Java is "portable" -- it is "write-once, run-everywhere" -- in other words, a Java program can be written once and then run on any kind of computer or operating system. But five years after Java's introduction, it is still slow and cumbersome, and not only has the "write-once, run-everywhere" promise not been delivered on, it's also turned out to not even be necessary.

Java is far from even being the first attempt at portability. Let's not forget that the original motivation behind the C* language, way back in the early 1970s, was to create a portable computer language. The theory was that a programmer would be able to take a program written in C and be able to run it on different computers simply by recompiling* the source code. And to this end, C has been tremendously successful. I have many programs that can compile and run on Windows, on Intel-based Unix workstations and even on Sun Ultra-SPARC servers. One of the advantages of Java over C was supposed to be that programs would be able to migrate from computer to computer without having to be recompiled. But while the portability works most of the time, Java is not, and never will be, a replacement for C or its successor C++.

The creators of Java tried to make a better C++. But they ended up with a language that is ugly, hard to read, and which requires an inordinate amount of typing because of a variety of pedagogical restrictions imposed by Java's creators. They ended up with a slow mess. - - - - - - - - - - - - Tue Mar 6 01:33:58 2001 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 01:45:17 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [203.195.140.60]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E0D4A0FF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f269noe01453; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:19:50 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: updating the kernel? References: X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 06 Mar 2001 15:19:50 +0530 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/180 X-Sequence-Number: 2357 Hi Sahil, >>>>> ""Sahil" == "Sahil Gupta <- NET4U" > writes: Sahil> My system currently has 2.2.18 and I wish to upgrade to Sahil> the most recent one without reinstalling the whole system Sahil> and with least downtime. I don't have physical access to Sahil> my system. This can be tricky. After you download and install the new kernel, you will have to make that kernel the default, because you don't have access to the system while it is booting. And, if the new kernel does'nt boot for some reason, you will need someone to select the old kernel again while it's booting. In short, if uptime is paramount to you, don't try it. Lokesh. -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:16:23 2001 Received: from ems.hclinsys.com (unknown [203.90.70.242]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353504A195 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hclinsys.com ([203.90.70.251]) by ems.hclinsys.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id PAA21007 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:11:24 +0530 (IST) Received: from hclinsys.com (IDENT:root@mispmo [151.8.1.24]) by hclinsys.com mailho (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id PAA06463 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:06:32 +0530 Received: from hclinsys.com (IDENT:root@[151.8.20.52]) by hclinsys.com mispmo (8.9.3/SCA-6.6) with ESMTP id PAA17160 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:04:01 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA4B12B.9A9BC405@hclinsys.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:13:07 +0530 From: Subashini Organization: HCL Infosystems ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Modem with linux 7.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/181 X-Sequence-Number: 2358 Hi, I am in need of modem to work under linux 7.0.If anybody can suggest a modem to buy?(i have tried with dax internal 56kbps modem.PPPd error is there.,pls comment about other modems wihere linux driver is available?). Rgds and thanks, suba From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:18:44 2001 Received: from MailAndNews.com (unknown [199.29.68.123]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77A454A198 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from system2 [203.190.131.2] (vikcy@mailandnews.com) by MailAndNews.com; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:04:38 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: MailAndNews.com; Tue, 6 Mar 01 05:04:38 -0500 Message-ID: <005101c0a624$f4f05b00$0b01a8c0@stpn.soft.net> From: "Vikram Sachdeva" To: References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> Subject: Re: env variables? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:31:40 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/182 X-Sequence-Number: 2359 To list all variables at shell prompt in bash just type set and in c-shell just type setenv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "Pune Lug (E-mail)" ; "Delhi Lug (E-mail)" Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:05 PM Subject: [linux-delhi] env variables? > how do i list all the system environment variables on my machine > > harshal > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:26:33 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7804A195 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (Polaris@adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA24234 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:25:05 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:16:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3AA4B12B.9A9BC405@hclinsys.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/183 X-Sequence-Number: 2360 Hi there, I currently have my Web-Server logging all logs to access_log files, I have one file per VHost. What I want is somehow to make it so that each month has a new access_log file. It is possible I've seen it elsewhere, anyone know how? Cheers, Sahil From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:34:57 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F9849EFE for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:34:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SNMC00.M9S for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:59:00 -0500 Message-ID: <02e601c0a628$28dfeb80$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: updating the kernel? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:57:59 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/184 X-Sequence-Number: 2361 Hi, > My system currently has 2.2.18 and I wish to upgrade to the most recent one > without reinstalling the whole system and with least downtime. I don't have > physical access to my system. don't upgrade the kernel of a remote system unless u hav a major security issue or if u need the kernel just for the new features. If u wan't to jump to the 2.4 series kernel, then u might be better off by having a new system set up and then transfering all the data to the new system, and then after the transfer is over, decomission the old system. Otherwise if u just wan't to keep in the 2.2 series, then don't do an upgrade. I don't think that the newer 2.2 kernels hav any major security fix! It is always tricky to set up a new kernel, esp if u r doing this remotely. And for any remote server if downtime is imp, then never do it. Not unless u know what u wan't and u r sure that there is going to be some knowledgeable staff at your hosting/colocation centre who can select a different kernel to boot in case anything goes wrong during a reboot. I always get a new system if things like glibc or kernel need any major changes. And then do a reinstall on the new system. I wud also suggest that for any future remote servers, either install red-hat or debian. RedHat is good for the variety of software that u can find as rpms, and debian has probably the best method of upgrading packages. In fact if u r comfortable with debian then always install it on remote servers. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:53:29 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB85C4A165 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SOG200.N08 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:16:50 -0500 Message-ID: <02eb01c0a62a$a856c530$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com> Subject: Re: Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:15:51 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/185 X-Sequence-Number: 2362 Hi, Intresting stuff! Though i must say that right now java is the best u can do to develop portable and very easily maintainable apps. E.g. Take borland's jbuilder. the basic program is same across windows, linux and solaris. Only a very few platform specific things are different on these different platforms. This is the best example of an app written in java that i hav right now. Also for something like web applications, this portablity (esp. with the newer jdk 1.2.2 and 1.3 environments) makes even more sense. Here at my office, we develop java applications under windows, test it under windows and then deploy them on linux. This gives us extremely scalable applications which run quite fast and which are fast to develop and deploy. Nothing beats the war file for deployment. It has saved me lots of time when i hav had to send an updated site to the net, just package everything as a war, deploy and test it on a local machine, and then repackage it with target environment properties and deploy! Doing the same thing with php3/cgi or asp requires me to waste a lot of time with ftp or with something like vnc or telnet! With java servlets this is not an issue. For server based apps, i feel that speed is not really an issue with java. With modern web app servers you can scale any java based app to handle almost all kinds of web loads. The only issue is cost. And also with modern java runtime environments this is getting to be a lesser issue with each passing day. Tell me abt any other technology which u can deploy for quite low cost for a small site, which can scale to handle any kind of loads. The only competetive solution to java based web development happens to come from microsoft. Java for client might be slow, not completely portable, it is a resource hog, but on the server java is probably one of the best platforms that you have right now. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r PS: I find it real funny that ppl say that an environment is bad, but don't give an alternative that is actually better. We all know that windows is bad, linux is good, but can u really replace all the windows desktops with linux desktops for average users, the kind who use ms office and ms outlook? From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:54:26 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3DB4A2E6 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SOJD00.Q98 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:18:49 -0500 Message-ID: <02f001c0a62a$edf4e220$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <3AA4B12B.9A9BC405@hclinsys.com> Subject: Re: Modem with linux 7.0 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:18:02 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/186 X-Sequence-Number: 2363 Hi, > I am in need of modem to work under linux 7.0.If anybody can suggest > a modem to buy?(i have tried with dax internal 56kbps modem.PPPd error > is there.,pls comment about other modems wihere linux driver is > available?). Most of the newer internal 56kbps modems are the so called Winmodems, and they normally don't work under linux. If u hav such a modem, then u can try www.linmodems.org though. Otherwise if u hav any external modem connected using a serial cable, then u don't need to install any drivers. All the modern 56k modems hav a fairly standard command set. u just need to use a dialer to dial using a modem. Search the howtos or the archives of this list on instructions for setting up a modem for dial up internet access. PC Quest also carried some nice articles on this, chk out at www.pcquest.com/linux . Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:55:44 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986464A319 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SOLF00.IA1 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: <02f801c0a62b$1ac13c90$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:19:11 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/187 X-Sequence-Number: 2364 Hi, > I currently have my Web-Server logging all logs to access_log files, I have > one file per VHost. What I want is somehow to make it so that each month > has a new access_log file. It is possible I've seen it elsewhere, anyone > know how? Use logrotate. It comes standard with red hat linux (i don't know abt the other distros) Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 02:59:36 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1E44A00F for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA26224 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:58:10 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:49:28 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <02f801c0a62b$1ac13c90$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/188 X-Sequence-Number: 2365 again slakware. -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Ambar Roy Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:49 AM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Logging Apache Monthly Hi, > I currently have my Web-Server logging all logs to access_log files, I have > one file per VHost. What I want is somehow to make it so that each month > has a new access_log file. It is possible I've seen it elsewhere, anyone > know how? Use logrotate. It comes standard with red hat linux (i don't know abt the other distros) Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 03:24:30 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091154A196 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SPXC00.28P for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:48:48 -0500 Message-ID: <033001c0a62f$1e9e04c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:48:00 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/189 X-Sequence-Number: 2366 Hi Sahil, > again slakware. Just do a 'man logrotate' to see if it is installed, or else just search for it at freshmeat and then follow the instructions there. RH is auto configured to use logrotate for all the standard logs, and I think that so shud be slackware. Also on a side note, why on earth did u use slackware for a remote comp. Is this comp quite old? Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 03:28:52 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74364A18B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28596 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:27:25 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:18:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <033001c0a62f$1e9e04c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/190 X-Sequence-Number: 2367 When I started I got someone to install the "recommended" Linux for a Web-Server. So that's what they did. No logrotate is not currently installed, so I shall go and get it from freshmeat. cheers, Sahil -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Ambar Roy Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 3:18 AM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Logging Apache Monthly Hi Sahil, > again slakware. Just do a 'man logrotate' to see if it is installed, or else just search for it at freshmeat and then follow the instructions there. RH is auto configured to use logrotate for all the standard logs, and I think that so shud be slackware. Also on a side note, why on earth did u use slackware for a remote comp. Is this comp quite old? Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 03:31:47 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B5A49F4D for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:31:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28756 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:30:21 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:21:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <033001c0a62f$1e9e04c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/191 X-Sequence-Number: 2368 nothing at all on freshmeat in regard to logrotate. -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Ambar Roy Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 3:18 AM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Logging Apache Monthly Hi Sahil, > again slakware. Just do a 'man logrotate' to see if it is installed, or else just search for it at freshmeat and then follow the instructions there. RH is auto configured to use logrotate for all the standard logs, and I think that so shud be slackware. Also on a side note, why on earth did u use slackware for a remote comp. Is this comp quite old? Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 04:20:11 2001 Received: from gnu.org (unknown [203.195.142.64]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC77349F05 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lsetia@localhost) by gnu.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f26CNJf01132; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:53:19 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: milkyway.net.in: lsetia set sender to lsetia78@yahoo.com using -f To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant References: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com> <02eb01c0a62a$a856c530$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-please-use: GNU software X-listening-to: Jim Morrison X-personal-homepage: (Still!) Under Construction From: Lokesh Setia Date: 06 Mar 2001 17:53:19 +0530 In-Reply-To: <02eb01c0a62a$a856c530$8900000a@aclindia.com> Message-ID: Lines: 54 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Archive-Number: 200103/192 X-Sequence-Number: 2369 >>>>> "Ambar" == Ambar Roy writes: [snipped] Ambar> PS: I find it real funny that ppl say that an environment Ambar> is bad, but don't give an alternative that is actually Ambar> better. We all know that windows is bad, linux is good, but Ambar> can u really replace all the windows desktops with linux Ambar> desktops for average users, the kind who use ms office and Ambar> ms outlook? Hmm. This is known as Fallacy of Amphiboly. Words like "bad", "better" don't mean anything by themselves, and you are mixing them out of context. If you need to use an application that's only available on MS-Windows, then go ahead - there's nothing one can do. But, by the same argument, if you need to use Galeon (my favorite web browser), you'll need to go to Linux, sorry. What is good and what is bad is only a matter of perspective. Some people seem to appreciate what companies like Microsoft has been doing for years, some grin about it. It's only that the latter have been increasing in number since some time ;-). The first thing Linux offers is Freedom -- freedom to improve, freedom to use your own Windowmanager, freedom to switch to MS_Windows if you don't like Linux. I personally don't do Windows because: 1. I'm not the click-click-gui kind of person. I prefer Emacs/gcc over VC++ IDE. It's my personal choice, and I don't laugh at people who like to use an IDE. 2. I don't approve what MS does. Surely, they have some products for which people have yet to find alternatives, but I believe they have done more harm than good for the computing industry. Most people don't seem to realize the embrace-and-extend philosophy that MSFT has. Sir Richard Stallman summarizes it well in this article: http://weblog.mercurycenter.com/ejournal/stories/storyReader$664 3. Linux _is_ the future, and I wanna be a part of it. Also, I understand that you work in ACL, where as a matter of a corporate decision you _have_ to work in win2k/java. I can thus, understand why you have strong liking and justification for both of these, and defend them whenever you get a chance. I too, would probably have acted in a similar way. Bye, Lokesh. -- Cricket scoreboard for linux For more info, visit http://scoreboard.sourceforge.net From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 04:41:12 2001 Received: from eth.net (unknown [202.9.145.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44EDD4A1CF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net ([202.9.169.170]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:57:10 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA55463.497B097B@eth.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:19:31 -0500 From: V Suresh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Modem with linux 7.0 References: <3AA4B12B.9A9BC405@hclinsys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/193 X-Sequence-Number: 2370 By the way, there is nothing called linux 7.0 as you mentioned. You should make it as Redhat 7.0 or the distro's version. Linux should be accompanied with its kernel version number. Hope you got it. Subashini wrote: > > Hi, > I am in need of modem to work under linux 7.0.If anybody can suggest > a modem to buy?(i have tried with dax internal 56kbps modem.PPPd error > is there.,pls comment about other modems wihere linux driver is > available?). > Rgds and thanks, > suba > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr -- ************************************* V Suresh Emai: suresh-grl@eth.net vsuresh@samuelsmail.com Homepage: www16.brinkster.com/vsuresh ************************************* Powered By Linux 2.2.16 ************************************* From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 04:41:38 2001 Received: from eth.net (unknown [202.9.145.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AFA4A2DA for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net ([202.9.169.170]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:57:33 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA5563F.B3646AC8@eth.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:27:27 -0500 From: V Suresh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: env variables? References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/194 X-Sequence-Number: 2371 To hell with Harshal *&^(*@ Vaidya. Why doesn't this fellow remove the bloody bull shit signature? It is indeed a waste and utter bull shit to spend time and download this F%***r's signature. Why doesn't the list administrator take care of this? The admin should be strict, and ensure that the messages aren't long, plain text, and decent. Mr.Admin, take action. Make this list a perfect one. "Harshal "F&&@#r" Vaidya (CTS)" wrote: > > how do i list all the system environment variables on my machine > > harshal > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: InterScan_Disclaimer.txt > InterScan_Disclaimer.txt Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: 7bit > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------ > The mailing list archives are available at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi -- ************************************* V Suresh Emai: suresh-grl@eth.net vsuresh@samuelsmail.com Homepage: www16.brinkster.com/vsuresh ************************************* Powered By Linux 2.2.16 ************************************* From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 04:43:33 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96454A2D4 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:43:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.151]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA03943 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:05:41 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2DE63760; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:09:39 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:09:39 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cyber law Message-ID: <20010306180938.A412@black-satan> References: <20010306102735.C581@black-satan> <028401c0a5fb$3b1cee60$4dbe9cca@fluff> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <028401c0a5fb$3b1cee60$4dbe9cca@fluff>; from ghane@dotxtra.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:06:38PM +0800 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/195 X-Sequence-Number: 2372 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:06:38PM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pankaj Kaushal" > > >> You don't have to be admiral of a fleet to understand what >> bullshit it actully is. Eat This: A policeman can without >> warrant enter search seize a computer he thinks is >> or may be used for "Hacking". Obiviously he can't enter your >> house he can do that to a machine which is accessible from a >> public place so he sits in the middle of chawdi bazzar >> takes out his laptop and pings your pc Oh my god! your >> machine is acessable publically. > >Excellent point. Well made, and summarizes the issues well. > >Someone remind me, what _is_ the issue? Apropos? No issue just an observasion . Cuz If we all know and understand I think we all do when we are at the frontier of a technology that no one understands /Have you seen the bloomberg australian news/ We are the one who understand how easily it is to put someone/anyone in jail with the IT act. As We are the one on the frontier We would be the one in jail. Patrice>Because the day will come (has come?) that Internet/ technology etc. will Patrice>be (is almost) mainstream elite culture, and that day us people will be Patrice>kicked out like unwashed, stinky misers. Indeed, it already happened in Patrice>the official 'development' circles re: 'Internet and the Third World'... -Patrice Riemens Another observation--- They (media) shift the attention around the Internet to create consumers of the Internet instead of user's. They are afraid of user's and call them Hackers.Because users are not passive and not happy with that status so slowly close the door and leave users/hacker out the regulated internet ie THE WWW and EMAIL. email is OK because its one to one. don't allow people to own IP address and don't allow them to be producers or hosts. instead make laws to restrict people using the internet because obiviously, the internet belongs to the companies and the state who brought it to us. We are only consumers and are incapable of thinking and producing ---end quoted text--- -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:09:41 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A591C4A21F for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000011284; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:28:18 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01304; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:32:16 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.57304.498706.690299@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:32:16 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers In-Reply-To: <013001c0a5fc$9431b0c0$b3ee38ca@europa> References: <013001c0a5fc$9431b0c0$b3ee38ca@europa> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/196 X-Sequence-Number: 2373 Hi Aditya, Let's keep the discussion focussed Linux in the future, then. OK? Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal writes: Aditya> Hi Rahul, I don't know what culty tendencies you saw in my Aditya> mail. I am no spiritual or cult leader. I have a deep Aditya> interest in science fiction and am a futurist. Aditya> The reason you did not find any Linux related matter in Aditya> the body because it was a protest posting. Don't Aditya> misunderstand me. I have joined this list to gain from Aditya> Linux expertise of all it members. Aditya> I hope you can understand what I have put to you through Aditya> this mail. Aditya> Bye, Aditya> Aditya Okhal -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:12:36 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704854A2CF for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000025253; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:31:45 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01502; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:35:47 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.57515.781132.972791@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:35:47 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Cc: "Pune Lug (E-mail)" Subject: env variables? In-Reply-To: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00951@ctsinpunsxua> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/197 X-Sequence-Number: 2374 Harshal, I'll very reluctantly have to put you on list vacation for some time for a while if you insist on sending 1/2KB of unsolicited and irrelevant disclaimer with each post. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Harshal" == CTS writes: Harshal> [1 ] how do i list all the Harshal> system environment variables on my machine Harshal> harshal [2 InterScan_Disclaimer.txt ] This Harshal> e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole Harshal> use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain Harshal> confidential and privileged information. If you are not Harshal> the intended recipient, please contact the sender by Harshal> reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original Harshal> message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, Harshal> dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this Harshal> email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is Harshal> strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at Harshal> http://www.cognizant.com -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:16:00 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7260B4A309 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000021163; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:35:19 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01545; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:39:22 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.57730.896278.122908@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:39:22 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: samba? ; Attn: Dear List Admin In-Reply-To: <20010306105816.A907@black-satan> References: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00944@ctsinpunsxua> <20010306105816.A907@black-satan> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/198 X-Sequence-Number: 2375 Hi Pankaj, My responses under... >>>>> "Pankaj" == Pankaj Kaushal writes: Pankaj> On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:58:10PM +0530, Harshal Vaidya Pankaj> (CTS) wrote: >> [snip] Pankaj> Please remove the following message from your mails if you Pankaj> can not please use some other way to mail to this list Pankaj> This is my last request to you and if I see more message Pankaj> with this note I will opt for alt.animal.husbandry Pankaj> treatment for you. I've already written to Harshal about this. >> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole >> use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >> and privileged information. If you are not the intended >> recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and >> destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised >> review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or >> copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this >> e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at >> http://www.cognizant.com >> Pankaj> Dear list Admin as you can clearly see this type of Pankaj> message is not in the spirit of free software. Do you Pankaj> think person with such a mind frame should even be allowed Pankaj> to be on the mailing list let alone ask questions and get Pankaj> answers. My personal reading is that it's not Harshal but his mail server who attaches the disclaimer to each outgoing message -- I could be wrong, of course. Pankaj> Mr List Admin is ther a way to ignore or not get messages Pankaj> from someone Pls let me know if mojordomo provides Pankaj> somethin Working on it. Pankaj> Mr CTS If I see more of such messages I will definitely do Pankaj> somethig about it because you solely are the cause for the Pankaj> recent flame war's. And still you continue to flash your Pankaj> stupid signature. Relax, the situation is under control. You don't need to bash each and every violator of list protocols -- I'm there to do that. Advantage: I get the blame and you can continue being Mr Nice Guy ;-) Pankaj> ---end quoted text--- Regards, -- Raju -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:24:48 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408994A10E for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:24:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id SAA0000022858; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:43:19 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01569; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:47:16 +0530 From: Raju Mathur Message-ID: <15012.58204.361490.39629@localhost.localdomain> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:47:16 +0530 (IST) To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: MESSAGE FOR ALL In-Reply-To: <002201c0a608$290f6d80$d3e238ca@europa> References: <002201c0a608$290f6d80$d3e238ca@europa> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@linux-delhi.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.5) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/199 X-Sequence-Number: 2376 This thread is dead. Please bury it. Please do not respond to it. Please try to talk about Linux instead of airing your personal likes and dislikes on the list. Regards, -- Raju >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Okhal writes: Aditya> Hi Everyone, This message is an effort to limit the Aditya> unnecessary clashes we are having over the net. If I have Aditya> offended anyone, I accept my mistake and give my heartfelt Aditya> apology. Image of me getting projected through my messages Aditya> is false. I am NO LEFTIST-FASCIST, CULT LEADER or for that Aditya> matter SPIRITUAL LEADER. I an NO FANATIC. I am a simple Aditya> seeker of knowledge. All this confrontation and snipping Aditya> at each other is un-productive, Intellectually draining Aditya> and degrading. Aditya> This list is for sharing and pooling of the Linux Aditya> expertise of all Delhi Chapter members. I am just a novice Aditya> to Linux. I have great deal to learn and I expect you all Aditya> to be my guides. Aditya> Please don't make any troubling comments. This is a Aditya> sincere message. Aditya> In end I want to say - Aditya> "To Err is human" Aditya> Bye, Aditya> With Regards, Aditya> Aditya Okhal Aditya> PN - Neil, Sunil Dhaka, Ambar Roy and Pankaj Kaushal I Aditya> wish you knew me in person. Actually It all started with Aditya> misunderstanding between Neil and me. In my reply I was Aditya> not attacking Neil. Maybe, my writing style is a result of Aditya> heavy and heady cocktail of science fiction Aditya> readings. Maybe I should have been lot more diplomatic or Aditya> for that matter more simple. I don't know. Aditya> Actually Neil's replys were ticking me off. I felt that I Aditya> was unnecessarily being behaved to in degrading manner. I Aditya> hope you understand. Please don't send any more bossy and Aditya> judgemental replies. Aditya> ------------------------------------------------ An alpha Aditya> version of a web based tool to manage your subscription Aditya> with this mailing list is at Aditya> http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr -- Raju Mathur raju@kandalaya.org http://kandalaya.org/ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:39:02 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7764B4A06C for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SW5O00.BB0 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:03:24 -0500 Message-ID: <036401c0a641$eba9e940$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:02:41 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/200 X-Sequence-Number: 2377 > nothing at all on freshmeat in regard to logrotate. looks like that logrotate is a red hat thing.. u cud always set up a monthly cron job to do this log rotation. Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:41:44 2001 Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30604A0A6 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:41:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([61.11.246.180]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f26DebQ06272 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:10:37 +0530 Message-ID: <005801c0a642$63c9dd40$b4f60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: References: <013001c0a5fc$9431b0c0$b3ee38ca@europa> Subject: Re: Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:06:02 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/201 X-Sequence-Number: 2378 FOR THE NOTICE OF ALL (BUT "YOU") LISTERS. THE FOLLOWING IS A PIECE OF PURE SCIENCE FICTION BY OUR MODERN SCIENCE FICTION WRITER MR ADITYA OKHAL. DONT FLAME ME IF YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS ANYWHERE NEAR SCIENCE FICTION, THE AUTHOR FIRMLY BELIEVES THAT > Hi, > > Can't a person speak his mind. It's a free > country. I don't believe in launching pointed > personal attacks. I had certain experience last > night which required a big protest. So, I protested. > > As for this mailing list. I appreciate its role. > But I have no role models. I acknowledge > greatness without becoming a follower. > > I have certain faults. So what? > > As for Sunil Dhaka's opinion that I don't belong here > because I said something, in general, which made him > uncomfortable, I want to laugh. I think he must be a harish > chander. I want him to wake up. Wake out of this self-imposed > psuedo ethical slumber. There are no saints, only sinners. > SCIENCE FICTION HAI NA?? r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aditya Okhal" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: [linux-delhi] Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers > Hi Rahul, > > I don't know what culty tendencies you saw > in my mail. I am no spiritual or cult leader. > I have a deep interest in science fiction and am > a futurist. > > The reason you did not find any Linux related > matter in the body because it was a protest posting. > Don't misunderstand me. I have joined this list to gain > from Linux expertise of all it members. > > I hope you can understand what I have put to you > through this mail. > > > Bye, > > Aditya Okhal > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 05:55:55 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B454A0FE for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id TAA0000002521; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:14:38 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:shivjm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01376 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:39:36 +0530 From: Vamp Reply-To: shiv@linux-delhi.org To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: MESSAGE FOR ALL Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:37:13 +0530 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29] Content-Type: text/plain References: <002201c0a608$290f6d80$d3e238ca@europa> In-Reply-To: <002201c0a608$290f6d80$d3e238ca@europa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01030613393600.01345@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/202 X-Sequence-Number: 2379 Hey Aditya, Look, this is actually meant for the benefit of all the linux-delhi members -- COOL IT! This list is meant for discussing *technical*, *linux-related* issues (atleast, as far as I can tell). How about you guys start from scratch? And try to keep the cusswords of the list? Thanks. -- -- Shiv JM -- VampFoot -- Lord of the Demons (and Computers) -- shiv@linux-delhi.org /=\ reality@kandalaya.org -- Check out http://www.geocities.com/vampfoot From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 06:05:24 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89FA4A11C for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SXDO00.PA9 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: <038601c0a645$9b6a40c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <20010306003453.B914@black-satan> Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:29:04 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/203 X-Sequence-Number: 2380 > I don't want to become the next alan cox > Yes I can take a freebsd cd, > run a awk script through it and replace > Free with GNU and have my own GNUBSD > talk about making changes. :) > > But the thing is I don't want that > what any guy wants is recognition in the group s/he > is in and even if I do my level best with BSDLite > I won't get a place in the 20 some ppl in the kernel team > neither will my code. > > So why not run and study mach and The HURD and try to code. > :) is it a bad reason. > > But the reason why BSD is kinda (ok) is cuz of the tightness > of code but then, i would rather run openbsd. that is the whole issue with freebsd.. i agree that the maintainers hav a very strict coding standard and credit policies. Basically what u wanna say is that u use Linux because u wan't to contribute to it and get credited for it too. (I might be wrong here!) But this is something with a particullar project, and not all projects with bsd licence are like this. My original point being that just because something does not follow gpl does not mean that it is crap or that it wud not allow you to contribute. You sounded like a person who is ill informed abt the licenses (which i am glad to know that u aren't!!!). Also following your logic, u shudn't be using Apache as it does not use the GPL license!!!! If u hav a problem with a project, it is a different issue, but to blame that on the licence is just funny!!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 06:25:41 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A3F7F4A1AC for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailweb25.rediffmail.com (unknown [203.199.83.29]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85E6F4A2F0 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6570 invoked by uid 510); 6 Mar 2001 07:18:47 -0000 Date: 6 Mar 2001 07:18:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20010306071847.6569.qmail@mailweb25.rediffmail.com> Received: from unknown (202.9.151.131) by rediffmail.com via HTTP; 06 Mar 2001 07:18:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Want to know Prerequesties for Unix Internals From: "Eswar Nadiminti" Content-ID: Content-type: text/plain Content-Description: Body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/204 X-Sequence-Number: 2381 Hi Linux gaints I would like to learn unix internals, please let me know what are prerequesties and good books for learning. Thanking you Eswar _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 07:03:38 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E30904A1E6 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:03:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:25:06 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:25:06 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C0096E@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: "'linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org'" Subject: RE: Want to know Prerequesties for Unix Internals Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:35:20 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/205 X-Sequence-Number: 2382 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" its a little old , but refer to maurice bach -- the design of the unix os. harshal vaidya. -----Original Message----- From: Eswar Nadiminti [mailto:eswarn@rediffmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2001 12:49 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: [linux-delhi] Want to know Prerequesties for Unix Internals Hi Linux gaints I would like to learn unix internals, please let me know what are prerequesties and good books for learning. Thanking you Eswar _____________________________________________________ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com ------------------------------------------------ An alpha version of a web based tool to manage your subscription with this mailing list is at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; name="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="InterScan_Disclaimer.txt" This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary-- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 07:07:41 2001 Received: from ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (unknown [203.197.89.77]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 12C3B4A149 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from 208.29.253.253 by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:29:16 +0530 Received: by ctsinpunsxia.cognizant.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:29:16 +0530 Message-ID: <49532EE860A3D411812A00508B690B29C00970@ctsinpunsxua> From: "Harshal Vaidya (CTS)" To: Cc: "Delhi Lug (E-mail)" Subject: RE: how about shutting up? Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:39:26 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary" X-Archive-Number: 200103/206 X-Sequence-Number: 2383 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------InterScan_NT_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" so you proved that a simple mail with an attached disclaimer looks to you like ... Pankaj Kaushal is a F**ing leftist corporate A**hole Mthaf**ker. well then i would surely like to send you many such mails. harshal vaidya. -----Original Message----- From: Pankaj Kaushal [mailto:apenguinhead@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2001 17:13 To: Harshal Vaidya (CTS) Cc: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: how about shutting up? On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:32:42AM +0530, Harshal Vaidya (CTS) wrote: >yo pal , > > i guess you got some problem with my mail having disclaimer attached to >it. Yes I have a problem why do u have a problem removing it. It is strictly against what I belive in . I have asked to humbly a number of times its you who has a additude problem not me. What if i had this as my signature -- Vaidya (CTS) is a F**ing leftist corporate A**hole Mthaf**ker. Would you ignore it . your signature is an abuse for everything i belive in. > well if you dont like it ignore it but why are you complaining about it >like > a lamer . and for the flame war's goin on on the list its not the >disclaimer > which is causing it but some bufoons like you who got no work and got big >attitude > problems which they display it on the list. > > and by the way thanks for that samba help. don't thank cuz now on u won't get any. > harshal vaidya. Y do'nt you get urself a free pop account for the lug list ---end quoted text--- -- Paul's Law: You can't fall off the floor. ................................ 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Internet: http://www.intindia.com. As part of our expansion plan, we are introducing modules on Linux, Apache,Qmail,Sendmail,BIND for DNS etc to begin with. We are looking for association with Linux professionals in the undermentioned areas: a) Courseware preparation b) Practicals & Laboratory work c) Linux course project work d) Imparting Instructions e) Linux based application projects at Corporate clients. If any, of the above areas interest to u either on Full-time/part-time basis, pl forward yr details with specific area of interest at the earliest. On receipt of the same I will schedule a meeting. Regards A Sengupta > -----Original Message----- > From: Arun [SMTP:arunper@usa.net] > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:01 AM > To: ILUG - > Subject: [linux-delhi] system admin job > > Arun wrote: > hi all, > I am looking for an opening in system administration of Linux. > My details are : > I have been working as linux system administrator and web developer > for > a company > for an year now. My area of work includes maintaining samba server as pdc > for > about 21 win-nt clients, administring apache server for cgi-perl and PHP > support with PostGre as database. Maintaining a dhcp and > nfs server,Firewall and ppp server and client for connecting two networks > Besides that I have an elementary mail server running(sendmail) > for internal two different networks of about 45 PCs. > Besides the maintenance work these things have been established by me. > I am also doing programming for them in CGI-perl,ASP and javascript. > Besides that I am comfortable in nis and ftp. > > I had done MBA some time back and now am properly into IT. > > If anyone has something for me please let me know. > > > best wishes > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 09:12:20 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2424A40F for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bigfoot.com by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id WAA0000005423; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:05:28 +0530 (IST) Received: (qmail 1560 invoked by uid 500); 6 Mar 2001 16:28:51 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:58:51 +0530 From: Sandip Bhattacharya To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant Message-ID: <20010306215851.A958@bigfoot.com> Mail-Followup-To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org References: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com>; from mithun.b@egurucool.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:33:58AM -0800 X-HomePage: http://www.sandipb.net X-OS: Linux kajaal.home 2.4.2 i586 unknown X-Archive-Number: 200103/208 X-Sequence-Number: 2385 Hi Mithun! Another Java bashing session ??? ;) The article is too shallow in it's content - a typical piece from a "techno-journalist" growing up in every nook and corner now a days. However, as always I have some comments to make.;) > Lies. Number one: Java is as fast, or faster, than other programming 1. Java is NOT fast, atleast where it should matter - desktop apps. This is definitely the most worrying part of this field. The speed disadvantage is in two sides - one, in starting of the JVM and two, in executing applications. In server end applications, the first reason is not applicable as they are ongoing processes. And in point number two, it can't be EVER be as fast as native apps because of it's bytecode interpretations. However, I have yet to see the performance of native code Java compilers, but again they can't be as fast too because of several reasons. Just comparing with apps in C/C++, when you trash memory with overrunning pointers, what happens? You take the machine down. In Java , an exception stops the program. In C, you keep worrying about memory-leaks, in Java you have a background garbage collection system. All these slow down the code. In C/C++ you ARE on your own, in Java the JVM does a lot of homework for you. If they EVER make Java as fast as C/C++, it's got to be a major science discovery like, einstein's theory being proven wrong or something... Java has NEVER been touted as being fast, atleast by people who know Java or deal with it. This is a lie, or the result of some marketing propaganda by clueless sales folks. > languages. And Number two: Java is "portable" -- it is "write-once, 2. Java IS more portable than any other language. Attempts to make C portable have somewhat succeeded, howver C makes it too easy to get system specific, while Java makes it very difficult. While both in C(to some extent) and Java, if you want you CAN make the program portable, ANSI C is too limited to give an user complete freedom to design an app)e.g. in areas like GUI, etc. Using Java you can make even full fledged GUI apps portable. Again it is all in the programmers hands. You would know that. When a programmer knows that the s/w has to work on two different systems, he has a better chance to do it in Java than C/C++. >

Java is far from even being the first attempt at > portability. Let's not forget that the original motivation behind the > C* language, way back in > the early 1970s, was to create a portable computer language. The > theory was that a programmer would be able to take a program written > in C and be able to run it on different computers simply by > recompiling* the > source code. And to this end, C has been tremendously successful. I In those time only *nix systems existed(i think), it was easier to make C runs the same way on somewhat similar machines. No one had even dreamt in their wildest nightmares about the onslaught on Windoze. ;) > have many programs that can compile and run on Windows, on Intel-based > Unix workstations and even on Sun Ultra-SPARC servers. Name one popular application that compiles cleanly on both windows and unix. And no, cygwin is not an option. ;) > recompiled. But while the portability works most of the time, Java is > not, and never will be, a replacement for C or its successor C++. Java can NEVER be a replacement for C/C++. That's a definite true. C/C++ is ireplaceable in system related software, and are the best tools for native development. However Java has it's strengths, and should be considered as an option in higher level applications. >

The creators of Java tried to make a better C++. But they ended > up with a language that is ugly, hard to read, and which requires an Ugly? This guy has never seen a Java code before - that is a definite true. Rather, he has never seen a perl-obfuscation contest entry in his lifetime!!! ;) Java and python are some of the most readable languages. > inordinate amount of typing because of a variety of pedagogical > restrictions imposed by Java's creators. They ended up with a slow > mess. That is true. Java has a lot of overhead for trivial applications. They are better off in some scripting languages. Regards, Sandip -- ------------------------------------- Sandip Bhattacharya sandipb @ bigfoot.com http://www.sandipb.net ------------------------------------- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 09:27:39 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3955A4A237 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.232]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA23701 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:49:32 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2E20762; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:51:51 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:51:51 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Message-ID: <20010306225151.B886@black-satan> References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <20010306003453.B914@black-satan> <038601c0a645$9b6a40c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <038601c0a645$9b6a40c0$8900000a@aclindia.com>; from ambarroy@iname.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:29:04PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/209 X-Sequence-Number: 2386 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:29:04PM +0530, Ambar Roy wrote: >> I don't want to become the next alan cox [snip] >> But the reason why BSD is kinda (ok) is cuz of the tightness >> of code but then, i would rather run openbsd. >that is the whole issue with freebsd.. i agree that the maintainers hav a >very strict coding standard and credit policies. Basically what u wanna say >is that u use Linux because u wan't to contribute to it and get credited for >it too. (I might be wrong here!) But this is something with a particullar >project, and not all projects with bsd licence are like this. My original >point being that just because something does not follow gpl does not mean >that it is crap or that it wud not allow you to contribute. You sounded like >a person who is ill informed abt the licenses (which i am glad to know that >u aren't!!!). Also following your logic, u shudn't be using Apache as it >does not use the GPL license!!!! If u hav a problem with a project, it is a >different issue, but to blame that on the licence is just funny!!! > ---end quoted text--- I don't say That any project which is not under GPL is crap. I do say that a lot don't I ;). What free s/w and free'ing s/w means to me is freeing the s/w from you not giving it away but getting away. Free bsd is too free. What this means is If freebsd community writes foo and bar copies it and implements it with "special improvements" in XYZOS 9.2 . foo can then "sell" that in binary and the freebsd community does not get the "special improvements" which they deserve cuz it is their code thats at the spine. This is where the viral GPL kicks ass. I find the bsd license BAD & *evil* because its the bsd license that *allowed* M$ to copy the TCP/IP stack. Just try some special stuff and u will see what winsock actully is . Its not about I writing some crap and gpl'ing or bsd'ing it. its about the community if the community shares and improves the code then NO ONE should be able to steal that code from them. I don't say every thing from "libc" to "human DNA" should be gpl'ed. Well! I want that to happen,:) but nothing, Not even GPL can be an answer to every problem. I understand that. There is nothing wrong with Apache Licence. I respect it . But some thing is definitely wrong with the netscape license. It sucks. The term "Open Source" Sucks as well. Call me old fashioned but I'll use GPL'ed stuff. -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 09:27:53 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B9949F1B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.194.232]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA23817 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:49:38 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CBE02761; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:13:12 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:13:11 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Message-ID: <20010306221311.A886@black-satan> References: <036401c0a641$eba9e940$8900000a@aclindia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <036401c0a641$eba9e940$8900000a@aclindia.com>; from ambarroy@iname.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:02:41PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/210 X-Sequence-Number: 2387 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:02:41PM +0530, Ambar Roy wrote: >> nothing at all on freshmeat in regard to logrotate. >looks like that logrotate is a red hat thing.. u cud always set up a monthly >cron job to do this log rotation. No its not a redhat thing I use logrotate on my home debian box as well as my debian webserver. and for your problem you can write a dirty bash script read the proftpd logrotate file for inspiration ;) and place in /etc/cron.monthly may be different in slackware. -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 09:50:27 2001 Received: from milano.teknema.com (milano.teknema.com [206.204.22.2]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9849F49F45 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:50:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from quake.m.teknema.com (quake.m.teknema.com [206.204.22.44]) by milano.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26591 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:43:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (anmol@localhost) by quake.m.teknema.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06538 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:45:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: quake.m.teknema.com: anmol owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:45:14 -0800 (PST) From: Anmol Khirbat X-Sender: anmol@quake.m.teknema.com To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: console apps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/211 X-Sequence-Number: 2388 Hi Console apps look different depending upon the type of terminal from where they were invoked. e.g slrn runs fine in a virtual console but produces funny characters and goofy colors when running in xterm or screen. Playing around with $TERM seems to help in some situations. I dont care much about the colors, but is there any easy way to get rid of the funny characters? bye :) Anmol From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 10:50:20 2001 Received: from ns1.glide.net.in (unknown [203.197.23.10]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBC14A255; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rahul ([61.11.246.219]) by ns1.glide.net.in (8.10.1/pre1.0-MySQL/8.10.1) with SMTP id f26In9Q02795; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:19:09 +0530 Message-ID: <00e201c0a66d$24cdff60$dbf60b3d@rahul> From: "Rahul Jindal" To: Cc: References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <20010306003453.B914@black-satan> <038601c0a645$9b6a40c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:07:03 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Archive-Number: 200103/212 X-Sequence-Number: 2389 hi guys, van anyone here volunteer to explain in 2-3 sentences the common prevelant licences (GPL, BSD, Apache and others) so that junta like me cud also make some sense of a lot of things on these walls. r /\ |-| |_| |_ ================== First, they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win -- MG ================== The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 20:04:11 2001 Received: from eth.net (mailserver2.ddsl.net [202.9.145.19]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0813049F43 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net ([202.9.169.135]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:23:38 +0530 Message-ID: <3AA59C91.F050D827@eth.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:27:29 -0500 From: V Suresh X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cyber law References: <20010306102735.C581@black-satan> <028401c0a5fb$3b1cee60$4dbe9cca@fluff> <20010306180938.A412@black-satan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/213 X-Sequence-Number: 2390 MR.Pankaj, I would like to know how you set those mail headers that I see from your mails, like X-Operating System -Debian black Satan, X_Crazy about - look ma, I use mutt, and the stuff. How do I set them? I use Netscape Messenger. Pankaj Kaushal wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:06:38PM +0800, Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Pankaj Kaushal" > > > > > >> You don't have to be admiral of a fleet to understand what > >> bullshit it actully is. Eat This: A policeman can without ************************************* V Suresh Emai: suresh-grl@eth.net vsuresh@samuelsmail.com Web: www16.brinkster.com/vsuresh Powered By Linux 2.2.16 ************************************* From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 20:16:45 2001 Received: from smtp.net4india.com (unknown [202.71.128.33]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C61B4A0AA for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [202.71.133.59] (helo=node5) by smtp.net4india.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #3) id 14aVIy-000493-00 for linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:42:05 +0530 Message-ID: <000801c0a6bd$46c1a720$01a8a8c0@node5> From: "Sunil Dhaka" To: References: Subject: Re: samba? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:45:41 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/214 X-Sequence-Number: 2391 > 3. Add a user name by doing following > useradd username > smbpasswd -a username You have missed out the smbadduser command to be issued before giving the smbpasswd command Further a samba user should map to a genuine unix user #smbadduser username:username Regards, Sunil Dhaka From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 21:27:25 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C9E4A0BD for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:27:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03206 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:25:53 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:16:57 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010306221311.A886@black-satan> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/215 X-Sequence-Number: 2392 I don't really know how to do this. Are you able to help me? -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Pankaj Kaushal Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 2:13 PM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Logging Apache Monthly On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:02:41PM +0530, Ambar Roy wrote: >> nothing at all on freshmeat in regard to logrotate. >looks like that logrotate is a red hat thing.. u cud always set up a monthly >cron job to do this log rotation. No its not a redhat thing I use logrotate on my home debian box as well as my debian webserver. and for your problem you can write a dirty bash script read the proftpd logrotate file for inspiration ;) and place in /etc/cron.monthly may be different in slackware. -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU ------------------------------------------------ The mailing list archives are available at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Tue Mar 6 21:32:09 2001 Received: from del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (unknown [202.56.230.12]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E824A10A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from del1.mantraonline.com ([202.56.230.1]) by del1smtpout.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9UAPB00.L0F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:15:11 -0500 Received: from europa ([202.56.213.91]) by del1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9SEXF01.Q77 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: <00f201c0a664$d6195a20$5bd538ca@europa> From: "Aditya Okhal" To: References: <013001c0a5fc$9431b0c0$b3ee38ca@europa> <005801c0a642$63c9dd40$b4f60b3d@rahul> Subject: Re: Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:12:24 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/216 X-Sequence-Number: 2393 Hi Rahul, I have already posted an apology. If you have any grudges please send them to me personally. And If you want to meet me personally then you are welcome to my house. Bye, Aditya Okhal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rahul Jindal" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers > FOR THE NOTICE OF ALL (BUT "YOU") LISTERS. THE FOLLOWING IS A PIECE OF PURE > SCIENCE FICTION BY OUR MODERN SCIENCE FICTION WRITER MR ADITYA OKHAL. DONT > FLAME ME IF YOU DON'T THINK THIS IS ANYWHERE NEAR SCIENCE FICTION, THE > AUTHOR FIRMLY BELIEVES THAT > > > Hi, > > > > Can't a person speak his mind. It's a free > > country. I don't believe in launching pointed > > personal attacks. I had certain experience last > > night which required a big protest. So, I protested. > > > > As for this mailing list. I appreciate its role. > > But I have no role models. I acknowledge > > greatness without becoming a follower. > > > > I have certain faults. So what? > > > > As for Sunil Dhaka's opinion that I don't belong here > > because I said something, in general, which made him > > uncomfortable, I want to laugh. I think he must be a harish > > chander. I want him to wake up. Wake out of this self-imposed > > psuedo ethical slumber. There are no saints, only sinners. > > > > SCIENCE FICTION HAI NA?? > > r /\ |-| |_| |_ > ================== > First, they ignore you. > Then they laugh at you. > Then they fight you. > Then you win -- MG > ================== > > The Northern Linux lug-northindia@yahoogroups.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aditya Okhal" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 10:46 AM > Subject: [linux-delhi] Rahul Jindal - Few more pointers > > > > Hi Rahul, > > > > I don't know what culty tendencies you saw > > in my mail. I am no spiritual or cult leader. > > I have a deep interest in science fiction and am > > a futurist. > > > > The reason you did not find any Linux related > > matter in the body because it was a protest posting. > > Don't misunderstand me. I have joined this list to gain > > from Linux expertise of all it members. > > > > I hope you can understand what I have put to you > > through this mail. > > > > > > Bye, > > > > Aditya Okhal > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > > your subscription with this mailing list is at > > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > An alpha version of a web based tool to manage > your subscription with this mailing list is at > http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/mj_wwwusr > From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 00:05:25 2001 Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F8294A03E for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue Mar 6 23:49:58 2001 To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:19:58 +0530 From: "manish k arya" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: manish_arya@lycos.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: hi qmail virtual user auth prob X-Sender-Ip: 203.197.192.201 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Length: 1173 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/217 X-Sequence-Number: 2394 hi! i m using qmail for mails.i have installed vpopmail qmailadmin,vqsignup and sqwebmail vpopmail for managing virtual domains and users on a server and qmailadmin is a web base frontend for managing users of a virtual domain vqsignup is a new user signup web base interface for a virtual domain , creating virtual users and sqwebmail is web based interface for checking mails for virtual users like hotmail or any other mail server users can check their mails from web base interfece ( sqwebmail) but the problem is that i want that they should be able 2 use netscape ot out look exp to send and recive mails i m facing the problem of authentication.because normally the authetication is made from /etc/passwd file but that is for system level user for virtual users i have installed a courier-imap server but it is not able to auth virtual users it gives some error in logs like ldap_simple_bind_s failed:cant contact LDAP server altough ldap is running on my server!!!!!!!!! pls help!!!!! manish Get 250 color business cards for FREE! at Lycos Mail http://mail.lycos.com/freemail/vistaprint_index.html From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 01:14:15 2001 Received: from stewart.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.155]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF254A0A9 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by stewart.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9UEIL00.10N for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:37:33 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01c0a6e5$f177dd60$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <013a01c0a5fd$1d2be9e0$b3ee38ca@europa> Subject: Re: Ambar Roy - To rmove your doubts Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:36:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/218 X-Sequence-Number: 2395 > There were no spiritual inputs in the posting. > I am surprised that Linux users can be so wane > so as to consider an opinion as spiritual. It was > an opinion based on a situation. I don't think you > know the context. If you feel offended by it, my > apologies. hey that was just a joke!! This has just proved that you don't hav a sense of humour!! and i never did feel offended! It is just that some1 made a funny remark, which i felt that i had to answer to!!! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r PS: my name is spelt as Ambar (2 a and no e!!) From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 01:20:24 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AC1F4A40F for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB7F4A015 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.linux-delhi.org by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id LAA0000009344; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:16:58 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by mail.linux-delhi.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02616; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:20:49 +0530 Message-Id: <200103070550.LAA02616@mail.linux-delhi.org> From: Raju Mathur To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Date: Wed Mar 7 11:20:49 IST 2001 Subject: [ADMIN] Unsubscribed users Reply-To: Raju Mathur X-Archive-Number: 200103/219 X-Sequence-Number: 2396 Unsubscribed the following addresses from the list due to recurring bounces: bugsetal@subdimension.com If you feel that your e-mail address has been unsubscribed by mistake, please send a message to raju@linux-delhi.org. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 02:07:36 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45B74A10E for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9UGGX00.22O for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:19:45 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01c0a6eb$d6e06750$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com><02eb01c0a62a$a856c530$8900000a@aclindia.com> Subject: Re: Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:18:32 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/220 X-Sequence-Number: 2397 Hi Lokesh, > I personally don't do Windows because: > 2. I don't approve what MS does. Surely, they have some products for > which people have yet to find alternatives, but I believe they have > done more harm than good for the computing industry. Most people > don't seem to realize the embrace-and-extend philosophy that MSFT > has. Sir Richard Stallman summarizes it well in this article: > http://weblog.mercurycenter.com/ejournal/stories/storyReader$664 I agree completely with you over this. MS is an evil company that does evil things, and till recently had some real bad products. The ms embrace and extend philosophy is probably something that shud be banned. But there are still a lot of ppl who use windows just because it makes them more productive, and the same goes for linux. Just that with windows the number is much larger! > 3. Linux _is_ the future, and I wanna be a part of it. Intresting thing.. In fact the reason i started using linux was that it was quite cool, and i cud hav a stable working thing that i cud run on my old 386 comp. (This was sometime around 1996) In those days I never used linux once because it was going to be the future. The future is something that no1 can predict, and who knows, perhaps in a few years we might hav something new. Personally i hav never used a technology just because it happens to be the fad of the month. I remember ppl doing the same thing with os/2 at one time! > Also, I understand that you work in ACL, where as a matter of a > corporate decision you _have_ to work in win2k/java. I can thus, > understand why you have strong liking and justification for both of > these, and defend them whenever you get a chance. I too, would > probably have acted in a similar way. This is an intresting thing. Here we do hav a corporate decition to work under java for developing web apps, but that is a decetion that all of us made after studying all the other competing technologies. We are primararily into developing web and wireless applications, for which we have found java to be the best platform. This is not something that was thrust on us. Using win2k is more of a personal choice. We had ppl using linux as their desktops. And i can say this that linux on the desktop is still not the best option, neither is win2k. So now we have a compromise situation, we use win2k as the primary os, and run the linux desktop thu an x terminal. This is the best of both worlds we use both linux and win2k. Another reason for using win2k is that we have development tools under win2k with which most of the development team is familiar and with which we can develop our products faster. Also if u don't happen to know this, i have done projects over here using the following technologies: CGI/Perl, Php3, Java, Borland C++ Builder and Visual Basic, and this shud show that i definately don't hav any bias towards a particullar platform! We just happen to use what we feel is right for a project and then use it. If the requirement is for a client app then windows is still a good choice, for server apps i personally prefer linux! Our primary deployment platform for web/wap apps is java servlet 2.2 containers like tomcat or resin. For our own sites we use Linux, and for our clients we use any environment that they prefer, though mostly it is going to be linux or Solaris, though we hav clients deploying our apps under Tomcat and iis5/win2k too! I still can't understand from where did u get to hav an idea of the kind of work that our development team does and what kind of things are forced on us! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 02:08:35 2001 Received: from cooper.spectranet.com (unknown [203.122.63.156]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E8C54A10E for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from AMBAR ([203.122.24.162]) by cooper.spectranet.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G9UGWD00.T1W for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:29:01 -0500 Message-ID: <003301c0a6ed$2258d180$8900000a@aclindia.com> From: "Ambar Roy" To: References: Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:28:16 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Archive-Number: 200103/221 X-Sequence-Number: 2398 > I don't really know how to do this. Are you able to help me? now since we know that logrotate is not exactly a red hat thing (though the author has a redhat.com e-mail id, and all the tar.gz files seem to be from redhat), i wud suggest that u search for its tar file at google (logrotate linux tar <- try this). It is quite good, and comes with the basic scripts for all the system log files. Also i guess u will hav to add logrotate to your daily cron job! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 02:13:09 2001 Received: from mail.win.co.nz (mail.win.co.nz [210.55.230.193]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72374A210 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from net4u (adsl-121.net4u.co.nz [203.96.91.121]) by mail.win.co.nz (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA21772 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:11:57 +1300 From: "Sahil Gupta - NET4U" To: Subject: RE: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:02:43 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003301c0a6ed$2258d180$8900000a@aclindia.com> X-Archive-Number: 200103/222 X-Sequence-Number: 2399 There is either Debian or RedHat. -----Original Message----- From: linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org [mailto:linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org]On Behalf Of Ambar Roy Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 1:58 AM To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Logging Apache Monthly > I don't really know how to do this. Are you able to help me? now since we know that logrotate is not exactly a red hat thing (though the author has a redhat.com e-mail id, and all the tar.gz files seem to be from redhat), i wud suggest that u search for its tar file at google (logrotate linux tar <- try this). It is quite good, and comes with the basic scripts for all the system log files. Also i guess u will hav to add logrotate to your daily cron job! Bye, /\ |\/| |3 /\ r ------------------------------------------------ The mailing list archives are available at http://lists.linux-india.org/cgi-bin/wilma/linux-delhi From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 07:07:51 2001 Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [202.54.108.7]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B7DE4A29B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:vk@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01428 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0530 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:58:56 +0530 (IST) From: Krishnan Venkatachalam X-Sender: vk@localhost.localdomain To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Linux on an iBook- successful In-Reply-To: <20010304112040.C6058@black-satan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Archive-Number: 200103/223 X-Sequence-Number: 2400 Sure will bring the Yellodoglinux CD. ---VK From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 07:09:24 2001 Received: from nwcst317.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst317.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.62]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E40C54A1CC for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:09:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25482 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2001 15:02:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20010307150254.25481.qmail@nwcst317.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.62 by nwcst317 for [203.197.226.171] via web-mailer() on Wed Mar 7 15:02:54 GMT 2001 Date: 7 Mar 2001 08:02:54 MST From: Vivek khurana To: Linux Delhi Subject: sound recognition software required X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer () Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200103/224 X-Sequence-Number: 2401 hi everyone :-) I nedd to know whether ne sound recongnition software is available on lin= ux if yes plz tell me from where to get it (prefrably with source code) Thanks in Advance Vivek Software is like sex; its good only when it comes free ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 07:18:45 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 513654A224 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from railmale.caltiger.com (unknown [202.86.135.22]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEB34A0A9 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:45:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from neramac (dial10892.caltiger.com [203.188.19.224]) by railmale.caltiger.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f279O8H29750 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:54:09 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <000701c0a6ea$dabab0c0$e013bccb@neramac> From: "sankarbhat" To: Subject: linux o/s Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:08:52 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "sankarbhat" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/225 X-Sequence-Number: 2402 we are having a 486 system with 8 mb ram & six dumb terminals. 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Can anybody help me to put suiable linux in this and run with terminals. sankar bhat From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 07:24:47 2001 Received: from www.aunet.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34BA54A28C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:24:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from biznetindia.com (biznetindia.com [209.239.35.127]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A99C4A019 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from biznetindia.com ([61.11.24.49]) by biznetindia.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f27AGsj25805; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:16:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3AA60A8A.C696FFCC@biznetindia.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:46:43 +0530 From: Jai Bansal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "raju@linux-delhi.org" , "linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org" Subject: Required LINUX tech support personnel X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200103/226 X-Sequence-Number: 2403 Hi, I run a web hosting company, as you already must be knowing. 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Web Solutions 91-11-2208702, 2208283, 2049562, 98100-17155 D-24, Preet Vihar, Delhi-110092, India ________________________________________________________________ From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 08:46:18 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294964A16C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.204.40]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA00496 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:08:14 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 06EF4761; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:13:52 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:13:51 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Cyber law Message-ID: <20010307221351.A362@black-satan> References: <20010306102735.C581@black-satan> <028401c0a5fb$3b1cee60$4dbe9cca@fluff> <20010306180938.A412@black-satan> <3AA59C91.F050D827@eth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3AA59C91.F050D827@eth.net>; from suresh-grl@eth.net on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:27:29PM -0500 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/227 X-Sequence-Number: 2404 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:27:29PM -0500, V Suresh wrote: >MR.Pankaj, > > I would like to know how you set those mail headers that I see from >your mails, like X-Operating System -Debian black Satan, X_Crazy about - >look ma, I use mutt, and the stuff. >How do I set them? I use Netscape Messenger. I don't know shit about messenger. Only thing i know is its not as confugrable as any console based mail reader. And As my headers say "look Ma I use Mutt" Use mutt. ;) and if u use gnus u culd actully send your picture as a header with each message (talk about graphiks) >Pankaj Kaushal wrote: ---end quoted text--- -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 08:54:01 2001 Received: from nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net (nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.23.26]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D82594A119 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 2719 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2001 16:47:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20010307164733.2718.qmail@nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.23.26 by nwcst281 for [202.54.59.128] via web-mailer() on Wed Mar 7 16:47:33 GMT 2001 Date: 7 Mar 2001 09:47:33 MST From: Vivek khurana To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: [Want to know Prerequesties for Unix Internals] X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer () Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archive-Number: 200103/228 X-Sequence-Number: 2405 Hi :-) To learn linux internals u need to know good c and assembly language and also the basic concepts & fundamentals of operating system. For linux kernel one good which i also followed is LINUX KERNEL INTERNELS this book is published by addison wesley & costs about Rs400/- Although this book follows linux kernel 2.0 and some portion of source co= de are also present in this book but you will have to rely on hacking source c= ode by yourself. You can also follow any new kernel which can be downloaded from www.kernel.org Bye vivek Software is like sex; its good only when it comes free ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D1 From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 10:46:04 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B914A0FA for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.226.106]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA24887 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:08:05 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8305F761; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:16:46 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:16:46 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Message-ID: <20010307231646.B362@black-satan> References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <20010306003453.B914@black-satan> <038601c0a645$9b6a40c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <00e201c0a66d$24cdff60$dbf60b3d@rahul> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00e201c0a66d$24cdff60$dbf60b3d@rahul>; from rahulj@glide.net.in on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:07:03AM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/229 X-Sequence-Number: 2406 On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:07:03AM +0530, Rahul Jindal wrote: >hi guys, van anyone here volunteer to explain in 2-3 sentences the common >prevelant licences (GPL, BSD, Apache and others) so that junta like me cud >also make some sense of a lot of things on these walls. The GPL ------ Well the gpl is quite clear. it says, for Any s/w under the gpl everybody can copy/improve and redistribute/give orignal/modified for free /charge for it. for the improving part to be true every gpl'ed s/w should give source in a media or make it avaliable at a comfortable price or location viz ftp. The word "free" in the title of the Free Software Foundation refers to "freedom," not "zero dollars." 0. freedom to run the program 1. freedom to study how the program works and adapt it to your needs, (source code is a precondition for that) 2. freedom to redistribute copies of the program (to help your neighbour) 3. freedome to improve and release the improvements to the public. Anyone can charge any price for GPL-covered software that they want to. However, in practice, the freedom enforced by the GPL leads to low prices, because you can always get the software for less money from someone else, because everyone has the right to resell or give away GPL-covered software. BSD --- Well whats mine is yours and what yours is yours. Bsd says man We've made my thing and We are making it if you want it take it but We won't take your improvements unless and untill We feel like it and any one can take your improvements and make it close source or do what ever they like to do with it. Apache ------ 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the apache copyright notice, 2. Redistributions in binary form must also retain it you have both apache binary and source but if u do anything/changes with it you can not call it apache. Thats pretty much it. Open Source ----------- terms of open-source software must comply with the following criteria: . Free Redistribution . Source Code . Allow Derived Works . Integrity of The Author's Source Code The license may restrict source-code from being distributed in modified form only if the license allows the distribution of "patch files" . No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups . License Must Not Contaminate Other Software What sucks with opensource is that it is a broad rule it also respects sucking lisences like QT and Netscape that alow no freedom at all They say it leaves the philosophy and geek tub thumping behind and does marketing but it actully makes things more complex, putting freebies(netscape) and free s/w (emacs) under one broad term it leaves the user bowled. I think stallman is too philosophical but I also know QT and linux-2.4 are two things so calling both just "open source" is not my style. ;) hope this does the trick ---end quoted text--- PS: I MAY BE HORRIBLY WRONG. -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 10:46:15 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C514A21C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.226.106]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA24892 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:08:05 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 02663763; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:04:36 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:04:36 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant Message-ID: <20010308000436.B684@black-satan> References: <200103060933.BAA16618@cobrand.salon.com> <20010306215851.A958@bigfoot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010306215851.A958@bigfoot.com>; from sandipb@bigfoot.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:58:51PM +0530 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/230 X-Sequence-Number: 2407 On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:58:51PM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: C++ is not even good C neither it is good OOPS If i had to do oops I'll do Java . ---end quoted text--- -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 10:46:17 2001 Received: from del2.vsnl.net.in (del2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.30]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCA24A20D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (postfix@[203.197.226.106]) by del2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA24890 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:08:05 -0500 (GMT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 73346762; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:01:44 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:01:44 +0000 From: Pankaj Kaushal To: linux-delhi@lists.linux-india.org Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Message-ID: <20010308000144.A684@black-satan> References: <20010306221311.A886@black-satan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from sales@net4u.co.nz on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:16:57PM -0800 X-Operating-System: Debian 2.2 black-satan Linux 2.4.0-test9 X-IS-CRAZY-ABOUT: Look Ma, I use Mutt X-Archive-Number: 200103/231 X-Sequence-Number: 2408 On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:16:57PM -0800, Sahil Gupta - NET4U wrote: >I don't really know how to do this. Are you able to help me? Try this there is a thing called cronolog ( www.ford-mason.co.uk/resources/cronolog) this is very much like the apache rotatelogs but keeps a tree of log files like this /var/log/apache/20001/03/04/access.log /var/log/apache/20001/03/07/access.log /var/log/apache/20001/03/12/access.log type this in http.conf TransferLog "|bin/cronolog /var/log/apache/%Y/%m/%d/access.log ErrorLog "|bin/cronolog /var/log/apache/%Y/%m/%d/access.log for each virtual domain name. ---end quoted text--- -- Violence is a sword that has no handle -- you have to hold the blade. ................................ Pankaj Kaushal Proud to use GNU From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 11:13:03 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6F994A0FA for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9148 invoked by uid 417); 7 Mar 2001 19:17:35 -0000 Received: from d716.pppdel.vsnl.net.in (HELO BIG) (202.54.58.116) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 19:17:35 -0000 Message-ID: <00d501c0a5b8$4a7d1210$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <02f801c0a62b$1ac13c90$8900000a@aclindia.com> Subject: Re: Logging Apache Monthly Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:33:29 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Archive-Number: 200103/232 X-Sequence-Number: 2409 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ambar Roy To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [linux-delhi] Logging Apache Monthly > Hi, > > I currently have my Web-Server logging all logs to access_log files, I > have > > one file per VHost. What I want is somehow to make it so that each month > > has a new access_log file. It is possible I've seen it elsewhere, anyone > > know how? > Use logrotate. It comes standard with red hat linux (i don't know abt the > other distros) Its rotatelog btw ! ;o) in red hat at /usr/sbin/rotatelog In httpd.conf add the following line : TransferLog "|roratelog /home/apache/logs 2592000 please remember to create the above dir. Your logs will be rotated every 2592000 seconds...or 30 days. From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 12:11:49 2001 Received: from delhi1.mtnl.net.in (delhi1.mtnl.net.in [203.94.243.51]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DB44A34D for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:11:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sandip by delhi1.mtnl.net.in (8.9.1/1.1.20.3/07Jul00-0916AM) id BAA0000023120; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:31:06 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <001201c0a742$6b182b00$5bf95ecb@sandip> From: "Sandip Bhattacharya" To: References: <005601c0a330$8a97b650$dac3c5cb@ndindia> <20010303125825.A1667@black-satan> <000001c0a533$ab0d61f0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <20010306003453.B914@black-satan> <038601c0a645$9b6a40c0$8900000a@aclindia.com> <00e201c0a66d$24cdff60$dbf60b3d@rahul> <20010307231646.B362@black-satan> Subject: Re: Which Linux to use? Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:38:41 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Archive-Number: 200103/233 X-Sequence-Number: 2410 For once , that's a very balanced view, Pankaj! ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pankaj Kaushal" > > The GPL > ------ > BSD > --- > Apache > ------ > Open Source > ----------- > > > ;) > hope this does the trick > ---end quoted text--- From linux-delhi-owner@lists.linux-india.org Wed Mar 7 17:06:30 2001 Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3763E4A261 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19196 invoked by uid 417); 8 Mar 2001 01:10:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BIG) (202.54.109.139) by smtpb.softhome.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 01:10:55 -0000 Message-ID: <002001c0a5e9$a7d68230$010811ac@BIG> From: "Amit Soni" To: References: <01bc01c0a486$00128300$010811ac@BIG> <006a01c0a498$5ff65fa0$010811ac@BIG> Subject: Re: Tracking user session Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:52:24 +0530 MIME-V