From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 1 01:37:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655B84A00B for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 01:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19737; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:48:46 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:48:16 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA19720 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:48:04 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.180.161]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29698 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:39:14 +0500 Message-ID: <39AF67A6.F35EA9A0@chennailug.org> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 13:54:06 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: COMMERCIAL: Wanted Oracle+Solaris Rel. Engineers Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Wanted Oracle+Solaris Release Engineers with 2+ years Version Control experience willing to relocate to Ireland in 15 days. Contact: Narasimhan, 241 9483 --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 1 01:46:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91804A02E for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 01:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19797; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:05:49 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 01 Sep 2000 14:05:18 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19789 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:05:14 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.180.161]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29904 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:57:45 +0500 Message-ID: <39AF6BF7.42DCFD2F@chennailug.org> Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 14:12:31 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Downloads from chennailug.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear Luggies, Chennailug.org gets a new section, the "Downloads" section. If you have anything useful to be contributed, pls mail me the link. If you think this is not going to be useful (wasting useful Internet Bandwidth 9-:) tell that too! May I request Mr.MKS to send me, if interested, the tamil-console-stuff? Thanks all, -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 1 02:19:27 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653AC4A032 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 02:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19949; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:38:05 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 01 Sep 2000 14:37:34 (IST) Received: from kaveri.ee.iitm.ernet.in (IDENT:root@[144.16.251.96]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19943 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:37:32 +0530 Received: from lotus.ee.iitm.ernet.in (lotus.ee.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.244.125]) by kaveri.ee.iitm.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27083 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:40:57 +0530 Received: from localhost (ee99331@localhost) by lotus.ee.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03172 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:43:18 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: lotus.ee.iitm.ernet.in: ee99331 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:43:18 +0530 (IST) From: Shishir Birmiwal X-Sender: ee99331@lotus.ee.iitm.ernet.in To: linux user group chennai Subject: debian 2.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: shishirb2@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi there, has somebody downloaded the debian 2.2 cd set. i'd love to get my hands on a set. i have access to a CD writer, so i can duplicate/make a few sets too. urgently desparate for deb shishir -- There's nothing to writing. All you do is sit at a typewriter and open a vein. -- Red Smith x------------------------- shishir birmiwal------x gotta go : __o | #152,godavari,iitm,chennai-600036. 044-4459075 | .. bye _(\<._ x-----shishirb@yahoo.com ------------------------x . . . . . (_)/ (_) --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 1 12:33:25 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32224A1F4 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21646; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:51:07 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 02 Sep 2000 00:50:36 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA21640 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:50:32 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03006 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:56:13 +0530 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:56:13 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: how to change passwd in POP3 account Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi all, i have an email id viz. mksarav@au-kbc.org which is a POP3 account. But I dont have any provision to change the password. I did telnet to port 110 and tried various POP3 commands. But i don't find any POP3 commands to change the password. can anybody help me in this issue. ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 1 16:41:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0054A026 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA22029; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 05:01:40 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 02 Sep 2000 05:01:09 (IST) Received: from chn3.vsnl.net.in (chn3.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.58]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20407 for ; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:52:05 +0530 From: ragu@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in X-approved-by: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Received: (from nobody@localhost) by chn3.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23465; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:47:42 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:47:42 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <200009011117.QAA23465@chn3.vsnl.net.in> X-Authentication-Warning: chn3.vsnl.net.in: nobody set sender to ragu@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in using -f Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.102 (Entity 4.114) To: shishirb2@yahoo.com Subject: re: debian 2.2 X-Mailer: VSNL, Web based email X-Sender-Ip: 61.1.242.180 Cc: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ragu@giasmd01.vsnl.net.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc >>has somebody downloaded the debian 2.2 cd set. >> Yup, I have got the 8 CD set of Debian GNU/Linux, 2.2 aka 'Potato'. 4 CDs of binaries and 4 CDs of source from Geenbush Tech, ME. These CDs are from the 16th August 2000 images. Hope I can be of help to U at Chennai. -- ragOO, VU2RGU. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 2 00:47:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB894A0D7 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 00:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23043; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:58:55 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 02 Sep 2000 12:58:25 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23037 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:58:20 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.180.172]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12935 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 12:50:22 +0500 Message-ID: <39B0AD7D.2689E848@chennailug.org> Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 13:04:21 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: debian 2.2 References: <200009011117.QAA23465@chn3.vsnl.net.in> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi (-: > Yup, I have got the 8 CD set of Debian GNU/Linux, > 2.2 aka 'Potato'. 4 CDs of binaries and 4 CDs of > source from Geenbush Tech, ME. > Great Ragu! I need the Binaries CD at the earliest. I want to write the CDs for myself. When, Where can I get the CDs? Thanks in advance, -Suraj --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 2 01:52:54 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD25049F60 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 01:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23361; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:03:48 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:03:17 (IST) Received: from giasmd01.vsnl.net.in (giasmd01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.1]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23355 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:03:13 +0530 Received: from debianut ([61.1.238.65]) by giasmd01.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05367 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:10:48 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=debianut) by debianut with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13V8jd-0000Am-00; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:03:09 +0530 Received: from ragu by debianut with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13V8jb-0000Ak-00 for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:03:07 +0530 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:03:07 +0530 From: Raghavendra Bhat To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: debian 2.2 Message-ID: <20000902140307.A634@debianut.ekmnet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: The GNU (http://www.gnu.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ragu@vsnl.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Suraj.co.in posts: > I need the Binaries CD at the earliest. I want to write the > CDs for myself. When, Where can I get the CDs? > I am from Cochin and I can mail the binary CDs, four in no: to either Prabhu/you. I have Prabhu's address. What should I do now ? The Potatoes are baked and burnt, ready for onward despatch. -- ragOO, VU2RGU Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.....Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 2 02:07:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C31A4A060 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23517; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:22:36 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:22:05 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23500 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:22:02 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 544 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:16:23 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13V93K-0000M5-00 for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:23:30 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:23:30 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: debian 2.2 In-Reply-To: <20000902140307.A634@debianut.ekmnet.in> References: <20000902140307.A634@debianut.ekmnet.in> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14768.48946.499302.475933@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "Raghavendra" == Raghavendra Bhat writes: Raghavendra> I am from Cochin and I can mail the binary CDs, four Raghavendra> in no: to either Prabhu/you. I have Prabhu's Raghavendra> address. What should I do now ? The Potatoes are Raghavendra> baked and burnt, ready for onward despatch. I am a bit unreliable to mail the CD's to these days because there are several times when no one is around at home. So, maybe someone else could be mailed the CD's. Suraj? If you have no such problems can Raghavendra mail them to you?? Please co-ordinate with him. Thanks Ragoo. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 2 02:23:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E004A03E for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 02:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23641; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:40:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:40:03 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23632 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:39:59 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 395 for ; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:34:19 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13V9Ki-0000NL-00 for ; Sat, 02 Sep 2000 14:41:28 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 14:41:28 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: how to change passwd in POP3 account In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14768.50126.666983.42291@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "MKS" == M K Saravanan writes: MKS> hi all, i have an email id viz. mksarav@au-kbc.org which is MKS> a POP3 account. But I dont have any provision to change the MKS> password. I did telnet to port 110 and tried various POP3 MKS> commands. But i don't find any POP3 commands to change the MKS> password. can anybody help me in this issue. I dont think there is a way out. You'd have to have telnet access? It is a SunOS 5.7 box. try telnet au-kbc.org and log in, then change password there. HTH, prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sun Sep 3 05:52:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3EA94A00A for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 05:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02722; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:05:01 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sun, 03 Sep 2000 18:04:30 (IST) Received: from donald.bk ([202.54.64.170]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02716 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 18:04:27 +0530 Received: from Larry.bk (root@larry.bk [200.2.1.10]) by donald.bk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19698 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:34:32 +0530 Received: from localhost (guru@localhost) by Larry.bk (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04957 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:26:00 +0530 Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 17:26:00 +0530 (IST) From: Guru Prasad To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux In-Reply-To: <00a201c00f4c$28218370$481f10ac@vsnl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: pnguruji@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hey, Just download this document from http://jordan.fortwayne.com/oracle/. Step-by-Step instructions given on how to install oracle on Redhat 6.1 On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, RamKumar wrote: > hi, > has anybody tried oracle on linux? > i use a redhat 6.1. i would like to know what precautions i need to take for the same.. > the documentation on technet.oracle is vast. any input on this will be of great help. > > Thanks > Ram > > --- --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sun Sep 3 20:43:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C4E4A098 for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2000 20:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03900; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:58:25 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 04 Sep 2000 08:57:55 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03885 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:57:43 +0530 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id IAA05923 for ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:50:19 +0500 Received: from dellbian2k (Free [192.168.1.101]) by alpha.focusite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02768 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:58:06 +0530 Message-ID: <007c01c01620$860bf8f0$6501a8c0@chennai.cibsnet.net> From: "Pichai Asokan" To: References: <20000902140307.A634@debianut.ekmnet.in> <14768.48946.499302.475933@monster.linux.in> Subject: Re: debian 2.2 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 09:00:50 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: pasokan@os4.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc I am getting one set of CDs. Tonight; my friend is arriving from US. Will post details of exactly what asp. Of course, any one is welcome to come over with blank CDs and pick up copies. P Asokan --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 5 23:14:18 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC424A0E7 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10761; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:25:43 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:25:13 (IST) Received: from tower.ti.com (tower.ti.com [192.94.94.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10754 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:25:05 +0530 Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com ([157.170.188.9]) by tower.ti.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e865rvL06884 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:53:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20607 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:53:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dbde01.itg.ti.com ([157.87.102.21]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20594 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 00:53:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ti.com (dhcp214.india.ti.com [157.87.103.144]) by dbde01.itg.ti.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id SJN34NBZ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:23:52 +0530 Message-ID: <39B5DCB0.AB8CE538@ti.com> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 11:27:04 +0530 From: Ramakrishnan M Organization: Texas Instruments R&D Center, Bangalore, India X-Sender: "Ramakrishnan M" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD TexasInstruments (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilug chennai Subject: GNU/Hurd CDs Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: rkrishnan@ti.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello for those who want to try Debian GNU/Hurd. Philip Charles of copyleft.co.nz has made an installation CD and had recently posted theis URL in the debian-hurd mailing list. http://www.copyleft.co.nz/hurd.html I had earlier tried installing Debian GNU/Hurd from the deb files but failed. I am planning to buy the above CD(looks like the shipment is free!) and try it out. If anyone has succeeded in getting GNU/Hurd working, please mail me. -- Ramakrishnan.M --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 6 04:07:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A424A25E for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 04:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12265; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:15:04 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:14:34 (IST) Received: from tower.ti.com (tower.ti.com [192.94.94.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12257 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:14:23 +0530 Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com ([157.170.188.9]) by tower.ti.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e86AhlL11175; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:43:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21462; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:43:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dbde01.itg.ti.com ([157.87.102.21]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21454; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:43:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ti.com (dhcp214.india.ti.com [157.87.103.144]) by dbde01.itg.ti.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id SJN34N0H; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:13:40 +0530 Message-ID: <39B6209B.CCA034B1@ti.com> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 16:16:51 +0530 From: Ramakrishnan M Organization: Texas Instruments R&D Center, Bangalore, India X-Sender: "Ramakrishnan M" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD TexasInstruments (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilug chennai Cc: Ramachandran Prakash Subject: Yet another Mozilla based browser Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: rkrishnan@ti.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc http://www.muhri.net/skipstone/ Nice thing about Skipstone is that Debian packages are available. -- Ramakrishnan.M --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 6 07:53:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B2034A1C7 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13330; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:05:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:04:45 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13322 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:04:40 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.147.131]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18303 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:57:10 +0500 Message-ID: <39B655CF.A26030CD@chennailug.org> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 20:03:51 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: debian 2.2 References: <20000902140307.A634@debianut.ekmnet.in> <14768.48946.499302.475933@monster.linux.in> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi > I am a bit unreliable to mail the CD's to these days because > there are several times when no one is around at home. So, maybe > someone else could be mailed the CD's. Suraj? If you have no such > problems can Raghavendra mail them to you?? Please co-ordinate with > him. > Of course: Me is getting free after the 16th of this month and most prolly will be sleeping @home (study hols!!) You CAN mail me the CDs: My address is: N.Suraj Kumar 16B, NSR Road Nehru Nagar Chromepet Chennai - 600 044 Tamil Nadu > Thanks Ragoo. > Thanks Ragoo! Thanks Prabhu! -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 7 02:19:54 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128474A3BF for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16822; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:17:22 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 07 Sep 2000 14:16:51 (IST) Received: from cc.imagine.co.in ([206.103.12.210]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16816 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:16:49 +0530 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.imagine.co.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id OAA18218 for ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:14:17 +0530 Received: from localhost (sambaiah@localhost) by imagine.imagine.co.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08888 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:06:47 +0530 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:06:44 +0530 (IST) From: K Sambaiah To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Ritche on Linux and system software In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: sambaiah@imagine.co.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, Ritche speaks out that systems software is dead. Linux is not so novell. The url is http://linux.usc.edu/~ehovland/utah2000.pdf regards, Sambaiah Kilaru. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 7 02:55:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB3B4A2EE for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 02:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17125; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:02:15 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:01:45 (IST) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17110 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:01:38 +0530 Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com ([157.170.188.9]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e879Ux122859 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:30:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02576 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:30:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dbde01.itg.ti.com ([157.87.102.21]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02563 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 04:30:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ti.com (dhcp214.india.ti.com [157.87.103.144]) by dbde01.itg.ti.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id SJN34RVG; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:00:54 +0530 Message-ID: <39B7610B.12A2C44@ti.com> Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 15:04:03 +0530 From: Ramakrishnan M Organization: Texas Instruments R&D Center, Bangalore, India X-Sender: "Ramakrishnan M" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD TexasInstruments (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Ritche on Linux and system software References: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: rkrishnan@ti.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc K Sambaiah wrote: > > Ritche speaks out that systems software is dead. Linux is not > so novell. The url is s/Ritche/Pike -- Ramakrishnan.M --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 7 07:06:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C894A060 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18619; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:15:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 07 Sep 2000 19:14:45 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA18611 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:14:41 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15326 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:19:48 +0530 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 19:19:48 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Should ARP modify the cache...? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Should ARP (Addr. Resolution Protocol) Modify the cache even when it receives (ARP request for some other machine) informtion without specifically requesting it? ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 7 23:48:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB1064A019 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 23:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21725; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:58:31 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 08 Sep 2000 11:58:00 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21714 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:57:55 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19103 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:55:42 +0530 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:55:42 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Re: Should ARP modify the cache...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, M K Saravanan wrote: > > Should ARP (Addr. Resolution Protocol) Modify the cache even when it > receives (ARP request for some other machine) informtion without > specifically requesting it? > > ** mks ** > There are 2 cases 1. A machine say A gets an ARP request for its IP address (see Note 1), then it adds the hardware/IP address of the sender to its ARP cache. Logic is somebody is going to send me packet and I will be replying to it. So it avoids an extra ARP (later when the application will reply to the request -- ARP is not required for unicast ARP reply, as I have the hardware address in the request, the question is whether or not to cache it) 2. a. A machine receives an ARP request for some other IP address and it has an entry in the ARP cache for the sender (the person who sends the request) IP address. Then the ARP cache is updated. b. A machine receives an ARP request for some other IP address and it does not have an entry in ARP cache. In that case a new ARP CACHE entry is not added.(Logic is you may not be receiving any request from that machine, why waste ARP cache entry) Note 1: ARP request is a broadcast at the ethernet level (ethernet address is set to ff.ff.ff.ff.ff.ff Note 2: ARP reply is unicast. Note 3: A complete ARP cache entry is valid for only 20 seconds.(unless you enter the entry manually and make it permanent) and after that it is deleted. Incomplete ARP cache entry remains in cache for only 3 minutes. George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 8 05:34:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEC34A230 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 05:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23406; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:37:57 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 08 Sep 2000 17:37:26 (IST) Received: from linux1 (dedicated-157.chn.vsnl.net.in [202.54.69.157] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA23400 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:37:22 +0530 Received: from backup (serv128 [192.9.200.28]) by linux1 (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12403 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:39:37 +0530 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:36:04 +0530 (IST) From: V Vasanth X-Sender: vasanth@serv128 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Ritche on Linux and system software In-Reply-To: <39B7610B.12A2C44@ti.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: vasanth@sankhya.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, Could anyone tell whats the correct site?? Vasanth On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Ramakrishnan M wrote: > K Sambaiah wrote: > > > > Ritche speaks out that systems software is dead. Linux is not > > so novell. The url is > > s/Ritche/Pike > > -- > Ramakrishnan.M > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 8 06:17:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97DC4A233 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 06:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23581; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:22:02 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 08 Sep 2000 18:21:32 (IST) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23575 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:21:27 +0530 Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com ([157.170.188.9]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e88Con118276 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dlep6.itg.ti.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22207 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dbde01.itg.ti.com ([157.87.102.21]) by dlep6.itg.ti.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22155 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ti.com (dhcp214.india.ti.com [157.87.103.144]) by dbde01.itg.ti.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id SJN34WH9; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 18:20:44 +0530 Message-ID: <39B8E15D.F1D87D@ti.com> Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 18:23:49 +0530 From: Ramakrishnan M Organization: Texas Instruments R&D Center, Bangalore, India X-Sender: "Ramakrishnan M" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD TexasInstruments (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Ritche on Linux and system software References: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: rkrishnan@ti.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc V Vasanth wrote: > > Could anyone tell whats the correct site?? same as the one in the original post i.e http://linux.usc.edu/~ehovland/utah2000.pdf -- Ramakrishnan.M --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 8 11:43:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91964A1A1 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 11:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24704; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 23:49:06 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 08 Sep 2000 23:48:36 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24698 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 23:48:32 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 224 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 23:42:01 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13XSjy-0000Vh-00 for ; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 23:49:06 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 23:49:05 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: LI registration - some news. X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14777.11085.465204.416959@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, As you are aware a group of representatives from the various LUG's all over India are getting together to make Linux India a formal legal organisation. This will help us all with respect to donations and other monetary affairs apart from other things. I am representing ILUGC, by popular? choice. Here is some information that I am supposed to share with you. During the initial discussions we encountered one particular problem. IT.com is going to be held this year sometime in November. We cannot obtain proper (and big time) funding for a Linux-India stall without a formal organisation. As of now I dont think that any of the representatives feel that the formalization will finish in time before IT.com. Int he above context, please read the following mail that has been sent to our potential sponsor (PCQ). prabhu --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear KK, It has been brought to our attention that IT.COM is an important event and it would be a shame to lose this opportunity to highlight Linux in such a high profile trade show. We are currently in the second week of a four week schedule to figure out the charter and the administrative details of Linux India on our mailing list. However, we do appreciate the urgency of the matter. We also understand the difficulties you have in justifying the expenses incurred on a local LUG. Therefore, we propose that you (PCQ) consider ILUG Bangalore as the authorised organisation to handle all matters relating to IT.com on behalf of Linux India for this year. We hope that Linux-India will have much to contribute to the Linux presence at IT.com from 2001 onwards. This was passed by an overwhelming majority on the Linux India registration mailing list. Signed by: Arun Sharma Sudhakar "Thaths" Chandrasekharan K. Dakshinamurthy G. Sagar - ILUG Bombay Vaibhav Sharma - ILUG Indore Gurunandan Bhat - ILUG Goa Girish Kamath - ILUG Mangalore Biju Chako - ILUG Bangalore Prabhu Ramachandran - ILUG Chennai Naheed Vora - ILUG Ahmedabad Nikhil - ILUG Hyderabad Indranil Das Gupta - ILUG Calcutta Raju Mathur - ILUG Delhi ------------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 8 13:58:11 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146F94A046 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA25072; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:47:38 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 09 Sep 2000 01:47:07 (IST) Received: from phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA25066 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 01:47:01 +0530 Received: (qmail 89250 invoked by alias); 8 Sep 2000 20:16:32 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 88349 invoked by uid 0); 8 Sep 2000 20:16:15 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 Sep 2000 20:16:15 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c019d1$8a471f30$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: <14777.11085.465204.416959@monster.linux.in> Subject: Re: LI registration - some news. Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 13:15:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Anyway, how much doe it cost ? In US$ preferably . Cheers, Keky Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: Prabhu Ramachandran To: Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:19 AM Subject: LI registration - some news. > hi, > > As you are aware a group of representatives from the various > LUG's all over India are getting together to make Linux India a formal > legal organisation. This will help us all with respect to donations > and other monetary affairs apart from other things. I am representing > ILUGC, by popular? choice. Here is some information that I am > supposed to share with you. > > During the initial discussions we encountered one particular > problem. IT.com is going to be held this year sometime in November. > We cannot obtain proper (and big time) funding for a Linux-India stall > without a formal organisation. As of now I dont think that any of the > representatives feel that the formalization will finish in time before > IT.com. > > Int he above context, please read the following mail that has > been sent to our potential sponsor (PCQ). > > prabhu > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dear KK, > > It has been brought to our attention that IT.COM is an important event > and it would be a shame to lose this opportunity to highlight Linux in > such a high profile trade show. > > We are currently in the second week of a four week schedule to figure > out the charter and the administrative details of Linux India on our > mailing list. However, we do appreciate the urgency of the matter. We > also understand the difficulties you have in justifying the expenses > incurred on a local LUG. > > Therefore, we propose that you (PCQ) consider ILUG Bangalore as the > authorised organisation to handle all matters relating to IT.com on > behalf of Linux India for this year. We hope that Linux-India will > have much to contribute to the Linux presence at IT.com from 2001 > onwards. > > This was passed by an overwhelming majority on the Linux India > registration mailing list. > > Signed by: > > Arun Sharma > Sudhakar "Thaths" Chandrasekharan > K. Dakshinamurthy > G. Sagar - ILUG Bombay > Vaibhav Sharma - ILUG Indore > Gurunandan Bhat - ILUG Goa > Girish Kamath - ILUG Mangalore > Biju Chako - ILUG Bangalore > Prabhu Ramachandran - ILUG Chennai > Naheed Vora - ILUG Ahmedabad > Nikhil - ILUG Hyderabad > Indranil Das Gupta - ILUG Calcutta > Raju Mathur - ILUG Delhi > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 9 04:28:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DDE4A197 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 04:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26781; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:41:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:40:45 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26774 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:40:45 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 583 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:35:04 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13XhcJ-00008j-00 for ; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 15:42:11 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 15:42:10 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: LI registration - some news. In-Reply-To: <001201c019d1$8a471f30$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> References: <14777.11085.465204.416959@monster.linux.in> <001201c019d1$8a471f30$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14778.2382.167125.92287@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "keky" == keky uswest net writes: keky> Anyway, how much doe it cost ? In US$ preferably . Cheers, keky> Keky Robertson What cost do you mean? if cost == registration_cost: I dont know. elif cost == cost_of_participating_in_IT.com: I dont know. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 9 09:49:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6105F4A056 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27622; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:57:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 09 Sep 2000 21:56:39 (IST) Received: from symonds.net (mail@adsl-63-194-20-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.20.32]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27616 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:56:35 +0530 Received: from ravi by symonds.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13XnSQ-0000sg-00; Sat, 09 Sep 2000 09:26:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 09:26:22 -0700 From: "Ravikant K. Rao" To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: LI registration - some news. Message-ID: <20000909092622.A3367@symonds.net> References: <14777.11085.465204.416959@monster.linux.in> <001201c019d1$8a471f30$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> <14778.2382.167125.92287@monster.linux.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14778.2382.167125.92287@monster.linux.in>; from prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in on Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 03:42:10PM +0530 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hullo: On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 03:42:10PM +0530, Prabhu Ramachandran wrote: > if cost == registration_cost: > I dont know. > > elif cost == cost_of_participating_in_IT.com: > I dont know. haha ;) Well for a) I don't know, too for b) http://www.bangaloreit.com/ has the answers -ravi --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 9 21:11:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361354A027 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA28876; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:26:57 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:26:26 (IST) Received: from phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.2]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28870 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2000 09:26:21 +0530 Received: (qmail 4790 invoked by alias); 10 Sep 2000 03:55:35 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 4761 invoked by uid 0); 10 Sep 2000 03:55:33 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 10 Sep 2000 03:55:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c01ada$de4e73d0$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: <14777.11085.465204.416959@monster.linux.in> <001201c019d1$8a471f30$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> <14778.2382.167125.92287@monster.linux.in> <20000909092622.A3367@symonds.net> Subject: Re: LI registration - some news. Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:54:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc OK, its only $180 per 9m (damn metric system). The questions is how many Madras Penguins can fit in that square. Assuming I donate the cost what will they do ?? Cheers, Keky Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: Ravikant K. Rao To: Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 9:26 AM Subject: Re: LI registration - some news. > Hullo: > > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 03:42:10PM +0530, Prabhu Ramachandran wrote: > > > if cost == registration_cost: > > I dont know. > > > > elif cost == cost_of_participating_in_IT.com: > > I dont know. > > > haha ;) > > Well for a) I don't know, too > for b) http://www.bangaloreit.com/ has the answers > > -ravi > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mon Sep 11 11:07:54 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D5F4A02D for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02394; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:24:08 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:23:37 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02378 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:23:35 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 786 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:17:47 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13YXR3-0000Ma-00 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:02:01 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:02:01 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Info on IT.com etc. X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14781.5607.751794.183601@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, This was a message sent to us at the linux registration mailing list. I am forwarding it here. Those of you who are interested please do the needful. prabhu ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dear LUG Coordinator, Greetings from the Bangalore LUG! As you are probably aware of by now, India's premier IT event - Bangalore IT.COM 2000, will again have a big Linux Community presence, just as it did last year. Because of the logistics involved, the Bangalore LUG has been requested by the Linux community (the LUGs of India) to represent them at this event. This is a Linux community participation (the BLUG is only a facilitator and executor, just as we were last year). We would like to solicit your LUG's involvement in this event. We have started a separate mailing list for discussing details about IT.COM, for two reasons: - to avoid cluttering up this list or the LIH/LIG lists - to allow other LUGs to participate in the discussions without having to subscribe to the Bangalore list or LIH/LIG. This list is linux-at-itcom@egroups.com and details are at http://www.egroups.com/group/linux-at-itcom Anyone who is interested in being involved in these discussions, please subscribe ASAP. We expect discussions to start sometime tomorrow (Tuesday). The list is public in nature, so everyone can watch the discussions via the web (http://www.egroups.com/messages/linux-at-itcom), but to post, you need to subscribe to it. To keep track of various things (status, proposals, features, accounts, etc.) as well as for providing a place to put digital photos, descriptions, reports, etc., we have started a website http://itcom.linux-india.org There is nothing there yet, but there will be, soon. Suggestions are welcome. We would *really* appreciate it if the members of your LUG would participate both in the discussions as well as (if possible) at the event itself. You advice and suggestions will be what will help us build the Linux Community presence at this event. Please circulate this note on your mailing list so that we can have the involvement of as many people as possible from your LUG. Thanks in advance, and see you in the mailing list and (hopefully) at IT.COM! Regards, Atul -- -------------------------------------------------------- Atul Chitnis | achitnis@exocore.com (PGP:6011BCB8) Exocore Consulting | http://www.exocore.com Bangalore, India | +91(80)3440397 Fax +91(80)3341137 -------------------------------------------------------- --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mon Sep 11 11:08:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A094A02D for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02393; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:24:07 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:23:36 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02375 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:23:34 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 786 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 23:17:52 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13YXKk-0000MX-00 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:55:30 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:55:30 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: LI registration - some news. In-Reply-To: <000601c01ada$de4e73d0$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> References: <14777.11085.465204.416959@monster.linux.in> <001201c019d1$8a471f30$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> <14778.2382.167125.92287@monster.linux.in> <20000909092622.A3367@symonds.net> <000601c01ada$de4e73d0$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14781.4748.26452.883489@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "keky" == keky uswest net writes: keky> OK, its only $180 per 9m (damn metric system). The keky> questions is how many Madras Penguins can fit in that keky> square. Assuming I donate the cost what will they do ?? I guess you mean 9 metres square? 9sq meters = 3x3 meters. 3 meters is approximately 10 feet. So if it is 9 sq meters we are talking of an area of 100 square feet. This should fit about 20-30 people?? In any case the folks from ILUGB will be representing Linux India there. I have no idea what they plan to do but there is an email from Atul that I will forward to the list in a while that will give you details on what is going on. Thanks for the offer to fund us folks. :) prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 12 23:58:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824644A2A7 for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00277; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:05:42 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:05:12 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00270 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:05:08 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.147.253]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01303 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:57:28 +0500 Message-ID: <39BF1FE9.FD01EB8E@chennailug.org> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:04:17 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in" Subject: Next m e e t ... please...? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi all, I have my practical exams on the 16th. I would be very much pleased if the next meet is postponed to the 23rd. Waiting for your reply, -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 12 23:58:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EE04A2BC for ; Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00271; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:05:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:04:39 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00253 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:04:31 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.147.253]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01291 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:56:50 +0500 Message-ID: <39BF1FB8.F78F358B@chennailug.org> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:03:28 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: I_Luv_ILUGC Subject: Yamaha OPL3-SAx sound chipset config. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 13 00:07:09 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6163E4A247 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00391; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:37 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:07 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00381 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:25:06 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 292 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:19:19 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13Z6RY-0004yX-00 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:24:52 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:24:52 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Next m e e t ... please...? In-Reply-To: <39BF1FE9.FD01EB8E@chennailug.org> References: <39BF1FE9.FD01EB8E@chennailug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14783.9277.851732.580023@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, Just wanted to post on this. We can have the meeting either on the 16th or on the 23rd. Both are fine with Prof. Sriram. Mr. Gopinath will talk on SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) this time. Please let me know if 23rd is all right with the rest of you folks. If I dont get any response in the next couple of days I will assume that 23rd is ok. thanks, prabhu p.s. Sorry for the delayed announce. >>>>> "Suraj" == Suraj co in writes: Suraj> hi all, Suraj> I have my practical exams on the 16th. I would be very much Suraj> pleased if the next meet is postponed to the 23rd. Suraj> Waiting for your reply, k --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 13 00:20:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9423A49F45 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00437; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:59 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:29 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00419 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:28 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 493 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:21:39 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13Z6Tf-0004yd-00 for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:03 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:27:03 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Yamaha OPL3-SAx sound chipset config. In-Reply-To: <39BF1FB8.F78F358B@chennailug.org> References: <39BF1FB8.F78F358B@chennailug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14783.9436.843257.141517@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, Please read the file /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/OPL3-SA2 in your kernel sources (here I have assumed /usr/src/linux is the root of your kernel source tree). This has docs on how to setup the card. In case you have specific problems mail the list. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 13 21:30:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87B094A23F for ; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04784; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:42:59 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:42:28 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04778 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:42:23 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.180.72]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19084 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:34:00 +0500 Message-ID: <39C04FD9.497485F1@chennailug.org> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:41:05 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: I_Luv_ILUGC Subject: Yamaha OPL3-SAx Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi Sorry for the last post. I prolly forgot to paste the msg. (-; I recently bought a Yamaha OPL3-SAx snd chipset PCI card. I compiled my kernel for modular snd support so that sndconfig can be used for configging. Even After having followed everything specified in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/OPL3* I'm unable to configure my snd card. This is what /proc/pci has to say: -- Bus 0, device 14, function 0: Multimedia audio controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 16). Vendor id=13f6. Device id=111. Medium devsel. IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=66. Min Gnt=2.Max Lat=24. -- I run debian and recently downloaded sndconfig from debian. sndconfig in probed mode wasn't any fruits. So I did a sndconfig --noprobe. produces some errors saying -- sound-slot-0: insmod failed Device or Resource Busy -- I wasn't trying to run anything (like esd, etc.,) that could occupy the snd card. I also tried: -- [root][~]# cat hello.au > /dev/audio insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/opl3sa2.o: init_module: Device or resource busyinsmod: Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/opl3sa2.o: insmod sound-slot-0 failed modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module sound-service-0-3 bash: /dev/audio: No such device -- Then I recompiled the all snd drivers (except beach turtle, M$ snd system) into the kernel. Now when my system boots I can see the following: -- Found OPL3-SAx (YMF719) at 0x330 irq 9 dma 0 -- I did a cat /proc/ioports and it produced: -- 0330-0331 : mpu401 0370-0371 : OPL3-SAx -- ...and cat /proc/devices has -- 14 sound -- when I do a cat /dev/sndstat: Load type: Driver compiled into kernel Kernel: Linux linuxtopia 2.2.15 #8 Tue Sep 12 19:04:30 IST 2000 i586 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 19: MAD16/Mozart (MSS) Type 20: MAD16/Mozart (MPU) Type 21: CS4232 Card config: (MediaTrix AudioTrix Pro at 0x530 irq 11 drq 0,3) (AudioTrix (SB mode) at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1) (AudioTrix MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0) (Yamaha OPL3-SA at 0x530 irq 11 drq 0,3) (OPL3-SA MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0) SoftOSS Virtual Wave Table (Ensoniq SoundScape at 0x330 irq 9 drq 3) (MS Sound System (SoundScape) at 0x534 irq 11 drq 3) (MAD16/Mozart (MSS) at 0x530 irq 11 drq 3,0) (MAD16/Mozart (MPU) at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0) CS4232 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0 (CS4232 at 0x530 irq 11 drq 0,3) OPL3SA2 at 0x370 irq 9 drq 0,1 (OPL3SA2 MSS at 0x530 irq 9 drq 0,1) OPL3SA2 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0 (OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 drq 0) Loopback MIDI Device drq 0 Audio devices: Synth devices: 0: SoftOSS But I read in the kernel docs that when a snd card in detected all the respective services such as MIDI, ESD, AUDIO etc., are initialised. Why isn't this happenning? Am I supposed to change the major, minors of /dev/audio, etc.,? I found a few solutions at the LI archives and ILUGC archives for Yamaha PnP cards. So I copied them into my isapnp.conf. This too didn't work. The documentation that came with my card doesn't mention anything about PnP. pnpdump produces the following: # Trying port address 0273 # Trying port address 027b # Trying port address 0283 # Trying port address 028b . . . # Trying port address 03e3 # Trying port address 03eb # Trying port address 03f3 # No boards found Does this mean my YMF719 isn't a PnP based card? How do I get my card working? -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 14 00:43:28 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E21B4A0A2 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05847; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:58:40 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:58:10 (IST) Received: from tn.nic.in (tn.nic.in [164.100.167.2]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA05841 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:58:09 +0530 Received: from alpha (alpha [164.100.167.49]) by tn.nic.in (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA20539 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:51:30 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <007301c01e1c$b9df4a70$31a764a4@tn.nic.in> From: "S.Gopinath" To: References: <20000713221937.8142.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> <006f01bfeda6$6caa08e0$1f32a8c0@eth.net> Subject: Re: Comments please Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:53:47 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: sxg@tn.nic.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear Friends, I said that I can talk about SNMP on October session not this month. Thanks, S.Gopinath --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 14 01:47:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B044A047 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 01:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06138; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:58:08 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:57:38 (IST) Received: from blr1.mantraonline.com (bbilblr1.mantraonline.com [202.56.250.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06061 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:44:41 +0530 Received: from infini.org.in ([202.56.193.54]) by blr1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id G0VABS02.CDB for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 03:02:16 -0500 Message-ID: <39C08D2A.815B6E6E@infini.org.in> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:02:42 +0530 From: Maneesh Bomb X-approved-by: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Meeting References: <39C04FD9.497485F1@chennailug.org> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: bomb@infini.org.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hey guys, Lets not post-pone the meeting I delayed my trip to Delhi so I could be here for the meet. If it going to be held on 23rd I wouldn't be here. My vote for 16th Sept. - Maneesh Bomb --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 14 01:51:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2079F4A022 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 01:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06162; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:00:18 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:59:48 (IST) Received: from blr1.mantraonline.com (bbilblr1.mantraonline.com [202.56.250.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06087 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:49:03 +0530 Received: from infini.org.in ([202.56.193.54]) by blr1.mantraonline.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with ESMTP id G0VAJ902.OBK for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 03:06:45 -0500 Message-ID: <39C08E38.E5106399@infini.org.in> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:07:12 +0530 From: Maneesh Bomb X-approved-by: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Agenda for the meet? References: <20000713221937.8142.qmail@web120.yahoomail.com> <006f01bfeda6$6caa08e0$1f32a8c0@eth.net> <007301c01e1c$b9df4a70$31a764a4@tn.nic.in> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: bomb@infini.org.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear folks, So whats the talk going to be on this month folks? Any new happenings? I have got the permission form SuSE guys to mirror their website, hope to finalise it at the meeting once I have a discussion with Dr Sriram. Hoping I would get a copy of latest release of SuSE 7.0 after their intial round of sale is over I would bring the same at the next meet (if I recv). - Maneesh --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 14 12:51:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519D64A1C1 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA09561; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:11:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:11:04 (IST) Received: from symonds.net (mail@adsl-63-194-20-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.20.32]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA09554 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 01:11:01 +0530 Received: from ravi by symonds.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13ZesP-0006uy-00; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:40:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:40:53 -0700 From: "Ravikant K. Rao" To: Linux-Chennai Guys Subject: September 2000's Meeting Details Message-ID: <20000914124053.A26572@symonds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hey guys, Yes - I would prefer a meeting on 23rd, because I wont be around on 16th - But I guess Maneesh had cancelled tickets or somesuch to Delhi(?) - So yeah, someone please keep the list updated so I dont miss a meet, unless I *have* to - I already missed last one, and feel pretty ugly about it :-( What is the agenda too BTW? I suppose the BangaloreIT.COM is gonna be discussed in depth? Hmm -ravi --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 07:21:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CD14A0BD for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14142; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:31:29 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:30:59 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14136 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:30:52 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.147.251]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04328 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:22:44 +0500 Message-ID: <39C22B54.87CC514D@chennailug.org> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 19:29:48 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Meeting References: <39C04FD9.497485F1@chennailug.org> <39C08D2A.815B6E6E@infini.org.in> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi all! > Lets not post-pone the meeting I delayed my trip to Delhi so I could be here > for the meet. If it going to be held on 23rd I wouldn't be here. My vote for > 16th Sept. > As of now my Side stands strong (with two Votes) and Bomb's Side with 1 vote. I remember hearing that DR.P.Sriram and Prabhu have "no problemo"s pushing the meet to the 23rd. Whatever may be the decision. Let me know. I gotta update the site so that newbies can attend. Right now it points to the 23rd. Expecting a favourable reply (-; -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 08:32:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527EF4A12F for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14412; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:45:34 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:45:03 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14404 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:44:59 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 477 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:39:18 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13ZxCQ-0000WC-00 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:44:46 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:44:46 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Meeting tommorow or on 23rd? Please vote! X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14786.15548.805509.938235@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear Luggies, We have a problem. Maneesh Bomb has postponed his tickets to attend the meeting on the 16th of this month. He will not be able to attend the meeting on the 23rd. Two others (Suraj and Ravikant) have requested that the meeting be held on the 16th. I am unable to decide on what to do. I therefore request all the members (who want to attend the meeting and have a preference) to mail me personally, their choice, (tommorow or 23rd), ASAP. I will wait till 9:00AM tomorrow (or is that too late?) and then use the results to decide. As regards the agenda. There is none planned. Maybe I will talk about what is going on at LI-Registration. We could also plan for future sessions, discuss about potato CD's etc. :) thanks, prabhu p.s. If Ravi or Suraj do not mind if we have the meeting tommorow please let me know ASAP. p.p.s I had sent this messg earlier at 4:00 pm. I have no idea where it was eaten up. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 08:45:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02204A104 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14505; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:58:17 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:57:47 (IST) Received: from web124.yahoomail.com (web124.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.192]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA14497 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:57:44 +0530 Received: (qmail 20073 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Sep 2000 15:27:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000915152724.20072.qmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.56.193.120] by web124.yahoomail.com; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:27:24 PDT Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:27:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ananth S." Subject: Re: Meeting To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ananth99@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, no probs with me on either dates! looking forward towards it! Ananth ===== There are no coincidence in life..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 09:23:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298884A15D for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14739; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:40:51 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:40:20 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14733 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:40:19 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 635 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:34:09 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13ZtND-0000Ha-00 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:39:39 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:39:39 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Meeting tommorow or on 23rd? Please vote! X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14786.325.506879.875016@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear Luggies, We have a problem. Maneesh Bomb has postponed his tickets to attend the meeting on the 16th of this month. He will not be able to attend the meeting on the 23rd. Two others (Suraj and Ravikant) have requested that the meeting be held on the 16th. I am unable to decide on what to do. I therefore request all the members (who want to attend the meeting and have a preference) to mail me personally, their choice, (tommorow or 23rd), ASAP. I will wait till 9:00AM tomorrow (or is that too late?) and then use the results to decide. As regards the agenda. There is none planned. Maybe I will talk about what is going on at LI-Registration. We could also plan for future sessions, discuss about potato CD's etc. :) thanks, prabhu p.s. If Ravi or Suraj do not mind if we have the meeting tommorow please let me know ASAP. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 09:57:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C703A4A14D for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14821; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:07:32 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:07:01 (IST) Received: from eth.net (ddsl.net [202.9.145.10] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14674 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:21:29 +0530 Received: from eth.net ([10.2.1.41]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:36:40 +0530 Received: from nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in ([202.9.181.185]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 08:38:53 +0530 Sender: bomb@aero.iitm.ernet.in Message-ID: <39C1A20C.93F8FA9E@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 09:44:04 +0530 From: Maneesh Bomb X-approved-by: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: September 2000's Meeting Details References: <20000914124053.A26572@symonds.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: bomb@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, I have got to go to Delhi on Sunday and will be back only next Sunday - why not stcik to our orginal date of 16th Sept? My vote is still for 16th Sept!! - Maneesh --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 11:11:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5289C4A1D3 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15057; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:29:47 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:29:17 (IST) Received: from symonds.net (mail@adsl-63-194-20-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.20.32]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15049 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:29:12 +0530 Received: from ravi by symonds.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13ZzlQ-0005cf-00; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:59:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 10:59:04 -0700 From: "Ravikant K. Rao" To: Linux-Chennai Guys Subject: Re: Meeting tommorow or on 23rd? Please vote! Message-ID: <20000915105904.A21435@symonds.net> References: <14786.325.506879.875016@monster.linux.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14786.325.506879.875016@monster.linux.in>; from prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in on Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:39:39PM +0530 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 04:39:39PM +0530, Prabhu Ramachandran wrote: > Dear Luggies, > > We have a problem. Maneesh Bomb has postponed his tickets to Houston, We have a problem?! ;-) > attend the meeting on the 16th of this month. He will not be able to > attend the meeting on the 23rd. Two others (Suraj and Ravikant) have > requested that the meeting be held on the 16th. I am unable to decide *I* personally requested 23rd, not 16th - I think thats a typo in there, in Prabhu's email? > choice, (tommorow or 23rd), ASAP. I will wait till 9:00AM tomorrow > (or is that too late?) and then use the results to decide. Personally, I dont think its "too late" -For the 20 something of us that attend the meets, we are pretty regular about it, *and* all of us do infact have pretty okay net access. (or dont we?) > p.s. If Ravi or Suraj do not mind if we have the meeting tommorow > please let me know ASAP. Nice try, but no dice ;) me thinks I am gonna play dirty by subscribing some email aliases to ilugc now, and vote for them, for the 23rd - Suraj: *wink* *wink* -ravi "got his own openbsd tee-shirt" rao --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 17:07:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E604A103 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00344; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 05:26:08 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 05:25:38 (IST) Received: from phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.2]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA00330 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 05:25:30 +0530 Received: (qmail 82212 invoked by alias); 15 Sep 2000 23:55:15 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 81756 invoked by uid 0); 15 Sep 2000 23:55:04 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop2.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 15 Sep 2000 23:55:04 -0000 Message-ID: <004701c01f70$3bfbcd90$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: Subject: Opinions please! I am only a messanger. Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:54:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hey ya all: I am ancient! This is not an attempt to knock LINUX; 8 of my lab systems run LINUX of many castes. (RedHat, Debian, Susie, Mandrake..).I came across some provacative comments from people I respect for their knowhow. Here is what they have to say Mr.Rob Pike of Bell Labs ..Co-author of 'The Practice of Programming' with Brian Kernighan in one of his recent presentation.. SYSTEM SOFTWARE RESEARCH is IRRELEVANT ! All of it at http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/rob/utah2000.pdf 7 Linux Innovation? New? No, it's just another copy of the same old stuff. OLD stuff. Compare program development on Linux with Microsoft Visual Studio or one of the IBM Java/web toolkits. Linux's success may indeed be the single strongest argument for my thesis: The excitement generated by a clone of a decades-old operating system demonstrates the void that the systems software research community has failed to fill. Besides, Linux's cleverness is not in the software, but in the development model, hardly a triumph of academic CS (especially software engineering) by any measure. 17 Linux the Academic Microsoft Windows The holy trinity: Linux, gcc, and Netscape. Of course, it's just another orthodoxy. These have become icons not because of what they are, but because of what they are not: Microsoft. But technically, they're not that hot. And Microsoft has been working hard, and I claim that on many (not all) dimensions, their corresponding products are superior technically. And they continue to improve. Linux may fall into the Macintosh trap: smug isolation leading to (near) obsolescence. Besides, systems research is doing little to advance the trinity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>end Pike's Spike <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< And now, here is what MULTICIAN have to say about UNIX. Excerpt from alt.multics.os.. Actually, Unix is anything but elegant. It prided itself on providing a set of oversimplified, inadequate, and arcane tools that could, with great difficulty, be assembled by a do-it-yourself-er into something that almost, but not quite, worked - but not reliably. It was an unsecure single-user system; all the security and multi-user features have been added on since, which goes a long way toward explaining why Unix is so unsecure. Here's my top ten Multics-only features: Multics had, and Unix did NOT: 1. Standard Command Arguments. An arg of -a meant -all for every command; same for -l (long), -b (brief), etc. How wonderful that was! You could just start using commands without having to use help, and it was always easy to come back to Multics without having to re-learn. Unix commands are all over the map, and very hard to remember. 2. Actual Error Messages - lots of 'em. Not only did Multics have more than 32,000 possible error codes, you could make your own error_segment_ and add 32,000 more for your own program without conflicting with the OS error codes. Unix has only 256 error codes (a holdover from the 8-bit days) and gives errors like "enomem", which could mean a problem in shmem, semaphore, stack, virtual memory, output buffer, heap, etc., forcing users to use guessing as a debug method. Jim Falksen referred to these as "content-free messages"; one wondered why Unix bothered to print anything at all. On some Unix systems (notably the DTC-II SunOS boxes) the "panic" message (just the word panic, nothing else) was output on the printer port - if you didn't have a printer, you saw no error message at all... 3. Real Virtual Memory - automated! While porting applications to Unix, I discovered how much Multics was actually doing underneath. In Unix, you have to manually map/unmap memory areas (and unmap/re-map if the size changes). It's like the difference between a self-propelled mower and a push-mower: they both cut grass, but one gives you a lot more exercise. The Unix error for accessing beyond the end of mapped memory? Bus Error! Very helpful. 4. Real Access Control. The access control in Unix file systems is so inadequate, it's really pathetic. ACLs, Ring Brackets, & AIM made things so secure. Half the attacks on our servers couldn't have even started under Multics... 5. Support for SMP (actually Asynchronous MP - the CPUs didn't all have to be the same) long, long before Unix. This was, as Tom pointed out, part of the reliability aspect of Multics - but it impacted performance as well. 6. Dynamic Linking. Oh, my, how I miss this! Recompile one program out of 300, and then just re-run the test. Or, tmsr inside the debugger, edit & recompile the defective program, then jump down one stack frame and re-execute the call. It was possible to replace parts of a large running program without restarting it... ENWGS was routinely patched (e-fixed) in this way. 7. Long Date Storage. 72-bits. No Y2K bug. No 2028 bug. Dates in Multics won't run out for thousands of years yet... 8. Re-startable Condition Handling. OK, some conditions can't be re-started; but some can. Record Quota Overflow, for example. Use a cleanup routine in an RQO handler to delete temp files, and you can keep your program running. The same occurrence in Unix is a Core Dump. Which reminds me... 9. Easy Debugging. No Core Dumps. Every program halt causes a wall in the stack, allowing the debugger to be invoked to analyze, repair, and restart the frozen program. I hate Core Dumps... 10. Terminal Control. The ctls in Multics were far superior to any of the termcap & terminfo controls available in Unix. Anyway, that's my list for now. I'll probably think of more later... -RAM For those who are not ancient MULTICS is the Brahma of all OS. It was developed in MIT in the 60's. UNIX development by Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie was inspired by MULTICS. One of them was a MULTICS developer. Cheers, Keky Robertson --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 21:11:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2551B4A12D for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00837; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:29:34 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:29:04 (IST) Received: from eth.net (ddsl.net [202.9.145.10] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00831 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:29:04 +0530 Received: from eth.net ([10.2.1.41]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.117.11); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:23:52 +0530 Received: from nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in ([202.9.147.148]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:26:06 +0530 Sender: bomb@aero.iitm.ernet.in Message-ID: <39C2FE9F.FE2FE87C@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:31:19 +0530 From: Maneesh Bomb X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: 16th Sept Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: bomb@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Do we meet today? - Maneesh --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 21:18:14 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3D54A100 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00912; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:38:57 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:38:26 (IST) Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00905 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:38:25 +0530 Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.199.224.184]) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07122 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:46:22 +0530 (IST) Sender: zameer@md2.vsnl.net.in Message-ID: <39C33F2B.71638738@bigfoot.com> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:06:43 +0530 From: Zameer Ahmed Organization: Lateral Software Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: 16th Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: zameer@bigfoot.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi Prabhu, My vote 16th Regards Zameer Ahmed --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 21:32:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5D64A098 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:32:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01018; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:53:25 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:52:55 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01004 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:52:54 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 228 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:47:08 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13a9Up-0000J8-00 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:52:35 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 09:52:34 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Meeting is today! (was: 16th) In-Reply-To: <39C33F2B.71638738@bigfoot.com> References: <39C33F2B.71638738@bigfoot.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14786.62495.949920.595411@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, It is 9:45 AM. I have received the foll. votes For 16th: Maneesh Bomb, Midhun Kumar and Zameer Ahmed. For 23rd: Ravikant K. Rao and Suraj. Therefore as per our democratic process the metting will be held today. i.e. 16th September 2000, Saturday at the usual 3:30 pm at the computer center IIT-Madras. Thank's Zameer for your vote. If not for your vote we'd be stuck again. :) thanks, prabhu p.s. I didnt smell any foul play. None of the messages seemed to be spoofed. >>>>> "Zameer" == Zameer Ahmed writes: Zameer> Hi Prabhu, Zameer> My vote 16th --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 22:22:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46244A053 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01727; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:41:54 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:41:23 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01721 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:41:20 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.180.45]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15357 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:33:37 +0500 Message-ID: <39C3028D.E7133FCD@chennailug.org> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 10:48:05 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: hmmm.... this meet stuff Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi every one, I remember my mom telling me something like I have "Ashtamathula Sani" and prolly thats why I can't attend this meet. )-: Can someone take up the job of posting the minutes, taking the attendance this time? Pls make the minutes thing available as soon as possible. -Suraj --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 15 23:15:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8684A140 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2000 23:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01953; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:30:50 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:30:20 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01946 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:30:19 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 715; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:24:37 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13aB15-00007M-00; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:29:59 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 11:29:59 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Cc: Maneesh Bomb Subject: Meeting is today - repeated announcement (was 16th Sept) In-Reply-To: <39C2FE9F.FE2FE87C@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in> References: <39C2FE9F.FE2FE87C@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14787.3005.26106.234379@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, Yes! Please read my earlier announcement. We meet _today_, the 16th of Sept, at 3:30pm at the IITM Computer center. prabhu p.s. sorry for the repeated post but just in case. >>>>> "Maneesh" == Maneesh Bomb writes: Maneesh> Do we meet today? - Maneesh --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 16 01:08:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75924A0D3 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 01:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02246; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:25:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:24:45 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02238 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:24:45 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 668 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:19:03 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13aCny-0000Az-00 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:24:34 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 13:24:33 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Yamaha OPL3-SAx In-Reply-To: <39C04FD9.497485F1@chennailug.org> References: <39C04FD9.497485F1@chennailug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14787.9465.339566.825730@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "Suraj" == Suraj co in writes: Suraj> But I read in the kernel docs that when a snd card in Suraj> detected all the respective services such as MIDI, ESD, Suraj> AUDIO etc., are initialised. Why Suraj> isn't this happenning? Am I supposed to change the major, Suraj> minors of /dev/audio, etc.,? Card config: CS4232 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0 OPL3SA2 at 0x370 irq 9 drq 0,1 OPL3SA2 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0 Loopback MIDI Device drq 0 The above are the devices that have been successfully initialised. The ones with brackets are not detected. Technically this should work fine. But unfortunately the line, Audio Devices: is empty therefore your sound card doesnt work. I used to have a YMF719. Here are the parameters that used to work. I prefer compiling sound as a module. So here is what I remember I used to do. I would compile the opl3sa2 and all the modules necessary for it. I think opl3, mss, mpu401, ad1848 and opl3sa2 should do. Read the docs for details. Then I played with installing the modules by doing modprobe opl3sa2 with different io, mss_io, mpu_io, irq, and dma channels. Finally I got one particular setting working and here is my old /etc/modules -- # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # ... opl3sa2 io=0x370 mss_io=0x530 mpu_io=0x330 irq=9 dma=1 dma2=0 opl3 io=0x388 -- Maybe you could try this. hope this helps, prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 16 20:25:58 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A726049F49 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 2000 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02027; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:44:18 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:43:47 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02018 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:43:42 +0530 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id IAA30307 for ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:36:14 +0500 Received: from os4 ([203.199.227.103]) by alpha.focusite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA09385 for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:32:16 +0530 Message-ID: <000001c02053$d2ee2250$67e3c7cb@chennai.cibsnet.net> From: "Pichai Asokan" To: References: <39C2FE9F.FE2FE87C@nimbus.ee.iitm.ernet.in> <14787.3005.26106.234379@monster.linux.in> Subject: Re: Meeting is today - repeated announcement (was 16th Sept) Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2000 15:06:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: pasokan@os4.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Looks like I have to skip this one too. We have a meeting of ascent (ASsociation of Cyber ENTerpreneurs) in my office. Have a nice time folks. The Debian and openBSD 2.7 official CDs have been UPSed. SHould be reaching in 2/3 days. But I will be starting for US on 19th - so if anyone wants these CDs please mail ravi@chennaionline.com or call him up 8412999 or 8413536 I will be checking the mailing list from US too. SO will post on knowing when it reaches Chennai. See you in the OCT meeting :-% P Asokan --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 01:21:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04424A04D for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06535; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:33:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:33:04 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06529 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:33:01 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05355 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:38:48 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:38:48 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: minutes of the meeting????? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc can anybody post the minutes of the last meeting to the list, it would be nice. ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 01:26:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A484A025 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06527; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:32:37 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:32:06 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06517 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:32:01 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05350 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:37:44 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:37:44 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: background mail sending in pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc while sending mail from pine, it is returning to the mainmenu only after sending the mail. Is there anyway to get the mainmenu immd. after pressing Ctrl+X (for send) so that the mail sending occurs in the background. ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 01:32:15 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98A74A04D for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 01:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06552; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:35:22 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:34:51 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06540 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:34:47 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05362 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:40:27 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 13:40:27 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Free Software Company Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:03:16 +0530 (IST) From: Radhakrishnan C V Reply-To: tuglist@river-valley.com To: TUGIndia Mailing List Subject: [tuglist] Free Software Company I hope most of you might have heard about Richard M. Stallman (RMS) and the Free Software Foundation (FSF), especially those aligned with TeX are no doubt allies of the free software movement ignited by RMS. An intense discussion is going on at freedevelopers@topica.com for the formation of a Free Software Company entirely owned by the free developers world wide (we expect 100,000 developers) to safeguard the moral, social and ethical foundations on which FSF was built up, to provide appropriate monetary compensation and quality life to a free software developer he deserves in all the fairness and to fight the merciless commerce of the proprietary software corporates. These being the primary objectives, RMS and Tony Stanco (an associate of RMS, who moderates the list) describe it in the following way: 1. Proprietary code is the enemy. It must be destroyed for developers and the world to be free. Open source is an ally. 2. Developers can be paid salaries and/or stock options to work on free code without violating the core principles of free code. 3. Mergers and acquisitions of proprietary companies are not objectionable in defeating proprietary. 4. A company of free developers, by free developers, for free developers is an acceptable vehicle to achieve the ends of free code. 5. A requirement in the certificate of incorporation that all code owned by the company is licensed under GPL or other tying to FSF is appropriate to ensure that the core principles of free software are observed going forward and to protect from slipping back to proprietary. 6. A democratic, free developer run corporation does not require special safeguards to protect ordinary world citizens. As one of the developing nations, in India where automation has just started, Free Software Company and FSF have plenty of implications. 1. In the first place, our poor economy cant afford to the fancy prices of proprietary software (maybe due to the foriegn exchange conversion magic). 2. Free Software can meet any objective, functionality that is claimed by the proprietary. 3. The huge man power resources generated in each and every place of higher academic learning in this country get a chance to contribute to the free software movement, while he earns a substantially increased income comparable to his counterpart in any proprietary corporate, as an employee of the proposed company. The discussions tend to provide the standard wages in India as in any part of the world. That will surely solve the disturbing problems of migration in many an Indian family. 4. There are plenty of requirement for software in this country for meeting its target of total automation for which each and every government or other agencies stand for today. Free software can meet their objectives on sound moral, ethical and social foundations than any other proprietary corporate. A Case Study: ------------ The Govt. of Kerala has formed an IT mission to automate the 1000 and odd Gram Panchayats of this state. It is a massive and aggressive project to bring details of all the citizens of this state into a huge database, each Panchayat becoming a resource center for the government and at the same time act as the information exchange medium between the public and the government. This is an ideal project for the free software movement. The government have earmarked around Rs. 8 lakhs per Panchayat for using proprietary software and related development as initial investment and Rs. 1.5 lakh as annual recurring expenses. While this came as a proposal, the Linux Users and TeX Users Groups came forward to negotiate with the government to do the project at a cost of Rs. 1 lakh per Panchyat as initial expenses and near nothing as recurring expenses. But we were turned down, just because, we were considered to be a group of free thinkers, whom no responsible government can rely upon. Had there been a corporate entity with FSF objectives to compete with the proprietary agencies, the public exchecquer would have saved millions of rupees, the developers in this or neighbouring states would have got employment. Still the project is not finalized due to the media stir we raised and the seminars of users groups wherein the government nominees were special invitees. To make matters difficult for the government, the Cochin Linux Users Group came up with a viable, stable, functional software model which the political bureaucracy cannot overlook or deny. The final decision was postponed and still lingering. That means we have not lost the race, the global Free Software Company can still fight it out once it is formally incorporated. Tens of thousands of projects are in the offing which we all can undertake. This is the case in many other countries world wide. There are a quite a number of posts in the freedevelopers list similar to this from West European countries. Therefore, if you believe in the non-exploitative future of this land and the world at large and if you believe in the objectives of free software movement, you are always welcome to make the Free Software Company a reality. It requires the developer in you, not for free, but for a standard compensation as in any other proprietary corporate. Why don't you subscribe to the discussions by sending a mail to: freedevelopers-subscribe@topica.com with a word `subscribe' in the subject line? You are not alone, but you are going to meet/associate with some of the greatest minds of this era in this movement. And remember, Free Software Company is going to be the greatest event in the history of Internet and India should have its fare representation and share. Comments are welcome. -- Radhakrishnan --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 02:20:53 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37DF4A023 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06895; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:18:28 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:17:57 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06885 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:17:51 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.147.97]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12388 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:10:08 +0500 Message-ID: <39C72817.8D96ED14@chennailug.org> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:17:19 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: minutes of the meeting????? References: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi all Thats what I was about to ask. The Set of pages for this month are ready but for the minutes. -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 02:49:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D6F4A034 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07160; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:02:40 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:02:10 (IST) Received: from finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in (IDENT:root@finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.50]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07149 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:02:08 +0530 Received: from localhost (ae98019@localhost) by finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05177 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:04:48 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in: ae98019 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:04:47 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Kiran Grandhi To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Re: background mail sending in pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ae98019@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc There is... In the pine Setup->Config->[ Sending Preferences ] check the `enable-background-sending' option. When pine asks for confirmation while sending, press to send in background. That is the way I senr this message ;-) On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, M K Saravanan wrote: > while sending mail from pine, it is returning to the mainmenu only after > sending the mail. Is there anyway to get the mainmenu immd. after > pressing Ctrl+X (for send) so that the mail sending occurs in the > background. > > ** mks ** --- Raj Kiran Grandhi ae98019@aero.iitm.ernet.in --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 02:54:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FBC4A034 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 02:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07197; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:08:31 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:08:00 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07190 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 15:07:56 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.147.97]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12544 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:21:32 +0500 Message-ID: <39C72ABE.675B1C7E@chennailug.org> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 14:28:38 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: I_Luv_ILUGC Subject: [Fwd: ilugc site comments] Banner Exchange? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi all, I received this mail from the Mktg. Dir of proudindianz.com. He has asked if we can exchange banner with them. Though I was about to deny, I thought it would be wise to ask this to you all. My personal vote is a NO. ProudIndianz wrote: > Dear Webmaster > Are you interested in swapping banners with www.proudindianz.com? > Truly > Mary Alex > Director, Marketing > proudindianz.com -Suraj -- ------------------------------------------------------------ $ cd /pub $ more beer ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 05:25:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8444A0E1 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 05:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07885; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:38:52 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:38:22 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07878 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:38:18 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 788 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:32:32 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13bLcU-0000fA-00 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:01:26 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 17:01:23 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: [Fwd: ilugc site comments] Banner Exchange? In-Reply-To: <39C72ABE.675B1C7E@chennailug.org> References: <39C72ABE.675B1C7E@chennailug.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14791.19909.291209.277146@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, Arun and me vote: no. The reason is that ilugc is not a commercial entity and adverts are not essential. Please send a polite reply indicating ilugc's status. thanks, prabhu p.s. If anyone has objections, please air them. >>>>> "Suraj" == Suraj co in writes: Suraj> Hi all, I received this mail from the Mktg. Dir of Suraj> proudindianz.com. He has asked if we can exchange banner Suraj> with them. Though I was about to deny, I thought it would Suraj> be wise to ask this to you all. My personal vote is a NO. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 06:00:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6618449F62 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 06:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08056; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:11:29 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:10:58 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08043 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:10:56 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01330 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:17:11 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 18:17:11 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: perl utility for RFC. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc ** pasted from LIP list ** Look for this cute perl program, "rfc", which gives information like above in a jiffy! http://www.dewn.com/rfc/ this is really nice. (atleast for me ;-) ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 07:19:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE4C4A00A for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08458; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:34:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:33:46 (IST) Received: from hd1.vsnl.net.in (hd1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.30.1]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08452 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:33:42 +0530 Received: from 202.54.30.69 ([202.54.30.69]) by hd1.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23341 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:17:56 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 19:37:54 +0530 From: BGanesh X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Organization: Sunya X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <79146431144.20000919193754@vsnl.com> To: Prabhu Ramachandran Subject: Re: [Fwd: ilugc site comments] Banner Exchange? In-reply-To: <14791.19909.291209.277146@monster.linux.in> References: <39C72ABE.675B1C7E@chennailug.org> <14791.19909.291209.277146@monster.linux.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: BGa@vsnl.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, I vote : no banners. I we cannot live without the advert revenue we can always move to a banner-free free site... BGa --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 09:46:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FE44A014 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA08972; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:01:13 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:00:43 (IST) Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA08965 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:00:38 +0530 Received: (qmail 2165 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2000 16:30:33 -0000 Message-ID: <20000919163033.2164.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.56.193.1] by web121.yahoomail.com; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:30:33 PDT Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:30:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ananth S." Subject: unofficial minutes... To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ananth99@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hmm..here's what i remember from last meeting.. the meeting started at around 4:30pm with Dr. Prabhu telling us about the ILUG and why we needed to have a seperate organization to represent Linux India for various reasons, among them to get sponserships. The various lug groups will belong under the central India Lug. The exact details are being worked out. at about 5pm, Zameer(?) gave a brief description about IT.com '99 b'lore stall details and the proposed stall details for the IT 2k to be held in Nov. the meeting ended at around 6:30pm with a final discussion on instant messengers, back orifice and quake playing under linux. :) the total attendence was around 12 ( i think)... please send me any corrections!! i do not gaurentee the accuracy of these volatile notes from my gray matter... Ananth ===== There are no coincidence in life..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 09:56:16 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972244A00B for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09048; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:13:43 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:13:12 (IST) Received: from garuda.aero.iitm.ernet.in (ae98016@garuda.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.17]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA09036 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:13:11 +0530 Received: from localhost (ae98016@localhost) by garuda.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14191 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:13:10 +0530 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:13:09 +0530 (IST) From: A Midhun Kumar To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: unofficial minutes... [2].bz2 In-Reply-To: <20000919163033.2164.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ae98016@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc The main idea of having an noted organisation that is legally registed is to raise funds for EVENTS. This would be a non-profit organisation and NO money would be saved for further use. The money would be made and then used for the event. As for the present IT.com ilugb is the representative and that would have to register as a organisation immediately. This event IT.com is an event for the whole ILUG. The problem lies in that if there has to be any sponsor there should be an organisation to which the funds are being given ( auditing etc fundaes...) So there should definitely be one organisation and here it is. Composition of the forming body is being discussed. There was a small argument about giving publicity to ilugc. thats what I remember. bye, Midhun (love) kumar. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 21:14:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4664A128 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10827; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:20:59 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:20:29 (IST) Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10816 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:20:24 +0530 Received: from PRINTBOY ([203.199.220.90]) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA24521 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:28:44 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <002901c022b5$bea233e0$6701a8c0@GUILDINFOTECH.COM> From: "zameer" To: Subject: Minutes of the meeting - 16/09/2000 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:18:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: zameer@bigfoot.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Minutes of the meeting for ILUG-C --------------------------------- Date : 16/09/2000 Place : IIT Computer Center, IIT Campus Chennai-36 Agenda : Discussion on the formalisation of ILUG-India No. of Attendees : 12 Details: -------- ILUGC met at 3:30pm at the Computer Center of the Indian Institute of Madras. The familiar faces of Dr. 'Original' Sriram, 'web-master' Suraj and the 'jumpin' Ravi were notably missing for the meet. The meeting was kicked off by 'apt-get' Prabhu and issues regarding the formalization of ILUG-India were discussed at length. It was announced that at this year's IT.com, ILUG-Bangalore would represent Linux-India. This is a stop gap arrangement for this year. This was followed by the discussions on how to popularize the LUG activities in Chennai especially in the colleges. It was proposed to publicize LUG activities by advertising the agenda and meeting details in the Classifieds section of 'The Hindu' (Votes on this please). Midhun Kumar has taken up responsibility for participation of ILUG-C at the technical exhibition, Shaastra at, IIT-M. P.S >> I mailing this from my clients place from a windows box !!! Please no spams on this as I don't have a machine here yet.. Anyway Linux Rulezzz!!!!!! --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 21:52:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306CC4A04A for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 21:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11118; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:03:48 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:03:17 (IST) Received: from indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in ([202.162.226.2]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11112 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:02:51 +0530 From: prahladv@nagar.com Received: from indiaworld2.indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in (popgate.nagar.com [202.162.226.4]) by indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in (8.9.0/8.8.9) with ESMTP id JAA26130 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:44:46 +0530 Message-Id: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Note: Latest version at http://www.netcore.co.in Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 9:44:44 IST X-Mailer: NetMail 1.0 Subject: learning linux X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prahladv@nagar.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Sirs, i am a college student anda newbie to linux (been using it for abt 15 days now). i am planning to write the exam conducted by Linux Professionals Institute (lpi). I want to know what book I can use to learn. The most comprehensive book I have found is Linux Unleashed. Please tell me if this book is worth it. If yes, Please tell me if I should go in for "RedHat 6.0 Unleashed" (bcos i run RH 6.1 on my system) or for "Linux Unleashed". If no, please tell me which book I can use and where i can find it too. I want a book that covers all the basic stuff like installation, command index, networking, samba, kernel hacking, etc, plus programming stuff like (at least) the basics of perl, java, c, cpp, etc. thanks.c ya. prahlad. -- This message will self-destruct in 5 Seconds. -- ------------------------------------------------- Create your email account at http://www.nagar.com ------------------------------------------------- --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 22:14:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E834A01B for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11284; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:24:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:23:46 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11278 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:23:42 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 195 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:17:45 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13bRcO-0000DE-00 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:25:44 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:25:44 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: unofficial minutes... In-Reply-To: <20000919163033.2164.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> References: <20000919163033.2164.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14791.42863.418723.806378@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "Ananth" == Ananth S writes: Ananth> hmm..here's what i remember from last meeting.. the Ananth> meeting started at around 4:30pm with Dr. Prabhu telling ^^^^^^ Not yet. :) Still a grad student. Thanks for the minutes. Zameer will most probably send the official minutes soon. thanks, prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 22:43:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240934A01D for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11486; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:58:29 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:59 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11478 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:55 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 225 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:52:01 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13bcPq-0004wE-00 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:30 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:30 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: learning linux In-Reply-To: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> References: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14792.18901.298394.982873@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "prahladv" == prahladv writes: prahladv> Sirs, i am a college student anda newbie to linux (been prahladv> using it for abt 15 days now). i am planning to write prahladv> the exam conducted by Linux Professionals Institute prahladv> (lpi). I want to know what book I can use to learn. The prahladv> most comprehensive book I have found is Linux prahladv> Unleashed. Please tell me if this book is worth it. If prahladv> yes, Please tell me if I should go in for "RedHat 6.0 prahladv> Unleashed" (bcos i run RH 6.1 on my system) or for prahladv> "Linux Unleashed". If no, please tell me which book I prahladv> can use and where i can find it too. I want a book that prahladv> covers all the basic stuff like installation, command prahladv> index, networking, samba, kernel hacking, etc, plus prahladv> programming stuff like (at least) the basics of perl, prahladv> java, c, cpp, etc. thanks.c ya. Different people like differing books. So the best suggestion would be to go to a good book store and look at all the candidates and then pick the best. There are quite a few books on linux out there today. Since you are serious about linux you can ignore the "Dummy" series books. I believe that the "unleashed" books are fairly comprehensive (I have never read any linux books myself) and are also reasonably priced. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 22:45:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70064A014 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:45:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11531; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:02:32 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:02:01 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11519 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:01:58 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03053 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:00:20 +0530 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:00:20 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Doing downloads in the background with lynx Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear luggies, I would like to spawn wget whenever I want to do a download in lynx ( I don't want to wait). /etc/lynx.cfg has an option EXTERNAL , I have turned that option on and still it doesn't work (May be there is some key which I have to use & not the normal download (d) ). Could anyone help me ? -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 22:52:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDF94A01C for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11476; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:41 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:11 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11462 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 10:57:05 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02361 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:03:13 +0530 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:03:13 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: learning linux In-Reply-To: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Wed, 20 Sep 2000 prahladv@nagar.com wrote: > I want a book that covers all the basic stuff like installation, > command index, networking, samba, kernel hacking, etc, plus > programming stuff like (at least) the basics of perl, java, c, cpp, Try "Beginning Linux Programming - 2nd edn." by Neil Mathews & Richard Stones (Wrox Publishers Rs.500/-). It is one of the best book to start with. ** mks ** -- ******************************************************************** M K Saravanan, Member Research Staff, The AU-KBC Centre for Internet & Telecom Technologies, Madras Institute of Technology, Anna University, Chromepet, Chennai 600 044. Tamilnadu, INDIA Tel (O): 91 44 2417885 Email: mksarav@mitindia.edu Telefax (O): 91 44 2402711 URL : http://mksarav.tripod.com ******************************************************************* --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 22:59:43 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBCF4A1E1 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11565; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:05:14 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:04:44 (IST) Received: from finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in (IDENT:root@finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.50]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11547; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:04:42 +0530 Received: from localhost (ae98019@localhost) by finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03783; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:07:23 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: finch.aero.iitm.ernet.in: ae98019 owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:07:23 +0530 (IST) From: Raj Kiran Grandhi To: M K Saravanan Cc: Linux India User Group Subject: Re: background mail sending in pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ae98019@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, See help for `enable-delivery-status-notification' in Setup->Config->[ Sending Preferences ] On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, M K Saravanan wrote: > > Setup->Config->[ Sending Preferences ] > > check the `enable-background-sending' option. When pine asks for > > confirmation while sending, press to send in background. > > What is meant by DSNOpts that is shown while pressing Ctrl-R? > > ** mks ** > -- Raj Kiran Grandhi ae98019@aero.iitm.ernet.in --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 19 23:36:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BDD49EFB for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11844; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:51:42 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:51:12 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11838 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:51:08 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 176 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:45:25 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13bdFT-00057s-00 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:50:51 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:50:51 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Doing downloads in the background with lynx In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14792.21937.87796.830671@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "Athena" == Athena writes: Athena> Dear luggies, I would like to spawn wget whenever I want Athena> to do a download in lynx ( I don't want to Athena> wait). /etc/lynx.cfg has an option EXTERNAL , I have Athena> turned that option on and still it doesn't work (May be Athena> there is some key which I have to use & not the normal Athena> download (d) ). Could anyone help me ? Under debian you can make the d key do exactly what you want by uncommenting and defining the DOWNLOADER item. Something like DOWNLOADER:Use wget to download: wget -b %s:TRUE Alternatively, you could use the mouse to cut the url, then hit '!' and do a wget -b and then exit. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 00:00:21 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAEC4A151 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11996; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:15:41 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:15:11 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11990 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:15:07 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04310 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:13:39 +0530 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:13:39 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Doing downloads in the background with lynx In-Reply-To: <14792.21937.87796.830671@monster.linux.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear Prabu, Thanks for the reply. The DOWNLOADER entry bring up the menu only after lynx downloads the file, I want wget to download the file (I don't want to wait when lynx downloads a huge file). -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 00:04:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1AD54A13D for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 00:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12040; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:22:36 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:22:06 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12032 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:22:00 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04425 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:20:32 +0530 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:20:32 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Doing downloads in the background with lynx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear luggies, I found out how to do it. I have to use "." to invoke the external program. -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 02:11:04 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369A04A023 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 02:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12813; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:17:46 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:17:16 (IST) Received: from hd1.vsnl.net.in (hd1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.30.1]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12807 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:17:04 +0530 Received: from 202.54.30.68 ([202.54.30.68]) by hd1.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07047 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:01:41 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:21:39 +0530 From: BGanesh X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.45) Personal Organization: Sunya X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <52213865794.20000920142139@vsnl.com> To: "prahladv@nagar.com" Subject: Re: learning linux In-reply-To: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> References: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: BGa@vsnl.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi Prahlad, pnc> I want a book that covers all the basic stuff [snip] There isn't any one book that covers all that you've listed, and if it did I'd be wary of it.. lots of the topics you mention require lots of time and effort to cover... Here are some books that might help : >installation No idea, sorry. I usually get hardware that I know is supported (or ask folks on the LUG's if you dunno what h/w might work, but only after you've researched it, don't use this as an alternate to sites and search engines) >command index apropos This command will help you find anything hat might be close to what you are looking for. "A Practical Guide to Linux" by Mark G. Sobell (Addision Wesley) >networking To learn TCP/IP grab Vol I of TCP/IP by Richard Stevens. To learn network programming, get "Unix Network Programming", Richard Stevens. Andrew Tannenbaum's "Computer Networks" is a good book for the basics. "O'Reilly & Associates" has "TCP/IP Network Administration" (good for beginners) and "DNS & BIND". >samba "teach yourself Samba in 24 hours" (no, really. Good book) There is also "Using Samba" from O'Reilly, and I there is an online version at : http://us1.samba.org/samba/oreilly/using_samba/ >kernel hacking, etc, Your next query includes programming, so I'd assume you want to get really good at C before you attempt this... >basics of : >perl "Learning Perl" by By Randal Schwartz, Tom Christiansen & Larry Wall from O'Reilly. For ready reference "Perl in a Nutshell". For the Advanced stuff : "Advanced Perl Programming", and "Perl Cookbook". And for the perl tidbits you have CPAN (COmprehensive Perl Archive Network) >java, Sorry, no idea. >c "The C Programming Language" By K&R >cpp Don't recall offhand... The /usr/doc directory is where you should be. Start with the how-to's you'll find enough cross references to keep you entertained. Oh, and there is google... If you are willing to spend a bit of money lots of the books from O'Reilly are available on CD's in the HTML format. Not to disparage, but seeking to grok all of it from one book, at one stroke, getting bit and pieces of all the things we've all been learning for years is, IMO, a bit unseemly. Good Luck! BGa --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 07:30:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9C54A00C for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 07:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14067; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:46:03 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:45:32 (IST) Received: from giasmd01.vsnl.net.in ([202.54.6.1]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14055 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:45:29 +0530 Received: from chittu ([203.197.130.117]) by giasmd01.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA11714 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:52:42 +0530 (IST) Message-ID: <00a501c0230e$9b191340$0f53fea9@chittu> From: "Shurajit Gopalakrishnan" To: References: <200009200414.JAA26130@indiaworld2.indiaworld.co.in> Subject: Faculty in Linux Wanted Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:43:01 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: SHURAJIT@VSNL.COM Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Greetings to you from ITM Infotech (India) Limited ! Since this mail is intended to propogate and popularize Linux through education and training, I am making use of this list. I hope the Chennai LUG will extend its cooperation to me. If this is taken as a mistake on my part, I sincerely apologize to all the members of the Chennai LUG. We are looking for faculty members in Linux to teach our students at our centres at Chennai, Bangalore, Hyderabad and Warangal. We are Authorized Education and Training Partners for Red Hat's RHCE courses as well as the Linux Professional Institute's (LPI) Certification Programs. Those interested in associating with us may please send their resumes to the following address or give me a call and meet me in person. With best regards, Shurajit Gopalakrishnan Deputy Director ITM Infotech (India) Limited 24, Venkata Krishna Road, 1st Floor Mandaveli, Chennai - 600 028 E-mail: SHURAJIT@VSNL.COM Phone: + 91 - 44 - 461 6160 / 495 6451 / 495 6452 Mobile: +91 - 98410 - 98909 --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 08:45:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1321C4A18C for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14333; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:53:48 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:53:17 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA14326 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:53:13 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 276; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:47:30 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13bli4-0000AW-00; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:52:56 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 20:52:56 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Cc: Anita Bhat Subject: Commercial: A job offer. X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14792.54473.226655.517217@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, I have been contacted by Ms. Anita Bhat of CIOLJOBS who is looking for linux professionals. Below is a message from her. Interested folks may please contact her. thanks, prabhu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ CIOLJOBS has been retained by a Fortune 500 company based in the USA to recruit Senior Software Engineers to work on Linux Operating system and performance optimization for Intel Processor based servers (IA-32 and IA-64 processors). Positions: Linux/UNIX Engineers Basic Qualification for all posts: MS/Ph.D/M.Tech in Computer Science or related field preferred. 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From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 11:42:26 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4604A10B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA14953; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:53:32 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:53:02 (IST) Received: from phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.4]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA14946 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:52:55 +0530 Received: (qmail 71077 invoked by alias); 20 Sep 2000 18:21:13 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 67127 invoked by uid 0); 20 Sep 2000 18:19:58 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop4.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 20 Sep 2000 18:19:58 -0000 Message-ID: <002601c0232f$3ad5d060$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: Subject: JOBS Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:18:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc What are the compensation expectations (Salary, Health Care, ESOP etc.,) for Tech.Advisor (UNIX), Proj Mgr (Systems) and Junior programmer (UNIX - C, C++). Any info or pointers much appreciated. Cheers, Keky Robertson --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 12:24:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA744A016 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15081; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:25:34 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:25:04 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15072 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:24:54 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03082 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:30:55 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:30:55 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: not able to ftp in intranet: using ipchain Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, I am using ipchains in the linux server to provide Internet connection to our Intranet. I am not able to do ftp or wget in any of the system connected to Intranet except the server which is running ipchain. But if i do ftp using gftp or thru browser i am able to download the files. somewhere i studied that ftp needs to open a data connection with the target m/c. Qn.1) If that is the reason why i am not able to connect to ftp from intranet? what is the sol. for this? Qn.2) in that case why it is possible thru browser or gftp? ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 13:45:10 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CCEA4A01B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15300; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:03:10 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:02:40 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15294 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:02:31 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA03430 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:08:31 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:08:31 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: ftp problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc this is w.r.t. my earlier mail regd. ftp problem. /* earlier mail */ I am using ipchains in the linux server to provide Internet connection to our Intranet. I am not able to do ftp or wget in any of the system connected to Intranet except the server which is running ipchain. But if i do ftp using gftp or thru browser i am able to download the files. somewhere i studied that ftp needs to open a data connection with the target m/c. Qn.1) If that is the reason why i am not able to connect to ftp from intranet? what is the sol. for this? Qn.2) in that case why it is possible thru browser or gftp? /* end of earlier mail */ Now if i use --passive-ftp in wget it is working. but if i use passive mode in gftp i am getting the following error message: 227 Entering Passive Mode (209,202,197,152,224,238) Cannot create a data connection: No route to host Cannot put file /mksbm.txt to ftp.tripod.com Disconnecting from site ftp.tripod.com what could be the problem? ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 21:35:02 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FAB4A00B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16756; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:44:27 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:43:56 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16720 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:43:47 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04007 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:49:45 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:49:45 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Work being done at Harvard Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Theoretical Framework of Deliberative Democracy: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projects/deliberation/online/ Software Specification for Online Deliberation and Discourse: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projects/deliberation/tech/index.html ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 21:35:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20AA54A00B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16803; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:46:50 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:46:20 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16796 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:46:17 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04015 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:52:13 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:52:13 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: The Orbiten Free Software Survey Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc http://orbiten.org/ofss/01.html ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 21:37:07 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2726D4A00B for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 21:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16931; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:52:27 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:51:56 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16906 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:51:48 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04030 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:57:45 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:57:45 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Dr M. Anandakrishnan as Advisor to CM Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Prof Dr. M.Anantha Krishnan is apppointed as Personal Advisor to Honourable Chief Minister of Tamilnadu on Information Technology and E-governance. The posting is the first of this kind in the history of Tamilnadu Note: for those who don't know Prof.MA, he is the former Vice chancellor of Anna University (returned from UNO) and current vice-chairman of TN-IT Task Force. ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 20 22:10:56 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E314A022 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17136; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:14:52 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:14:21 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17124 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:14:17 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04549 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:11:22 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:11:21 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Re: ftp problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, M K Saravanan wrote: > this is w.r.t. my earlier mail regd. ftp problem. > > /* earlier mail */ > > I am using ipchains in the linux server to provide Internet connection to > our Intranet. I am not able to do ftp or wget in any of the system > connected to Intranet except the server which is running ipchain. But if i > do ftp using gftp or thru browser i am able to download the > files. somewhere i studied that ftp needs to open a data connection with > the target m/c. > > Qn.1) If that is the reason why i am not able to connect to ftp > from intranet? what is the sol. for this? > > Qn.2) in that case why it is possible thru browser or gftp? > > /* end of earlier mail */ > > > Now if i use --passive-ftp in wget it is working. but if i use passive > mode in gftp i am getting the following error message: > > 227 Entering Passive Mode (209,202,197,152,224,238) Cannot create a data > connection: No route to host Cannot put file /mksbm.txt to ftp.tripod.com > Disconnecting from site ftp.tripod.com > > > what could be the problem? > > ** mks ** > Are you using ip forwarding and is the module for ftp loaded. With masquarading and ip forwarding turned on, it is possible to use normal ftp. (Normally ftp requires two connections, one for control and another for data and the data connection is started from the other end and so normally if you are behind a firewall, you can't use ftp, but ofcourse you can use passive mode of ftp). -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 00:47:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F9E4A0BC for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17892; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:01:32 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:01:02 (IST) Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (web123.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.191]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA17885 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:00:56 +0530 Received: (qmail 8694 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Sep 2000 07:30:48 -0000 Message-ID: <20000921073048.8693.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.56.193.123] by web123.yahoomail.com; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:30:48 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:30:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ananth S." Subject: mouse cursor under x! To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ananth99@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, i have a strange problem... i was recently trying out the various window managers and themes.. now, today when i started up , the mouse cursor is showing as 'X' and dosent show up as the usual arrow cursor.. if i click on some link(say in a browser or elsewhere), the cursor changes to the arrow but switches back to the 'X' cursor... can anyone help me get back my regular cursor ??? thanx, Ananth ===== There are no coincidence in life..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 00:49:12 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3925F4A0BC for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17901; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:02:21 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:01:50 (IST) Received: from web123.yahoomail.com (web123.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.191]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA17894 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:01:45 +0530 Received: (qmail 8766 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Sep 2000 07:31:40 -0000 Message-ID: <20000921073140.8765.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.56.193.123] by web123.yahoomail.com; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:31:40 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 00:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ananth S." Subject: mouse cursor under x! To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ananth99@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, i have a strange problem... i was recently trying out the various window managers and themes.. now, today when i started up , the mouse cursor is showing as 'X' and dosent show up as the usual arrow cursor.. if i click on some link(say in a browser or elsewhere), the cursor changes to the arrow but switches back to the 'X' cursor... can anyone help me get back my regular cursor ??? thanx, Ananth ===== There are no coincidence in life..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 02:44:49 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4266A4A10A for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18553; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:59:33 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:59:02 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA18547 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:58:59 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 728 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:53:05 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13c2eh-0000JX-00 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:58:35 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 14:58:35 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: ftp problem In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14793.54358.589398.222834@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "Athena" == Athena writes: Athena> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, M K Saravanan wrote: Athena> Are you using ip forwarding and is the module for Athena> ftp loaded. With masquarading and ip forwarding turned on, Athena> it is possible to use normal ftp. (Normally ftp requires Athena> two connections, one for control and another for data and Athena> the data connection is started from the other end and so Athena> normally if you are behind a firewall, you can't use ftp, Athena> but ofcourse you can use passive mode of ftp). Is this problem something to do with the ip_masq_ftp? What do you get when you do lsmod? Are you masquerading ftp? prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 03:15:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F944A142 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 03:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18705; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:30:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:30:05 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA18699 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:30:04 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 757 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:24:16 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13c38r-0000TR-00 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:29:45 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:29:45 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: mouse cursor under x! In-Reply-To: <20000921073048.8693.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> References: <20000921073048.8693.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14793.55812.677629.600559@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "Ananth" == Ananth S writes: Ananth> if i click on some link(say in a browser or elsewhere), Ananth> the cursor changes to the arrow but switches back to the Ananth> 'X' cursor... can anyone help me get back my regular Ananth> cursor ??? Do the following. To figure out what cursors are available run the foll. command: $ xfd -fn cursor click on one of the cursors you want. On top there will be a line saying something like character 0x0038 (0,56) (0,070) ^^^^ Note the underlined number. Choose a cursor that has an even number. Now look at the file /usr/include/X11/cursorfont.h this has all the names of the cursors. Use the number to get the name of the cursor. Now remove the leading XC_ from the name and using the remaining part run the following $ xsetroot -cursor_name gumby In the above example gumby is the name corresponding to the number 56. I.e the cursorfont.h file has #define XC_gumby 56 Hope this helps, prabhu p.s. It should be easy to write a small script to automate this... --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 05:39:32 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B8C4A1AB for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 05:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19441; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:50:27 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:49:57 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19433 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:49:49 +0530 Received: from chennailug.org ([202.9.181.215]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA31910 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:41:19 +0500 Message-ID: <39C9FDA2.2C9F025D@chennailug.org> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:52:58 +0530 From: "Suraj.co.in" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: mouse cursor under x! References: <20000921073140.8765.qmail@web123.yahoomail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi > if i click on some link(say in a browser or > elsewhere), the cursor changes to the arrow but > switches back to the 'X' cursor... can anyone help me > get back my regular cursor ??? > Was that in KDE? Try various WMs. If it persists, the problem is with your xcursor. KDE on my debian 2.2 is like that. I dont remember if KDE itself has no cursor! -Suraj --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 11:26:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BF34A01C for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20616; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:43:28 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:42:57 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20608 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:42:48 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA04965 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:48:40 +0530 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:48:40 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Re: ftp problem In-Reply-To: <14793.54358.589398.222834@monster.linux.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Prabhu Ramachandran wrote: > Is this problem something to do with the ip_masq_ftp? What do > you get when you do lsmod? Are you masquerading ftp? when i did lsmod i got the following: Module Size Used by ip_masq_ftp 4088 1 ne2k-pci 4684 2 (autoclean) 8390 6136 0 (autoclean) [ne2k-pci] nls_iso8859-1 2240 1 (autoclean) nls_cp437 3748 1 (autoclean) vfat 9276 1 (autoclean) fat 30336 1 (autoclean) [vfat] For ipchains I am using the following command: ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.2.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 I really don't know why this ftp problem is occuring. Is the parameter i have given with ipchains is wrong or what?? ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 21 15:47:24 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C5F4A03D for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 15:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21383; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 04:06:54 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 04:06:23 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA21377 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 04:06:20 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA05481 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 04:12:10 +0530 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 04:12:10 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Re: ftp problem debugging Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc I am able to login to ftp.tripod.com and when i tried "ls" command I got the following err. mess. after turning on the debug mode in ftp prompt igot little more clue: ************************ ftp> ls ftp: setsockopt (ignored): Permission denied ---> PASV 227 Entering Passive Mode (209,202,197,152,175,38) ftp: connect: No route to host ************************** This is what i got. Except this site, iam able to ftp to all other sites successfully on passive mode. any other clue? ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 05:25:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458504A1C1 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 05:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22977; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:28:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:27:38 (IST) Received: from cc.imagine.co.in ([206.103.12.210]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22971 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:27:14 +0530 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cc.imagine.co.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id NAA28822 for ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:24:53 +0530 Received: from localhost (sambaiah@localhost) by imagine.imagine.co.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA19477 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:06:27 +0530 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:06:27 +0530 (IST) From: K Sambaiah To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: communicating with modem In-Reply-To: <14786.15548.805509.938235@monster.linux.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: sambaiah@imagine.co.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, I am facing a problem with connecting linux to the internet. I am using RH6.2 and modem is Zyxel Elite 2864. When I issue the command cu -l ttyS1 it is not responding to the at commands. The entries in the mgetty.log.ttyS1 shows yS1 init chat failed, exiting...: Interrupted system call #### failed in mg_init_data dev=ttyS1, pid=1134 What this error means? Do i need to set any setserial or some simillar tool need to run? TIA, Sambaiah Kilaru. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 06:10:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523EC4A5AE for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 06:10:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24254; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:26:23 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:25:53 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24237 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 18:25:42 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA05255 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:42:21 +0530 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:42:21 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: ftp over http Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Dear luggies, We want to make ftp files available over http. We want the webserver to serve ftp files (to help people behind firewalls etc). How to do this ?. We are running Apache. -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 07:00:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064DD4A185 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 06:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24569; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:09:32 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:09:01 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA24558 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:08:57 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 547 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:03:07 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13cT2A-0000Vy-00 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:08:34 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:08:34 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: ftp problem In-Reply-To: References: <14793.54358.589398.222834@monster.linux.in> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14795.24605.34904.556489@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "MKS" == M K Saravanan writes: MKS> For ipchains I am using the following command: MKS> ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.2.0/24 -d 0.0.0.0/0 MKS> I really don't know why this ftp problem is occuring. Is the MKS> parameter i have given with ipchains is wrong or what?? Dunno if this will work but try this, ipchains -A forward -i extif -s 192.168.2.0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ where extif=eth0 or eth1 whatever your external (going out) ethernet device is. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 07:53:59 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 254014A1CD for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24853; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:08:02 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:07:31 (IST) Received: from symonds.net (mail@adsl-63-194-20-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.20.32]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24847 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:07:25 +0530 Received: from ravi by symonds.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13cTwk-0002cC-00; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:37:02 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:37:00 -0700 From: "Ravikant K. Rao" To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: Minutes of the meeting - 16/09/2000 Message-ID: <20000922073700.A9252@symonds.net> References: <002901c022b5$bea233e0$6701a8c0@GUILDINFOTECH.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <002901c022b5$bea233e0$6701a8c0@GUILDINFOTECH.COM>; from zameer@bigfoot.com on Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:18:39AM +0530 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:18:39AM +0530, zameer wrote: > Minutes of the meeting for ILUG-C > stop gap arrangement for this year. This was followed by the > discussions on how to popularize the LUG activities in Chennai > especially in the colleges. It was proposed to publicize LUG I *could* try helping out with this bit - publicising to colleges.. > activities by advertising the agenda and meeting details in > the Classifieds section of 'The Hindu' (Votes on this please). My vote is a Yes. (It _is_ free (as in beer, not speech), isn't it?!) -ravi "jumpin" rao --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 08:22:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF41C4A26D for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24989; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:39:04 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:38:34 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA24981 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:38:25 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01856 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:44:44 +0530 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:44:44 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: how to stop ipchains? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi all, as done in /etc/rc.d/init.d/xxxx start | stop, how to stop ipchains while it is running. (don't ask me to shutdown or reboot ;-) ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 08:44:17 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8F74A24D for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:44:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25077; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:59:56 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:59:26 (IST) Received: from symonds.net (mail@adsl-63-194-20-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.20.32]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA25071 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 20:59:19 +0530 Received: from ravi by symonds.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13cUlG-0002iG-00; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:29:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:29:14 -0700 From: "Ravikant K. Rao" To: Linux-Chennai Guys , bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: [Off-Topic] Scary Patenting? Message-ID: <20000922082914.C10377@symonds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc All: To Quote LWN - Has Cisco patented NAT?. It turns out that Cisco has a patent on a "security system for network address translation systems". Depending on your reading of the patent and what it really covers, this could be one of the more threatening software patents to come along yet. NAT has been a feature of Linux networking for years - though the Linux world has generally referred to it as "masquerading." Essentially the feature allows the hiding of a network of systems behind a single gateway. All outgoing connections appear to come from the gateway itself - the systems behind it are invisible. They are also, normally, unreachable from the outside; this feature means that a box running NAT/masquerading can often serve as a simple and highly effective firewall. It is the firewalling ("security") feature of NAT that Cisco claims a patent for. The claims in the patent text describe the basic NAT algorithm, then add features like dropping inbound TCP packets that do not correspond to an existing TCP connection. Passing through FTP data connections and certain types of ICMP packets are also claimed as patented features. These are all things that the Linux implementation does. If Cisco decides to get obnoxious - and there is no evidence of that at this time - this could be the first serious patent issue to reach deeply into the Linux kernel. The basic NAT implementation in Linux predates the patent application, and thus qualifies easily as prior art. But some of the fancier filtering features may not. The possibility of a patent challenge reaching deeply into the Linux kernel exists. This one is worth keeping an eye on. Check out the details: http://www.patents.ibm.com/details?&pn=US05793763__ -ravi --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 09:14:36 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875CB4A1C1 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25257; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:31:37 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:31:06 (IST) Received: from netscape.com (h-205-217-237-46.netscape.com [205.217.237.46]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25244 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:31:02 +0530 Received: from judge.mcom.com (judge.mcom.com [205.217.237.53]) by netscape.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id e8MFnPi21550 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netscape.com ([208.12.45.34]) by judge.mcom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G1APS500.0P6 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:00:05 -0700 Sender: thaths@netscape.com (Sudhakar Chandrasekharan) Message-ID: <39CB8205.11E2B373@netscape.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:00:05 -0700 From: Sudhakar Chandra Organization: A Doubleplusgood Mega Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75b1 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: ftp over http References: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: thaths@netscape.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Athena proclaimed: > We want to make ftp files available over http. We want the webserver > to serve ftp files (to help people behind firewalls etc). How to do this > ?. We are running Apache. Add the following to your access.conf: Options Indexes FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Assuming, of course, that you want to make everything under the pub directory of FTP available. Add the following to your srm.conf: Alias /pub/ /home/ftp/pub/ Restart apache. Now if you go to http://your.web.server.com/pub, you should be able to see the listing of your FTP server's pub directory. Thaths -- "I tell you, the kid's a wonder. He organized all the lawsuits against me into one class action." -- Homer J. Simpson Sudhakar C13n http://www.aunet.org/thaths/ Lead Indentured Slave --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 22 15:36:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E804A12C for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA26253; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:55:03 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:54:32 (IST) Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (IDENT:root@c62443-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.0.69.165]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25119 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 21:09:04 +0530 Received: (from adsharma@localhost) by sharmas.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA07968; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:36:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:36:33 -0700 From: Arun Sharma X-approved-by: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in To: "Ravikant K. Rao" Cc: Linux-Chennai Guys , bsd-india@sharmas.dhs.org Subject: Re: [Off-Topic] Scary Patenting? Message-ID: <20000922083633.A7961@sharmas.dhs.org> References: <20000922082914.C10377@symonds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000922082914.C10377@symonds.net>; from ravi@symonds.net on Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 08:29:14AM -0700 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 08:29:14AM -0700, Ravikant K. Rao wrote: > All: > > To Quote LWN - There was some more discussion/followup on Linux today. Cisco basically came back and said "linux is not covered by the patent". I think the open source OSes have nothing to worry about, as far as existing stuff is concerned, because it can easily be shown as prior art. However, one has to be careful going forward. Again, this is a problem only in countries where the patents are valid :) -Arun --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 23 00:03:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B18F4A093 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27203; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:20:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:20:05 (IST) Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA27197 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 12:20:01 +0530 Received: (qmail 11176 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2000 06:49:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20000923064944.11175.qmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.56.193.23] by web121.yahoomail.com; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:49:44 PDT Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ananth S." Subject: x cursor - update To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ananth99@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello all, ive finally got around to change my cursor! thanx Prabhu for your advice.. but im still not very happy. i wasnt able to find a white cursor pointing to the left (which i think was the default cursor) and the cursor dosent change whenever i resize windows... looks like i need to trace the startup procedures some more :) and btw, im currently running gnome with enlightenment as the window manager. just removed kde* . Ananth ===== There are no coincidence in life..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 23 01:32:38 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAC84A134 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27512; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:49:00 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:48:29 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27502 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:48:27 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 639 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:42:46 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13ckVX-0000JA-00 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:48:03 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:48:03 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: how to stop ipchains? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14796.25976.906684.924110@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "MKS" == M K Saravanan writes: MKS> hi all, as done in /etc/rc.d/init.d/xxxx start | stop, how to MKS> stop ipchains while it is running. (don't ask me to shutdown MKS> or reboot ;-) man ipchains ipchains -D chain rulenum [options] prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 23 10:24:52 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3819F4A109 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28810; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:40:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:39:45 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28802 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:39:40 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02913 for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:45:44 +0530 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:45:44 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: RHL 7.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:54:34 +0530 From: Harveer S Reply-To: linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org To: linux-india-general@lists.linux-india.org Subject: [LIG] RHL 7.0 Hi Guys, Just heard on the Zoot-list that RHL 7.0 is going to be out on Monday !! More info on /. http://slashdot.org/articles/00/09/21/009255.shtml --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sun Sep 24 23:49:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66EF4A190 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 23:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03503; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:00:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:59:39 (IST) Received: from localhost (sriram@localhost) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA03487 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:59:37 +0530 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:59:36 +0530 (IST) From: "Dr. P. Sriram" To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: how to stop ipchains? In-Reply-To: <14796.25976.906684.924110@monster.linux.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: sriram@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Prabhu Ramachandran wrote: > ipchains -D chain rulenum [options] (in reply to ) > >>>>> "MKS" == M K Saravanan writes: > MKS> hi all, as done in /etc/rc.d/init.d/xxxx start | stop, how to > MKS> stop ipchains while it is running. (don't ask me to shutdown > MKS> or reboot ;-) ------------------- this is is not quite the same. prabhu's solution will delete the referred rule(s) from ipchains and cannot start/stop ipchains. the question is what is meant by stopping ipchains? does one stop forwarding or does one forward everything promiscuously? ipchains is not a service that can be started and stopped at will. there is no 'external' daemon handling it and hence there is no start/stop facility. the functionality comes from the kernel, so one will have to find a way to add/remove the functionality - like kernel modules. since ipchains controlls ip-forwarding, one could turn ip-forwarding on and off to obtain the functionality (depending on ones need, this may or may not be correct). it is easy to do this - just need to set the appropriate value in /proc/sys/ipv4/net. the other option is to write small scripts that delete/add rules as appropriate for the change. sriram --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mon Sep 25 01:57:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D362D4A0FA for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04047; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:13:54 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:13:24 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04040 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:13:18 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11455 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:18:50 +0530 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:18:50 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: Africa The Linux Continent Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-ID: X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,38749,00.html ** mks ** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mon Sep 25 02:06:51 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757724A033 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04172; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:27:30 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:27:00 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04159 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:26:55 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11480 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:32:41 +0530 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:32:41 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: how to stop ipchains? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Thanks Prof.Sriram for the detailed explanation regd. ipchains. Finally i foundout a way to automate starting and stopping ipchains (from IPCHAINS-HOWTO) using a small shell script. ** mks ** On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Dr. P. Sriram wrote: > this is is not quite the same. prabhu's solution will delete the referred > rule(s) from ipchains and cannot start/stop ipchains. the question is what > is meant by stopping ipchains? does one stop forwarding or does one > forward everything promiscuously? ipchains is not a service that can be > started and stopped at will. there is no 'external' daemon handling it and > hence there is no start/stop facility. the functionality comes from the > kernel, so one will have to find a way to add/remove the functionality - > like kernel modules. since ipchains controlls ip-forwarding, one could > turn ip-forwarding on and off to obtain the functionality (depending on > ones need, this may or may not be correct). it is easy to do this - just > need to set the appropriate value in /proc/sys/ipv4/net. the other option > is to write small scripts that delete/add rules as appropriate for the > change. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mon Sep 25 02:32:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ECF4A0FA for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:32:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04407; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:53:40 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:53:09 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04400 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:53:06 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11464 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:27:10 +0530 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:27:10 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: is it true? [Regd. www.mslinux.org] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc i got the following posting from LIG list. is it a hoax? (www.mslinux.org) ** mks ** > > Hi All > > please check this link of new Linux distro coming next year > > http://www.mslinux.org > > this is the new linux distro by the So called Currently Know as the Ruler > of IT : Mr. B. G. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Mon Sep 25 03:52:31 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDE44A035 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 03:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04916; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:11:39 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:11:08 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04895 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:11:03 +0530 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id QAA31081 for ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:03:25 +0500 Received: from focusite.com ([192.168.1.211]) by alpha.focusite.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA09332 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:34:35 +0530 Message-ID: <39CF20F0.111F5B2F@focusite.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:24:56 +0530 From: Aravind Balasubramanian X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: is it true? [Regd. www.mslinux.org] References: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: aravind@focusite.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc obviously a hoax Just look at the links in the home page pointing to slashdot , redhat ... M K Saravanan wrote: > i got the following posting from LIG list. is it a > hoax? (www.mslinux.org) > > ** mks ** > > > > > Hi All > > > > please check this link of new Linux distro coming next year > > > > http://www.mslinux.org > > > > this is the new linux distro by the So called Currently Know as the Ruler > > of IT : Mr. B. G. > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 26 01:45:19 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B7C4A02F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02373; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:36:16 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:35:46 (IST) Received: from rockford.dyndns.org (mail@[203.199.230.41]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02367 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:35:33 +0530 Received: from ravi by rockford.dyndns.org with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 13dom1-0000kY-00 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:33:29 +0530 From: "Ravikant K. Rao" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14800.19006.84968.692665@rockford.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:33:25 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: RedHat Linux 7.0 is Released! - http://www.redhat.com/about/2000/press_rhl7.html X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: "Ravikant K.Rao" X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc -> http://www.redhat.com/about/2000/press_rhl7.html <- Any comments? :) -ravi -- Ravikant K.Rao | mowgli | ravi@linux.ca | ravi@symonds.net --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 26 03:07:55 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3674A0AA for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03439; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:25:22 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:24:52 (IST) Received: from railmalem.caltiger.com ([202.86.136.23]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03431 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:24:49 +0530 Received: from debianut.ekmnet.in by railmalem.caltiger.com (8.9.3/1.1.4.2/07Aug00-0105PM) id PAA0000011219; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:24:04 +0530 (IST) Received: from ragu by debianut.ekmnet.in with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 13drRa-0000Ct-00 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:24:35 +0530 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:24:34 +0530 From: Raghavendra Bhat To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: RedHat Linux 7.0 is Released! - http://www.redhat.com/about/2000/press_rhl7.html Message-ID: <20000926152434.A605@debianut.ekmnet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Power of the GNU (http://www.gnu.org/) X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ragu@vsnl.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc > -> http://www.redhat.com/about/2000/press_rhl7.html <- > > Any comments? :) > Not a word of the GNU Project and it seems that Red Hat Linux is there today. They are bettering the Commercial OSes by bringing out a release every 3 months or so. <---Quoted--->> The Internet is the future of development, deployment and management services for software technology, and Red Hat is there today. <<---Quoted---> Great going for a kernel called Linux which has been packaged by a company Red Hat Inc. -- ragOO, VU2RGU Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.....Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 26 03:35:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954B84A11F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03729; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:54:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:53:39 (IST) Received: from symonds.net (mail@adsl-63-194-20-32.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.194.20.32]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03721 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:53:32 +0530 Received: from ravi by symonds.net with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13drtT-00024l-00; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:23:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:23:23 -0700 From: "Ravikant K.Rao" To: Linux-Chennai Guys Subject: Potato Source/Binaries? Message-ID: <20000926032323.A7959@symonds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, Does anyone have with them, Official Potato Source and Binaries CDs? I was wondering if I could take copies of maybe the sources? -ravi --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Tue Sep 26 08:12:48 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A994A18A for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04667; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:18:07 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:17:36 (IST) Received: from web113.yahoomail.com (web113.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.84]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA04661 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:17:30 +0530 Received: (qmail 12080 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2000 14:47:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20000926144714.12079.qmail@web113.yahoomail.com> Received: from [202.56.193.26] by web113.yahoomail.com; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:47:14 PDT Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 07:47:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ananth S." Subject: Re: Potato Source/Binaries? To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ananth99@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, you can contact Mr. Sharan at 8212928, 8213128, 8229695. he has 3/4 cd's... he said he will be getting the 3rd cd by thu/fri or will try to d/l it from the site... Ananth ===== There are no coincidence in life..... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 27 00:46:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C2C4A08D for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01736; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:52:46 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:52:16 (IST) Received: from pughsnt.srasys.co.in ([202.54.63.129]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01729 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:52:06 +0530 Received: from mailscan.srasys.co.in (172.16.0.108 [172.16.0.108]) by pughsnt.srasys.co.in with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id S5BAQX54; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:49:38 +0530 Received: from ram by smtpmail.srasys.co.in with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:47:21 +0530 Message-ID: <007501c02853$67b90830$aa0110ac@ram> From: "RamKumar" To: Subject: Error Starting X Server !! Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:50:25 +0530 Organization: SRA Systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDRcpt-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-Return-Path: rrk@srasys.co.in X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: rrk@srasys.co.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello, I use RH 6.1 My box was working well till y'day then probably i screwed up somethin i don't remember... can anybody help??? i am getting this error when i try to startx. """" (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 640x480 (--) SVGA: Generic SpeedUps selected (Flags=0x30) (--) SVGA: Using Linear Frame Buffer at 0x0f4200000, Size 1MB (--) SVGA: Using Graphics Engine. (--) SVGA: Using 1024 byte display width. (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) (--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles (--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 pattern fill (--) SVGA: XAA: CPU to screen color expansion (bitmap, TE/NonTE imagetext, TE/NonTE polytext) (--) SVGA: XAA: Using 8 128x128 areas for pixmap caching (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples (--) SVGA: XAA: General lines and segments _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). """ Thanks Ram --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 27 04:56:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DAA4A177 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03226; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:10:01 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:09:30 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03212 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:09:28 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 346 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:03:36 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13eBpM-0004vo-00 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:10:28 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:10:28 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Error Starting X Server !! In-Reply-To: <007501c02853$67b90830$aa0110ac@ram> References: <007501c02853$67b90830$aa0110ac@ram> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14801.41765.399018.918576@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, >>>>> "RamKumar" == RamKumar writes: RamKumar> for pixmap caching (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and RamKumar> stipples (--) SVGA: XAA: General lines and segments RamKumar> _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 RamKumar> failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server RamKumar> error: could not open default font 'fixed' When RamKumar> reporting a problem related to a server crash, please RamKumar> send the full server output, not just the last messages RamKumar> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server RamKumar> shutdown). """ Thanks Ram Looks like you are trying to run some kind of font server maybe xfstt? To solve the problem first comment out the line (with a '#') that has unix/:-1 in your XF86Config. This will get X running but you wont get the new fonts. So, look to see at which port the font server is running. Most probably it will run at 7100 or 7101. Just try telnet 0 7100 or telnet 0 7101. If you dont get anything look at the packge docs. Maybe the service is not running... If it does run replace the unix/:-1 with unix/:7100 or whatever the correct port is. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 27 05:29:29 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42594A161 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 05:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03483; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:48:18 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:47:48 (IST) Received: from pughsnt.srasys.co.in ([202.54.63.129]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03473 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:47:44 +0530 Received: from mailscan.srasys.co.in (172.16.0.108 [172.16.0.108]) by pughsnt.srasys.co.in with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id S5BAQ5TG; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:45:14 +0530 Received: from ram by smtpmail.srasys.co.in with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:42:58 +0530 Message-ID: <003401c0287c$b27ff580$aa0110ac@ram> From: "RamKumar" To: References: <007501c02853$67b90830$aa0110ac@ram> <14801.41765.399018.918576@monster.linux.in> Subject: Re: Error Starting X Server !! Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:46:00 +0530 Organization: SRA Systems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDRcpt-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-Return-Path: rrk@srasys.co.in X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: rrk@srasys.co.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc I got my X running by commenting the " unix/:-1" line in XF86Config file. (Thanks Kamesh). I was trying to run the xfs font server. i checked the messages log and it says "xfs able to listen to socket." anyway thanks to get my X server running.. ==ram ----- Original Message ----- From: Prabhu Ramachandran To: Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: Error Starting X Server !! > hi, > > >>>>> "RamKumar" == RamKumar writes: > > RamKumar> for pixmap caching (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and > RamKumar> stipples (--) SVGA: XAA: General lines and segments > RamKumar> _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 > RamKumar> failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server > RamKumar> error: could not open default font 'fixed' When > RamKumar> reporting a problem related to a server crash, please > RamKumar> send the full server output, not just the last messages > RamKumar> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server > RamKumar> shutdown). """ Thanks Ram > > Looks like you are trying to run some kind of font server > maybe xfstt? > > To solve the problem first comment out the line (with a '#') > that has unix/:-1 in your XF86Config. This will get X running but you > wont get the new fonts. So, look to see at which port the font server > is running. Most probably it will run at 7100 or 7101. Just try > telnet 0 7100 or telnet 0 7101. If you dont get anything look at the > packge docs. Maybe the service is not running... If it does run > replace the unix/:-1 with unix/:7100 or whatever the correct port is. > > prabhu > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Wed Sep 27 17:52:22 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0164A137 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01590; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:08:01 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:07:31 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA01580 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:07:25 +0530 Received: (qmail 75278 invoked by alias); 28 Sep 2000 00:37:04 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 75158 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 2000 00:37:02 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 00:37:02 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c028e4$074b3e00$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: Subject: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:35:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Anyone, Name one Original idea/concept which is UNIQUE and implemented in LINUX OS only ? Anything in Security, UI, network architecture etc., e.g., X was an original idea from MIT. NFS from SUN. SAMBA is not, it is just a reimplementation. ReiserFS is just another implementation of Journalizing File System!. Best answer gets US$10.00. Winner will be notified by e-mail and how to get the MONEY. Cheers, Keky Robertson . --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 01:26:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C224A3E6 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03466; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:04:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:03:38 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03456 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:03:34 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12138 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:00:28 +0530 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:00:28 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? In-Reply-To: <001a01c028e4$074b3e00$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, keky_uswest.net wrote: > Anyone, Name one Original idea/concept which is UNIQUE and > implemented in LINUX OS only ? Anything in Security, UI, network > architecture etc., > > e.g., X was an original idea from MIT. NFS from SUN. > SAMBA is not, it is just a reimplementation. > ReiserFS is just another implementation of Journalizing > File System!. > > Best answer gets US$10.00. Winner will be notified > by e-mail and how to get the MONEY. > > Cheers, > Keky Robertson > Coda (distributed file system) is an original idea from Carnegie Mellon University which is implemented in Linux only ( by the guys from CMU). A correction - ReiserFS is not just an implementation of Journaling FS (In fact journaling was added only later on -- fsck on their FS was damn slow and not so reliable) It uses balanced tree, files need not be block aligned. (the join or cluster small files together and save space ,might improve performance because a single block read can read more than a file , it is object oriented -- to name a few features -- there is a nice artice in reiserfs site (www.devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs). -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 01:26:46 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E404C4A412 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03506; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:17:27 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:16:57 (IST) Received: from linux1 (root@[203.199.194.2]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA03500 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:16:47 +0530 Received: from backup (serv128 [192.9.200.28]) by linux1 (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA04894 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:19:39 +0530 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:15:48 +0530 (IST) From: V Vasanth X-Sender: vasanth@serv128 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: vasanth@sankhya.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, I think it is "GPL". Vasanth >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:35:33 -0700 >From: keky_uswest.net >Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in >To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in >Subject: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? >Anyone, Name one Original idea/concept which is UNIQUE and >implemented in LINUX OS only ? Anything in Security, UI, network >architecture etc., > e.g., X was an original idea from MIT. NFS from SUN. > SAMBA is not, it is just a reimplementation. > ReiserFS is just another implementation of Journalizing > File System!. > > Best answer gets US$10.00. Winner will be notified > by e-mail and how to get the MONEY. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 02:58:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCAC94A4A5 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04021; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:28:54 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:28:22 (IST) Received: from kaveri.ee.iitm.ernet.in (IDENT:root@[144.16.251.96]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03993 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:28:17 +0530 Received: from mho.ee.iitm.ernet.in (mho.ee.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.244.130]) by kaveri.ee.iitm.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA19918 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:30:59 +0530 Received: from localhost (ee96157@localhost) by mho.ee.iitm.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00854 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:35:10 +0530 X-Authentication-Warning: mho.ee.iitm.ernet.in: ee96157 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:35:07 +0530 (IST) From: Koppisetty Kalyan To: ilugc Subject: FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: kalyan@ee.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi all ! somebody has FreeBSD ? can any one lend me their copy for a day(any 3+ version is fine) i have access to a writer and can give back the CD in a couple of hours if u are in a nearby place in chennai. kallu **************************************************************************** K.Kalyan Undergraduate Student, #222 Mandakini Hostel, Dept. of Electrical Engg, IIT Madras - 36 Indian Institute of Technology, Madras - 36 e-mail: kalyan@ee.iitm.ernet.in kalyan@i.am (hey ! that's just a redirector !) **************************************************************************** --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 07:04:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119524A228 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05546; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:12:06 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:11:35 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05540 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:11:28 +0530 Received: (qmail 77946 invoked by alias); 28 Sep 2000 13:41:19 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 77902 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 2000 13:41:18 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 13:41:18 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c02951$956be5a0$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 06:39:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Sorry. FSF & Stallman would disagree. Keep on trying, Cheers, Keky Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: V Vasanth To: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:45 AM Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? > Hi, > > I think it is "GPL". > > Vasanth > > >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:35:33 -0700 > >From: keky_uswest.net > >Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in > >To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in > >Subject: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? > > >Anyone, Name one Original idea/concept which is UNIQUE and > >implemented in LINUX OS only ? Anything in Security, UI, network > >architecture etc., > > > e.g., X was an original idea from MIT. NFS from SUN. > > SAMBA is not, it is just a reimplementation. > > ReiserFS is just another implementation of Journalizing > > File System!. > > > > Best answer gets US$10.00. Winner will be notified > > by e-mail and how to get the MONEY. > > > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 07:29:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBFB4A1F2 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05729; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:43:43 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:43:12 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA05720 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:43:06 +0530 Received: (qmail 45780 invoked by alias); 28 Sep 2000 14:13:02 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 45761 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 2000 14:13:02 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 14:13:02 -0000 Message-ID: <001401c02956$04147630$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:11:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc So far, the best response. No cookies yet. Cheers, Keky Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: Athena To: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, keky_uswest.net wrote: > > > Anyone, Name one Original idea/concept which is UNIQUE and > > implemented in LINUX OS only ? Anything in Security, UI, network > > architecture etc., > > > > e.g., X was an original idea from MIT. NFS from SUN. > > SAMBA is not, it is just a reimplementation. > > ReiserFS is just another implementation of Journalizing > > File System!. > > > > Best answer gets US$10.00. Winner will be notified > > by e-mail and how to get the MONEY. > > > > Cheers, > > Keky Robertson > > > Coda (distributed file system) is an original idea from Carnegie > Mellon University which is implemented in Linux only ( by the guys from > CMU). > DFS implementation existed in APOLLO computers (in the 80s). In what way DFS is uniqe idea/concept in LINUX OS other than 1st implementation in LINUX ? > > > A correction - > ReiserFS is not just an implementation of Journaling FS (In fact > journaling was added only later on -- fsck on their FS was damn slow and > not so reliable) > It uses balanced tree, files need not be block aligned. (the join > or cluster small files together and save space ,might improve performance > because a single block read can read more than a file , it is object > oriented -- to name a few features -- there is a nice > artice in reiserfs site (www.devlinux.com/projects/reiserfs). > Agree. ReiserFS offers more than just JFS reimplementation. I am not disagreeing with your comments, just used it as an example to say it doesn't qualify. B-Tree FS implementation existed previously also. What is new, unique idea/concept in ReiserFS other than re-implementation of several pre-existing clever ideas. If you disagree, and feel ReiserFS qualifies, I will accept your ilugc peers support of your theory and send you the MONEY. > -George Samuel > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 07:38:01 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2D04A330 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 07:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05822; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:52:09 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:51:39 (IST) Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA05816 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:51:38 +0530 Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.199.224.214]) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29911 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:00:10 +0530 (IST) Sender: zameer@md2.vsnl.net.in Message-ID: <39D43BC5.59563656@bigfoot.com> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:20:45 +0530 From: Zameer Ahmed Organization: Lateral Software Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: zameer@bigfoot.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi All, What about Source tree patching using Inbox as a patch queue. Did K&R think of this ?:-) This is a linus Orignal (c) Tranmeta Corp. Linus Rulez!! CVS .....no way!!!! Regards Zamee Ahmed --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 20:58:41 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2394A352 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00770; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:26:11 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:25:41 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00758 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:25:35 +0530 Received: from os4 (node-64-248-114-130.dslspeed.zyan.com [64.248.114.130]) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA26986 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:16:44 +0500 Message-ID: <002e01c028a4$2eb64a60$eaff000a@chennai.cibsnet.net> From: "Pichai Asokan" To: References: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:28:37 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: pasokan@os4.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc call sharan at Focus infotech 821 2928/8213180 we have a 3.4 (4 CD) set You can take it. I also have 4.0 and 4.1 but you will have to wait till 12t Oct when I return from US P Asokan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koppisetty Kalyan" To: "ilugc" Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: FreeBSD > hi all ! somebody has FreeBSD ? > can any one lend me their copy for a day(any 3+ version is fine) > i have access to a writer and can give back the CD in a couple of hours if > u are in a nearby place in chennai. > kallu > > **************************************************************************** > K.Kalyan > Undergraduate Student, #222 Mandakini Hostel, > Dept. of Electrical Engg, IIT Madras - 36 > Indian Institute of Technology, > Madras - 36 > > e-mail: > kalyan@ee.iitm.ernet.in > kalyan@i.am (hey ! that's just a redirector !) > **************************************************************************** > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 21:06:45 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ECF4A337 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00945; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:39:51 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:39:21 (IST) Received: from web4602.mail.yahoo.com (web4602.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.157]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA00939 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:39:16 +0530 Message-ID: <20000928185105.26393.qmail@web4602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.199.227.68] by web4602.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:51:05 PDT Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: swaraj Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: swaraj19@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi GPL is richard stallman concept of FSF nothing to do with linux swaraj --- V Vasanth wrote: > Hi, > > I think it is "GPL". > > Vasanth > > >Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:35:33 -0700 > >From: keky_uswest.net > >Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in > >To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in > >Subject: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? > > >Anyone, Name one Original idea/concept which is > UNIQUE and > >implemented in LINUX OS only ? Anything in > Security, UI, network > >architecture etc., > > > e.g., X was an original idea from MIT. NFS from > SUN. > > SAMBA is not, it is just a reimplementation. > > ReiserFS is just another implementation of > Journalizing > > File System!. > > > > Best answer gets US$10.00. Winner will be > notified > > by e-mail and how to get the MONEY. > > > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' > with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe > from this list. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 22:30:05 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41674A3AF for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01972; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:04:38 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:04:08 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA01958 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:04:02 +0530 Received: (qmail 99108 invoked by alias); 28 Sep 2000 15:11:27 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 97287 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 2000 15:10:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO k2) (159.87.22.246) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 15:10:51 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c0295e$17e51e50$f616579f@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: Subject: Chairperson or Judge ! Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:09:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Will the Chairperson of ilugc be the judge of my question ? I don't want to be the sole authority. Can I send a moneyorder for $10.00 to WHO in ilugc and to what address. The Chairperson can then award it to the deserving person. 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From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 22:59:39 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8732F4A2F2 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02177; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:36:08 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:35:37 (IST) Received: from annauniv.edu (IDENT:root@[203.197.138.163]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02156 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:35:36 +0530 Received: from localhost (linux@localhost) by annauniv.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04879 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:15:32 +0530 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:15:32 +0530 (IST) From: Athena To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: What is original idea/concept in Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: linux@annauniv.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Networking using sound cards -George Samuel --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 23:21:47 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8724A338 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA02276; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:58:14 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:57:44 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA02270 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:57:38 +0530 Received: (qmail 47342 invoked by alias); 29 Sep 2000 06:09:02 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 47205 invoked by uid 0); 29 Sep 2000 06:08:58 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2000 06:08:58 -0000 Message-ID: <000601c029db$8e6f7660$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: Subject: Re: What is original idea/concept in Linux Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:07:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc I need more explanation. In the last decade, IBM came out with a sound card/modem combination for PC's using TI DSP chipset; WIN 95 supported this interface card for both sound and dial-up networking. In the late 70s there was a demo at S-100 bus computer show at Philly which demonstrated sound and 110bps modem capability. The software ran under CP/M. Cheers, Keky Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: Athena To: Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 10:45 PM Subject: Re: What is original idea/concept in Linux > > Networking using sound cards > > -George Samuel > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Thu Sep 28 23:40:30 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376194A3A4 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02336; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:08:11 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:07:41 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA02330 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:07:36 +0530 Received: (qmail 83233 invoked by alias); 28 Sep 2000 15:06:11 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 83059 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 2000 15:06:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO k2) (159.87.22.246) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 15:06:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c0295d$6e996d60$f616579f@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: <39D43BC5.59563656@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:04:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc OK wise guy. I am not sure 'patching' anything is new idea/concept. K&R has so far thought of so many things it is not fair to ask them to think of everything!. 'linus' '(c) Transmeta Corp' say what ? If majority of your peers at ilugc agree with your answer and say so the cheque for US$ 10.00 will be in the mail. Keep trying, Cheers, Keky Robertson Linus RuleZ ? Didn't they say something like that about Alexander the Great ? Sadaam Hussein ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Zameer Ahmed To: ilugc Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:50 PM Subject: Re: What is Original idea/concept in LINUX ? > Hi All, > What about Source tree patching using Inbox as a patch queue. Did > K&R think of this ?:-) This is a linus Orignal (c) Tranmeta Corp. > > Linus Rulez!! > > CVS .....no way!!!! > > > Regards > Zamee Ahmed > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 00:25:42 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916CB4A6B8 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 00:25:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02567; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:49 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:19 (IST) Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02553 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:54:17 +0530 Received: from bigfoot.com ([203.199.224.25]) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10470 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:44:55 +0530 (IST) Sender: zameer@md2.vsnl.net.in Message-ID: <39D52717.26D20B65@bigfoot.com> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 05:04:47 +0530 From: Zameer Ahmed Organization: Lateral Software Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ilugc Subject: Re: What is original idea/concept in Linux Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: zameer@bigfoot.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello All Linux the Hack ----------- Linux the hack is the orignal hack which demonstrated the power of what the Open Source development and development through the internet can do to the software industry of the world. It was a manifestation and demonstration in what small open source projects when packaged can do. There is not many things in Linux is Linux Specific . Same is the case with every thing human makes, its derived from his/her previous experiences. The spectacle of a full fledged Operating system without royalties and immense possibilities is what Linux brought about. * We are all waiting for Hurd. Thanx to the power and reacceptance of Linux. We know what the Hurd can do http://www.debian.org/hurd * Free BSD and other flavours of BSD started to be sampled by new Linux users to extend the power of Unix Software * Other softwares which took the lime light like Apache, Samba were poularised with the usage of Linux. In short Linux pulled the hack of our times and bringing back Unix. It formed the *mother-ship* for various Open Sourced project s to show the potential. Finally this OS what we know as >From the Internet Of the Internet For the Internet Regards Zameer Ahmed --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 02:58:40 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29D44A1E0 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03396; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:05 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03386 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:29:57 +0530 Received: from cirlacs (res-210-214-12-160.sify.net [210.214.12.160] (may be forged)) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06724 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:04:41 +0500 Message-ID: <001a01c02a06$2ca5af00$4512fea9@md4.chn.vsnl.net.in> From: "Suraj.co.in" To: References: Subject: Re: is it true? [Regd. www.mslinux.org] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:12:11 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello Sir, > i got the following posting from LIG list. is it a > hoax? (www.mslinux.org) It, infact, is a kind of mock at MS's linux ideas. Anywayz its great time to spend at mslinux.com!! (-; -Suraj --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 04:01:44 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B294B72D for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03619; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:09:33 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:09:03 (IST) Received: from linux1 ([203.199.194.2]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03613 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:09:01 +0530 Received: from backup (serv128 [192.9.200.28]) by linux1 (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA06830 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:54:18 +0530 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:50:27 +0530 (IST) From: "T.Anandaraj" X-Sender: anand@serv128 To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: Re: is it true? [Regd. www.mslinux.org] In-Reply-To: <001a01c02a06$2ca5af00$4512fea9@md4.chn.vsnl.net.in> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: anand@sankhya.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hi, On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Suraj.co.in wrote: > Hello Sir, > > > i got the following posting from LIG list. is it a > > hoax? (www.mslinux.org) It's a Hoax ! -Anand > It, infact, is a kind of mock at MS's linux ideas. Anywayz its great time > to spend at mslinux.com!! (-; > > -Suraj > > --- > Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org > Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' > in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. > > ------ "I have often regretted my speech, never my silence." ------ --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 09:33:50 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60CBE4A678 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05534; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:01:11 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:00:40 (IST) Received: from rockford.dyndns.org (mail@[203.197.240.202]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05517 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:00:36 +0530 Received: from ravi by rockford.dyndns.org with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 13exbl-0004Kt-00 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:11:37 +0530 From: "Ravikant K.Rao" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:11:36 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: dpkg vs rpm && /. gets cracked! X-Mailer: Something that YOU do not need to know :C) Message-ID: Sender: "Ravikant K.Rao" X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: ravi@symonds.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc /. gets cracked --------------- Yes. www.slashdot.org just got cracked - http://slashdot.org/articles/00/09/29/1245218.shtml The sad thing about the post detailing /.'ers is that the guy posting about the break-in (think it was CmdrTaco) is still pretty confused on whether he should use "hacker" or "cracker" and there is a good 50-50 usage of both , kinda like, "I said the right thing (among other things) and hence I'm right..." ... pretty pathetic if you ask me. dpkg versus rpm --------------- There is a beautiful debate going on at http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/09/16/969163199.html and I wonder if any of you guys are following it? One last thing to debianers - licq 0.85-8 is broken - stick to using -5 ... I learnt it the hard way :( .. And glibc is broken in the last upgrade of woody or somesuch was what I heard - so "unstable" is pretty much broken ... atleast at the moment - maybe they really should go ahead with the "testing" distro and the "unstable" distro. hasta lavista, -ravi -- Ravikant K.Rao | mowgli | ravi@linux.ca | ravi@symonds.net --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 14:22:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F5584A38D for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA06578; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:57:59 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:57:28 (IST) Received: from phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA06572 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:57:23 +0530 Received: (qmail 14591 invoked by alias); 29 Sep 2000 21:06:27 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 13907 invoked by uid 0); 29 Sep 2000 21:06:14 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop3.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 29 Sep 2000 21:06:14 -0000 Message-ID: <001e01c02a58$e6857b10$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: References: <39D52717.26D20B65@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: What is original idea/concept in Linux Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:04:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Does LINUX really need any warmed up PROPAGANDA ? You omitted to mention the Power of ONE human brain with a human body and named Linus. NO FEAR! There were other projects which benfitted from Open Source development before LINUX got started. Just ask Richard . The power of collabration to develop computer projects over network happened during DOD ARPA days long before fancy tag for inter connected network based systems. In my opinion, LINUX is a beneficiary of LINUS's spunk, FSF/Stallman's original thought of Free Software and Hayes's contribution to PC's with cheap modems and Metcalf's Ethernet (I didn't forget you Bob) which made Internet and the community it helped develop. Ofcourse, people's hidden jealousy to accept One or Two men to accumulate enormous wealth in a short time. LINUX is a 'Knowledge Tool' for today's humans to collabrate globally and improve the quality of life. I would like to learn from others as to how they see this tool, what is unique about this tool from their perspective . Although, other network protocols existed TCP/IP and FTP protocols are important innovations for todays technology revolution. I posed this very same question during my visit to LINUX WORLD 2000 at San Jose. Only one person, answered it saying "RPM" from Red Hat. The rest of them either shook their head or said some 'air-head' mantra like LINUX RULEZ man! I still have a crisp US$10.00 in my wallet waiting to be mailed to the one who deserves. Keep trying Cheers, Keky Robertson ----- Original Message ----- From: Zameer Ahmed To: ilugc Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 4:34 PM Subject: Re: What is original idea/concept in Linux > Hello All > > > Linux the Hack > ----------- --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 14:47:00 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FA749F48 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06669; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:22:34 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:22:03 (IST) Received: from eth.net (mailserver2.ddsl.net [202.9.145.19]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06660 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:22:01 +0530 Received: from mail pickup service by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 02:55:10 +0530 Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in ([202.141.26.131]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:22:07 +0530 Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03396; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:05 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03386 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:29:57 +0530 Received: from cirlacs (res-210-214-12-160.sify.net [210.214.12.160] (may be forged)) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06724 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:04:41 +0500 Message-ID: <001a01c02a06$2ca5af00$4512fea9@md4.chn.vsnl.net.in> From: "Suraj.co.in" To: References: Subject: Re: is it true? [Regd. www.mslinux.org] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:12:11 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk X-list: ilugc X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello Sir, > i got the following posting from LIG list. is it a > hoax? (www.mslinux.org) It, infact, is a kind of mock at MS's linux ideas. Anywayz its great time to spend at mslinux.com!! (-; -Suraj --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 15:15:06 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A1A14A384 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06773; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:40:45 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:40:15 (IST) Received: from eth.net (mailserver2.ddsl.net [202.9.145.19]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA06761 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 23:39:27 +0530 Received: from mail pickup service by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 02:55:10 +0530 Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in ([202.141.26.131]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:22:07 +0530 Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03396; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:35 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:30:05 (IST) Received: from server1.focusite.com (server1.focusinfotech.com [207.235.7.179] (may be forged)) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03386 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:29:57 +0530 Received: from cirlacs (res-210-214-12-160.sify.net [210.214.12.160] (may be forged)) by server1.focusite.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA06724 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:04:41 +0500 Message-ID: <001a01c02a06$2ca5af00$4512fea9@md4.chn.vsnl.net.in> From: "Suraj.co.in" To: References: Subject: Re: is it true? [Regd. www.mslinux.org] Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:12:11 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk X-list: ilugc X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: suraj@chennailug.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Hello Sir, > i got the following posting from LIG list. is it a > hoax? (www.mslinux.org) It, infact, is a kind of mock at MS's linux ideas. Anywayz its great time to spend at mslinux.com!! (-; -Suraj --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 16:22:13 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DC44A435 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06970; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:57:33 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:57:02 (IST) Received: from eth.net (mailserver2.ddsl.net [202.9.145.19]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06961 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:56:55 +0530 Received: from mail pickup service by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 02:59:46 +0530 Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in ([202.141.26.131]) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.357.35); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:49:09 +0530 Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01972; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:04:38 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:04:08 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA01958 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:04:02 +0530 Received: (qmail 99108 invoked by alias); 28 Sep 2000 15:11:27 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 97287 invoked by uid 0); 28 Sep 2000 15:10:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO k2) (159.87.22.246) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Sep 2000 15:10:51 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c0295e$17e51e50$f616579f@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: Subject: Chairperson or Judge ! Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:09:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk X-list: ilugc X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Will the Chairperson of ilugc be the judge of my question ? I don't want to be the sole authority. Can I send a moneyorder for $10.00 to WHO in ilugc and to what address. The Chairperson can then award it to the deserving person. Cheers, Keky Robertson --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Fri Sep 29 20:02:23 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (unknown [202.141.26.131]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC434B28C for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07472; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 04:26:47 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 30 Sep 2000 04:26:17 (IST) Received: from citpl.compuwave.co.in ([202.54.64.162]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA07466 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 04:26:16 +0530 Received: from cyberwaveindia.com ([203.197.147.34]) by citpl.compuwave.co.in (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id 317 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:02:50 +0530 Received: from prabhu by cyberwaveindia.com with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13fCWg-0001Mw-00 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:07:22 +0530 From: Prabhu Ramachandran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:07:22 +0530 (IST) To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in Subject: VB for linux!? For free!? X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14805.20825.141362.507203@monster.linux.in> X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: prabhu@aero.iitm.ernet.in Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi, According to Linux today... ------------------------------------------------------------------ "VISUAL BASIC FOR LINUX" AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD NOW is a unique object-oriented RAD tool for Linux. It combines the expressive power of object-oriented languages like Python and Perl with the familiarity and ease of use of Visual Basic. COMPLETE STORY: http://linuxpr.com/releases/2611.html ------------------------------------------------------------------ This is shareware. I dont know any VB. So can anyone else comment if this is really like VB?? Apparently, kylix also rocks. prabhu --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 30 00:35:35 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BDA4A2C8 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 00:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00142; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 09:04:25 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 30 Sep 2000 09:03:54 (IST) Received: from hanuman.aukbc.org ([203.197.142.200]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00135 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 09:03:47 +0530 Received: from localhost (IDENT:mksarav@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hanuman.aukbc.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03180 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:52:13 +0530 Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:52:13 +0530 (IST) From: M K Saravanan Sender: mksarav@hanuman.aukbc.org To: Indian Linux User Group - Chennai Subject: New file uploaded to tamilinix Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: mksarav@mail.mitindia.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc hi all, New Font-HOWTO is added to the Tamilinix site. kindly go thru the following mess. ** mks ** ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 29 Sep 2000 21:21:14 -0000 From: tamilinix@egroups.com To: tamilinix@egroups.com Subject: [tamilinix] New file uploaded to tamilinix Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the tamilinix group. File : /Font-HOWTO.pdf Uploaded by : prabuanand@hotmail.com Description : Using TrueType Fonts in Linux You can access this file at the URL http://www.egroups.com/files/tamilinix/Font-HOWTO%2Epdf --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list. From ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Sat Sep 30 15:04:37 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ilug-c-archive@lists.linux-india.org Received: from aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (www.aero.iitm.ernet.in [206.103.12.233]) by www.aunet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E614A0AA for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 15:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aero (mail@aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in [144.16.246.3]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01553; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:39:07 +0530 Received: with LISTAR (v0.121a; list ilugc); Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:38:37 (IST) Received: from phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net (phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net [206.80.192.5]) by aero.aero.iitm.ernet.in (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA01547 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 23:38:25 +0530 Received: (qmail 16122 invoked by alias); 30 Sep 2000 21:50:11 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in@fixme Received: (qmail 16072 invoked by uid 0); 30 Sep 2000 21:50:10 -0000 Received: from sherpagrp.com (HELO k2) (209.181.134.65) by phnxpop5.phnx.uswest.net with SMTP; 30 Sep 2000 21:50:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001501c02b28$32c32570$4386b5d1@sherpagrp.com> From: "keky_uswest.net" To: Subject: FIGHTING FONT FRUSTRATION Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:48:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listar-MIME-Select: Message contained multiple alternative formats; text/plain format chosen while RTF or HTML was omitted. X-listar-version: Listar v0.121a Sender: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in Errors-To: ilugc-bounce@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-original-sender: keky@uswest.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: ilugc@aero.iitm.ernet.in X-list: ilugc Good read about the subject could be found at http://pople.redhat.com/~scoile/fonts/fixing.html written by Steve Coile. Must read if you are using Netscape under Linux. Cheers, Keky Robertson --- Visit our home page at: www.chennailug.org Send e-mail to 'ilugc-request@aero.iitm.ernet.in' with 'unsubscribe' in either the subject or the body to unsubscribe from this list.